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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Stickman on March 04, 2014, 03:41:13 AM

Title: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Stickman on March 04, 2014, 03:41:13 AM
Just thought I would share a photo of my Fokker EIV cockpit, First time building an aircraft, I usually model armour but fancied a change of pace.
Quality of the kit is great but some parts are stupidly delicate although I didn't manage to break anything removing parts from the sprue. I used my trusty old Historex Pyrogravure with no problems.
The Harness is a HGW item as the kits brass parts just looked like bloody hard work!
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 04, 2014, 03:50:09 AM
And a very nice start you have made too, Stickman. It will be great to see how things develop. Don't forget to share with us any tips and techniques you bring across from the world of model armour.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: radio on March 04, 2014, 04:22:33 AM
It is a good start go on Stickman.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: coyotemagic on March 04, 2014, 04:41:08 AM
Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of WWI aircraft modeling!  Exceptional work on the cockpit.  I look forward to more.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Stickman on March 04, 2014, 05:15:16 AM
Thanks for the comment guys,
 one thing I have learn from armour modelling is to let the paint finish take care of itself, what I mean is I don't worry about whether an item is totally matt or semi gloss or even glossy unless it's cloth material like harnesses. I usually paint with a matt finish and let my weathering techniques create subtle variations to the sheen of the paint, this creates interest in areas of single colour. I do use oil paints a lot in my weathering, I love the way you can create shadows and different sheens to items to differentiate between materials.
I'm working on the lMG08's at the moment and I purposely have not weathered the cooling jacket as I want to create contrast between the steel body of the gun and the more fragile sheet metal of the jacket itself
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Mark on March 04, 2014, 05:58:24 AM
Looking REALLY good!

Mark G.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: mgunns on March 04, 2014, 07:39:50 AM
Hello Stickman and welcome aboard:

Cockpit looks the business.  Looking forward to seeing you progress and how you do your weathering with the guns and the jackets.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Ernie on March 04, 2014, 10:09:27 PM
Nice to have you with us, Stickman.  Really nice work on the cockpit.  You sure you
haven't done these aeroplanes before? ;D  Good job on the Spandau.  I'm looking
forward to the rest of your build.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Andi Little on March 05, 2014, 01:50:03 AM
Great start - and very clean work. .............. I'll be watching.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: RAGIII on March 05, 2014, 03:42:02 AM
Welcome to the forum and the wonderful world of WWI aircraft modeling!  Exceptional work on the cockpit.  I look forward to more.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with Bud on your cockpit! I also want to welcome you and I will follow your thread with interest!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: LindsayT on March 05, 2014, 11:13:30 AM
Welcome to the forum, Stickman. I'm hoping you'll share some of your techniques with oil paints here. That would be a useful technique to add to the toolbox.

Good luck with the build.

Lindsay
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Des on March 05, 2014, 11:27:11 AM
Beautiful work on the cockpit and the machine gun looks excellent, looking forward to following along with this build.

Des.
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Post by: PrzemoL on March 05, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Very fine modelling on this interior and Spandau! Crisp and tidy, looking forward to see more.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Stickman on March 09, 2014, 12:47:54 AM
One thing I didn't mention about the lMG08 is that when rolling the cooling jacket I did not soften the brass before forming as recommended on the WNW web site. The part forms easily enough without softening, a cautionary note if you do soften it then it's far too easy to deform.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: uncletony on March 09, 2014, 01:24:30 AM
Yes but you can always temper the part by reheating & quenching ;)
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Steven Robson on March 13, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Yes, very sweet Stickman, I like it and will enjoy this build.

If I use the WnW photo-etch (rarely) I like to anneal, roll then re-heat and do the cold water thing.

Steven

p.s. I love armour (but don't model it) I'm interested in any weathering techniques from armour modelling that you share with the Forum.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Graham t on March 14, 2014, 12:51:42 AM
Lovely cockpit!  Great paintwork.

Let me see if I have this business of etched parts correct.  I heat over a flame, then cool & form as required.  Are people saying that, once formed, you should repeat the process to "lock" it & thereby prevent it deforming during handling?
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: uncletony on March 14, 2014, 03:35:45 AM
Let me see if I have this business of etched parts correct.  I heat over a flame, then cool & form as required.  Are people saying that, once formed, you should repeat the process to "lock" it & thereby prevent it deforming during handling?

Almost. To soften, heat and let cool slowly. To harden, heat and then quench in cold water. In neither case do you want to get the part red-hot.
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Post by: Zabu on March 16, 2014, 05:48:43 AM
Very nice interior. Well done

Cheers
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Stickman on March 24, 2014, 03:52:38 AM
Latest update
I have been working on the fuselage sides today and despite my best assembly efforts whilst dry fitting the cockpit tub I found it was to wide to fit the fuselage and resulted in approx. .5mm gap by the fuel filler, I have read that this is a common fault that I rectified by sanding down the sides of the tub to get the fuselage to close. I have also added some plasticard laps to the inside of the top and bottom joints so that I can ensure that when glued both sides will be true to each other rather than just relying on the locating pins. The engine start switch (Part G17) that fits to the inside of the fuselage wall looks like it will be a tight fit with the cockpit frame, not sure if it will clear the frame yet, I might be getting paranoid with the rather to tight tolerances. seems only the thinnest coat of paint throws everything out!
Popped over the the model show at Hinckley this morning and picked up an élan miniatures ww1 german pilot figure. I had a look in the competition hall and there were some good models on show but unfortunately the lighting was that horrible orange sodium lighting you get in sports halls, so it was difficult to see the subtle shading and colouring correctly
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: Stickman on April 13, 2014, 07:18:54 AM
Latest update shows the cowl panel with lMG08's installed, I thought this might be problematic getting everything to line up but things worked out fine. I placed the guns into the firewall panel without gluing them in place then fixed the upper cowl panel thus trapping the guns but still giving some room for movement, the I glued the rear sections and frame rail in position on the guns, checking everything was true and then finally a drop of glue fixed the guns to the cowl.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: RAGIII on April 13, 2014, 11:03:26 AM
The Spandaus and Panel look great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: DC87 on April 14, 2014, 12:52:14 AM
Lovely work, turning into a stunning model.
Title: Re: WNW Fokker Eindekker
Post by: lcarroll on April 14, 2014, 02:13:49 AM
Stickman,
   Got to say the cowling/gun assembly is magnificently detailed. The bullets look real and your cockpit is beautifully done, clean, and very real looking. I'd say this transition to modelling aircraft is perfectly seamless to you! Very nice work so far.
Cheers,
Lance