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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: kornbeef on May 22, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
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Here I go again. I blame Jamo...... I have to blame someone. I love the Albatros and until WNW think of releasing a DIII with correct interior and all those wonderful WNWish bits I’ll sate my craving with a D.V or two. It’s an early Birthday pressie SWMBO must have thought I deserved it... or she has something in the pipeline she has sweetened me up nicely to announce. So I decided to let AMS free it’s been a while since I have. And in my style I started every part of the kit at once. Chaos ensues. Though I try to concentrate on one area for a short while at a time.
So seeing as I’m starting the blog earlyish for me I’ll try to show what I change and explain why. Now I don’t wish anyone to take this as a WNW bashing exercise as it’s not, not at all.
Reference used is....
The two new Albatros at war datafiles, the old Albatros Fighters Special datafile, WNW’s own website, Tval’s website, info gleaned over the years from the members on Aeroscale’s Early aviation forum and other great sites, some now not so great.
So on with the boring diatribe...lol
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Fuel tank
Going by reference and TVAL’s pictures it would seem the tank is slightly wider than it should be. Not a problem for most builds of course when its tucked out of sight.
Using TVAL pics I rebuilt it shaving about 1.25mm off each side, the bottom is different but will be out of sight. I sanded all detail off, cut the two tanks apart and redid the seam/lip with thin plasticard wrapped around the basic tanks. To get the look right I drilled clear through the reserve tank to show the two pipes that come up through it, adding the filler pipe to this at the same time. I started the mountings and pipework connections.
Former/bulkhead
I’ve removed the forward gun mounts for 3 reasons- 1. AMS 2. Ejection pin marks 3. There’s detail to add behind them. Hopefully the half built D.Va I have will be enough to realign the rebuilt parts when needed.
Spinner
Trying to reprofile the kit spinner as it seems too pronounced, if it doesn’t look okay I’m considering grafting a spare Roden one I have.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI02.jpg)
Exhaust
I managed to open out the exhaust without trashing it. Welds will be added from milliput and or stretched sprue.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI04.jpg)
Engine bearers
Big step away from the program here... To facilitate the extra details I intend to put in assembling the fuselage in halves will make most far easier. So I cut the formers in half assembled each in their corresponding fuselage halves to set off after adding some details (oil tank mountings) and some basic amendments. Once these are filled tidied and readied they’ll be assembled into the fuselage for detailing proper.
Cockpit sides
I felt the thin diagonal strips were a bit too wide, I had considered stripping the internal detail and sanding the interior thinner (I’ve done that before!) but decided removing some detail and remaking it would be easier and just as effective. I intend to build up the coaming padding and remake the two panels that brace the gun mount to the fuselage former (flat with half moon cut outs. These are poorly presented by the kit I thought. The two wooden rails/handles beside the seat are to be remade and the formers need packing in places. To my odd mind this method of construction seems the most practical way to achieve this, of course there’s going to be major hiccups when it comes to fitting the pulley assembly’s seat etc but I’m confident (gulps) on over coming these.
The fuel control panel. I believe its too far back. So I filled the slots.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI05.jpg)
External fuselsage.
Fun time. Making the planking effect... close examination of pics show the panels lay over each other in places. I overlapped the side over the underside and upperside spine panels over the side ones using a clear pic of an OAW D.Va only to realise when researching which to build that on the D.V the side panel appears to overlap both, hence the white plastic strip sanded into shape (DOH!) . Cowling fastener mountings are to be thickened and sanded to achieve the right profile again. Cable slots are opened up awaiting final detailing. I’ve also tried to replicate the rippling effect seen on many period pictures where the skin seems to have gone out of shape in places, how this has worked it’s hard to tell till the paint starts being laid on and that’s weeks away I think.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI07.jpg)
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Upper wing
I filled the 4 slots for the rad mounting then in a fit of insanity found myself removing the plastic in the opening, whey? To build the rad as a unit and make detailing the mountings better. Using the TVAL pics again I made slight profile differences to the surface and added the spar inspection window. Opening out the shrouds for the actuating cables for the ailerons too while I was on and filling the rather obvious gap around them. I drilled the wing ready for pinning the ailerons whilst I was on.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI08.jpg)
Lower wings
I added the slot near the upper front of each wing, and am on scoring the join between wood and fabric, there some extra details bolt heads etc to add and I need to scrutinise just how the rigging attaches. I chamfered the edges of the wingroots, and the slot in the fuselage dryfitting to try to ensure she doesn’t have that unwanted wing sag once that stage of building comes.
So far so good, and not a drop of kornbeef blood shed, or tears YET.
Cheers Keith
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Keith,
Outstanding first progress my friend. Oh I think another masterpiece is in the works here. Always a joy to follow your threads here and elsewhere.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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You're off to a fantastic start, Keith. I'm looking forward to watching this one progress.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks guys, One major Faux Pas though... its a D.V not a D.Va these old eyes and brain... aint what they used to be ::)
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This one looks a goody Keith, great first progress.
Cheers
Pete.
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This is taking an outstanding kit to the next level. Im watching this one closely!!!!
Steve
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I'm amazed at the amount of work you guys put in, pretty damn awesome!!
Looking great Keith ;)
Andrew
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Thanks guys, One major Faux Pas though... its a D.V not a D.Va these old eyes and brain... aint what they used to be ::)
Good Lord Keith,
I actually thought for a moment you might be doing both!!
As earlier, I'll be watching carefully and learning from this one for sure.
Cheers,
Lance
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I join the group in following along Keith and watching your machine come to life.
Many thanks for describing your approach to adding and fixing details. All good stuff that I hope sticks to the old gray matter here. :)
Paddy
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Very nice progress Keith, I'll be following along to pick up some tips if I may.
Best Regards
Keith.
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Excellent start Keith, this will be a "must watch" build.
Des.
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Looking forward to more updates.
Great work thus far!
;)BVB :)
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Wow, awesome. Also following along with great interest!
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Hey all sorry it's been a while but life bites sometimes.
So, back with the next instalment. Lots of hours spent and not looking awfully different. Probably because I’ve been hopping from assembly to assembly willynilly.
So Elevator and rudder, I added *subtle* stitching and taping. I know that the control surfaces weren’t taped like the main flying surfaces but close inspection shows stitching and taping, so I added these using a method I tried on the DII.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBI12.jpg)
Fuselage. so far, I’ve added some former strengtheners, bracketry and the supports for the gun mounts and refined/added some structure. The edges of the engine bay have been brought closer to how they appear in the TVal pix Jamo provided. Engine bearer halves have been fixed in place cabane strut bracketry is in the throes of being done. Extra wood has been added to the formers that protrude above the bodywork, after all the scale thickness of a sheet of alloy isn’t about 0.5mm.
Some external details have been lost/shaved off and wil be replaced with PE. I’m attempting to replicate the rippled surfaces some Albies seemed to have to some success though it hardly shows in pics.
I’ve built up the coaming padding roughly using rod, shaved to suit and bent fixed by cyano and fitted some of the internal fittings making the bracket for the fuel guage out of a scrap of etch instead of a blob of plastic. The dynamo charger will be done similarly.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBI14.jpg)
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Engine. Built as an early 160, I replaced the kit ignition harness tubes, they seem underscale and added all the mountings from tape strip and grandtline nuts. Extra hose connections, wiring and some detailing to magneto’s carb and base and drilling out the rocker boxes of the cylinder top assembly is finished with the making of the what I call C-nuts around the manifold to cylinders is underway.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBI17.jpg)
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Seat. Cushioning and padding added from Milliput. I cut the base out the side to do this, the buttons are rod pushed through holes drilled through the base and all reassembled once I was happy with the component parts. Lower seat belts will be added before painting and fitting I think, probably out of lead sheet, even though I have PofP and Eduard etch and HGWs fabric ones utilising the buckles and such from the above.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBIE16.jpg)
Bits and bobs, I spent an age doing the fuel tanks, I was but after looking at the pics am now not so happy with the angled pipework coming out the top and may redo it a little smaller. I fitted rigging points to the rear axle bar instead of the kit suggested points on the UC legs and scribed the dividing line between the two halves of the fairing. The oiltank took some puzzling before I realised it was a bit short compared to the Tval build, as I worked out where the mountings were on the engine bearer. Ive done lots in all areas not pictured too including detailing the control column and adding the exhaust flanges, detailing the carb body and such.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBI11.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/ALBI15.jpg)
So lots done with little to see for it. Lots more yet to do before real progress looks done (paint)
Thats all for now folks, back to the bench
;) Keith
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Great attention to detail. You just have to give us a rundown on how you did your seat cushion. It looks superb!
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris, Hi and thanks.
Basically I cut the base from the back of the seat, building up the cushion on the base of the seat with Milliput, sculpting it while still setting to form the dimples creases and seams then sanded tweaked and polished it when dry, For the buttons I drilled through the base, tidied up around the button places and slipped plastic rod into each hole to a level that looked right. Once happy I glued them with liquid poly and snipped off the ends that protruded underneath.
I hope this helps, anyone wanting to do this, you can of course make a seperate cushion pad by using a thin base of plasticard ubder the milliput but I wanted to model the seams and cushioning around the back and sides too.
Hope this explains things okay.
K
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Really glad to see you back on this one, Keith. Brilliant detail work all around. Who says you can't improve on a WNW kit? That seat cushion is superb.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great attention to detail. You just have to give us a rundown on how you did your seat cushion. It looks superb!
Cheers,
Chris
I second that. That cushion really is well done.
Paddy
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Keith,
As mentioned earlier, brilliant work. I'll be following closely and will keep your cushion technique in mind for my DVa build in future. You are setting a record level of performance for rampant AMS, well done!
Cheers,
Lance ;)
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Keith,
First off more outstanding progress my old friend. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for this highly informative thread. Your many modifications and additional details are out of this world. You've done a great service to anyone interested in building their own D.Va, major cudo's to you for that.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Gregory, my ethos...oooh posh word. Is that info is for sharing, I'm not one to watch someone else make mistakes I could advise against. I imagine most if not all here are of the same as myself. But thank you anyway my friend.
For the greater good of all ::)
Keith
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Beautiful work, I remain in awe.
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Thank you Tony.
So next installment time.
Engine.
Now the basic assembly and painting is underway. I just had to use the Barracuda Inlet manifold in its completion, that extra detail is just too good to resist. I haven’t found a decent pic of the chosen profile’s engine to say yay or nay so I’m running with this. Still a long way to go with paint and detail, I’ve assembled it in two parts. The cylinders manifold and maneto tower and the vlock on its own. This helps with detailing. I hope. The block can be fitted when the fuselage is assembled. As I said theres still a lot of detail and paint to add, looking at high rez pics I think it needs it.. lol
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI10.jpg)
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Tanks.
Same as the engine, Basic assembly, base paint, some detailing done, I tried to replicate the solder seams with some success, the cartridge chutes are added making sure everything fits in the fuselage (it does upto now)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI14.jpg)
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Ammo cans
I’ve started hese, modding the cartridge belt holder is the biggest mod, I opened up the ammo feeds to the guns, PE flaps will be added, small extra details to be added.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI16.jpg)
Radiator.
Now a fairly big mod... could have turned out much worse, von Sleich’s craft appears to have a rad with a single reinforcing bar so I carefully shaved an d sanded the two on the WNW rad off and added one. Also it has a slide type shutter beneath I tried to replicate, with no real evidence of the arrangement I wasn’t happy and am in the process of redoing it.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI18.jpg)
Zoerst.
Added the flanges from the spare Cylinder half, a tiny detail but AMS demanded it!
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI17.jpg)
Fuel control panel.
Something close to finished. Added the valve assemblies from bits from the spares box, the levers are modded Bronco single wing butterfly nuts.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI20.jpg)
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Seat.
Done apart from final weathering and such. I used lead for the belts, fitted to Eduard buckles attachments and clasps. At pic time I noticed the blocked holes on the clasp.. sighs. I think I got the leather effect I was looking for this time.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI22.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/DV%202012/AMSALBI21.jpg)
Well thats all for now guys n girls. Comments as always more than welcome, no matter if good bad or pointers.
Cheers Keith
Seems I have a photoshop issue...lol will correct posts laters. dun hopefully. :-\
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Keith,
Amazing details my old friend. Each detail in today's update in itself is outstanding,but the seat is something special. You've got the leather look spot on perfect to my eyes. Please do tell me how you managed to get such perfect results.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Keith,
Amazing details my old friend. Each detail in today's update in itself is outstanding,but the seat is something special. You've got the leather look spot on perfect to my eyes. Please do tell me how you managed to get such perfect results.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
No... it's a trade secret Gregory!
Seriously. quite simple (building aside) using Citadel paints I basecoated in chaos black rattle can (having a son who is into warhammer has its perks) Over that I brushed roughly (sort of drybrushed but more blotchy) a dark redbrown (Lifecolor Rotbraun (yes WWII German armour camo) and dry brushed Citadel Tallarn lesh over that to pick out details. After sealing it all in with Future and letting it dry for days, a final double coat of Citadel Fleshwash gave it that rich patina allowing the colours beneath to glow through. I normally use the same washe but a lighter base, I'm more pleased with this though.
TY for the great comments too.. ;) Keith
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Amazing work on this one. Love the deep colours on the seat!!!
Steve
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No... it's a trade secret Gregory!
Seriously. quite simple (building aside) using Citadel paints I basecoated in chaos black rattle can (having a son who is into warhammer has its perks) Over that I brushed roughly (sort of drybrushed but more blotchy) a dark redbrown (Lifecolor Rotbraun (yes WWII German armour camo) and dry brushed Citadel Tallarn lesh over that to pick out details. After sealing it all in with Future and letting it dry for days, a final double coat of Citadel Fleshwash gave it that rich patina allowing the colours beneath to glow through. I normally use the same washe but a lighter base, I'm more pleased with this though.
TY for the great comments too.. ;) Keith
Keith,
Thanks very much for revealing such well guarded trade secrets my old friend. I'll have to check at the LHS next visit to see what Citadel paints are in stock. To date I've only used Citadel Bleached Bones for the interior CDL for my N.28. Nice paint too for brush painting,not tried it yet with the airbrush though.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Beautiful work... Rad mod is seamless ... Amazing
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My pleasure Gregory, Senseless keeping such things to yourself, if I can I hope my blog brings idea's to others, I learn more in turn from what others show, sometimes the most simple things... just share nd share alike. Knowledge isnt power, its a tool to share with one another.
BTW I thin Citadel with Tamiya X20-a thinners gives nice results, I use Citadel quite extensively.
Keith
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This is looking great.
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Fantastic work, Keith. The seat is a work of art and the soldering silver around the fittings on the tanks is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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I have been looking at purchasing this kit in the near future Keith:). I've also looked at the Roland.
You have done a great job sir!
Oh and your doggy picture is nice :D
Eric
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My eye is immediately drawn to your magneto wiring as I have more trouble with this aspect of a build than anything else. I always seem to end up with a spider's nest, if I'm lucky, and an unmitigated disaster if I'm not. Your work looks immaculate. Any tips in that regard?
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi guys, ta for the comments.
Eric, the Roland Kit is a beautiful kit, my opinion is its the best WNW kit I have built I am of course an Albatros nut but the Roland had a little extra detail, pipe clamps etc that just made it shine (missing fuel control levers though)
Chris, me too this is the first build I've managed a reasonable look to on the mag wiring. Simply .2 lead wire , I drilled recesses in the terminals used cyano gel and placed each length, then once dry twisted them gently together, it worked fine, I trimmed them to the harness tube, the lead is flexible enough and has no spring, but on the downside easy to crush and does break if excessively adjusted, Upto now its the best method I've found.
Hoping tor some resin sparkplugs arriving soon so I'm looking forwards to wiring those in.
Keith
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I see that I'm on the right track as I also used lead wire for my last two wiring jobs. I found it works much better than copper or steel wire as it's so much more flexible, but I'm still not getting the same clean look that you've achieved where it hooks up to the magnetos. I'll just have to keep practising.
Cheers,
Chris
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Where does one obtain lead wire?
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Thank you for the feedback on the Roland kit sir. I have been reading the instruction manuals online from the Wing Nut Wings website and contemplating which kit to purchase.
I will purchase the Roland kit.
Have fun,
Eric
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Where does one obtain lead wire?
This is where I got mine, Tony. I'm sure you can pick it up at any fishing shop.
http://www.basspro.com/Round-Lead-Wire-Spools/product/3038/55398?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductads&om_mmc=shopping_googleproductads&affcode_c=17kw2359705&SST=349e8616-c19c-d208-5a86-0000551d8ee6
Can also get it here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lead-Wire-Spool-for-fly-tying-all-6-sizes-/350220893148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item518acabbdc
Cheers,
Bud
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Where does one obtain lead wire?
I got mine from little-cars.com If you're in the UK, email is [email protected] he does a line of lead, brass stainless stee lwires, cotton covered wires, meshes and all sorts of bit designed for Model racing cars but very useable.
I dont have the link since my PC died but I'm sure you can find him easy enough
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Thanks for the tip re lead wire guys!
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I've just received a few different sizes of lead wire myself.
Cheers
Pete.
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Well, some progress made, I dedicated what time I had to the interior, some detailing and painting still to do and the column to detail but it's getting there I think. Theres a few basic tweaks, like moving the fuel control panel forwards a little. Fuel guage and magneto box mounted on scraps of Brass (never through etch frames away without snipping useful bits off.)
Eagle eyes might spot the greaser and mag box arent WNW... Roden spares came into play. though while detailing I managed to break off the greaser handle I have it still and it will be refixed before closing up. (Xs fingers)
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I tried a new approach to the wood, I wasnt after graining as much as *hinting at* graining. For once I actually got a light finish to the wood.. kept the Citadel flesh wash at bay. ;)
TY for looking, comments always well recieved.
Keith
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Keith,
Absolutetly beautiful details my old friend.I'm impressed with your woodwork in the interior. I believe you're on to something with your hinting at the graining. Will you be using the same technique on her exterior? LOL if this is yet another closely guarded trade secret I'll understand :'(.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Gorgeous interior, Keith. Superb craftsmanship.
Cheers,
Bud
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thanks guys. mucho appreciated. ;) ;)
Gregory, No I won't as I plumped to build von Sleich's aircraft, profile A on WNW's Instructions. So it's silver/grey... or blue.. and green, I see Hannants here in the UK have taken stock of some WNW decals so naybe next a D.Va with that lovely red lighting flash arrow might be on the cards. That said WNW have reshuffled their Releases page... me so wonders if something is imminent?
Keith
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Wow interior looks great Keith
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very nice stuff with all the copper plumbing and such.i really like you seat/cushion and belts. pretty spiffy.
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Keith, I can only agree with what everyone else has typed. Amazing, mate. Do you mind if I save some of your photo's to use as guidance when I start my D.V?
Dal.
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Keith, I can only agree with what everyone else has typed. Amazing, mate. Do you mind if I save some of your photo's to use as guidance when I start my D.V?
Dal.
Not at all Dal save away, sorry missed your post. Any questions just shout. :)
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Thanks, mate. There's loads of questions I want to ask, but I'll wait until I actually start the kit before asking (many will probably be answered by reading the instructions, too). At current build rates that should be about October 2016 or so.....
Cheers.
Dal.
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Keith, I am curious where you are going with the spent cartridge belt chutes. Any updates on this fantastic project?