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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Brad Cancian on January 26, 2014, 06:32:31 PM

Title: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on January 26, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
Hi all,

Made a start today on the newly arrived Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2 (mid-type)... glad to be jumping back into a 1/48 scale kit, given I didn't build anything in this scale last year (or much of anything in any scale, to be honest....).  My aim is to build this kit straight out of the box; given the comprehensive content of this kit it should be a fun build. 

I thought I would start at the front end instead of the usual cockpit. The kit contains the options of having the engine cowls on or off, and as such the kit contains a lovely radial engine. The engine comprises of around 50 pieces, so it is a mini-kit in itself, with lots of the parts count being taken up with the various bits of tubing, wiring and push-rods. It goes together surprisingly well, though there are some solid and inconvenient pour stubs to deal with, and some very tight tolerance fits for the etched pieces.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal01_zps9a402aef.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal02_zpsad3c3cb5.jpg) 

And with the exhaust ring and radiator dry fitted:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal04_zpsdfb6741f.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal03_zps8c8e760e.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal05_zps08022a7d.jpg)

I'm not overly happy with the exhaust ring painting that I have done, but looking at photos a dark and dull colour that blends in with the forward cowl paint seems to be appropriate.
 
Next is onto the cockpit.  All feedback welcomed  :)

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on January 26, 2014, 06:48:49 PM
It's great to see one of these kits being build but it is even better to know that it is you Brad, who is building it. The engine looks spectacular, the detail appears to be uncompromised and your painting is superb, this build is going to be a real treat to watch.

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: IFF1418 on January 26, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
Hi Brad, the engine is absolutely stunning, and I'm looking forward to see your interior develop. Another great build in the making.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 26, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
A lovely start, Brad. Very convincing.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ernie on January 26, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
Beautifully done engine, Brad. I really like the colour & wear on the cowling.
 I'm looking forward to more updates. 

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: mgunns on January 27, 2014, 02:51:06 AM
Hello Brad:

Impressive work for a day!  I think the it all looks great!  The cowling weathering and wear looks the business and will certainly add interest to the front end.  Looking forward to seeing you work through this one.  Mark (Guitarlute) is working on the WNW kit so it will be fun to follow along these two builds.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: BLOWHARD on January 27, 2014, 04:37:00 AM
Beautiful work Brad!
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: coyotemagic on January 27, 2014, 06:12:00 AM
Excellent start, Brad!  Fantastic looking engine.  I've got this baby in my stash, so I'm really looking forward to this build.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on January 27, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
Super engine Brad - hard to believe that is in 1:48!
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on January 27, 2014, 09:04:24 AM
Brad,
Great work on the Engine and Cowl! Looks Terrific as always!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: PrzemoL on January 27, 2014, 09:20:10 PM
It is great to see you, Brad, back to the bench! A very fine start to this project! I will surely use your shots of the engine when I will start my WNW Salmson. Looking forward to see more.
As for the exhaust ring, I do not see anything wrong with it - looks just spot on!
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 28, 2014, 05:33:24 AM

Ditto to Prze's comments !

Ed
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 02, 2014, 01:24:48 PM
Thanks folks!

Been getting some of the more 'tiresome' things out of the way, for example, the guns.  I usually leave these things until last and they seem like a chore, so I thought I would get them out of the way early....

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal06_zps7c0b5cbe.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal07_zps6ecb58ff.jpg)

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ernie on February 02, 2014, 05:37:35 PM
Beautiful job of the machine guns, Brad.  Super workmanship!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: bobs_buckles on February 02, 2014, 07:09:05 PM
For a tiresome job, you do tiresome very well, Brad!
Looking good  ;)

VB
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: IFF1418 on February 02, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Very neatly done Brad, keep up the wonderful job!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 02, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
A great start Brad, that engine really looks great.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: xmald on February 03, 2014, 09:04:37 PM
Nice work on the engine and guns! They look extremely well. I will follow your under construction thread cause I just couldn` t resist and ordered one.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ernie on February 03, 2014, 10:01:52 PM
Wonderful work on the guns, Brad. Very well done!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Rob Hart on February 05, 2014, 11:30:37 PM
The guns and engine look fantastic! I treated myself to a couple of these kits for Christmas and I have not managed to open the box they came in yet.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: GAJouette on February 06, 2014, 07:02:27 AM
Awesome work there Brad.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on March 31, 2014, 07:46:41 PM
Very slow progress.  Cockpit is now done, again out of the box except for the turn buckle sleeves and the odd artistic decal here and there. The kit cockpit is quite comprehensive straight out of the box, and all fits snugly. I still have some control runs to do but i'll finish these when the whole assembly comes together.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal08_zpse6bac587.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal09_zpsfa5be7c6.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal10_zpsca934042.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal11_zps258d528d.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal12_zps16a1e1e9.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal13_zps3463eb79.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal14_zps5989546e.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal15_zpsb716dbc6.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal16_zps4a93a430.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal17_zpsf934136e.jpg)

Thanks for looking!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 31, 2014, 07:55:59 PM
You say slow progress Brad, but your updates are really worth waiting for. The kit itself is a great product and you are doing a super job on it.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: IFF1418 on March 31, 2014, 08:05:31 PM
Hi Brad,

What a terrific update! The interior is simply magnificent. Wonderful wood painting, control panel, bracing and seat. You are up to a wonderful build. Keep on the great job my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: PrzemoL on March 31, 2014, 09:20:49 PM
Great modelling. Typical Brad, I would say  :)  And I would have to add, that I was sure it would be a masterpiece, as usual!
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 31, 2014, 10:16:26 PM
Superb modelling, Brad!
Now run that on a loop so I can have a rest from saying it! lol  ;D

Vb
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: mgunns on April 01, 2014, 12:10:23 AM
Hello Brad:

Excellent work on the interior.  I like your use of oils and highlighting on the cabane struts; very effective and eye catching.  Your work will be referenced when I tackle the WNW kit. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: coyotemagic on April 01, 2014, 03:22:32 AM
As always, extraordinary work, Brad!  The innards are brilliant.  I'm looking forward to the next update, no matter how long it takes.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on April 01, 2014, 06:28:50 PM
Excellent update Brad, the interior looks great and you have done a marvelous job with the wood colours, it appears to be a very comprehensive kit.

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 02, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
gorgeous brad
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Dal Gavan on April 04, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
Lovely work, as always, Brad.  Any chance of you getting down to ScaleACT this year?  I know Phil and the boys would be chuffed if they could get some of your models on display for the Great War theme.

Dal.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on April 04, 2014, 10:01:01 PM
Outstanding work on your interior! Up to your usual standards!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Epeeman on April 04, 2014, 10:22:43 PM
As others have already said -

Stunning interior!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: lcarroll on April 04, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
    Just sheer pleasure to follow your progress Brad, outstanding work as always. Your wood work is as good as it gets!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 05, 2014, 08:05:55 PM
Thanks folks!  :)

Dal - probably won't get any models down to the ACT show, it's a bit of a hike from Brisbane! Might try and find an excuse to head down the weekend of the show though...  ;D

I now have the fuselage closed up. 

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal18_zps21785bb9.jpg)

The interior is a tight squeeze - the easiest way I found in the end was to glue the two fuselage halves together first to minimise the gaps for clean up, then slot the centre part in afterwards.  This was also tricky as the struts need to slot into the correct position without snagging on any of the wires or other interior components. The camera extends past the back end of the floor piece, and the whole lot needs to slide backwards once it's roughly in place (if I build this model again I will add the camera in after the fuselage sides and floor is in).  It took me a few goes and a few broken bits of rigging later to get it into the correct place.  The mating edges of the centre floor piece to the fuselage sides is angled to a knife edge right at the bottom edge of the fuselage, which means you need to use glue sparingly. It's also tricky to get the floor flush with the fuselage sides and underside, so I found a little filler was needed here (though not too much).  The upper decking "shelf" in the cockpit also needs to slide around the struts and the forward cockpit components. It was also a tight squeeze so I needed to do some trimming here and there to get the shelf to sit flush.  Likewise the upper fuselage parts needed to slide around the struts, and took some persuasion to get in the right spot and a little filler here and there, but again nothing too dramatic.

Next is the wings.  This is a simple butt-joint with a small tab which I don't think will hold up too well.  I might try and pin the wings but the join is right on that knife-edge I spoke of earlier so I am worried I might split open the join or dislodge cockpit components if I try this....   :-\   One nice touch though is that there's a wing alignment jig supplied.

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on April 05, 2014, 08:55:38 PM
Your Salmson build is moving along quite nicely Brad but it does sound as though you had a few tense moments fitting the internals, I'm glad it all worked out well for you, looking forward to seeing what she looks like with some wings on.

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 01, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
Very, very, very slow going.... have some paint on her now.  I went with the OOB markings for the USAS 1st Aero Squadron.  Kit decals were very nice, but were difficult to move when I tried to position them.  If you're going to use the kit decals, float them onto the model with plenty of water.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal20_zpsc4bbe4c0.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal21_zps8c2ae060.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal22_zpsd4c0eb86.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal23_zps72ed4906.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal24_zps4d70f37b.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal25_zpsa8772e7f.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal26_zps66d6951e.jpg)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on June 01, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
Looking absolutely superb Brad and your painting is faultless, this is shaping up to be a real stunner.

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: radio on June 01, 2014, 08:02:11 PM
It is a great work and painting.
Martin
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on June 01, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Stunning paintwork as always Brad!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 01, 2014, 10:51:41 PM
Always a pleasure to see your progress, Brad!
Superb!!

VB  ;)
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: uncletony on June 01, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 02, 2014, 12:01:24 AM
What beautiful work so far, Brad. I've got this model in the stash and when I get round to it, I can only hope that it turns out half as good as yours.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: coyotemagic on June 02, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
Stunning paint work, Brad!  Almost done, mate!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: jknaus on June 02, 2014, 08:01:51 PM
Absolutely fantastic. Beutiful paint work and very realistic wethering and shading. Just WOW on everything.
JAmes
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ssasho0 on June 02, 2014, 08:53:03 PM
looking most excellent, keep the updates flowing!

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Alexis on June 06, 2014, 09:30:13 AM
Flawless modeling Brad  :)






Terri
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 07, 2014, 02:34:50 PM
Thanks folks, you are too kind!  :)

This morning I have been working on the laborious task of preparing the wing struts.  I used clear decal paper painted silver and cut into strips for the reinforcing straps on the struts.  Much easier than painting by hand...!

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal27_zps10760c2b.jpg)

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Ernie on June 07, 2014, 07:50:19 PM
Beautiful paintwork, Brad.  Good idea for the strut reinforcing strips.
All together a fantastic build.  I look forward to the next updates.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: radio on June 07, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
Exellent paint Brad.
Martin
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
Brad,
Outstanding work on your struts!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 08, 2014, 08:27:02 AM
Now the most daunting bit of the build is over - the top wing is on. 

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal28_zps7f282b42.jpg)

I always dread this stage of the build, especially with multi-bay aircraft like the Salmson (that top wing is heavy in 1/48!) as it has the potential to go very bad very fast.  I started by rigging the main wing cellules before I glued the top wing on, and enlargening the strut holes in the upper wing before I glued it on. I started by gluing the cabane struts then worked my way out and had minimal problems.  This kit is well engineered - sigh of relief :)

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: vincentm on June 08, 2014, 08:37:36 AM
Really beautiful job. I love the painting and the shading on the upper wing. For the strut straps, you could also use stripes of adhesive aluminum foil.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2014, 01:11:51 PM
Excellent results Brad! Lovely rigging!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: coyotemagic on June 08, 2014, 02:10:42 PM
Inspirational work, Brad!  Thank you for taking point on this one.  With each update, I'm learning more on how to tackle this one myself.  The colors are perfect.  What paints did you use for the 5 color camo?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 08, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
gorgeous as usual brad.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: radio on June 08, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
A very good work Brad.
Martin
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 08, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
Hi Bud - colours were all mixed from Gunze acrylics, roughly as follows:

Underside - 80% H85 Sail Colour, 10% H413 Yellow, 10% H11 White
Beige - 80% H85 Sail Colour, 20% H71 Middle Stone
L/Green - 80% H312 Green FS34227, 10% H73 Dark Green, 10% H85 Sail Colour
D/Green - 100% H73 Dark Green
Brown - 100% H84 Mahogany
Black - 85% Black, 15% H85 Sail Colour

The model is getting pretty close to being done, fingers crossed she'll be cooked tomorrow....  :o

BC

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Alexis on June 08, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
Coming along verrrrry well Brad  :)







Terri
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on June 08, 2014, 10:37:03 PM
The Salmsom is looking superb Brad, the rigging is excellent. Thank you for the paint mix ratios, this will certainly help a lot of guys.

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 09, 2014, 11:36:58 AM
She be done!   ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/bradcancian/Salmson%202A2/Sal33_zpsa133c871.jpg)

See post here:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3581.0

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Des on June 09, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
In a word - BRILLIANT

Des.
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: coyotemagic on June 09, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
Congratulations, Brad!  She's a stunner!  Heading over to check out the rest of the photos.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: andonio64 on June 09, 2014, 03:36:37 PM
Fantastic, I love everything in your work, but the way to render the transparency of the fabric on the underside of the wings left me breathless!
Congratulations also to Gaspatch models whose kit appears to be awesome!

Antonio
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: RAGIII on June 09, 2014, 08:52:34 PM
Congratulations, Brad!  She's a stunner!  Heading over to check out the rest of the photos.
Cheers,
Bud

Same here Brad!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - Gaspatch Models 1/48 Salmson 2A2
Post by: Jim Root on June 11, 2014, 07:52:51 AM
Stunning work Brad! I love it!
Jim Root