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Modelers Lounge => Time to relax => Topic started by: Tony Haycock on January 04, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
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I go out and buy this... a partially restored 1927 Renault KZ2
What was I thinking?
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/20140104_125725_resized_zpsc3a05c9d.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/20140104_125725_resized_zpsc3a05c9d.jpg.html)
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/20140104_130929_resized_zps4d0213a9.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/20140104_130929_resized_zps4d0213a9.jpg.html)
i think I have a problem...
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i think I have a problem...
I think so too. The headlight bulbs are gone. :)
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i think I have a problem...
I think so too. The headlight bulbs are gone. :)
My god! I have been ripped off!
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I think you are doing what we all wish we could. I'd settle for finding a vacuum unit for my 2.8 Capri!
the main thing to remember is there is a good reason our fathers/grandfathers/whatever threw this old crap away and bought a new one... they were no good! Then we go and get something well past it's use-by date and wonder why we can't find bits for it.
Mind, you, I am surprised what actually is out there for this. Nothing like what I can get for my 1970 Peugeot 404 (which is pretty much everything) but not bad for a car approaching 90 years old, and that is only after a day of research!
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Mine arrived without headlight bulbs, either. :o
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/1ce821338cb083a92dbd1903cf513099_zpsf0f95f44.jpg)
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Mine arrived without headlight bulbs, either. :o
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/1ce821338cb083a92dbd1903cf513099_zpsf0f95f44.jpg)
Wheels are a slightly out of scale as well. ;D
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Mine arrived without headlight bulbs, either. :o
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/1ce821338cb083a92dbd1903cf513099_zpsf0f95f44.jpg)
That is going to be one beautiful car! Alfas from that era are great. I look forward to seeing it finished.
Cheers
Tony
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Thanks Tony, I like your Renault, too. Looks like a great project. How does the cooling system work with the coffin nose? I know this is a typical Renault trait but I am ignorant of the mechanical details ... is it air cooled? And what sort of coachwork goes on the back?
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Thanks Tony, I like your Renault, too. Looks like a great project. How does the cooling system work with the coffin nose? I know this is a typical Renault trait but I am ignorant of the mechanical details ... is it air cooled? And what sort of coachwork goes on the back?
The radiator is behind the engine. The flywheel has vanes cast into it which suck in air through the "gills" on either side in the panel behind the bonnet. The radiator has a single large top tank and a core on either side. No waterpump, it thermo-syphons to circulate the water. Apparently it works well, I guess I will find out.
As no-one knows what body it wore originally, I will put either a camionette (light truck) or Boulangerie (van) body on it.
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Very cool. Looking forward to watching this progress Tony.
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There has been more progress in the garage than on any models lately, which is stupid really, it is still bloody cold out there and nice and warm in the house...
The Renault engine is almost ready to run. The manifold is now on, carb. linkages all made and working. Full exhaust system made up and fitted. My brother has converted the magneto to work as a distributor, which I will collect in the next couple of weeks when I am back in the North Island. Once that is fitted I can time the ignition and then it is time to see if it goes.
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/20140907_163433_resized_zps43e9d134.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/20140907_163433_resized_zps43e9d134.jpg.html)
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very neat, i saw a plastic modlel of this car for sale last week.
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Looks cool, more pictures please :)
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Such a cool project, Tony! I'm so beyond envious. And you've got an original engine for her. Amazing.
Cheers,
Bud
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Two beautiful looking cars there.
Good luck guys, I struggle to change a tyre!
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Work continues... now the ignition system...
My KZ2 uses a RB magneto for ignition. I have seen too many vintage cars stopped on the side of the road with magneto failure, even after the owners have spent hundreds of dollars getting them reconditioned. And there is a very good reason why aircraft engines run two mag.s!
I like having my cars 100% authentic but they need to be reliable as well. My brother is restoring a 1914 Fiat Tipo Zero and he also wants the car to be correct but trouble free, so we have been thinking how to keep the right look but make them better.
A magneto is really just a distributor which makes it's own HT spark. Could we find a way to feed spark in to the distributor part of the magneto from a coil hidden out of sight somewhere?
Here are two magnetos. the one on the left is the one which will go in the car, the one on the right is the spare. Note the brass fitting on top of the locator peg on the magneto i am going to use
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/Mag1_zps0b89b5e9.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/Mag1_zps0b89b5e9.jpg.html)
This is the magneto I am using. The magnets have been removed and replaced with a steel cover so it no longer generates any spark, but the armature has been kept to provide the inertia and drag for the automatic advance to work correctly
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/Mag2_zpsfe331c2f.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/Mag2_zpsfe331c2f.jpg.html)
The top peg is the original. The bottom one is the new one my brother has made with the fitting for the coil lead to feed the spark to the distributor part of the mag.
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kiwipugfan/Mag3_zpsd998dcfb.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/kiwipugfan/media/Mag3_zpsd998dcfb.jpg.html)
It works perfectly on the bench, firing four spark plugs in a dummy cylinder head so we are confident it will work on the car. I will let you know when the motor is running!
Of course the other issue this creates is the ignition switch itself. With magneto ignition, when the key is turned to the "off" position it completes the circuit and shorts out the mag. With coil ignition, we need to break the circuit to stop the flow of current to the distributor. And of course the combined light/ignition switch has been rebuilt alreadya nd I really don't want to risk pulling it apart and trying to modify it. Something else for me to ponder, I guess.