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Title: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on March 06, 2014, 08:30:50 PM: Hello,

This time I have decided to proceed with double strike of one the most beautiful aero plane ever created in WWI period.
I have seen a lot of WNW kits on forum so this thread will be a little bit different.
First one and most expected should be green-tailed Jasta 5 and second one Degelow black one, will see how my assumption will be located in the future.
As far as I am concerned there in only one picture of red Jasta 5 Pfalz D.III in the Jagdstaffel 5 special datafile from Albatros publications, which I do not possess for time being but I am going to get one >:(
So up to now I have done engines:
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05948.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05949.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05951.jpg)
decided to upgrade the engine bay:
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/DSC05963.JPG)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059561.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059571.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059581.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059591.jpg)
As there is no agreement how the interior looked like I have decided to use silbergrau for one and leave plain wood in the second one
Here we have some steps to do so:

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05953.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05954.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC05955.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059791.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059771.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059801.jpg)
some updates soon
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Ernie on March 06, 2014, 08:40:07 PM: Great start, Krzysiek. The engines are superb. Your detailing work on them is amazing.
Your talent is obvious. I will enjoy following your build. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on March 06, 2014, 10:09:59 PM: Excellent start! Your Engine detailing is super!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2014, 10:24:28 PM: What a harvest of Pfalz D.IIIs at our forum!!!! Almost makes me want to build one, once more!
This will be a yet one more thread to follow. Great start, Krzysiek. Your Ed's 48th scale is not too far from what WNW offers in 32nd! Great modelling, I am impatiently looking forward to see more.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Cimmerian on March 06, 2014, 10:25:23 PM: Nice start. If there's one thing I like more than a Pfalz it's two Pfalzs. :)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: lcarroll on March 07, 2014, 12:55:33 AM: Beautiful start, Krzysiek. Hard to believe the title isn't WNW 1:32 Scale. Looking forward to more great DIIIa's here.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: radio on March 07, 2014, 02:21:16 AM: A very nice start Krzysiek. Go on.
Martin
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: coyotemagic on March 07, 2014, 03:49:59 AM: Great job on the engines and framing, Krzysiek! I'm looking forward to following this build.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on March 07, 2014, 10:12:30 AM: i really like how you upgraded the eduard engine with springs and spark plugs, very nice. as far as interior colors of pfalz aircraft i think mostly it is believed to be a light grey/green painted.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: andonio64 on March 07, 2014, 08:56:34 PM: Beautiful start indeed!

Antonio
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on March 07, 2014, 10:10:21 PM: ...you are too flattering…it is long, long way from my 48 to 32..
ok. and first parts of fuselage are ready to merge, only dashboard should be assembled as well. As you see the engine is too small and was incorrectly measured by manufacturer

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059941.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059881.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059921.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059951.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059971.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059991.jpg)

this is where I am right now..
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Ernie on March 08, 2014, 02:38:54 AM: Lovely work, Kryzsiek. Very talented modelling indeed.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 08, 2014, 02:55:56 AM: This is all coming together so well Kryzsiek and I always look forward to your updates.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2014, 12:27:25 PM: I really like your interior work! Very well done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on March 12, 2014, 10:42:54 PM: Thanks for support :)

in the meantime, the fuselage interiors are done. Now the wings require some attention..
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060081.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060111.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060151.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060171.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060181.jpg)

regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on March 17, 2014, 08:06:05 PM: and again,

I took care of the wings form Jasta 5 Pfaltz as the final layer is to be silver I tried some preshading, gently at the beginning…
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059811.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059821.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059831.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC059841.jpg)
it does not look so good, I have decided to improve ribs and ailerons visibility and stopped somewhere here, as do not have any further idea how it should look like at the end:
the ribs masking:
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC06024.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC06023.jpg)

finally:
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060351.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060361.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC0604111.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060371.jpg)
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: IFF1418 on March 17, 2014, 08:23:17 PM: Very nice, wonderful engine and interior, great shading!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Adam on March 17, 2014, 11:58:32 PM: Your shading method looks great. Soon I will be paint wings of my Fokker E.II. I will try use your method. Can I? ;)

Adam.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Ernie on March 18, 2014, 01:19:57 AM: Krzysiek, you are making good progress on the Pfalz. Your masking work and
shading is first-rate. Nicely done!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on March 24, 2014, 10:07:37 PM: Quote from: Adam on March 17, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
Your shading method looks great. Soon I will be paint wings of my Fokker E.II. I will try use your method. Can I? ;)

Adam.

it is not my method, I just copy that from somewhere else ;D. Adam, can not wait for your updates with Fokker E.II ;)
ok. Barely finished those wings…that was really tough issue to be done and hope that results will be worth of doing them
Lower wing:

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060551.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060581.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060571.jpg)
and both

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060621.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060631.jpg)

regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on April 03, 2014, 06:22:17 PM: Degelow got his wings done as well..frankly doubt if all which was done will be visible after final black layer, but you never know until try

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060871.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060911.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060891.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060901.jpg)

regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: PrzemoL on April 03, 2014, 06:31:42 PM: Great efforts, Krzysiek. I wish you, that they are not in vain. Anyhow, my experience tells me, that postshading is much more effective.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: IFF1418 on April 03, 2014, 06:46:24 PM: Hello Krzysiek,

Exceptional work on the shading. Looks really great! Keep on this good work!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Jacek on April 04, 2014, 04:16:44 AM: I am very curious of the final effect. ::)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Dal Gavan on April 04, 2014, 04:27:09 PM: I'm really interested in seeing how the shading turns out, Krzysiek. It's a technique I haven't mastered yet, but with two RFC planes under construction, I need to work out how to do it pretty quickly.

Good stuff.

Dal.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on April 04, 2014, 10:14:36 PM: Great work on your shading so far. Like the others I am looking forward to seeing the final results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on April 07, 2014, 09:19:50 PM: ok guys, here we have the reults
I have painted Jasta 5 wings Vallejo alu with little bit of grey and have some doubts about the outcome.
The fact is that, depending on the gaze angle with same light, the effect is quite different. IMHO the ribbing is too visible right now and should be more integrated into the overall picture of the wings ... The color of the canvas sometimes breaks through the aluminum and that effect found really interesting.
To sum up all preshading work was really tedious and monotonous, the final result only slightly captures the workload done. Nevertheless It was worth a try
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060931.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060941.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060951.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC060961.jpg)
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on April 10, 2014, 09:44:39 AM: Nicely done effect!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on April 15, 2014, 10:12:53 PM: Hi,
Little update In case of Jasta 5 bird. Now we can be sure that it belongs to “Green Tails”
Preshading was done in that case as well and I am happy with the results. One can observe really subtle claret below green, not well visible of photos but it is for sure!!

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC061431.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC061461.jpg)
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Adam on April 16, 2014, 05:46:07 PM: Very nice painting, thin strips on the outskirts are wonderful.

Adam.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Cimmerian on April 16, 2014, 07:32:38 PM: Looking very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: Ernie on April 16, 2014, 09:17:18 PM: Well done on the painting, Krzysiek. Very good progress on this colourful Pfalz.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2014, 11:29:34 PM: Excellent work on the Tail feathers!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: IFF1418 on April 17, 2014, 08:48:31 PM: Tremendous paintwork Krzysiek. You are very talented.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on April 22, 2014, 05:18:22 AM: Thanks for support!
Now she is dangerous and might bite!

(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC061501.jpg)

regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on April 22, 2014, 10:50:44 PM: Outstanding!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: vincentm on April 29, 2014, 11:21:17 AM: Very beautiful. I love the cockpit and engine details. The Pfalz D-III has became probably my favorite german plane of the era, because of both its aerodynamical shape and colored paintings. Looking forward to see them completed.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on May 05, 2014, 04:48:56 AM: ok, time to move on..
the rigging is done but not fixed even painted. The undercarriage must be assembled as well.
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062351.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062371.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062381.jpg)
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: vincentm on May 05, 2014, 08:13:32 AM: She already looks pretty good. I read you plan to make Degelow's a/c. I've seen different representations of this bird, with either silver or black wings. Do you have any further info about the real colors of this machine? I've one picture of it but because of the lighting, it's hard to tell.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: radio on May 05, 2014, 08:32:06 AM: It looks very nicely, well done.
Martin
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2014, 09:49:02 AM: A real BEAUTY! Looks better with each update!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: IFF1418 on May 05, 2014, 08:10:46 PM: This is a great progress of an extremely nice build.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on May 05, 2014, 09:09:59 PM: Thank you!
Quote from: vincentm on May 05, 2014, 08:13:32 AM
She already looks pretty good. I read you plan to make Degelow's a/c. I've seen different representations of this bird, with either silver or black wings. Do you have any further info about the real colors of this machine? I've one picture of it but because of the lighting, it's hard to tell.
Eduard made the mistake, Degelow's should be all black, you can find some photos on WNW pages regarding Pfalz D.IIIa
regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: vincentm on May 05, 2014, 09:36:15 PM: OK thanks for the info. Looking forward to see your build of Degelow's a/c.
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: KrzysiekK on May 11, 2014, 08:48:16 PM: Hello,

Forgot about the prop, shame on me:(
so I prefer to paint than manufacture from wood, it is just save of time for me so here you have few steps of doing:
wood grain draft:
(http://[img]http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062491.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062501.jpg)
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062511.jpg)
some oil paint layer
(http://kosior.cp.win.pl/krzysiek/warsztat/PfalzDIIIa/IS_DSC062521.jpg)
and will see if some further enhancement will be needed..

regards
K
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2014, 10:11:19 PM: Nicely done prop! Looks fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: radio on May 12, 2014, 01:30:09 AM: Beautiful painting for your prop.
Martin
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: justin1980 on May 12, 2014, 02:42:17 AM: Fantastic work, the colours look great but your prop is stunning!
Title: Re: Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa, double strike
Post by: mc65 on May 12, 2014, 04:05:21 AM: beautiful paint work on the wings surfaces, and amazing prop!! ;)