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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on March 04, 2014, 08:00:20 AM

Title: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 04, 2014, 08:00:20 AM: I have been working on this kit for over two weeks now. I am planning to build a model of one of 20 Dh.9s donated by Great Britain to Poland in 1920. They were used in the war against Russia in 1920. I have chosen H5721 known from two photos, one of them is included in the Windsock Datafile on DH.9.

I have been busy with interior bits, there are quite a lot of them. The photos in the Datafile and in the WNW instruction do not reveal too many details not covered in the kit. A few exceptions include:
i) four cables running to the panel at the right hand side of the pilot instrument panel (I have already added them from a thin wire - just visible in the third photo)
ii) copper pipes (?) running along the right side of the pilot place which will be added to the assembly later.

I have added quite a few of Bob's eyelets for the interior rigging, painted all the bits, decalled the instruments and info plates, applied some wash which still has to be retouched and sealed with varnish. Then the real interior assembly will start.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-31_zps6c4cb232.jpg)

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-32_zps435c1533.jpg)

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-33_zpsfd7255b0.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on March 04, 2014, 08:02:53 AM: Beautiful start Prez!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Des on March 04, 2014, 08:08:14 AM: An excellent start Prze, your instrument panel looks brilliant as does the rest of the interior, looking forward to seeing this build progress.

Des.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: radio on March 04, 2014, 08:22:08 AM: It is a brilliant beginning Prze.
Martin
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on March 04, 2014, 08:28:53 AM: Gorgeous work on the innards, Prez! So glad to see a DH9 being built. I'm really going to enjoy this project.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on March 04, 2014, 09:38:59 AM: Hello Prez:

Like Bud, glad to see some work on this a/c. Interior looks great, nice wood affect. Looking forward to more.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Dal Gavan on March 04, 2014, 09:59:39 AM: Very nice, Prze. The instrument panel is really well done.

Cheers.

Dal.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on March 04, 2014, 12:17:21 PM: Prez,
Gorgeous interior from your talented hands! Beautiful work as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: rhwinter on March 04, 2014, 04:46:23 PM: Hi, Przemol, here I am... :) Thanks for sharing your build - an interesting subject, you choose: I am very much interested in the "post-Great-War"-period, especially in the east. The interior looks very promising so far! I like especially the wood-effect, you achieve.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 04, 2014, 06:09:33 PM: Superb interior work there Prez, this is going to be another stunner...
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on March 04, 2014, 09:31:17 PM: Oh man, Prze, you do such good work. Your woodgrain looks fantastic and the colour of
the interior is beautiful. The detail bits really bring it all to life. Superb start.
I will enjoy following your build, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: acewwi on March 05, 2014, 05:48:14 AM: Dear Przemol
excellent start, here a foto of sterling wireless set of wwi
URL=http://s1267.photobucket.com/user/acewwi/media/A0137_ex.jpg.html](http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj552/acewwi/A0137_ex.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on March 05, 2014, 06:30:40 AM: Hello Prez:

Thanks for posting the photo of the wireless. For a minute, just a passing nano second, I thought it was the wireless from the kit and you had detailed it in the fashion of Bo and Dave (KONG), thereby elevating the modelers art to a heretofore unprecedented new level of realism. ;) That being written, it provides a lot of detail for detailing the kit wireless.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 05, 2014, 07:54:14 AM: Thank you, everybody for your kind welcome to my new build.
And I am very very grateful to acewwi for the excellent photo of the wireless! You saved me, or better say - my model. I was suspecting the all black was dubious. With your help I could correct the colours!

So here are a few close-ups

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-34_zps42585f7a.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-35_zps91c32187.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-36_zps2879ad22.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-37_zpsde459f12.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-38_zps371ef2f7.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-39_zps7fa067a1.jpg)

Macro-photography is merciless. I still have to correct a couple of details.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on March 05, 2014, 08:53:42 AM: Quote
Macro-photography is merciless. I still have to correct a couple of details.

For sure, but what you've done looks splendid to me. I like the leather tones on the seat cushions, and the instrument panel is really a little jewel...
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2014, 02:46:56 AM: You are far too kind, Bo. Jewels are those bits, you add to your Albie...
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: radio on March 06, 2014, 03:34:08 AM: What a beautiful work, it look so nice Przemot.
Martin
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on March 06, 2014, 04:05:38 AM: Hello Prez:

Like Bo, I like your leather work; very convincing, the wicker is really nice. The instrument panel is indeed a jewel as is the wireless. I don't see the details to be corrected, it all looks great. Looking forward to more.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 06, 2014, 07:58:47 AM: Thanks, Martin and Mark.

I have finished the cockpit, it is now ready to be buried in the fuselage

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-40_zpsb63cf501.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-41_zps97ff2245.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-42_zpsb996bea8.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-43_zpsf4d5c638.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-44_zpse258d633.jpg)

Provisionally dry-fitted to the fuselage halves.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-45_zps1b402b49.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-46_zps5058ac5f.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-47_zpse5e95989.jpg)

Now for the Puma engine!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 06, 2014, 08:10:34 AM: What a beautiful start you've made PrzemoL. It looks really convincing

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Des on March 06, 2014, 08:17:05 AM: You have done a splendid job with the interior Przemol, the colours your have used are very realistic and the leather is extremely convincing, well done so far.

Des.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:23 AM: Spectacular job on the interior, Prez! Your usual brilliant work.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 06, 2014, 08:29:20 PM: (http://chrisblattman.com/files/2011/07/facebook_like_button_big1.jpg) :)

Vb
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on March 06, 2014, 08:34:04 PM: Prze, you keep raising the bar. It's such a shame to have to hide some of that amazing
detail. I'm thankful at least quite a bit is able to be seen through the openings. I look
forward to more of your wonderful work on the DH.9.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on March 06, 2014, 10:07:02 PM: Prez,
Stunning work to say the least! Your work is not only BEAUTIFUL but very clean! I need to work on that part on my next builds 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Brez on March 07, 2014, 01:04:20 AM: I've been hoping that someone would do an 'Under Construction' on one of these, the DH9 is one of my faves. Who better than you Prez? Even by your high standards this is absolutely sensational!
Keep up the good work,
Tony.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 07, 2014, 04:58:03 AM: Wonderful interior Prez, setting the standard for this model.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lone modeller on March 07, 2014, 05:13:23 AM: Amazing work and so beautifully done. As Des has written the wood and leather interiors are so realistic that they could easily be mistaken for the real thing. If the engine is nearly as good as this (and I know that it will be), then this will be another winner from you.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 07, 2014, 08:07:52 AM: That is sooo pleasant to read all your overly kind comments. Thank you, everybody.

Quote from: lone modeller on March 07, 2014, 05:13:23 AM
... If the engine is nearly as good as this (and I know that it will be), then this will be another winner from you.
That remains to be seen. But your faith in me is very encouraging, lone modeller. ;)
I have just started removing the engine bits from sprues and cleaning them. First dry fitting attempts reveal usual WNW standard. And from the photos it seems there will be not too much to add, just electric wires and some plumbing (after all I am not Bo - he would gladly substitute most of the bits I take as just fine). The rest will be well covered by the panels... Again, the photos will come when I have anything painted and assembled.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on March 07, 2014, 08:21:57 AM: (http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-halo.gif)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 07, 2014, 08:25:42 AM: Quote from: Bo Monroe on March 07, 2014, 08:21:57 AM
(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-halo.gif)

Bo, I meant no offence, just wanted to say I build almost OOB and you (and some others) reach the high level of modification. Just this. :-[
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on March 07, 2014, 08:31:58 AM: Quote from: PrzemoL on March 07, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: Bo Monroe on March 07, 2014, 08:21:57 AM
(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-halo.gif)

Bo, I meant no offence, just wanted to say I build almost OOB and you (and some others) reach the high level of modification. Just this. :-[

hehe, i understood what you meant, no offense taken!

carry on then :)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 07, 2014, 08:34:17 AM: Quote from: Bo Monroe on March 07, 2014, 08:31:58 AM
Quote from: PrzemoL on March 07, 2014, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: Bo Monroe on March 07, 2014, 08:21:57 AM
(http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-halo.gif)

Bo, I meant no offence, just wanted to say I build almost OOB and you (and some others) reach the high level of modification. Just this. :-[

hehe, i understood what you meant, no offense taken!

ufff, lucky me...

Quote from: Bo Monroe on March 07, 2014, 08:31:58 AM
carry on then :)

I will, sir, I will ;)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on March 07, 2014, 09:39:12 AM: nice,my friend looking excellent
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 07, 2014, 10:57:40 AM: Dittos to the above, nice work so typical of your fine skills !

Ed
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 08, 2014, 07:56:15 AM: Thanks, oh kind people!

I have decided to divert from the WNW instructions sequence and put the fuselage halves together before the engine instalation. They are now taped to let the glue cure. But I could not resist to dry-fit the engine, the radiator and the top fuselage panel. The latter element is very tight-fit - some delicate sanding will be required to install it smoothly. Otherwise, no problems.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-48_zps8043c436.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-49_zps67b1cbe6.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-50_zps5792b64f.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2014, 12:26:24 PM: Looks terrific! I assume fitting the engine later allows some advantage to painting or detailing?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 08, 2014, 08:42:14 PM: Quote from: RAGIII on March 08, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
Looks terrific! I assume fitting the engine later allows some advantage to painting or detailing?
RAGIII
Yes. No risk of damage to the engine during masking.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Steven Robson on March 08, 2014, 09:09:40 PM: Beautiful cockpits PrzemoL :)

Steven
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Graham t on March 08, 2014, 09:18:39 PM: This is going to be a stunner!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on March 09, 2014, 01:49:52 AM: It is a pleasure watching your work, Prze. The close tolerances of the Wingnut kits
do take a bit of getting used to.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: FokkerFodder on March 09, 2014, 06:37:57 PM: Lovely stuff - your leather, woodwork and wicker are supurb......

Sorry, but if you're going to post such lovely work, I'm going to have to ask for tips!

How do you get the two tones in the wood? Do you carefully handpaint the darker effects over once the lighter shade is dry, or simply blend in the darker colour at the same time using a brush to get the woodgrain effects? And I'm not really satisified with my leather attempts, despite oil washes, attempted highlighting and so on ... I can't seem to get the rich depth of colour like yours. Aside from talent :), any other tips you have....?

cheers

FF
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Sean morgan on March 09, 2014, 09:32:32 PM: These wing nuts are like a drug !!! I have to get one of these it's just to much to resist after looking at your cockpit coming together, just beautiful PrzemoL!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 11, 2014, 12:22:44 AM: Thank you, oh kind people!

FF, you are welcome to ask questions, my methods are not secrets.
Wood - I airbrush the base colour, a mix of Mid Stone (Pactra) and Beige Brown (Vallejo) depending on the final shade - darker or brighter. Then I paint with a thin brush a pattern using a darker mix. Sometimes I retouch with brigther again. Then follow thin layers of Clear Orange. I usually use Pactra but I have just ran out of it and in this model I used Tamiya. The number of layers depends on the depth of orange you wish to get. Finally I apply dark brown wash which also serves to add some more wood pattern, not just to emphasize the surface detail.

The leather is from the bas mix of Red Leather and Chocolate Brown (both Vallejo) with dark brown wash retouched numerous times to get the satisfactory result.

In both cases I use a water colour wash which has to be sealed with clear (gloss, satin or matt - or a combination to get the desired level of gloss/matt).

There is really nothing more to it. Although some testing on scrap plastic pieces is advisable.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: FokkerFodder on March 11, 2014, 04:53:58 PM: cheers!! I'll try experimenting with this approach for the next build....... a non-oils approach to wood and leather.......
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 11, 2014, 07:56:41 PM: The chief advantage of water colours is that you may correct the wash as many times as you wish. It is very easy to wipe it totally if you are not satisfied and start again.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Adam on March 11, 2014, 11:07:12 PM: Przemol is nice to see your the next model, specially from my favorite historical period.
Interior looks great.

Adam.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 14, 2014, 07:11:37 AM: Thanks, Adam.

Recently I was working on the Puma engine. Here it is as WNW gave it. Now some scratch will follow - electric wires, some plumbing, carburetter control rods, whatever can be seen in a few photos available.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-64_zps00a5de94.jpg)

And provisionally seated at its place.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-60_zpsf06e106e.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-61_zpscc0c6657.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-62_zpsfb1cd1d5.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-63_zps2333977d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on March 14, 2014, 07:49:56 AM: Prze,
Nice work on the engine for just the beginning. Can you share what paints were used & what you used for staining and highlighting?
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 14, 2014, 07:54:37 AM: Quote from: lcarroll on March 14, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
Prze,
Nice work on the engine for just the beginning. Can you share what paints were used & what you used for staining and highlighting?
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks. And sure, I can share the colours. Silver is still (though running out far too quick) old and now unavailable Mithril Silver from Citadel, Brass tips of spark plugs are Vallejo, black is ModelMaster and staining is black and green-brown water colour wash sealed with Thin layer of Clear.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: coyotemagic on March 14, 2014, 08:04:37 AM: Stellar work on the engine, my old friend! Your water color wash is brilliantly executed.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on March 14, 2014, 11:21:11 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on March 14, 2014, 08:04:37 AM
Stellar work on the engine, my old friend! Your water color wash is brilliantly executed.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree completely with My Amigo Bud! Beautifuly done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on March 15, 2014, 12:15:09 AM: Hello Prez:

It looks like an engine that has seen service. Very nicely weathered and oiled, but not overly so. Looking forward to seeing you wire it up.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on March 15, 2014, 04:30:02 AM: Prez,
By water colours do you mean the stuff that comes in tubes, what brand?
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PROPELLER on March 15, 2014, 06:49:20 AM: A pure beauty this engine! Congrats!
Dan.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Epeeman on March 15, 2014, 08:44:45 AM: Hello, Prez -

Your worn metallic look to your motor looks spot on (presume use of dark paint washes to achieve the effect?) - looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: rhwinter on March 16, 2014, 03:41:35 AM: From me too a huge LIKE!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Zabu on March 16, 2014, 04:05:55 AM: Awesome stuff Prez.

Very nicely done.

Cheers
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on March 19, 2014, 08:15:41 AM: Thank you, again.

Lance, these are the water paints I am using:

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/farba1_zps95dc6cce.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/farba2_zps30e697eb.jpg)

After the weekend spent at the 11th Modelling Festival in Bytom (a photo relation will come soon) I came back to this model. A few wires and some plumbing added.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-54_zps7a573562.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-52_zps63bc72b6.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-53_zpsc6535136.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-51_zps213b6928.jpg)

I am looking for any photos showing the fuel feed to the carbs in DH.9. Any help will be warmly welcome!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on March 19, 2014, 12:08:26 PM: The leftover sprue engine stand is awesome :) waste not want not!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Airboss 55 on March 20, 2014, 09:03:44 AM: Always great to see new techniques. They really motivate me to build the next kit and try them out. Love the way the engine turned out. Great photos! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on March 22, 2014, 01:35:56 AM: Absolutely stunning job of the engine, Prze. Wonderful work with the Poster Paints.
Inspiring efforts, my friend!

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 04, 2014, 08:03:09 AM: It has been quite a long time without any updates. However, this does not mean I was idle. Filling and sanding of fuselage multiple joints (the kit has a queer parts breakdown here), drilling and placing numerous eyelets for rigging, then finally some paint. The undersides got CDL, Polish markings and shading, so with some colours already on I decided to show it

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-55_zps78a8da09.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-59_zpsf5a9f7a0.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-57_zps065a9379.jpg)

The fuselage openings are masked and ready for grey and PC10

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-58_zps3cd2969e.jpg)

The radiator and the auxiliary oil tank ready to be attached

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-56_zps0de1bc02.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Dal Gavan on April 04, 2014, 04:11:09 PM: I love the way you finished that engine, Prze. I've been tempted by this kit, but I need to thin the stash before buying more models. So I'll enjoy this kit through watching your build.

Dal.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: IFF1418 on April 04, 2014, 06:32:22 PM: Hello Przemo,

Your craftmanship simply bumps off my screen. This is all so neat. Wonder how human hands can do this.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on April 04, 2014, 09:55:46 PM: Simply BEAUTIFUL PAINTING as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: bobs_buckles on April 05, 2014, 01:39:13 AM: Wonderful work, Prze!
She will be a stunner when complete.

Cheers,
BVB
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on April 05, 2014, 05:51:39 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on April 04, 2014, 09:55:46 PM
Simply BEAUTIFUL PAINTING as always!
RAGIII

Gotta agree with my Amigo !!

Ed
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: lcarroll on April 05, 2014, 06:25:11 AM: My Oh My, Prze, that subtle shading is really impressive! Another "thing of beauty" in the making by one of our most talented Builders! I'll be following closely, I received this Kit as a Christmas Gift and will need some good reference and inspiration when it's time comes.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 05, 2014, 08:11:39 PM: Top shelf stuff Prez as usual! Lovely job on the interior and engine. Looks like a much easier build than the 1/48 Roden kit I had the joy of building a while back....!

BC
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 06, 2014, 07:13:13 AM: Thanks, everybody,
Brad, it is hard to compare Roden's and WNW's quality, but your DH.9 is absolutely spectacular.

In the meantime I have finally realised, that my H5721 in Polish markings had extended rear fuselage plywood panels. I decided to adopt the kit sides by removing the wrong positioned stitching and made scratch ones at the correct places. A strip of self-adhesive alu foil, a few 0.3mm drill holes with U-shaped copper wire pieces inserted, all secured with brushed clear acrylic lacquer should do. But I will know how it worked only when it will be airbrushed.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-60_zpsaba7e48d.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-61_zpsb32e56e5.jpg)

Now it is time for tedious masking of wings and tailplane under surfaces leaving thin bands on the leading and trailing edges for "returned" upper side colour...
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Epeeman on April 06, 2014, 07:46:04 AM: Great work so far, Prez -

Another top shelf model on the way by the look of things!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on April 06, 2014, 08:00:35 AM: Nice. I'm certain that will be very convincing.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: IFF1418 on April 07, 2014, 06:21:07 PM: Hello Przemo,

Very inventive and convincing work on the stitching. Great modeling!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Adam on April 07, 2014, 07:10:31 PM: Maybe yours improvement will be looks more natural than original made by WNW on the model. :)

Adam.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on April 07, 2014, 10:01:36 PM: Quote from: Adam on April 07, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Maybe yours improvement will be looks more natural than original made by WNW on the model. :)

Adam.

Yeah, I think so... Theirs looks like it was done by a computer...
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: IvotB on April 08, 2014, 12:23:16 AM: Hello Przemol,

Your stitching really looks execellent. Far better than the stitching provided by WNW on the fuselage. For the simple reason that your stitching has slightly more depth and is just 98% identical, which makes it better.

I'm afraid that for the best effect, you need to redo the stitching of WNW in the same fashion.

Furthermore, I admire your build. I have one DH9 waiting in my stash. I'm still considering either to build the LVA version or a KLM version. The last version will need some conversion.

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on April 08, 2014, 12:28:42 AM: Quote from: IvotB on April 08, 2014, 12:23:16 AM
Hello Przemol,
...
I'm afraid that for the best effect, you need to redo the stitching of WNW in the same fashion.
...
regards,
Ivo

I have come to realize Ivo is a bit of a troublemaker. ;D
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: IvotB on April 08, 2014, 12:32:43 AM: I do apologise, but it's just admiration of the level of perfection that you are achieving that brings out the worst in me ;)

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 08, 2014, 03:36:46 AM: You guys, flatter me too much.
Anyway, I have painted the PC10 and my added stiching indeed has more 3D depth but I reckon that WNW's one with some wash will be similar enough, tough more repetitive. Some photos will come when PC10 is shaded.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 08, 2014, 06:20:32 AM: The shading is not done, yet. First I have to paint the national markings and the serial. My first time to use masks exclusively. For the checkboards I am using my own rectangles cut from the masking tape. For the serial I have ordered masks to be cut to the shape I created in a graphics program basing on shapes of digits and letters seen in photos of DH.9. As you see, in all the cases some retouching in necessary. I will cover what I got with a coat of clear varnish, than delicately sand the borders with 2000 sand paper and then will see what else can or should be done.
You can also see my stiching versus the original kit one. I suppose that some wash will make them look one similar enough to another...

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-62_zpsc6c2681e.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-63_zpsbafdb058.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-64_zps1b419be2.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: DC87 on April 09, 2014, 11:21:35 AM: Really enjoyed admiring the work you have done so far, keep the inspiration coming.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on April 10, 2014, 09:43:40 AM: Beautiful as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: IFF1418 on April 10, 2014, 04:10:46 PM: Hello PrzemoL,

Outstanding work. The color is just beautiful.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 10, 2014, 04:59:03 AM: Dear friends, I have to ask your pardon... During the build of this model I became too lazy to take any in-progress photos. And now, when the model is finished I can only report a few additions and issues I had on the way and invite you to the gallery.

Besides what I reported earlier I have added:
1) wiring, fuel plumbing, control rods and few details to the engine
2) spent cartridge collector box for Vickers
3) used Parabellum gun from WNW Hannover kit - oddly this example of DH.9 had the German gun installed, probably they came to Poland without Lewis guns, Vickers guns seem to be visible in the photos
4) radiator drain cock

I had some problems with the cooling water tank and fuel lines between the fuselage and the upper wing - they all came to be too long. I had to shorten them by about 1.5mm. I am not sure why it was so, the cabane struts do not leave any margin of error here.
Also the fit of the carburetter intake pipes was not perfect at all - I had to trim them and to sand delicately the openings in the fuselage sides. Generally, if you look closer to the kit instructions regarding the carbs, there is some contradiction - three nice shots of two variants of carbs do not correspond to what instructions tells you to mount on the engine.
The interplane struts also required some care, the outer ones were very loose in their sockets, the inner ones - quite contrary had very tight fit. I have attached the cabane ones first (one of them was loose, too), put the upper wings on to control the geometry while the glue was setting. Then I repeated the same with the interplane ones.
What is also surprising is the question of longer and shorter plywood sides in the rear fuselage. The kit gives only the short version, while one of kit options - Bonus, just like the one I built, requires the longer version. I have just realised that Ninak kit has both of them. So it is indeed surprising, why WNW omitted this detail here.
This list in by no means meant to be critical. This kit is overall absolutely high quality product, one you grow to expect from WNW. I only mention those issues to give some hints to you, who might like to build your DH.9. Highly recommended!!!

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/DH9/dh9-09_zps73978325.jpg)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: uncletony on May 10, 2014, 05:08:31 AM: Excellent, looking forward to the walkaround!
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: Ernie on May 10, 2014, 05:25:01 AM: It really doesn't get any better. Beautiful work, Prze.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: radio on May 10, 2014, 05:37:23 AM: Great work and painting Przemol.
Martin
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: RAGIII on May 10, 2014, 08:20:25 AM: Outstanding work as always from your bench! Your painting,weathering, and rigging are always STUNNING!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: jknaus on May 14, 2014, 06:17:11 AM: Beautiful. Really nice work on that. I like all the extra details you added and the painting is great.
James
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 14, 2014, 07:13:35 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on May 10, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
Outstanding work as always from your bench! Your painting,weathering, and rigging are always STUNNING!
RAGIII

Just to ad more of the same compliments !

Ed
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on May 15, 2014, 02:38:58 AM: Hello Prez:

Looking mighty fine. I wonder why the fuel lines and manifold fit was off? Hmmmmmmm. I like the scheme and the look of the aircraft. Sort of an ungainly looking thing, but neat just the same.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 15, 2014, 06:01:01 PM: Thank you, gentlemen, I am glad you like it.

Mark, the fuel lines and tank question is a surprise and mystery for me, too. I still tend to think I got something wrong here. The fact is I could not squeeze them between the dryfit upper wing.
And the aircraft is not at all ungainly to my eyes, at least it is much more elegant than its improvement - Ninak.
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: mgunns on May 16, 2014, 11:48:51 AM: Hi Prez:

You are correct, the NINAK is more ungainly, looks like a Sperm Whale with wings. Still neat a/c, both of them.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: KONG on May 21, 2014, 09:44:59 AM: Awesome Prez

You are quicker than me ;) Beautiful job, I am impressed at the skill you have my friend.

Top marks and a pat on the back

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Airco DH.9 (1/32, Wingnut Wings)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 21, 2014, 04:43:01 PM: Thank you, KONG. I am glad you like my DH.9 :)