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Title: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 02, 2013, 05:25:57 AM
Hello All

I've been a member of this wonderful forum for quite a number of months now. Over the course of time I've asked lots of questions, given a few bits of information and experienced serious dropping of the jaw at the quality of so much work. But, you might be wondering whether I actually make anything or am just one of those who buy to stache.

Well, I've taken the plunge with some photos in Flickr.  I would ask you to be gentle with the comment. The limitations in my approach are many but for every absolute genius whose work is on display in this forum  there may be many of us duffers at or near the other end of the spectrum just trying our best. What I can say though is that I am learning. 

If you do have the time to look at the photos I would be very happy. In doing so, please also read the captions where I present my excuses and comments. The models are all 1/48 scale and are presented in no particular order. You are likely to recognise the earlier more feeble efforts; the Brisfit is the most recent addition.

By way of context, all the models were photographed outside on a sunny day and shaded by a canopy. As a modeller I've tinkered around with kits for over half a century (work scarcely ever permitting), but often found myself side-tracked into painting 25mm soldiers, mainly from the 16th and 17th centuries.

So here we go

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/101192141@N08/

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Epeeman on September 02, 2013, 07:54:53 AM
Hello, Nigel -

No need to be bashful with the quality of your builds - they all look good, clean tidy builds to me.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Des on September 02, 2013, 07:57:23 AM
All of your models are absolutely brilliant Nigel, no need for excuses at all, your modeling skills are superb. Thank you for allowing us to see your models through Flickr, but I would be very happy if you posted the photos here as well.

Des.
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Post by: lawman56 on September 02, 2013, 08:02:16 AM
Beautiful work, Nigel! No need to be so worried, you have a lot of skill and much to offer!  :D
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Ernie on September 02, 2013, 09:56:00 AM
Gorgeous collection of models, Nigel!  Thanks so much for sharing them
with us.  I really hope you show off your next build here.  Hoping to see
more of your projects.

Cheers.
Ernie :)
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: uncletony on September 02, 2013, 10:35:21 AM
Excellent collection, NJ!
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: lcarroll on September 02, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
Nigel,
   Yes, you most certainly do build models! You have a very impressive collection here, and more would be most welcome! Thanks for sharing al of these.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Rob Hart on September 02, 2013, 12:50:55 PM
Those are all nice models. Thanks for sharing the photos. That is an interesting scheme on the Dreidecker.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: coyotemagic on September 02, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
What a beautiful collection, Nigel!  All in my favorite scale, too!  I especially love the Biff.  She's stunning.  You've now thrown me into a quandary.  I've both the Eduard and Roden kits, plus Rowans brilliant decal sheet for them.  I've got so much on the bench just now, but seeing your magnificent Biff has me pulling mine out of the stash and hacking away at sprues.  Thanks for posting, mate!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 02, 2013, 07:20:43 PM
Hello All

Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement. I have to admit that I opened up the computer with some trepidation this morning, not least because I'm painfully aware of their limitations particularly in enlarged photos; I'm haunted too by the small joint seam visible on the Biff. But as I've said, I'm trying to learn.

Des - I'd be very happy to post some photos direct  but wasn't sure quite how to. No doubt there be a thread explaining it and I'll search it down.

Rob - The Dreidecker  scheme is straight from the Eduard instructions where it is described as that of Ltn Hans Weiss.

Bud - Yes I too faced the decision: Biff by Eduard or Roden? Had I been quicker off the mark then it would have been the Roden because that was released earlier. But when the choice became available I went for the Eduard version for two reasons. First, though often beautifully engineered I've had more problems in the past with Roden models as the SE5a and Fokker D.VII can testify; it's my fault not theirs.  Second, it has always seemed to me that in building a Biff the absolute key lies in getting the attachment of the lower wing to the fuselage right. Problems here have real knock on consequences. When I lay the two models out and compared approaches, Eduard seemed to offer a more straightforward, sturdy solution and one I felt that I could manage.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 02, 2013, 07:42:27 PM
I do build models, honestly!....and to a high standard. Well done!! Thanks for sharing  ;)

VB
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Post by: rhallinger on September 02, 2013, 09:16:34 PM
Great stuff Nigel!  Truly a collection to be proud of.  Now, be fruitful and multiply your squadron. ;)

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Adam on September 02, 2013, 09:25:35 PM
Thank you for sharing yours beautiful models.

Adam.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: lone modeller on September 03, 2013, 07:30:54 AM
Nigel,
  I started building models when I was knee high to a grasshopper, continued for about 20 years and then stopped for over 30 years. Most of the models that I kept were in the roof (lack of space) but I kept two (one a complex conversion), in home-made perspex covers, but in my workroom where nobody could see them. Why? Because I thought that they were not very good....... Thirty plus years ago showing off one's work meant going to clubs and competitions, so I did not go and never showed my work to anyone, never got any feedback, and never learned much. I am also my own worst critic (as you clearly are of yourself).

    I too made my first offering to this site with some trepidation, (I did not return to this site for 5 days after I posted the pictures because I feared what others might write), and found that every comment was helpful, appreciative and supportive. I am slowly beginning to see my work with new eyes. Looking at your models I think that you are a first rate modeller and I congratulate you on a really impressive collection - certainly one to be proud of. Please show us more of your work - it is really good. Some of the modellers on this site really are in a class of their own and do things that I could only ever dream of, but there are many others who also make some really good models: you are one of them.

Welcome to the fraternity.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: LindsayT on September 03, 2013, 09:46:50 AM
Even with the anonymity conferred by the Internet it still takes a bit of courage to post your builds. Think about it: most of the people you're showing your work to will never meet you in person, and could really say whatever nasty thing comes to mind, yet the comments are entirely positive, encouraging and constructive. That's how we know we're in the right place.

Great looking builds, Nigel. Looking forward to seeing more.

Lindsay
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Post by: miecio52 on September 03, 2013, 02:25:57 PM
Beautiful work :)
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: lone modeller on September 03, 2013, 08:47:37 PM
the comments are entirely positive, encouraging and constructive. That's how we know we're in the right place.


I agree 1000% with this comment.

Thanks to all of you who write such positive and encouraging remarks to those of us who still get the wobbles when we post pictures of our work.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Chris Johnson on September 03, 2013, 09:22:12 PM
Absolutely no need for any trepidation in posting your models Nigel. They're all extremely well done. I wish mine looked that good! Now that you've made the plunge, I hope you'll consider doing a build log on your next project as I know I'll pick up a tip or two from you.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 04, 2013, 02:19:42 AM
Thank you again for all the kind words and encouragement.

Lone modeller There is a lot that I can relate to in your posting.

I would just add one further thing. Making kits also started for me a frighteningly long time ago and at that time it seemed so easy. You bought the kit and some glue, made it, applied the transfers and, if you had any paint, you painted it. It never went anywhere near a sanding board/craft knife to remove excess glue on seam lines etc (or any of the other tools we often take for granted today); nor was it modified/improved in any way. The point was that it was finished.

When I returned to modelling after many years, it was to be overwhelmed by magnificent models made by people whose skills I could only admire and a wealth of accessories, tools etc. This brought about a block in my mind and I found it near impossible to finish anything This wonderful website and forum has helped me with that but a key breakthrough also came when I reverted, metaphorically, to childhood. It had occurred to me that whilst I was quite knowledgeable about aircraft profiles I had nothing to hand which would give me a three-dimensional view and feel of the aircraft I loved. My solution was to go and find the cheapest biplane kit I could and just glue the thing together. Within the afternoon I was the owner of a 'finished'  Revell 1/72 Sopwith Camel; naturally enough, I wasn't the proud owner.

Funny how it helped to remove a mental block. It's now under lock and key away from prying eyes but kept as a reminder ....

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Zabu on September 04, 2013, 05:50:28 AM
Hi Nigel.

Great looking collection you have there. You build models for sure!

Thank you for sharing.

Cheers
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 17, 2013, 09:01:57 PM
Thank you for your kind words Zabu.

It's often a snail's pace and, if I can mix the metaphor, I tend to flit around like a butterfly. There's a Camel and a Sopwith Triplane in progress,  but I'm very keen to start work on a Fokker EV before I finish them !

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Ernie on September 17, 2013, 11:09:18 PM
Nigel, I am really looking forward to the E.V build.  If it's anything like your
Nieuport (which is my favourite ;)), it will be a sweet model.  Do you plan
on doing the streaked wing? 

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Cimmerian on September 17, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
What a great collection you have there, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 18, 2013, 01:03:16 AM
Thank you Ernie and Ken.  I much appreciate your kind words.

Ernie, I'm gearing myself up for the EV and friends here have been really helpful in providing advice, sources and photos. I will be doing a streaked wing, although that does pose something of a problem. I'd like to do the rabbit and snake markings shown as scheme A in the Eduard instruction booklet but I'd want to see the evidential basis for it first. Eduard simply ascribe it to A Mystery Owner -Jasta 8?. There's no sign of it in Datafile 25 nor in Alex Imrie's Vintage Warbirds volume on Fokker Fighters of World War One.  It may well mean that the style of wing streaking -- of which there were a number of variants - would become speculative on my part and that does worry me a bit.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: uncletony on September 18, 2013, 02:16:02 AM
It may well mean that the style of wing streaking -- of which there were a number of variants - would become speculative on my part and that does worry me a bit.

Best wishes
Nigel

hehe don't worry so much... it's ALL speculative   ;)
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: KONG on September 18, 2013, 06:51:58 AM
You have no problems there my friend . . . . All absolutely marvellous

Cheers

DAVE
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Zabu on September 18, 2013, 08:25:47 AM
Hi Nigel.

I guess that you're talking about this one?


(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/TheZabu/FokE_Vsnakerab.jpg)

If so i'll quote Dan San Abot

"The Fok.E.V is in the top elevation with the nose pointing up. The slope of the streaking is \. From leading edge to trailing the slope spans two rib bays at the center portion of the wing. Number the wing ribs left to right from 1 to 26.
Wing tip to 1.75 is green, to rib 4.25 is brown, to 6.5 is green, to 9.0 is brown, to 11 green, to 14 is brown, to 16.5 is green, to 19.5 is brown, to 22.75 is green, to the wing tip is brown. On the under surface of the wing the Azin violet* (17A7), matches the mocha brown* (5F7), and the azure blue* (23A7), matches the True green*(27A7), on the leading and trailing edges. The wing is streaked with these stains,(not paint) much like the Fok.DR.I. The base color would be the birch plywood, pale yellow. After the stained dried, the wing was varnished to waterproof the wing surfaces. The Methuen codes listed are the specific colors listed on the Fokker E.V wing drawing by definition."

Sorry if i can't be more helpfull.

Cheers
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: uncletony on September 18, 2013, 10:03:39 AM
Well there ya go! Well done Zabu.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on September 18, 2013, 08:36:23 PM
Oh my goodness me, this is brilliant. Thank you Zabu. The combination of things that I have received from people like Trackpad, Jamo, Lance on the Fokker EV thread  and yourself has been amazing.

No excuses now!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Cimmerian on September 18, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
And that is why forums like this are such a nice place to be. Help and encouragement comes from all directions.  ;D
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Post by: Trackpad on September 23, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Hello, Nigel,

Excellent modelling skills, based on your photos: Well Done! More topics to discuss when we meet at Telford!  :D
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: olfogey on November 29, 2013, 02:55:22 AM
Nigel:
I'm later than most, as I just joined.
I am a novice at this, and I only HOPE my initial efforts will turn out as nice as yours!!!  8) ;)
Thank You for sharing your builds..........
Jim J. -- "olfogey"
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 29, 2013, 04:45:09 AM
Thank you so much for your kind words Jim. There's more on the way, but work has left me so little spare time of late.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: mgunns on November 29, 2013, 12:33:45 PM
Hello Nigel:

I fully appreciate your trepidation.  I was the same way when I got back into WWI modeling.  There was so much quality work out there and I felt like the proverbial hack.  However, I proceeded to build, always a first step, and posted the finished product.  I received praise and constructive comments from all and have learned so much since then.  I still feel like the hack, but what the heck, I post the models anyway.  I am always learning and always improving and that is what is counts.  This is a great forum, much to learn and much to share.
You do great work Nigel and it is a joy to look at your collection and enjoy the visual feast.
Looking forward to your build of the EV.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 29, 2013, 06:31:51 PM
Thank you so much Mark for your kindness and encouragement. I've just started work on the EV cockpit and will be posting some photos in the not too distant future, I hope.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Bolman on June 06, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
Nigel,

 I found this thread by searching Google with 'Does Nigel Jackson BUILD models?'
So, here I am!  What a totally AWESOME group of builds you have there. The Pfalz is definately my favorite.

I must also comment on your reluctance to post your work up until this posting;

I do completely share your 'fears' as it were of what others see of the work being done. Mine aren't even in the same class as what is being posted on here since nearly none of my over 60 builds are anything close to being a historical representation of a WW1 aircraft. Why? Mine are filling a need as game pieces and I do what I can get away with in order to make it look good enough on the game table. I wouldn't dream of taking any of my completed models to date to a model competition/show. They're just not built to that level. But, I am building my skills to the point that someday, I may actually take the challenge and build a competition model and come see how well it fairs.

Keep up the good work pal, and... if you take more pics of the Pfalz, I'd be happy to attempt to duplicate that scheme in 1/72!

John
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Alexis on June 06, 2014, 11:51:15 AM
Hey , now those are some fine clean builds ! I really love how your Pfalz D.IIIa turned out  :) Would love to see some more phot's of this one and the Bristol fighter as well  :)





Terri
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 06, 2014, 10:06:55 PM
Hello John and Terri

I'm glad that you found the photos and thank you so much for your kind words, they are much appreciated.

It seems to me that one of the great features of this forum is the willingness of members to view and appreciate builds within their context, rather than always only against a sole absolute, supposed perfection So, that leaves scope for the slow journeyman like me. It would also mean a welcome for your earlier work, John, as a gamer. It's very many years since I entered a competition and that was with wargame figure painting and some military vehicles; they achieved some success, but I decided that it wasn't really something for me.

I don't think I have any more photos to hand, but the next time I take any, I'll make sure that I do some more of the Pfalz and the Brisfit. It may just take a bit of time because, as you may have read elsewhere, circumstance has not been been kind with my wife's accident and things are proceeding very slowly. I have an EV started and a Camel much further on (both Eduard 1/48), though some frustrations with latter may lead to its completion using hammer and nails. Then it will on to something from WnW.

As to the Pfalz scheme, John, it's straight from the Eduard dual combo set. If it helped I'd be happy to copy that part of the instruction sheet for you and send it by email.

Thank you both, again.

Best wishes
Nigel


Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: vincentm on June 12, 2014, 07:46:50 AM
I just discovered your galeries. Very very nice birds. The builds are particularly clean and precise. I love the Pfalz, I plan to build one of the same Jasta (pilot: Georg von der Marwitz).
Let me know if you take those kits at model shows in western France, I'd be happy to see them and meet you as well.


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Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2014, 09:29:50 AM
Well Nigel, I must apologize for the VERY LATE reply! For some reason I thought I had already commented  :-X
That is a beautiful collection! I really like the DVII and Tripe, and Nieuport and......
RAGIII
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Des on June 12, 2014, 10:47:41 AM
As I said way back on page one Nigel, your models are all extremely well done and I look forward to seeing your newest builds.

I started this forum to cater for all scales of WW1 model aircraft and more so for all levels of modeling experience and skill levels. There is no and will never be any distinction between what people perceive as a good or bad build, all models and modelers will be treated equal and hopefully we can all learn from each other and keep it as a fun hobby.

Des.
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Ernie on June 12, 2014, 12:00:30 PM
I enjoy your modelling, Nigel, and look forward to your next projects. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: I do build models, honestly!
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 12, 2014, 10:40:53 PM
I do completely share your 'fears' as it were of what others see of the work being done. Mine aren't even in the same class as what is being posted on here since nearly none of my over 60 builds are anything close to being a historical representation of a WW1 aircraft. Why? Mine are filling a need as game pieces and I do what I can get away with in order to make it look good enough on the game table. I wouldn't dream of taking any of my completed models to date to a model competition/show. They're just not built to that level. But, I am building my skills to the point that someday, I may actually take the challenge and build a competition model and come see how well it fairs.

The main drawing feature of this forum in my opinion is that there's room for all different skill levels. We have a great membership here who are unfailingly helpful and mindful of the fact that not everyone is, or will be, a master builder. There is a distinct lack of ego on display here, unlike on many other modelling sites. Build for the fun of it, don't feel that you need to be a slave to absolute accuracy, and don't be shy about posting your work for us to see. At least that's how I approach things.  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
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Post by: TomR1981 on June 13, 2014, 04:55:39 AM
They all look nice to me Nigel. I did the same Fokker triplane kit in the same scheme as my first build after getting back into the hobby, it didn't turn out nearly as nice as yours.
It'll be great to see some more of your work when you get a bit more time to build.

Cheers

Tom