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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: ta152c on April 17, 2012, 11:48:03 PM

Title: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 17, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
Work in progress pic.

(http://a.yfrog.com/img875/6276/fjvcj.jpg)

One will be a ser.253, the other a late ser.53/early ser.153.

There you go :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on April 18, 2012, 06:43:38 AM
Excellent frame work, David. 
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: GAJouette on April 18, 2012, 07:17:24 AM
  Hey David they're looking great my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 18, 2012, 07:37:05 AM
Thanks!

I'm glad I started them, and hope they turn out well. Still, progress is progress . . .

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 19, 2012, 10:30:52 PM
(http://a.yfrog.com/img876/5487/msnct.jpg)

(http://a.yfrog.com/img614/8499/57378712.jpg)

Hello.

Managed to get another Eduard cowling, so you can see what a difference it makes. In the first pic, 253 in front, 53/153 behind. Also you can see the little open-backed seat, need to make another now.

There you go :)

P.S. Now that I've added the Eduard cowlings, does it still remain a 'Glencoe' build?
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Trackpad on April 20, 2012, 03:19:15 AM

Hello.
Managed to get another Eduard cowling, so you can see what a difference it makes. In the first pic, 253 in front, 53/153 behind. Also you can see the little open-backed seat, need to make another now.
There you go :)
P.S. Now that I've added the Eduard cowlings, does it still remain a 'Glencoe' build?

Maybe a "Gleduard" build? Or how 'bout an "Edcoe" build??  ;D (Hope this helps a smidge!)

 First rate work, whatever you decide to call it!
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 20, 2012, 03:29:21 AM
Lol @ "Gleduard" :)

I like that, thanks. Have a cold, so no modelling today, alas. Will get back on the kits in 24hrs.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: GAJouette on April 20, 2012, 03:35:23 AM
  David,
I believe you're converting a couple of plain jane kits into First Class Gems my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 20, 2012, 03:43:29 AM
The Eduard cowlings really mate well with the Glencoe kit, there is a real sense of 'cohesion' and the appearance of the fuselage is much improved. In the picture you can see an Eduard tail elevator, which will add a nice look to the model once deflected.

I'll use the Glencoe tailplane though, once the rib tapes go on it should match well :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on April 21, 2012, 03:08:36 AM
I remember seeing the master for the Glencoe Albatross. Bill Brown of Toronto made it. We were all very excited with the possibilites...then the kit came out. You are doing a great job of bringing it back to life.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 03:24:45 AM
Some pics. I've cut out the centre of one wing to better show the radiator housing, cut the ailerons off (which have nice washout). Also cleaned up the pilot and groundcrewman, even added the buttons to his jacket. Might need to change his hat though, he's German. Or use elsewhere.

I like the kit, and would happily build another :)

(http://a.yfrog.com/img878/740/cvetu.jpg)

(http://a.yfrog.com/img876/9417/we2fa.jpg)

(http://a.yfrog.com/img878/2578/14glb.jpg)

(http://a.yfrog.com/img875/508/h8yxpc.jpg)

There you go :)

Any pics of the master kit about? Love to see them.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on April 21, 2012, 03:26:59 AM
Hmm. That was 20+yrs ago and Im not sure if Bill took any
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 03:29:03 AM
If you know him, say thanks, I haven't enjoyed a kit so much in years :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
Outstanding work on this one. Keep the pics coming please!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 08:53:31 AM
More tomorrow, hopefully :)

Any news on your D.II? PM me if you can.

Regards :)

Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on April 21, 2012, 09:39:54 AM
Very fine work on the wings, David.  You've got a pair of real beauties in the making.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 09:46:38 AM
I certainly hope so, need to crack on now my cold has lifted. Should get the interiors finished tomorrow and primed. Might also prime both of the figures, a bit of work on them is still needed. I do like then though.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Flyjunkie on April 21, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
Thanks for the show David.. ;D

 I have the Glencoe Austro/Hungarian Albatros 1/48 model..

I actually have taken it out and got back to cleaning up the fuselage sections and such.. will paint it and assemble it soon enough.. Thanks to the inspiration from your great progress... ;)

looking forward to your progress and finishing of these two... also nice that you are over your head cold...

Take care & Thank you,

DEAN ~~~~ 8)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
Excellent, will you put some pictures up?

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Flyjunkie on April 21, 2012, 11:12:10 AM
Excellent, will you put some pictures up?

Regards :)

Sure, let me get some taken and I'll post them...  ;D
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on April 21, 2012, 11:51:03 AM
I see Bill on occasion so I will pass on your thanks. It will probably surprise him!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
That would be great, and I'll hope to have them finished as soon as possible. Is he going to come on to the forum?

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Pete Nottingham on April 21, 2012, 07:57:12 PM
Excellent work so far David, keep the progress pics coming.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 21, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
Will do. Got an Eduard 1:48 Fokker D.VII (MAG) through the post today, looks a nice kit. Maybe I should review it for here. Traded for a 1:72 Victor, which I had decided not to build.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Flyjunkie on April 23, 2012, 11:29:59 PM
Will do. Got an Eduard 1:48 Fokker D.VII (MAG) through the post today, looks a nice kit. Maybe I should review it for here. Traded for a 1:72 Victor, which I had decided not to build.

Regards :)

I'd enjoy seeing You build that one as well David.. a D.VII is of interest to me for a future build.

 I am waiting to see how these Glencoes progress, taking notes for my Albatros... ;D

Thanks,

DEAN ~~~ 8)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on April 25, 2012, 06:56:49 AM
Beautiful, just beautiful . . .

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: coyotemagic on April 25, 2012, 07:00:51 AM
What an excellent way to introduce yourself, Tony.  Absolutely breathtaking.  Thank you for posting.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Whiteknuckles on April 25, 2012, 02:30:24 PM
Great video Tony ;D thanks!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: GAJouette on May 09, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
  David ,
How's this little gem progressing my friend?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on May 10, 2012, 02:43:41 AM
Slowly, waiting on a few bits and bobs so I can get the fuselage ready for priming. I've been busy with unrelated stuff, but there will be some pics in the next few days.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on May 10, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
...the tension mounts.....looking forward to the updates. Dont you hate it when the real world gets in the way?

Steve
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on May 10, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
How selfish of life to get in the way, lol

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 13, 2012, 07:11:47 PM
Some progress, Eduard tailfin on the ser.153, interiors painted, pilot figure too.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02506-20120711-1217.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02507-20120711-1314.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02509-20120711-1946.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02520-20120712-2025.jpg)

On the right is the Aviatik D.I, all paint used was acrylic. I also began painting the figures that Gregory kindly sent me. They are quite nice,
some flash, but see what you think. Once again, acrylics. You can see my palette in the background.

In general, there is a lot of gap-filling to be done, but the Eduard additions do enhance the shapes. The seat you can see still needs support rods fitted (just put it there to let it be seen), cockpit needs more detail, guns (153), instrument panels, control columns.

Sadly, not much will be seen if the pilot figure goes in, in fact, once assembled you won't see much in the Aviatik either :(

Once its done, should be faster progress.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02522-20120712-2045.jpg)

Not the best pictures, but you get the idea.

There you go :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on July 13, 2012, 09:59:28 PM
Great return post!!!! The figures look very nice and the interiors are rounding out nicely.

Steve
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Fokker boy on July 14, 2012, 04:49:58 AM
This is shaping up rather nicely.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 14, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
Hello. More work, starting with ser.153 and showing the gun blast tubes on this version. Does look much better now.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02531-20120713-1946.jpg)

Crew figures, note the cheap acrylics :) These are the ones that came with the Glencoe kits, and are very good, with potential for converting arms etc. Colours on the uniforms are over-bright, but will get toned down with washes. Looks as if the Austrian figure at the rear is giving a Nazi salute, not intentional.
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02532-20120713-2026.jpg)

Workshop, the SVA.5 is just basic interior and scribed louvres and engine covers. Lots to do still.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02539-20120713-2204.jpg)

I'm going to use the Glencoe guns for the ser.153, as you can't see anything except the padded butts (lol) when the cowling is on. I'll replace the blast tubes with suitable tubing. After a bit of work with files and a few additions from plastic strip, the Glencoe guns look quite good. Not Eduard standard, but decent enough. Gave them a coat of gunmetal and a black wash, will drybrush tomorrow. Still unsure if I should use the pilot figures, they'll hide all the interior detail -won't fit in the seats either. The sharper-eyed amongst us may see the Morane interior in situ. Apologies for the dreadful photos as usual.

There you go :)



Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: pepperman42 on July 15, 2012, 03:15:54 AM
The factory is back up and running!!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 15, 2012, 09:20:05 AM
I am enjoying these kits, but, had I not had the Eduard parts it would have been more difficult. Still, getting there. More importantly, the basic shapes are good.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Fokker boy on July 15, 2012, 12:41:32 PM
The factory is back up and running!!!!!

Steve

No doubt, mass production.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: lcarroll on July 15, 2012, 12:47:06 PM
Great Thread to follow.....lots happening and all developments and results of top notch quality!
Cheers,
Lance :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 15, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
Thanks!

Still more to go though, will be posting soon. Still a vacform Phonix D.I and UFAG C.I to finish off too.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: GAJouette on July 15, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
  David,
Excellent progress my friend. Glad to see you've put the Glencoe figures to such good use.Looking forward to seeing more.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: Whiteknuckles on July 15, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
....Still more to go though, will be posting soon. Still a vacform Phonix D.I and UFAG C.I to finish off too....

Your a machine Dave!!

Andrew
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 15, 2012, 07:53:47 PM
A very slow machine. I've got to get these finished so I can move on to other stuff. Future kits will be a lot quicker!

I'n looking forward to doing the SVA.5, it has a lovely shape. It has just a basic interior, fuselage stringers and uprights. Lots of work to do on it.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: uncletony on July 15, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Agree with you on the SVA.5 -- really beautiful airplane.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: GAJouette on July 15, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
   David,
On your SVA-5 project,I'm not certain whether I passed along this link to you before or not but in case I didn't. I believe you'll find this interesting and helpful. I'm really looking forward to a SVA-5 thread as she's one of my Italian favorite.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

LINK:  http://www.stormomagazine.com/ModelArticles/Ansaldo/SVA5/DavideSplendore/SVA5_1a.html
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 15, 2012, 11:46:15 PM
Thanks Gregory!

I like what he's done with his SVA.5, but I've made some modifications. The lower wing, which has the lower fuselage centre portion, has had that removed, leaving the wings separate. Remainder of the floor was cut in half, inverted and re-attached, giving a more correct underside (with gaps to fill).

Removed the rudder, sanded away all the interior, rebuilt with rod and plastic card (just the framing so far, bulkheads next). On the fuselage, rescribed engine upper cowling panel (I've considered removing the panels and adding an engine!, but don't know if one could be bought or converted), removed exhausts etc.

On the actual aircraft, the wing struts attach not to the teardrop fairings, but just above them, so I've filled in the circular holes and will think of some way to attach the struts (wire pin etc). Other attachment points are ok, the upper wing centre can be strengthened. I did see another SVA.5 made where the fellow added bits on top of the main struts, which then snapped/failed as the centre-section is weak on the kit. I do need a scale drawing of the rudder and rear fuselage/tailplanes, under the tailplanes there is a metal strip reinforcement that needs added.

As regards armament, I have some Roden Vickers mg's which will look very good, just need to fabricate the very unusual blast tubes/flash hiders that were often fitted. Fuselage bomb racks are simple enough to make. Also, under the floor some SVA.5 were fitted with two doors for cameras, another possibility.

Radiator front -the prop attachment will be drilled out, and I'll fit a spare centre from a Roden DH.4 frontal radiator. Will improve the kit no end, as will the circular fuselage access panels. I'll deflect the ailerons though. Kit prop is the wrong shape, but I'll have a spare one of similar shape somewhere. Wheels need replaced, but I'll worry about them later.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 18, 2012, 09:29:57 AM
Progress report :

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02559-20120717-1627.jpg)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02561-20120717-2130.jpg)

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02560-20120717-2029.jpg)

There you go :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 19, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
I've been busy, have made both bulkheads/engine mounts for the ser.153/253 (which had to be raised) , added more to the SVA.5 (had to redo the bulkhead as it wasn't true in plan or elevation), and should get them primed and spray basecoated today. SVA.5 will have a richer coloured wood interior. Must remember to make the IP. Pic to follow.

There you go :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: uncletony on July 19, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
The factory approach appeals to me. I would think it would moderate my more neurotic perfectionist tendencies.
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 19, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
I wouldn't say I was a perfectionist, but I've done very little 1:48 before so its a good method of building. There are 7 kits on the go, 4 are vacforms.
These kits are just 'test-beds' in a way, although I will do my best with them before moving onto more recent kits.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02562-20120718-2147.jpg)

Been enjoyable, apart from some "****" moments that we all go through in this great hobby of ours. The Glencoe Albatros kits, with a few additions, are decent kits, if you get them cheap enough. Mind you, the Eduard ones are stunning. I probably won't build any more of the 'older kits' after these, although I'd still do a vac Hansa-Brandenburg C.I in 1:48, and I really fancy a Bristol Boxkite, could do one as used by the Russians. I think the PYRO kit is still available.

I wonder if I could make a camera fit for the SVA.5?

Anyway, back to work.

Regards :)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 26, 2012, 05:31:37 AM
Update time.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02587-20120725-1611.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02589-20120725-1627.jpg)
(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02592-20120725-1753.jpg)

Wings got a blast of Tamiya Fine Primer (great for showing up defects, gaps etc), so they were filled and sanded smooth (again). Rib tapes from 0.5mm masking tape using the JaPo book plans on the Oeffag Albatri to get the spacing right. Sprayed with primer again, then a coat of Future floor wax (gloss varnish really) to keep the rib tapes from lifting. I was going to scribe in the rib tapes, but I think this method looks better. However, any comments or criticism are welcomed warmly.

In the last pic you can see the bulkheads in the two Oeffags as well, so now they'll get airbrushed with a sand yellow colour and then washed like the rest of the interior. SVA.5 cockpit parts are there too, Aviatik D.I wings too.

There you go :)

P.S. Quick quiz -which of the Albatros upperwings is for the ser.253? No prize, but a fun question!

P.P.S. Underside of the wings.

(http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv223/ta152h/IMG02591-20120725-1724.jpg)
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: uncletony on July 26, 2012, 05:51:18 AM
I guess it's the one with the large cut-out (center) -- didn't the 253 have an enormous radiator?
Title: Re: Glencoe 1:48 Oeffag D.III
Post by: ta152c on July 26, 2012, 05:59:22 AM
No, its not to do with the radiator, have another guess :)

(cut-out is there because in the photos, the lower part of the radiator has a deeper section toward the rear which I'm trying to replicate). In some ways, these Glencoe kits do take me back to my early days of modelling, although in our village 1:48 WW1 stuff was too esoteric for the Scottish Highlands. Has been good fun so far though, as a newcomer to the scale. I hope they don't turn out bad, I'd be gutted.

Regards :)