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Title: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2014, 12:26:20 AM
I have Looked at Drawings and Photos but I can't seem to come up with the answer to this question:

All of the Drawings show Double Flying wires. The Photos of both period aircraft and reproductions however, seem to show a single heavier gauge RAF wire or conversely wrapped wires. Could someone provide the answer?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: Eric Armstrong on February 23, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
WNW rigging instructions call for single flying wires.  Their input on the subject is worthy of respect.
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2014, 01:36:20 AM
Thanks Eric, I appreciate the answer and your time in researching!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: drdave on February 23, 2014, 02:19:31 AM
All photos show single wires in the datafile
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2014, 03:46:30 AM
All photos show single wires in the datafile

Agreed! The rigging instructions quoted above seem to clinch the issue. I asked the question because it "seems" to me that the wires are wider than the other wires in some photos. The drawings showed double wires thus My wondering if they were wrapped. Thanks for your in input,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: Eric Armstrong on February 23, 2014, 04:14:28 AM
I'm no aeronautical engineer, but I'll wager that the reason for single wires, as opposed to double wires, has something to do with the fact that the Snipe had double bay wings, whereas most other British scout aircraft had single bay wing configurations.
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 23, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
Hello all

I just happen to have in front of me J. M. Bruce's Datafile 54 on the Sopwith Dolphin, another two bay late war aircraft described by Ray Rimmell as a fighter.  The caption to photo 23, a beautiful clear close of the port forward fuselage and inner bay of C3786, says that " On the Dolphin the flying wires (streamline-section Rafwires) were single only..." Perhaps a pattern?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2014, 07:49:55 AM
Yes, seems to be a pattern. So here is the question, were there varying diameters of "Streamlined" RAF wire? Were the Landing wires always RAF wire also? Look at the Snipe photos and let me know if you see a diameter/shape difference like I do?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: uncletony on February 23, 2014, 08:45:53 AM
So here is the question, were there varying diameters of "Streamlined" RAF wire?


Definitely and they even have names ;) Three common ones IIRC... there is a thread somewhere in here regarding which wires go where... started by Dave in Dubai maybe??
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: Dave in Dubai on February 23, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Good memory Bo!

Also you can get a good overview of what goes where if you take a look at Kermit Weeks' "Kermiecam" on Youtube and do a search for the Sopwith Snipe.

It is in three parts and really lets you see how to operate and fly a Sopwith Snipe.
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
So here is the question, were there varying diameters of "Streamlined" RAF wire?


Definitely and they even have names ;) Three common ones IIRC... there is a thread somewhere in here regarding which wires go where... started by Dave in Dubai maybe??

Thanks Bo! In the end I will most likely chicken out on my model  and just use a heavier Monofilament  :-[
RAGIII

Good memory Bo!

Also you can get a good overview of what goes where if you take a look at Kermit Weeks' "Kermiecam" on Youtube and do a search for the Sopwith Snipe.

It is in three parts and really lets you see how to operate and fly a Sopwith Snipe.

Thanks Dave I will check out Kermits videos.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: Dave in Dubai on February 23, 2014, 11:57:38 PM
You are most welcome RAGIII,

Here is the link to the post which Bo alluded to previously,

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2678.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2678.0)

There is a factory drawing at the end of the thread.

Kermit's videos are great, his helmet cam lets us experience the pilot's view, something I can otherwise only dream about.

Best of luck with your Snipe build, have you settled on a paint markings scheme yet?

D i D
Title: Re: Snipe Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 02:50:50 AM
You are most welcome RAGIII,

Here is the link to the post which Bo alluded to previously,

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2678.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2678.0)

There is a factory drawing at the end of the thread.

Kermit's videos are great, his helmet cam lets us experience the pilot's view, something I can otherwise only dream about.

Best of luck with your Snipe build, have you settled on a paint markings scheme yet?

D i D

Dave, Thanks for the link to your thread, and yes I will be doing E8015 from the kit Markings. (43 sq.)
RAGIII