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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: GrahamB on May 17, 2014, 02:35:49 PM

Title: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: GrahamB on May 17, 2014, 02:35:49 PM
Hi,

well here it is. A lovely autumn day here has kept me away from the workbench and computer. I have mounted it temporarily in some shots on a Taurus trestle (unpainted) to get a feel of the diorama setting.

The WNW Roland was a thoroughly good kit and in the hands of a real expert more could be done with it  than I have (the basics). There were no real problems with the build and construction although I am wary of some of the decals - upper wing crosses and the port-side fin decal.

Points to watch:

if doing the diagonal laminates on inner surface choose thinner paper than bog-standard printer paper

if doing the tubes for the rear rudder cabling attach them to the sides after installing the observer's seat

if using part E12 increase the angle of the handle as it might foul the wing root tabs otherwise (or leave off completely)

don't forget the oil tank A20 before closing left and right frames!

if doing a breather pipe on the radiator header tank drill out a hole for this before attaching to the engine (even if not adding the tubes at this point)

watch out for possible problems with upper wing cross panels and decal 19 (or 16?) on left side of fin.

watch out that any decal sitting over the port footstep (15, 22, 58 or 68) settles properly into it.

if using the flare holders (D19) paint the inner top strip (wood?)  - I forgot one side but they can be seen through the windows.

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/011cropped_zps833cc262.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/011cropped_zps833cc262.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/012cropped_zps984a8387.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/012cropped_zps984a8387.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/020cropped_zps45f82b95.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/020cropped_zps45f82b95.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/013_zpse18e6269.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/013_zpse18e6269.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/008cropped_zps4ae51efa.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/008cropped_zps4ae51efa.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/018cropped_zps7d19dccb.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/018cropped_zps7d19dccb.jpg.html)

(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss320/zeuxo/019cropped_zps2e6378ed.jpg) (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/zeuxo/media/019cropped_zps2e6378ed.jpg.html)


So - a 'white and blue' Roland consistent with many photos (in my opinion) and my German namesake Karl Vogel.

Altogether a wonderful kit and a big step up from the 1960's Airfix! THOROUGHLY RECOMMENDED!.

 I'm really tempted to do another - the Hippel 3645/16 Beobachter Schule Koln version in the CIIa kit looks the business - not a cheesy sharkmouth. A great diorama of a similar aircraft on last page of the Datafile too.

Many thanks to all! Let's see yours now!

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: kornbeef on May 17, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
Graham


Lovely work, a nice different interpretation too. Glad you are not scared to think outside the box.  :)
I'm sure more than a few members will thank you for the tips.

Keith
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Nigel Jackson on May 17, 2014, 03:47:36 PM
What a beautiful piece of work Graham and thank you for the list of building tips.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 17, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
Excellent!
Well done Graham and thanks for the tips  ;)

Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: justin1980 on May 17, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
Fantastic finish Graham, co really like the scheme.

Regards

Justin
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: lcarroll on May 17, 2014, 10:47:24 PM
Graham,
   Very nice work throughout, and like many here I like the scheme you chose, and did so well. A Model to be proud of.........well done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: LindsayT on May 17, 2014, 11:59:52 PM
Great work, Graham! Really well done.

Lindsay
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: lone modeller on May 18, 2014, 02:13:19 AM
Really good model there - certainly a step or two up from the Airfix kit! If you do build a second as you suggest make sure you post the photos - they will be worth looking forward to.
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: radio on May 18, 2014, 02:22:11 AM
You have make a very great build and paint. It looks wounderful Graham.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Ernie on May 18, 2014, 02:58:55 AM
You have really out-done yourself, Graham.  Congratulations on completing
the Walfisch beautifully.  Also much appreciated is the points to watch out
for, a great help for others.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: coyotemagic on May 18, 2014, 04:44:40 AM
She's stunning, Graham!  Congratulations on such a gorgeous result.  Thanks for the tips on the build.  I'll refer to them when I build mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Epeeman on May 18, 2014, 07:20:37 AM
Nice one, Graham!

I think you must be one of the first to complete one of these.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: stefanbuss on May 19, 2014, 04:01:02 AM
Stunning. Very well done. And thank you for highlighting things to watch out for.

Stefan
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Mark on May 19, 2014, 04:47:04 AM
Graham,

Wonderful model, stunning finish, and evocative basing!

Mark G.
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Russell on May 19, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
I'd decided to do the 'spots' version myself so this build has provided a lot of valuable information & inspiration.

Regards
Russell
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 19, 2014, 10:53:12 AM
First one I've seen finished by a modeler.  Well done, Graham!

Like others have said, the paint scheme is nice and different.  I like the lines on top so the observer doesn't shoot himself down...

Now I just need to save some $$ to get me one of those beauties!  Thanks for posting.

Dan
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: GrahamB on May 19, 2014, 11:23:05 AM
Hi,

thanks to all.

On the camouflage scheme, the only thing that deviates from WNW's suggestions of bleached linen for wings, blue-dyed or blue-tinted-dope lower wing surfaces (both in my case - tinted dope for cross panels) and unbleached CDL fuselage/yellow-beige metalwork, is the blue-tinted dope for the fuselage undersides. After seeing the Roland factory shot of two-toned CIIa fuselages I looked for this on the earlier C.II and can see, albeit faintly, a similar thing on several photos. The Schleich airframe is a somewhat modified/reconditioned version. Ray Rimell will be writing about these Roland schemes in a forthcoming Windsock I believe.

Cheers,

GrahamB

P.S. Will do a Pheon/WNW Albatros combination next (D.2140/Scheffer FEA 6) before tackling the Hannover.
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: jknaus on May 19, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
That turned out gorgeous. Really inspiring.
James
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: rhwinter on May 19, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
Graham, I love the Roland C.II a LOT ans am pleased with your rendering of a Walfisch! I'll surely be following your Albatros, but am most eagerly waiting for you, tackling the Hannover, which I Love dearly too, since I was a boy! Rchard
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: stefanbuss on May 20, 2014, 03:38:18 AM
Quote
Will do a Pheon/WNW Albatros combination next (D.2140/Scheffer FEA 6)

This is what I am actually working on.  ::) It will be interesting to compare your build to mine...

Stefan
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: RAGIII on May 20, 2014, 01:21:35 PM
Graham,
Absolutely beautifully done all around! The interpretation of the scheme is brilliant!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: PrzemoL on May 20, 2014, 09:00:57 PM
Very nice and interesting version of C.II colours. Congratulations on building the first of these in our forum!
Title: Re: WNW Roland CII Kasta 8, Kogohl II, mid-late1916
Post by: Adam on May 20, 2014, 10:38:11 PM
Graham.

Yours Roland looks great.
Thank you for the tips, I'm planning to buy WNW Rolland C.IIa in the next year. I think yours tips will be very useful for me.

Adam.