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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: LindsayT on December 30, 2013, 01:36:04 PM
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Finished! I've spent about nine months on this build and it's finally done. I'm posting to give heart to all those that are reluctant to share their work here. If I can muster up the courage to post this guy, warts and all, then so can you.
This was very much a therapy build. It was what let me completely escape from whatever happened to be the stress du jour. I really enjoyed building it, and it turns out that Wingnut kits are everything they're cracked up to be. Very enjoyable.
So I'm posting to show that things do actually occur on my bench, albeit at a glacial pace. Things I've learned include trusting the WnW directions, try new things, and take risks. I know there's a lot of glaring issues with the build, notwithstanding the inaccuracies (that I don't care about), but I'm proud nonetheless. However, I'm always open to constructive criticism. It's the only way I'm going to improve.
Without further delay, I give you, Betty. Thanks for looking.
Lindsay
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/DSC_0567_zps4beb74ee.jpg) (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/lkt939/media/DSC_0567_zps4beb74ee.jpg.html)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/DSC_0568_zps9102d971.jpg) (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/lkt939/media/DSC_0568_zps9102d971.jpg.html)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/DSC_0571_zps10ab9315.jpg) (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/lkt939/media/DSC_0571_zps10ab9315.jpg.html)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/DSC_0574_zpsd8b83cb6.jpg) (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/lkt939/media/DSC_0574_zpsd8b83cb6.jpg.html)
(http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w451/lkt939/DSC_0576_zps7bbd7b37.jpg) (http://s1076.photobucket.com/user/lkt939/media/DSC_0576_zps7bbd7b37.jpg.html)
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Lindsay,
I don't see any warts! This is a nice looking Pup! I think you are underestimating your work! Your post and Marks cover the 2 aircraft I have been thinking seriously about. Now which way to go.....
RAGIII
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She looks great and is light Yeats ahead of my skills!
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Outstanding job on one of my favorite aircraft in my favorite scheme! Not a single wart in sight, either. Congratulations, Lindsay. You can really be proud of this beauty.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi - looks wonderful to me as well.
I'm just about at the point of rigging a 'betty' as well (not as nice as yours, but a good learning experience as mine nearly ended in the bin a couple of times), but I'm struggling a bit with the issue of turnbuckles..... I have a stash of Bob's buckles, but I can't tell from the photos/reference materials (which seem to be especially low resolution quality for pups) whether there were buckles on both the upper and lower wings... (and I note someone on this forum, sorry forgotten who, suggested that no turnbuckles were used, although some of the photos I have suggest otherwise). I can't get a close look at your photos as my work computer doesn't like the link, but how did you approach this...?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
FF
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Hello Liindsay. You have every right to feel pround about 'Betty'. Whether or not you feel it was glacial in terms of time scale, it stands as a fine piece of work.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Looks pretty darn fab' to me, I would suggest that you have done a remarkable job. In fact the Pup is my next intended build, and loaded into the breech as we speak: story short! If mine turns out as good as this I'll be one thrilled little modeller.
Well done.
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Lindsay I totally agree with all the others. I can't see what could be wrong with your build. It is so well done and you underestimate yourself quite a lot! Congratulations it is wonderfull!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Lovely build
You might try photographing against a roll of wall paper lining roll, it forms a curve without creases and back lights your model beautifully
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Lindsay,
Well done!
After nine months of model bench gestation a fine looking, bonny, well made, nicely painted Pup has popped out ;)
Congrats!
VB
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Gorgeous Pup, Lindsay! ;D I'll be doing ths scheme in memory of my mother, another "Betty." I hope mine turns out as well as your's. :D I particularly like how you've rendered the wing shading, cowling and landing gear. Looks great! Keep up the very fine work. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Terrific Pup, Lindsay! Great job on the rigging and the paint work.I really
like that scheme and in time hope to come up with one along those lines.
I doubt very much that I will be able to come close to the excellence of your model.
Well done, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Lindsay,
That camera of yours must have some magic qualities, there are no "warts" to be seen! Your shading and subtle "wear" are very nicely done....I think She's a real beauty!
Well done, and what's next on the plate?
Cheers,
Lance
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Hello Lindsay:
I think you have an outstanding model there. I can't see any warts and it looks like a well executed bit of modeling to me. You have done some weathering, some shading, some chipping and it all looks good.
Best
Mark
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I can't thank you all enough for the kind words and encouragement. It means the world to me. Thank you very much for taking the time.
We all know that selective photography and photo selection can do wonders for how a model is presented. I can assure you, the flaws are there. The important thing is that I've gotten much better since the last model by applying all the knowledge found here. Contrast this Pup with my Nieuport that I did for the Old Kit group build; this is light years ahead, and it's only because of the generous support and mentorship found on this forum.
Again, a thousand thanks. I'm overwhelmed.
Lindsay
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I really like the painting. Good job.
Congratulations !
Jacek
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Hi - looks wonderful to me as well.
I'm just about at the point of rigging a 'betty' as well (not as nice as yours, but a good learning experience as mine nearly ended in the bin a couple of times), but I'm struggling a bit with the issue of turnbuckles..... I have a stash of Bob's buckles, but I can't tell from the photos/reference materials (which seem to be especially low resolution quality for pups) whether there were buckles on both the upper and lower wings... (and I note someone on this forum, sorry forgotten who, suggested that no turnbuckles were used, although some of the photos I have suggest otherwise). I can't get a close look at your photos as my work computer doesn't like the link, but how did you approach this...?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
FF
FF,
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to be much use to you. If you take a close look you'll see that I punted on the turnbuckles and just didn't represent them. I tried knit-in elastic this time instead of the monofilament. The elastic rigging looks beautifully taught, and can handle the occasional man-handle from a three year old, but I think it lacks a certain something without the turnbuckles.
My only advice would be to check Des' build on his main site, and ask questions of the forum at large. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.
LT
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Lovely build
You might try photographing against a roll of wall paper lining roll, it forms a curve without creases and back lights your model beautifully
Good point, Dave. Thanks for bringing it up. I'll try that next time.
LT
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Well done, and what's next on the plate?
Thanks for looking in, Lance. It means a lot. I don't know what's next for a build. I'm staring down the barrel of a house move, so I would imagine that nothing will get done until I can set up shop at the new place. In the meantime I'll keep working vicariously at your bench!
LT
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Hi - looks wonderful to me as well.
I'm just about at the point of rigging a 'betty' as well (not as nice as yours, but a good learning experience as mine nearly ended in the bin a couple of times), but I'm struggling a bit with the issue of turnbuckles..... I have a stash of Bob's buckles, but I can't tell from the photos/reference materials (which seem to be especially low resolution quality for pups) whether there were buckles on both the upper and lower wings... (and I note someone on this forum, sorry forgotten who, suggested that no turnbuckles were used, although some of the photos I have suggest otherwise). I can't get a close look at your photos as my work computer doesn't like the link, but how did you approach this...?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
FF
FF,
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to be much use to you. If you take a close look you'll see that I punted on the turnbuckles and just didn't represent them. I tried knit-in elastic this time instead of the monofilament. The elastic rigging looks beautifully taught, and can handle the occasional man-handle from a three year old, but I think it lacks a certain something without the turnbuckles.
My only advice would be to check Des' build on his main site, and ask questions of the forum at large. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.
LT
Hello FF:
Sometimes we have to make concessions as we are building a model and due to the restraints of model building we do what is expedient. I have used Bob's Buckles eyelets and tubes exclusively. When I use EZ line I will sometimes wrap the line around itself coming out of the loop, securing it with Superglue and cutting off the end. It is a satisfactory result and affect. If I am using invisible thread, a monofiliment like sustance, for strength I use turnbuckles at both ends for strength and alignment. There are those that would be critical, but as modelers we strive for accuracy and assembly expedience as well. This is just my opinion and I hope this offers some help. Remember, this is a hobby and it is supposed to be fun.
Best
Mark
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Well done, and what's next on the plate?
Thanks for looking in, Lance. It means a lot. I don't know what's next for a build. I'm staring down the barrel of a house move, so I would imagine that nothing will get done until I can set up shop at the new place. In the meantime I'll keep working vicariously at your bench!
LT
Lindsay,
Given the fine balmy weather this is a perfect time to move to a new house! My last two moves have been in the Jan/Feb timeframe and there's just no experience like it................?!? :o Hope all goes well and your new "digs" are set up in record time.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lindsay, I can only echo Lance's thoughts re winter moves. Hope all goes well and
you are snug & warm in your new home as soon as possible. Remember,
don't freeze the fingers...you need them for your modelling. ;) ;D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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This one looks like a very decent Pup. No need to feel shy to show it. Just one remark, a plain sheet of pale-coloured paper would do it better for the photos!
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Nice job, Lindsay. A very fine looking Pup.
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This one looks like a very decent Pup. No need to feel shy to show it. Just one remark, a plain sheet of pale-coloured paper would do it better for the photos!
Good point, Przem. I'll give that a try.
Nice job, Lindsay. A very fine looking Pup.
Thanks, Bo. I appreciate you looking in.
LT
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Thanks for the suggestions on the turnbuckles - I've also had a look at Des's build log and its a big help.
cheers
FF
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Sorry to come in late but I have just returned to home after being away for a few days. Can I be cheeky and ask where the warts are? Believe me Lindsay I would be very proud of that build - and I really cannot see any warts no matter how hard I look. I do not think it has anything to do with your photographic skills - I think as the others do that you have produced a first class model. Very many congratulations - do show us more in future please.
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Many thanks for kind word, lone. It's because of feedback like this that I definitely will post in the future. It's actually kind of fun showing something you're proud of! Why don't you pencil in December 2014 for when I show off my next build? ;)
LT
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It is an excellent model. The finish is particularly well done.
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... I have a stash of Bob's buckles, but I can't tell from the photos/reference materials (which seem to be especially low resolution quality for pups) whether there were buckles on both the upper and lower wings... (and I note someone on this forum, sorry forgotten who, suggested that no turnbuckles were used, although some of the photos I have suggest otherwise). I can't get a close look at your photos as my work computer doesn't like the link, but how did you approach this...?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
FF
FF - I've taken a number of photos from my recent trip to the UK and will post these soon...hopefully I have taken some shots of the rigging that may help you decide which way to go with the turnbuckles.
Jim
BTW: Lovely model Lindsay - I completed a Sopwith Pup from the WNW RNAS kit in the 'Anzac' configuration some time ago but, just like the real thing, it was 'shot down' from its perch and broke into a number of pieces! :-( I decided not to salvage it as I made some mistakes with the rigging (used to much glue on the cowling and melted the double flying wires out of their anchor points!)
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Rob and Jim, thanks very much for checking. Sorry to hear about your Pup, Jim. Do you think you'll do another to replace it? Forewarned is forearmed, right?
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Can I be cheeky and ask where the warts are?
Not cheeky in the slightest. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Where do we start?
- silvering on both "Betty" decals (kind of important)
- wrong colour on the bottom of the fuselage
- massive seam on the underside that I couldn't get rid of
- smaller but much more noticeable seam at the base of the tailcone that couldn't get rid of
- wrong gun for that scheme
- couldn't get the double flying wires tight under the bottom wings
- the rigging through the control horns looks like my dog did it
- I'm sure I'll think of more
I hope it doesn't seem like I'm just fishing for compliments, because I'm not. Like I said, I'm posting mostly to show others that are anxious about posting their own "substandard work" (real or perceived) that they can take heart because all works are received on this forum with equal enthusiasm and encouragement. Secondly so that I can get some feedback. I think in order to do that I should have posted a build log or more revealing photos. That's for another day, though. ;)
Once again, thanks to all that have looked in and commented. It means the world to me.
Lindsay
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Late to the dance here but thats a fine Pup you have!!
Steve
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Thanks, Steve. I hope you made it througthe storm okay.
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Hi Lindsay - I already have the WNW RFC kit of the Pup in my stash :-)... I would like to build this model in the livery of No. 7309 as flown by Sir Gordon Taylor, given his significance in early Australian aviation, though may need to print my own decals for this.
Jim
BTW: I have just ordered a book written by Taylor entitled "Sopwith Scout 7309" which I am looking forward to reading after I finish "No Parachute".
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I bet you can still fix the Betty silvering, either with Micro Sol / Micro Set or with (gasp) Lacquer Thinner. I'd start with a needle and Micro Sol, applied sparingly with a good paint brush. if that doesnt work, google around and you will find techniques for fixing silvering on finished models using LT. Easy does it;)
Cheers
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Hi Lindsay,
You know if I was to make such a list, it would be twice as long as yours. But what you said about the forum is very true. There is as much appreciation and encouragement for poor modelers like me as for these masters who produce such wonderful builds. I still like your Pup very much!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Lindsay,
You know if I was to make such a list, it would be twice as long as yours. But what you said about the forum is very true. There is as much appreciation and encouragement for poor modelers like me as for these masters who produce such wonderful builds. I still like your Pup very much!
Kind regards
Patrick
Lindsay, I'm in about the same mind as my friend Patrick. Your "warty" Pup is better than
my best...at least until my Acme instant talent package arrives in the post. ;) ;D
Seriously, it's models like yours that inspire me to try to be a better modeller.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I bet you can still fix the Betty silvering, either with Micro Sol / Micro Set or with (gasp) Lacquer Thinner. I'd start with a needle and Micro Sol, applied sparingly with a good paint brush. if that doesnt work, google around and you will find techniques for fixing silvering on finished models using LT. Easy does it;)
Cheers
Thanks Bo. I Micro Sol'd the hell out of them, at least I thought I did, to no avail. But lacquer thinner? :o You do like to live dangerously! "Tell me, Mr. Bo(nd), do you still still sleep with a gun under your pillow?"
Thanks for the tip.
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Patrick and Ernie, you're too kind, and it's undeserved, but I'll just end with a sincere "thank you".
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Thanks Bo. I Micro Sol'd the hell out of them, at least I thought I did, to no avail. But lacquer thinner? :o You do like to live dangerously! "Tell me, Mr. Bo(nd), do you still still sleep with a gun under your pillow?"
Thanks for the tip.
I didn't make this up. Link. (http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/10/stuff_eng_benshahar_bf110.htm)
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Hi Lindsay.
I'm glad that you're proud and had fun with your model. It sure is beauty. I like the overall looking alot, and the "warty" model turned out to be a very fine Pup. Congrats for it.
Cheers
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Thanks Zabu. :)
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I must say that I really like your Pup Lindsay! I hope to see your next model soon!
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Sorry Lindsay for being a little slow to respond to this but your Pup looks excellent, you have done a brilliant job with the rigging and the overall finish looks really good, well done and I look forward to your next build.
Des.
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Filip and Des, thank you very much. Nice to have you stop by. Much appreciated. :)
Lindsay