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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Nigel Jackson on September 19, 2013, 06:23:01 AM
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Hello All
This posting marks the first in what I hope will be a fruitful series but they may come at almost geological intervals as I try to balance work, family, home and leisure. My goal is to complete an EV in the rabbit and snake markings that I've commented on elsewhere and in the streaked finish about which I have received so much help. Do bear in mind, though that the finish will almost certainly be in the NJ house style to match the other 1/48 models in my collection. More sophisticated finishing will come, I hope when I venture into 1/32 scale next year.
I often find it helpful to try and sketch out with notes some key issues to get a very rough sense of what I am looking to achieve. So, my first posting here doesn't show any part of the model. Instead it is just a page of the notes and already you'll see there are issues, like which (if either) is the correct interpretation of the fantastic info provided by Zabu and which is in the thread I do make models honestly! For the wing outline I just traced around the Eduard mouldings. The actual number of stripes (10) is more than I've come across before.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/9805885414_c7ee0f60e7_c.jpg)
A second page of notes, contains the following observations.
Note and be careful: starboard cockpit framing already bent/distorted quite badly; same true to a lesser extent of an undercarriage leg.
Eduard internal lozenge decals for fuselage surely wrong - don't really represent something on the outside being looked at from the inside. replacements ordered.
Cockpit instrumentation on real thing very rudimentary.
Some largish areas of carrier film around parts of body of snake. Will need to remove?
So there we are. Please bare with me and my slow speed and if you spot any obvious howlers in my notes/interpretation do let me know.
Best wishes
Nigel
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A good start... when do we glue up some bits?? ;)
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Hi Nigel. I'm glad i was helpfull.
What i'm telling you goes from what i read around in some forums, i'm no expert.
About undercarriage fairing.
Although many drawing and profiles are shown with the wing axle in lozenge, it's generally more accepted that they were solid... for money issues (not wasting money in lozenge in that part of the airplane) and for shock absorbers maintenance purposes fabric wouldn't be appropriated. With the constant leaking of oil, dirt, mud and so on the fabric would be permeable rooting the wood very quickly. Some experts say lozenge was hand painted when the aircraft was knew, but after some time it would be difficult to paint again cause of the falling castor oil.
In the comments that i kept in the image properties i have a quote again from DSA:
"The axle wing was shellacked, varnished to seal the plywood and painted dark olive green oil drippage."
I miss his Blue-Skies. :-[
Update: Now take a look in this pics... they were right about oil falling into to the axle wing or is that brand new lozenge?
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/TheZabu/FokkerEV138.jpg)
And would a solid axle cover do this?
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/TheZabu/FokkerEV139.jpg)
Hard to tell imo.
I hope i was any helpfull.
Cheers
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i read a while back about the top wing streaks i dont think they have 10 sections. dan san abott wrote there can be 3,4,5 or 7 sections. i dont know where he discovered this, and we cannot ask him since he passed away but he was a leading researcher on ww1 german colors ,patterns, and markings. did you see one with 10 sections or is this artistic licence? the landing gear wing was not covered with cloth it was wooden and painted the assumption held is that it was fokker green.
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Zabu. Thanks again for coming to my rescue.
ALBATROS1234 I was just basing it on a quotation that Zabu had provided elsewhere. To avoid confusion and overlapping threading, the quotation is now in the thread Fokker E.V/D.DVIII wing streaking. I extrapolated from that, but like you I was surprised.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hello All
First, my apologies for the enormous time lapse from the initial postings. Work, work, work! With Des’s permission this build log is actually a retrospective because the model is now completed and some photographs have been placed in the Specific Aircraft Build Links/ Show us your Fokker E.V thread on this forum. Thank you to those who've already visited and commented. Here’s just one of the images.
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What I’ll do here is show some of the stages along the way.
In this first stage, I sprayed the interior surfaces with a white undercoat bought from Games Workshop, and then used an HB pencil to shade around the moulded wooden parts. I find this a bit easier than using washes etc. The potential disadvantages are clear: unless you use a very sharp pencil, you’ll get tramlines or scruffy edges; and the graphite is shiny (although this will go after the next stages).
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I’ve then brush painted a coat of Prince August Air colour number 74 – Beige Radome. As you can see I’ve used a very broad flat brush to do this.
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The next stage is one that I enjoyed. From an ancient tube of Rowney Georgian 223 Burnt Umber Series 1, (It must be at least 35 years old!) I applied some oil colour without bothering too much about the thickness of the coat. I’ve found that it does not matter so much how it goes on as to how much and how it comes off. This meant using smaller stiff brush that I tend to use for dry brushing. Here I wanted to make broadly straight, parallel sweeps and had to wipe the excess from the brush on a regular basis. This was facilitated by the slow drying time of the oils. I do sometimes use just a very small amount of white spirit to quicken things up but have learned to be sparing, otherwise you lose the very quality you are trying to capitalise on.
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I had to hand some of the Old Propeller interior lozenge decal and applied that. Later using their decals for the fuselage exterior we developed a sort of love-hate relationship. It achieved a beautiful exterior finish, but I only had to look at it in a cross way for cracks and splits to appear. Well, maybe it was more to do with my clumsiness in handling ...
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Next time, I’ll deal with the other interior detail.
Best wishes
Nigel
PS as you'll notice, I abandoned any idea of the number of colour bands shown in the first posting.
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I have already commented on how much I like your EV in the Specific Aircraft thread. I will add that this is an interesting and unique reverse build thread! I like the idea. Already know that it is a smashing success.
RAGIII
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Thanks as ever Rick. For the next posting I'll focus on the other internal details and get the fuselage sealed up.
Best wishes
Nigel
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You did a superb job with the wood Nigel, it is a beautiful rich colour and looks very realistic, the inside lozenge is a great finishing touch.
Des.
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That is a very superb beginning.
Martin
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Dear Martin and Des thank you.
I'll be flying to the UK and back home to France this weekend, but I'll try and get another posting added as soon as possible. There's also a sort of Camel build somewhere up my sleeve.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Great work so far, Nigel -
The wood and lozenge look very realistic.
Regards
Dave
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She looks awesome from my end Nigel ! ;D
Terri
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Thank you Dave and Terri.
Now that we're back in France, I put up the next set of pictures. It gets us ever closer to the cock-up/catastrophe that occurred at one stage in the build before a stiff drink or two, well actually a cup of earl Grey tea, got me back on track. But more of that anon.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hello All
Bearing in mind that this is a retrospective look at the build with the final thing as shown below and elsewhere, here are some further steps.
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Time for the cockpit interior, which was rather a Spartan affair and there is no comfy cushion for the pilot to sit on. By this stage in the war sitting on a parachute would have sufficed. Behind the seat, but not clearly shown in these photos is some lozenge fabric. The aluminium painting ahead of the control column in these two pictures was tidied up in due course. EZ Line has been used for internal bracing and cabling. I find it easier to use, though one of its known faults, variable thickness is evident here.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/15399342291_bfb951b5ed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/psMDXz)IMG_4439 (https://flic.kr/p/psMDXz) by nigeljjackson (https://www.flickr.com/people/101192141@N08/), on Flickr
All ready to seal up.
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The photographic record gets a bit patchy here, and so we have quite a jump.
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Here we have some of the sub assemblies on the way. The fuselage and tail assembly were sprayed gloss white by way of preparation for decals – although not all things were to quite work out that way. I’m not quite sure why the wing received a similar treatment and I’m pretty sure that I subsequently gave it a matt coat. But anyway, more of that anon.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Very neat and crisp work Nigel! Looks terrific. :D Of course, we know how this one ends: one beatiful little E.V! ;D Great job!
Cheers,
Bob
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It is a superb work and paint.
Martin
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The kit looks like it builds up really well . Did you have any trouble with the assembly ?
Terri
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I like the idea of leaving just one sprue attachment on the struts. Must make handling while painting much easier!
RAGIII
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Hello All and thank you again for the kind words, Martin and Bob.
Just to add a couple of things. Yes, Terri, it is a nice kit to build. I did have problems with some of the decals and the wing fixing but I suspect that in each case the problem was self-inflicted. I will definitely explain each in due course if that's ok.
Leaving one sprue attachment on the stut attachments did help, Rick. My reasoning was twofold: to make handling that bit easier; and also to keep track of which piece was which since the sprue included the part number. I don't always do this and sometimes wrap a small piece of masking tape with the part number written on it around the strut end. After painting I used a really sharp blade to remove the sprue and then touched it up.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hello All
I was keen to get the fuselage sealed to start work on the lozenge fabric. The decals provided by Eduard haven't really stood the test of time and much better versions are more easily available now. Those to hand were from Wood & Wire and they were applied onto a high gloss white surface. I found them to be a bit fragile, but that almost certainly reflected my clumsiness. This work began with the fuselage upper decking and to avoid the edges flaking off I varnished before embarking on anything else. My local model shop in Limoges recommended Mr Hobby matt topcoat, and I was very pleased with the overall finish.
While on the decals, I first thought to use the black stripes provided by Eduard on the horizontal tail surfaces. This did not work too well because the decals are quite large and the ends kept flicking over on themselves and generally misbehaving. They were cleaned off and I did what I knew I should have done all along, measured and masked carefully and sprayed on my own stripes. Because I wanted to give a sense of different surfaces being finished in slightly different ways, I gave the tailplane a very light pass with a Tamiya semi-gloss spray.
Of the other things done here, I’ve put the undercarriage together, having checked all the angles and dry-fitted it against the fuselage and prepared the rigging. The machine guns and propeller have also been worked on, with strips of tape helping to guide the painting of the layers of wood on the latter. Getting a bit impatient, masking tape has also been used to give an early indication of the placement of the bands of colour on the wing undersurface.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5605/15549844445_7eeb603309_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pG621i)IMG_4448 (https://flic.kr/p/pG621i) by nigeljjackson (https://www.flickr.com/people/101192141@N08/), on Flickr
Sorry about the reflected glare from the fuselage in the next photo. The point I wanted to make was that it took me several goes with the lozenge decals before I was happy with them on the fuselage sides and I sealed them asap with a gloss varnish to prepare for the Eduard snake and rabbit decals. The matt varnish would come later. All the struts have been wholly removed from the sprues and bits of numbered masking tape used to keep a check on which is which. Such is my normal state of paranoia.
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I like the stage when I can put fuselage sub-assemblies together and this takes things into the third photo. As you’ll see the blue elements of the under wing paintwork has been started, but I’ll go through what I did on that in the next posting and we get ever near to the near catastrophe.
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Best wishes
Nigel
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What a beautiful work Nigel.
Martin
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Lovely job, Nigel. Your painting is superb as shown by the
the finished pictures. Neat idea about leaving the sprue on
the struts, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Exceptional neat, clean work, Nigel! She is stunning! Your wing streaking is superb.
Cheers,
Bud
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What a great looking build! She looks really sharp, Nigel.
Chris
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Hi Nigel,
Great build with lot of attention to the upper wing. Like it a lot!
Dagmar
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Exceptional neat, clean work, Nigel! She is stunning! Your wing streaking is superb.
Cheers,
Bud
What Bud said and more Nigel. Lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Dear Martin, Ernie, Bud, Chris, Dagmar and Lance, thank you all so much for your kindness which provides such encouragement to continue. I hope to be able to post the next part tomorrow. It will focus on the wing.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hello, Nigel -
Looking good - I really like your chosen colour/marking scheme. Look forward to seeing more progress.
Regards
Dave
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Thank you Dave.
With the fuselage and tailplane largely complete, it was time to work on the wing and here I’ll focus on the techniques used. For the paint scheme’s rationale, I would refer readers to the notes which accompany the completed model in the Show us your Fokker E.V thread. It is certainly not my intention to try and teach anyone to suck eggs, rather just to show my approach. Any faults or errors are, of course mine alone.
Having decided to try and replicate bands of coloured wood stain, streakily applied rather than an overall olive drab, my preferred approach was to use oil colours over a white base. The oils used are from the Rembrandt extra fine range (I have a small box of ten colours), plus a tube of Sennelier extra fine sap green. The shades I was aiming to recreate - though I recognise with limited success, are those shown in the Ronny Barr illustrations and the comparative colour charts in Volume 2 of the excellent Achim Sven Engels’ (Fokker Team – Schorndorf) Fokker D.VIII in Detail. Shown below are the scrap art paper/card mixing palettes. Clearly some of the colours played no part in the final outcomes and others were little more than a touch.
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The point about using oils is that they are easy to mix and you can lift excess paint and reapply if necessary to achieve the effect you want. This is a benefit of what can be an incredibly slow drying time. However, the drying speed can be increased considerably by mixing in a very small amount of white spirit. Care is needed because using too much will negate the very quality you are seeking to capitalise on - the time oils give you to work on the surface finish. In terms of the overall mix, I wanted something the consistency of something that would never have any hope running.
Having marked out the boundaries of the first underwing colour with masking tape, I applied some lines of colour with an old thickish brush. The strokes were parallel with the masking tape and each line was separated by a couple of clean brush widths. I started very close to but not quite against the masking tape (to avoid a big build up of paint at the junction), and worked from left to right. With this done, the effect almost looked like blue and white zebra stripes!
The next stage was to use a trusty wide, stiff brush - one that I use for dry brushing, and dragging it straight along each line of colour. Some of what was picked up was wiped off the brush, but what remained was then dragged alongside and parallel to the first line of colour. The same thing was done again until the next thick line of colour was reached where the whole process was repeated. Regularly wiping the brush dry (keeping away from the white spirits) and revisiting each of the streaks made it possible to get the blend and effect I was after. A bonus was that the brushing left a nice thin covering of colour and an even surface.
Nervous as ever, I left things a day or two before attempting to apply the second colour. When I was absolutely sure that the first was dry, I deliberately applied some hopelessly untacky masking tape I had in the garage. The aim was to prevent accidental over brushing with the new colour without running the risk of strong adhesion removing any of the blue. In the photo, I have yet to apply anything to delineate the ailerons, that will come later, or to ensure that the different bands of colour had no tiny white gaps between them.
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Here we have an overview of things, and now we also have the undercarriage in place, which proved a nice secure fit.
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With the wing under surface done, the process was repeated for the upper surface of the wing.
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However, disaster is just around the corner..... Mysterious eh?
Best wishes
Nigel
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Fantastic paint Nigel.
Martin
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Have only just seen this - very impressive indeed - you really are a very good artist as well as being a very good modeller. Your attention to detail is exceptional and the finish overall is of the very highest standard. Very many congratulations and I look forward to seeing the completed model.
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Nigel, your build looks great. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain your technique, very helpful and informative. Now I just need the talent to go with it!
Chris
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Nigel, looking at what you did with the wing, I can't
imagine it could get any better! Wonderful work. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Two big thumbs up !
Terri
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Hello, Nigel,
I'm just discovering this now but you can be sure I will have along look at the other postings, with note pad in hand. It's heart warming to read about your creative process.
Bravo!
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Goodness me, thank you for your kind words and encouragement, Martin, lone modeller, Chris, Ernie, Terri and Michael! I suppose the truth is that I know what skeletons lie in the cupboard on this build.
Incidentally, lone modeller, the build log here is a retrospective and I recently posted photos of the completed model in the Show us your Fokker E.V thread.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Great job Nigel! Your detailed tutorial on the wing streaking was very helpful and much appreciated. ;D
Cheers,
Bob
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Thanks Bob.
The next step was to attach the upper wing and I was looking forward to this. On the E.V there are, of course, just four attachment points which are relatively close together. Compare that with the twelve securing the upper wing on a Brisfit! So careful alignment was going to be crucial, if for different reasons.
Reassuringly, the complex of front struts provided by Eduard form a sturdy platform once glued to the fuselage; the rear struts are just that bit more vulnerable. With all the struts drying in place on the fuselage I made a small template to ensure the accuracy of their relative position. Once they were dry, the wing was placed, upper surface face down, on the work mat; with the fit nice and snug the struts were glued in place. Back on its undercarriage, I checked the front elevation and plan view and things were neatly in line and as they should be. I took the following photo and went to bed.
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The next morning, everything was nice and secure; the model could be lifted by the wing. But, if you are a lover of movie soundtracks, think Jaws – more specifically the sinister music that builds up just before the shark strikes another victim. Something was not quite right ....
In my elation the previous night, I had forgotten to check out the side profile. To my horror, I now found that the wing sat at completely the wrong angle, dipping down at the leading edge and almost on stilts at the rear. The Datafile confirmed my worst fears. The following sketches try to give a sense of things, albeit it an exaggerated way. The shark had struck.
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The next few days were characterised by deep gloom, as I tried to work out what had gone wrong and how it might be corrected. Perhaps I had drilled the front location holes too deeply? But why was the back so high when the rear struts seemed properly located on the lower fuselage sides?
In the search for a solution, it was clear that forward and rear struts would have to be adjusted and I was most reluctant to cut the rear struts from the fuselage sides: the fear of collateral damage to the lozenge work was too great. So, plucking up the courage and using a brand new blade I sliced completely through the four joints as close to the wing surface as possible and took it off.
The challenge now was to lengthen the front struts slightly with plastic card shaped to section and reduce the height of those at the rear, as well as adding new locating pins and drilling fresh holes in the wings. This in itself brought further trials and tribulations but the animals were safely out of the house and Ena had wisely sought refuge in Limoges. Stiff drinks were the order of the day and cameras banned.
It was with some nervousness that I then set about re-attaching the wing to the fuselage because I felt that I might not another chance. To help me I used a piece of card cut to the required gap between the wing and the fuselage, forward and rear. Amazingly, it worked and that came as a tremendous relief.
I still can’t quite puzzle out what went wrong but feel it must have been my fault somehow. The message is clear. This is a lovely model to build, but be sure to check out that the rear struts don’t push the wing trailing edge too high. Here we have the box art, the marking scheme in the instructions, sprues and decals. Note the disparity between the box art and the scheme colours. As you’ll have realised, the lozenge decals were replaced. Carelessly I forgot to take a photo of the main part of the decal sheet.
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And here we have the razor in all its glory.
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Many more pictures are in the Show us Your Fokker E.V thread and I should add that since they were all taken I have run some very heavily diluted black oil paint down the gap between fin and rudder as well as replacing an aileron control line.
Thank you for reading. Now there’s a cannibalised Sopwith Camel on its way...
Best wishes
Nigel
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What a great save Nigel!
Stiff drinks were the order of the day and cameras banned.
Now that made me chuckle! ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Great scheme and a lovely outcome! Looks great Nigel.
Chris
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Wonderful work and great paint Nigel.
Martin