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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Gisbod on August 23, 2013, 12:16:11 AM
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Oh no - another Albatros :P
I've made this kit before, but it was my first effort at a Wingnuts (apologies for the picture - only a small competition - it's just that this one shows the wood to its best effect)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Dva/IMG_1954.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Dva/IMG_1954.jpg.html)
I was happy with it at the time, but I was woefully uninformed - so no extras, no turnbuckles etc, no help from the forum! ::) I was pleased with the wood effect (using oils) but this time is going to be all about the wood - I've got the Uschi Van Rosten wood decals to experiment with ;D
This morning was like Christmas after the postman had been:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-1.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-1.jpg.html)
I like this bit - a virgin and untouched kit that has all the potential to be a National Champion (until I start it..) I'm really going for this one - I've ordered just about every extra I can find. I've even ordered the HGW decal set to act as my template for the Uschi decalling (they're sheets & the HGW are 'cookie cut') - although having seen the HGW in the flesh they look pretty good to me -although I have heard they don't go on well - I may experiment anyway.. Anyone have experience of these?
I've got the WNW's 'Wooden Wonders' decal set. I'm undecided on 'GISI' or 'EMMA' (Red 3) - Emma has the Lozenge, Gisi doesn't - it may depend on if I can get a lozenge set in time..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image.jpg.html)
My extras are:
Steven's excellent spoked wheel (Emma has this in Wingnut's period photo)
WNW's Wooden Wonders Decal set 30018
Uschi Van der Rosten wood decals - WGSF48-B (knotless) and WGSF48-C (for variation)
HGW wood decals 532008 (for a template)
Doug Craner's wood Niendorf propellor
HGW Fabric seat belt set 132507 (I may try and get a resin seat cushion too.. Did the Alby's all have a cushion? The seat part is bare on the kit..)
Master Models Brass Spandau set 32-023
Taurus Models springs & plug sets D3202c & 3204 (although I may make my own plugs this time)
Gaspatch turnbuckles 'One End' (I haven't gone for the 'Albatros' ball type as I thought fixing would be an issue..)
Gaspatch Anemometer
Old Propeller Resin Exhaust
Old Propeller Resin Manifold
Lozenge set - Wood & Wire (Albatros set 32xxx)
Eduard photo etch for Albatros D.III (32-583)
HGW 321010 nail heads
HGW PE exterior set 132056
Bobs Buckles :D
Do you reckon brass instrument bezels are worth getting?
Thanks again for looking - (I can't finish the Fokker until I get Steven's Wheels so I'm hoping to get stuck into this one in the next few days ;))
Ps please don't add up how much I've spent on this!! :o
Cheers
Guy
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Looks good Guy, great kit and great extras, although you have missed some extras, Taurus manifold nuts, Wood & Wire seat and cushion and Wood & Wire faded lozenge decals.
P.S. I know what you mean about the cost of the extras.
Cheers
Pete.
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What fun :)
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OK you have my full and undivided attention :-) Ohhhhhhhh boy what a glorious kit and set of extras. Can I order a front row seat in advance please.
Cant wait to follow this one, i have only just ordered the kit myself these past couple of days so this will be an epic journey for me to learn from.
Great choice Guy, thanks for sharing,
Martin.
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Guy,
......................and I thought I get carried away! Nice inventory, and a Wooden DV and/or Va is right up there on my list as well. I highly recommend brass bezels. Try the Aeroclub 1:32 Etch Instrument Bezels, excellent product and when applied with some Future over the decal instrument faces they work wonders. I compliment Kit Instrument Decals with Airscale Product AS32 WWI, "Instrument Dial Decals" as well.
Good luck with this build, I'll be following your progress with great interest.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Guy,
another excellent choice. During two weeks we will instruments and bezels from our line.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Hello Guy:
Looking forward to this one.
Best
Mark
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Vladimir.......I am sooooooooo looking forward to your release.
Martin.
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Thanks chaps,
Yep, really excited about this one - how the wood turns out will definitely be make or break for me - I'm picturing a light/newish plywood look rather than varnished wood, but we'll see how it pans out..
Looks like I'll have to get some bezels then.. ::)
Ps Martin - how come you've ordered another kit when there's about a year of Gotha left.. :o
Guy
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lol Guy.....I am lucky enough to have 11 WNW kits in the stash now...its an addiction with no known cure ;-)
Ushi has some awesome new decals out that may suit your look your after the 'Fine Veneer' looks amazing
http://www.uschivdr.com/products/wgsf-48c-fine-veneer-plywood/ (http://www.uschivdr.com/products/wgsf-48c-fine-veneer-plywood/)
Martin.
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can i join in the fun here ? he says pulling his chair up and getting comfortable :)
good luck with the build Guy- looking forward to it ;D
michael
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Thanks ;)
Martin - yep, thanks - that's one of the ones I've ordered.. Not here yet though..
Guy
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Nice one Guy, it looks awesome, cant wait to see how it goes for you.
Martin.
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Wow, Guy! This is going to be a great time! You can never have enough Albatros's! With
all the extra goodies, you'll end up with a beauty, even better than your gorgeous winning example...congratulations, by the way. Looking forward to the start of the wooden wonder.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Your first effort looks extraordinary, Guy, and this one is really showing promise. I used the HGW sheet for the 1/48 Oeffag and I was very happy with the result. They are not that difficult to use and are worth what little extra effort is required. They are not a true cookie cutter decal. Each panel is a little over-sized and needs trimming after placement, but they look great when you're done.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you,
Bud - thanks for the decal info.. That's a shame - cos I only got them to use as a template - If they're the wrong size - kinda defeats their purpose!
I haven't got the Uschi ones yet so I can't compare, but I'm certainly impressed with the look of the HGW - looks very scale to my eye - Vladimir's also putting in a sample of the Old Propeller Plywood in with my order to try. So it'll be interesting to have 3 options to look at.. Although my intention is to use the Uschi ones - I'll happily look at each on their own merit..
Spoilt for choice now.. :D
Guy
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Your first Albie was beautiful and I am looking forward to seeing your next effort! I am also going to start my second Albatros soon so I am very interested in watching your build unfold!!
RAGIII
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Guy,
The first Albatros is beautiful my friend. I've no doubt the latest will be even better. Keep up the outstanding progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Morning all,
Finally made a start.. I always have a go at the wood areas first - for the drying time required, then I can put that to one side and have a bash at the engine.
I've masked the recesses here - just to stop them clogging up with paint as I seem to remember the fit tolerance here is fairly critical:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-2.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-2.jpg.html)
How do other people fill those pesky sink holes - there are loads on the internal structure of this kit! I normally superglue, then sand, but these are tricky to get at and I was worried about making more of a mess by sanding/scraping.. So I tried filling the holes with a few layers of Klear - it seems to have worked - they've almost disappeared (and certainly won't be visible once the fuse is closed up)
Pre shading for the oils:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-3.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-3.jpg.html)
Framework brush painted for variation:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-4.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-4.jpg.html)
Hopefully, I'll post the results of the oils a bit later on..
Thanks
Guy
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Guy,
The shading on your base coat looks Terrific! I am looking forward to your work with the oils!
RAGIII
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Looking good Guy, nice start for sure. Regarding the ejection marks I normally use a standard modelling filler and an assortment of graded flexible sponge type sanders that ive bought for fitting in all sorts of nooks and crannies, even the most awkward and tightest of areas can normally be covered with a little patience.
Martin.
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Guy,
Excellent progress my friend.I'm look forward to seeing the wood works progress.
As to you question about filling those pesky sink holes.I usually. Fill them with thin plastic
Disc then coat the super glue and sand them out. You can fill then with choice of liquid putty.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Guy,
A pleasure to follow your progress thus far, looking like another beautiful model from your production line, and I'm particularly interested in what you choose for the fuselage wood grain finish.
Cheers,
Lance
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The Alby is looking good, Guy. I'm looking forward to your interior oils stage.
Good work.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi,
Thanks for the advice guys.. I think I need to get some flexible/sponge sanders - now all I can see in the photos is those blooming sink holes! :-\ although when closed up - I genuinely can't see them..
Here're the oils - bit darker than I intended but not too bad. The oval panel (backstop for the seat) I tried with the Uschi decals - wow! Boy, I can't wait to try this on the fuselage! It was a good lesson, because I need to do the base coat in a much lighter colour - but the potential is beyond my expectations.. They're almost see through, so the base colour is definitely key here..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-6.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-6.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-5.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-5.jpg.html)
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I really like the effect the oils have created! Subtle is good, IMHO,
RGIII
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The oval panel looks very cool... However you may wish to know that it was a piece of linen stretched over the frame on the actual aircraft.
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Really nice effect you have created with your wood work, it's looking great so far.
Des.
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Thanks,
The oval panel looks very cool... However you may wish to know that it was a piece of linen stretched over the frame on the actual aircraft.
No, I didn't want to know that! :-[
I remember that from your build now you've said it.. Was it linen or lozenge? The instructions say light wood!
Guy
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Ah,
Just re-read your build on the fabric Bo.. Do pay attention Guy ::)
Guy
Ps still haven't decided if I'll re-do it though, not sure I'd trust myself to get that fabric effect on the plastic.
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It doesn't show much when it it is closed up.
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Hi Guy and Bo,
I'm going from memory, which can be and usually is dangerous! :-[ but the colour looks good to me. The reason I say this, and I would have to try to find the applicable photo, if I have one, is that my memory of the one fitted to the AWM's Albatros is that it is a darkish brown colour, very similar to the colour you have painted it. Bo is right, this bulkhead is fabric, and the AWM Albatros bulkhead is partially detached (again from memory, but you can see down to the rear of the fuselage so it is either partially detached or has been removed) but I think you've jagged the colour Guy! ;) As Bo said it won't be particularly visible once the fuselage is closed but I know how such details can be niggling if you're not 100% sure about them. Some other manufacturers such as Fokker tended to use lozenge fabric, and Albatros may have as well, but I think the colour you have painted the bulkhead is accurate, at least for some Albatros aeroplanes. I will see if I can find a photo.
Regards,
David.
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I can make a pretty strong case that both CDL and lozenge are plausible and appropriate, if you care. The thing I got wrong in my build was that, while I modified the bulkhead to look like cloth, I didn't know about the large hole in the bottom or its shape (where the tail cables pass thru) I've since collected images of all this.
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Thanks David,
I'm sure I've got it wrong, but I've decided to leave the bulkhead anyway - but you've made me feel slightly better about being slapdash! If I'm being honest - I'm quite happy if it looks right on an artistic level to the detriment of factual accuracy.. I'll probably get shot down for that!
Guy
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Guy,
I did my DIII in a rather dark CDL like yours based on photos of the AWM's DVa D.5390/17. There's a great photo of the seat with the "Baffle or Screen" in plain view in the "Albatros Fighters" Windsock Datafile Special (Pg. 45, bottom left photo) and, as David recalls, it's not lozenge and is partially open, at the top. Of course the timing on my model was early 1917 before Lozenge was in wide use and yours is a later version. I believe David has the logical interpretation; Albatros may have used lozenge however not in all cases, whatever was on hand could logically have been used. This all presumes the AWM version is an original component of course. My input: you're just as correct with your brown cover as you would be with a lozenge one. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing photos of lozenge used on this component in any Albatros D Series Fighters but it appears the rule rather then the exception in most others; could be just selective viewing on my part. David may come up with more photos that further reinforce your case.(and mine!)
She's coming along very nicely, looking forward to more updates from you.
Cheers,
Lance
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You're very welcome Guy! 8)
That's a very reasonable philosophy, and I don't think you've got it wrong at all. I go for accuracy as much as possible, but with WW1 aeroplanes I have learned, as I think we all probably have that this is not always possible. There were so many exceptions to the rule that you just don't always know what is correct and what is not. Poor restorations, age and weathering and conflicting contemporary accounts also make the determination of original details such as colour close to impossible in many cases.
I don't know for sure, but I think that the bulkhead behind the seat is original in D.5390 / '17. It was almost completely original before it was restored by a well meaning group in the late 1960's and early 1970's. On the subject of the mixture of lozenge and plain fabric, this one had a mixture of both! In the quite well known photo of it at the factory I think I can see the purple and green patch camouflage on the upper surfaces of the upper and lower wings, the light blue on the underside of the lower wing and the lozenge fabric on the underside of the upper wing, as it was when it was captured. I often wondered if it had been re - covered during service but I have several copies of the factory photo and the better copies seem to indicate that it left the factory in this very unusual mixture of old style and new style camouflage.
Thank you very much for the reference to the Windsock Datafile Special Lance. I know I have seen photos of the screen but I don't know if I have photos of it in my collection, if I have seen photos of it published or if I simply remember the colour from one of the many research visits. I have even worked at the AWM on two occasions, but research requests are not always easy to have approved, even for staff members! Generally it's not a problem if the necessary approval is sought. I will have a look through my photos, but it could take some time so please don't be shy about a reminder here or there if you don't hear from me. I intend to catalogue all of my photos, but it is going to be an absolutely massive job, given that I have an estimated 10,000 or so, and who knows how many tens of thousands of digital photos! ??? Buying photos on eBay doesn't help either. I bought some very nice 74 Squadron photos a few nights ago (a famous but oddly difficult Squadron to obtain photos of), and some RAF photos taken in Egypt tonight. I probably buy between about 20 and 50 per week! More to catalogue and put into books (eventually! :-[ - it's a very time consuming exercise!) and like all of us I'm not getting any younger!
I don't recall seeing a lozenge cover behind the seat of an Albatros D type either. I know that at least one Fokker had a lozenge cover behind the seat, and it's still there! (the Knowlton D.VII of course) The earlier Fokkers which had plain fabric covering almost certainly would not have had lozenge covers, since the reason they were not covered in lozenge was that it was not used at that stage. Albatroses could be a different story though, since the covering seemed to alternate between plain and lozenge fabric, and in the case of D.5390 / '17, which almost certainly means that this also applies to other Albatros aeroplanes a mixture can be found on a particular aeroplane. Dan San Abbott stated that they alternated every 50 or so aeroplanes (I think I remember reading this in the last few days) and just to give an idea of how unpredictable the covering is D.7161 / '17 is now believed to have been covered in plain fabric which was painted in patch camouflage, even though it was restored in lozenge fabric, which would naturally be expected with such a late production aeroplane. If Albatros used lozenge fabric bulkheads behind the seat it would be anyone's guess as to which ones had lozenge fabric and which ones were plain fabric. The external covering could be an indication but there is no guarantee that the two match, unless the aeroplane was constructed before the introduction of lozenge fabric. I recently read an estimated date for this but I can't recall where I saw it.
Regards,
David.
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Another update..
I'm getting on with the engine - thanks to the forum I've spent a bit more time detailing this than I would have normally, I'm not quite shamed enough to keep up with Bo, but it has at least inspired me to go a bit further!
Despite having the Taurus spark plug set, I elected to use 0.4 & 0.6mm brass rod to represent these. They fit into the existing holes (so they shouldn't get knocked off as easily) neatly and have the added advantage of having a hole at the end to stick a wire into rather than retro gluing, which never looked right to me.. I have used the Taurus rocker arm set however, and I'm pleased I did as they look a lot more detailed in situ than the kit parts...
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-8.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-8.jpg.html)
I did look at a similar technique as Bo on the spark plugs/leads - but frankly, that's beyond my modelling scope! :o
I'm also using 1mm brass for the ignition cable tube - which also has the advantage of having a hole to have the wires to attach to..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-7.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-7.jpg.html)
I'd like to drill the six holes along this rod, but I just don't have the right equipment yet - so that may have to be a retro glue job :-\
Any feedback welcome.
Thanks
Guy
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The details on the engine are looking great!
RAGIII
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Good thinking with the use of the brass tube, Guy. The spark plugs idea
is a winner. Thanks for giving me some food for thought.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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looking good, Guy!
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Nice work, and I like the theory for the spark plugs/wires.
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Hi,
Little bit slower than past builds.. Work's kicking in again :P
Just finished the engine so thought I'd post a few pictures.. a lot more detailed than I would have done in my pre-forum days! ???
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0135.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0135.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0133.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0133.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0129.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0129.jpg.html)
Back to the cockpit next I guess...
Thanks
Guy
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The engine looks superb Guy, you have done an excellent job with the colouring, well done.
Des.
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Excellent!
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Beautiful job on the engine, Guy! First rate. Your model
is going to be a stunner when you are done. I'm looking
forward to more updates.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Excellent engine work, Guy. You've hit it bang on, looking forward to following you along on this project.
Cheers,
Lance
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Outstanding engine work, Guy! I hope you'll leave most of her exposed after all the added detail.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks all ;)
Bud - I think I may on this one, I prefer the look of cowls on but seems silly to spend ages on it then cover it up - at least on the Alby you can just have the cowls sitting in position and remove them.. ;)
Guy
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Absolutely amazing engine!
Regards
Dave
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Gulp! This is beautiful work Guy.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Outstanding build Guy!
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Your engine it's a true gem. Couldn't be any better imho.
Cheers
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Thanks..
Just a quick one of the side instrument panel.. I have tried to decal some of the interior with wood grain, but tbh you can't see it.. The base colours are too dark.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-9.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-9.jpg.html)
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Don't feel bad about the instrument panel, Guy, it looks really good!
I'm enjoying your excellent workmanship. Keep up the good work. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks Ernie ;)
It's just these macro photos are a bit harsh!
Guy
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When I blow the photo up, I can see the wood grain, Guy. It looks fantastic.
Cheers,
Bud
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Believe me, when that panel is installed, people will think it looks just right. Nice work. Are the switches PE from a set?
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The instrument panel looks awesome.
Very fine work Gisbod.
Cheers
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I have to agree with the others. The switch panel looks great, the wood grain in scale is right on!
RAGIII
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Thanks again for the support! ;)
Believe me, when that panel is installed, people will think it looks just right. Nice work. Are the switches PE from a set?
Mike - yep, it's the Eduard photo etch set for a D.III - it's a really good set - prepainted instrument faces, and a wealth of bits and bobs which should come in useful during the build. It also has prepainted seatbelts, but I'll be using the HGW fabric set as it's the most realistic to my eye.
Guy
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Ps
Eduard photo etch for Albatros D.III (32-583) ;)
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Evening,
Bit more progress...
Working on the interior still - here are a few more pictures..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/2ba9a4ba-dcbd-475d-910d-437195a1704a.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/2ba9a4ba-dcbd-475d-910d-437195a1704a.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-12.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-12.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-11.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-11.jpg.html)
I recently got a pack of the sliding brass tubes from Albion Alloys - Des posted a quick review recently - these are brilliant and I've already used loads..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-10.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-10.jpg.html)
Comments welcome (except any regarding sink holes :P)
Thanks
Guy
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WOW Guy! That is probably the finest looking wood finish I've ever seen! Great use of the Albion tubing as well--thats for that tip. ;D Very well done.
Regards,
Bob
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WOW Guy! That is probably the finest looking wood finish I've ever seen! Great use of the Albion tubing as well--thats for that tip. ;D Very well done.
Regards,
Bob
WOW. +1!
Amazing.
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Superb, Guy -
Echo others in saying your 'wood' looks real!
Regards
Dave
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Guy that is an amazing wood finish for the interior! Superb! Your cockpit is
going to be stunning. Nicely done!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Exceptional work on the interior so far Guy, this is going to be a real gem when completed.
Des.
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Spectacular looking cockpit, Guy. Your wood grain is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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Nice! A great finish to the wood, and some nice contrast with the grain breaking different directions.
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Guy,
I of course, must agree with the others, your wood grain is superb! Why? In my opinion you have kept the grain to a SUBTLE REPRESENTATION rather than trying to show a definitive pattern. JMHO but in my mind, scale wood is subtle just like you have represented.
RAGIII
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Thank you! ;D
That's very useful feedback - because I wasn't sure I'd got it right this time - the grain has pretty much disappeared. Once the thing is closed up it'll all be academic anyway ::) there are a few pieces of the Uschi grain decals in there - but you'd have to look with a magnifying glass to see them..
I'm just finishing the seat and HGW harness - I'll try and post some pictures later today. I know I keep banging on about the forum, but I'm enjoying my modelling so much more since I joined. I'm really enjoying taking my time and detailing - I can see now how Bo gets pleasure from his incredible attention to detail (but I'm not quite that insane yet.. ;D)
Guy
Ps the scratch builders are in another universe beyond my comprehension :o Must be incredibly satisfying though..
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Fuselage interior looks great .
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Hi,
Well, the seat's done - I haven't done a cushion, I did think about it, but ultimately, I was happy with the look of the kit seat. I'm a big fan of the HGW seatbelts - they're as good as they can be imo..
Really pleased I masked the the fuselage former joints - these are such a snug fit and, hopefully, will save a lot of effort later :)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-15.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-15.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-13.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-13.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-14.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-14.jpg.html)
Thanks again for looking,
Guy
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Congratulations so far Guy. I'm so pleased that you've kept the photographic record so that we'll all be able to call up the photos of the outstanding interior even when the fuselage halves have gone together and less can be seen.
Best wishes
Nigel
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You're doing a super job on the build, Guy. Nigel is right, take lots
of photos of your good work in the cockpit before you button up the
fuselage.
Cheer,
Ernie :)
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Hi Guy,
that is an absolutely impressive build, outstanding work on the wood grain and all the interior parts. Thanks for sharing your pics.
greetings ro
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Thanks guys ;)
Teeny update.. Cockpit almost done. Not too far off closing her up..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-16.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-16.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/224cba34-7ccf-4d53-8392-e877a39c47ef.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/224cba34-7ccf-4d53-8392-e877a39c47ef.jpg.html)
Guy
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Brilliant Guy - always worth opening one of your build posts - visually: It just pushes all my buttons.
Absolutely Beezer!
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Guy, the control stick is flipping amazing! Stunning stuff. Your Alby is going
to be brilliant if the interior is any indication. Thanks for the inspiration my
friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Beautiful work, Guy. I agree that the control column is great. Are you pretty precise with your washes or is there some other sort of alchemy at work?
Lindsay
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Nice added details Guy.
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A very fine interior. I like the colour tones, very convincing.
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i concur - the colours look fantastic.
cheers
FF
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Thanks again ;)
I should be able to get her closed up today - then the fun part can start - wood! ;D
I'll post another picture or two before she's glued..
Are you pretty precise with your washes or is there some other sort of alchemy at work?
Lindsay
Nothing special Lindsay, just a pin wash, leave for an hour, then clean up with a cotton bud ;)
Guy
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Last interior shots I promise.. ???
The engine bearers are a tricky little subsection that needs to be right to fit snugly - I took quite a long time over this - nothing worse than going to all the effort only to find the blooming fuselage doesn't fit..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-17.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-17.jpg.html)
Night all,
Guy
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Lovely. Say goodbye and close it! ;)
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Looking brilliant Guy, the cockpit is amazing and the engine really looks the part, your attention to detail is superb.
Des.
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Beautiful! The interior looks AWESOME! Excellent added details on the stick.
RAGIII
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You've built a gorgeous model there, Guy and it only gets better!
Looking forward to the start of the next phase.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Excellent work, Guy. That interior is lovely.
Cheers.
Dal.
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Awesome interior Gisbod. Very nice detail and colors.
Cheers
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Lovely interior, Guy -
A shame to have to seal it all up!
Regards
Dave
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So, closed up and first round of painting..
This is just the base layer prior to individual panels being masked and toned up or down to provide contrast, then highlights/ lowlights then an overall thin wash to tie it together (well, that's the plan anyway).
I've gone for a subtle change of shading - darker at the bottom, getting lighter towards the top - whether this survives the upcoming steps is debatable, but I thought I'd give it a go.. (I think it's called zenithal lighting?)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-18.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-18.jpg.html)
I'm trying to keep the whole thing as light as possible to let the wood effect show..
Any help welcomed! It's all a bit experimental.. :P
Cheers
Guy
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(I think it's called zenithal lighting?)
Indeed it is. ;)
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Beautiful work Guy. This Build is a pleasure to follow, looking forward to "Phase next".
Cheers,
Lance
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I'm very curious about how it will look ::) I know that it is not easy task.
Good luck.
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Well, so far it looks very convincing, Guy! I thought I was just looking at the contrast between light and shadow.
Cheers,
Bud
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On to the next stage, Guy. This is a very enjoyable build log. Good work.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Well, so far it looks very convincing, Guy! I thought I was just looking at the contrast between light and shadow.
Cheers,
Bud
Same here! Really looking forward to the wood grain tones,
RAGIII
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Thanks gentlemen ;)
Coming along now. I'm quite pleased with the base tones now - it's how I pictured it anyway. The proof of the pudding will be after I've got a decal on though.. Not quite sure what to expect! I haven't done a final glaze to tie it in yet - I think it's subtle enough already, so I'll probably leave that stage - although I'm tempted to do a slighter darker wash at the base to emphasise the Zenithal lighting effect - as predicted, my earlier efforts seem to have disappeared! ::)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/eb377ed4-1869-41f9-8c6e-4c8eda4cae9e.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/eb377ed4-1869-41f9-8c6e-4c8eda4cae9e.jpg.html)
Bo Did you clear varnish at this stage? I want to so I can do a pin wash pre decalling - I'd rather not do it post decals in case of bleeding - I did read somewhere that, unusually, the decals go on better to a less glossy finish?
Cheers
Guy
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Looks great, Guy....
Bo Did you clear varnish at this stage? I want to so I can do a pin wash pre decalling - I'd rather not do it post decals in case of bleeding - I did read somewhere that, unusually, the decals go on better to a less glossy finish?
I'm not sure, I think you are referring to one of the lozenge decals -- unless Uschi has changed his recommendation. I know the new decals are on a different carrier film. At any rate, when in doubt, experiment!
I wouldn't be afraid of applying washes after sealing the decals if necessary. Anyway, I applied my decals to a glossy surface to avoid silvering - that was my biggest concern.
To give you an idea what to expect... this is prior to applying future & decals. As you can see the shading is pretty dramatic and I have applied some pin washes:
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/file_zpse80e1bc6.jpg)
Similar angle, "after" you can get an idea of the amount of toning back the decals do; pin washes survive:
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/file_zps05c588e8.jpg)
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Thanks Bo ;)
That's helpful, I'll gloss up, then pin wash before decalling. I notice you've nailed pre decals.. I've gone for the HGW nail set - which is a decal but the decal bit peels off and leaves the nails.. So I was planning on doing this at a later stage, but they're are going to be pretty noticeable and if I look at period pictures you can hardly see them? So still undecided on that.
Guy
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I tried nail decals but rejected them as you could see the edges of the film. Instead I used a pouncing wheel to mark then going back over with a leetle bitty drill. I did this after paint and before grain decals (as you can see above).
But check out PrzemoL's under construction (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1133.0) and completed D.V (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1328.msg21055#msg21055) for really effective nails. He did his nails first, before paint, then hit them with a wash. That's how I'll do mine next time...
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;) Thanks again Bo,
Yep, that's a cracking build - the nails look really good..
Although my HGW set doesn't leave a carrier film as the top layer gets peeled off to leave the nails in situ.. Although, surprisingly, they don't come with any instructions?! So I've no idea how they work! I'll have to do a bit of experimentation - has anyone used these? I'd be grateful for any tips..
HGW 321010
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Well, the woods on.. :)
The Uschi decals are incredible - the variation (my base coat - not the decals) is probably over the top to be strictly realistic, but to be fair that was what I was after. I probably should have done the base colour generally lighter again to make it more 'plywood'. Tbh it probably looks like a cross between plywood and walnut! (The 3 lighter panels in the picture look exactly like the plywood finish I was after) but, like it or not, they certainly look like wood! ;)
I've made one booby - one of the panel's grain direction is wrong - they all should be lengthways along the fuselage (I think?) :P
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-21.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-21.jpg.html)
It's got a coat of Klear on top to seal it all in as the decals are pretty delicate. I'm going to experiment with the nails next - if they're not too over the top, then the kit decals, seal that in and that'll be the wood done..
Thanks,
Guy
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Looks fantastic! but yeah, grain should always run lengthwise -- panels were 3 ply and bent much easier in on direction than the other...
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Splendidly !
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Beautiful wood Guy! ;D I definately want to try the Uschi decals now. This is a great build!
Cheers,
Bob
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Fantastic work Guy. The one panel that runs vertically, while possibly not absolutely historically accurate, lends itself well to the overall look. It will also be partially obscured by the wings. I like the graduated pre-shaded tones; the wood grain really "pops" with that.
One thing for sure: there are enough Albie marking schemes for everyone to do a couple and never repeat!
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Brilliant work, Guy. Looks like plywood to me.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks for the encouragement - much appreciated!
The Uschi decals are going to be hard to beat for realism - I'm using 6 different pattern/tone variation sheets and combined with different shades of base coat - it gives a pretty limitless variation in wood effect. In addition to that you could double up a decal and it becomes darker and richer again..
Does anyone have a link to an Albatros nail pattern map?
Cheers
Guy
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Very, very convincing!
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Does anyone have a link to an Albatros nail pattern map?
Do you have Albatros D.V / D.Va At War Datafiles? The patterns are shown in the three views. Otherwise, scope out the TVAL repro photos and you should be able to work them out. Remember the pattern is two nails, one.screw :)
While on the subject, some food for thought-- Koloman Mayerhofer has written that uniformity of fastener pattern was not the object both on the originals and his reproductions, and in fact the patterns were (and are) rather haphazard due to the limitations of working space and glue drying time -- only so many guys can fit around a panel being fitted, and they have to completely install it in 40 minutes or so. The purpose of the nails and the screws is simply to provide clamping action while the glue is curing. Nails were placed where needed to achieve the necessary clamping force. The screws were added because they were worried the plywood would delaminate... Once cured the glue provided all the strength.
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Thanks Bo,
No, I don't have those :-\ but I'll look at the TVAL pictures as you suggest..
As for the screws - I can't see how I could differentiate between a nail & a screw? :o (I know you could..)
Guy
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Lovely job, Guy. The woodgrain is certainly a hit.
I'm looking forward to learning as you go along with
the nails.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Gisbod.
Those wood panels are amazing... very convincing wood effect.
Nicely done.
Cheers
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Very nice Albatros Guy, enjoying this build-log. :)
I like those Uschi decals, just stunning.
Happy Landings
Steven
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Thanks Steven,
I'm looking forward to putting one of your lovely wheels on! ;)
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That is one sweet ride in the making, Gisbod.
As dicussed per email, I wouldnt worry too much for the little red-ish tone. It gonna be fine when all
the details come in and it will be a very balanced model. I mean, we all have lil bit of a "personal signature"
in our pieces and we always find something we would do different on our next project, aye? I also have a learning
curve on all of my projects. Sometimes myself is the harshest critic and as long as it is like that, everything fine, because:
Those who have stopped striving for doing better, have just started to become worse. :-)
@all:
Thanks for the friendly words all you guys had regarding the product. I´m happy to see that all the month of
laborious testing, designing, re-designing and further improving obviously led to a product which is of great use
and well accepted by you, my scale modeling fellahs.
Its very motivating to keep up the pace and to not give up on striving for excellence even more.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, Y´ALL!
Alex ;)
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Thanks Alex,
The decals are top notch - I quite like the effect now.. I'm planning on an LVG next so plenty of opportunity to put my wood experience to good use!
I hope I can do them justice on the completed model..
Halfway through the nails - pleased so far - but they're very time consuming! Hope to post an update fairly soon..
Guy
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GUY,
The wood looks great! I am looking forward to seeing this with the nails and markings!
RAGIII
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Nails done ;)
This is a great little product - very effective - In these close up shots they look a little over scale and too obvious, but the pictures are magnified. From about 6 inches back - they blend in - and more so once the details and decals are added.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-20.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-20.jpg.html)
They go on like a decal then after an hour or so you can remove the top film leaving the nails in place. They're very slightly raised, but not like rivets. Not strictly right I know - but from an artistic point of view - I'm pretty pleased - definitely better than me drawing them on anyway! They are quite time consuming, and the compound curves are tricky as they come as straight lines - but I'm planning the LVG next and, believe it or not, they do a set specifically for that kit - so this should make the process a whole lot easier.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-22.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-22.jpg.html)
What do you reckon?
Thanks,
Guy
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I reckon it's beautiful, Guy. Really great effect. Makes me want to pick up an Albie just to use the decals.
Lindsay
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The nails really look good, Guy and add alot to the model. It is looking great!
Keep up the good work, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The nails look fantastic, Guy. I'll have to see if they make them in 1/48 scale.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Lindsay, Bud & Ernie.. ;)
Bud - yes they do.. They look better in the flesh than in the close ups..
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Are nail should not be yet in these locations as pointed out?
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/malutki352/Albatros%20D%20V/image-22.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/malutki352/media/Albatros%20D%20V/image-22.jpg.html)
Plywood must be nailed on each side, unless I'm wrong .
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Hi Jacek,
Not according to a plan I've come across (or pictures of the TVAL aircraft)
But logically, I would agree with you. Maybe the panels interlocked? Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge could shed some light on it?
But looking at the TVAL Alby - it has made me realise the HGW nails are over scale - maybe it would be better using 1/48 nails? :(
Guy
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Looks like you have Nailed it ::) Well somebody had to say it right! The nails certainly add to the overall look, Well done!
RAGIII
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Morning all,
Very good Rick - you're clearly wasted here on the forum.. ;D
Managed to get a few stickers on last night ;)
I'm really liking this scheme - the Wingnut decals are really top notch.
The photo etch fuselage 'furniture' is next up...
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0245.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0245.jpg.html)
Cheers
Guy
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Are nail should not be yet in these locations as pointed out?
Plywood must be nailed on each side, unless I'm wrong .
Jacek,
No, that is not how they were constructed. The plywood skin panels are joined to one another using glued scarf joints. A scarf joint is made by beveling the edges of the panels and overlapping them. The visible seams will not be directly over the structural members. The nails and screws are simply to clamp the skin to the structure while the glue sets up.
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/e151e8900a7b092bdb477d50cbaec27a_zps199ba74e.jpg)
For a complete explanation, please refer to Koloman Mayerhofers 1:1 build logs to be found on the aerodrome forum. Everything you could ever want to know about how these fuselages were constructed can be read there.
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Thanks Bo, useful information. There you go Guy, the nails are fine as they are. :)
The Alby looks great with the decals on!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Oh, my! That's nice! Love the markings, Guy.
Thanks for that info, Bo. Very useful, as usual.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you Bo for telling me, now I'm a little wiser :D
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Well done Bo ;)
I suspected you'd come through with the greater knowledge!
Here are a few more shots with the photo etch in place - I guess that really wraps up the wood now bar a light filter or two. Very pleased with the Uschi product ;D
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0251.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0251.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0253.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0253.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0257.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0257.jpg.html)
I'm hoping my Lozenge will arrive soon from Wood and Wire then I can crack on with the wings ;)
Comments welcome as usual..
Guy
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Wow! This is just beautiful Guy.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Great job, Guy :). The fuselage looks stunning! Looking forward to the lozenge bits.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I feel the need to build a second Albie! Looks fantastic -I was too scared to use the nails on my first one, but seeing the results and with the wood decals... brillent
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Guy,
That really is stunning! The wood decals and nails are making this all look very realistic.
Good luck with the rest of your build, mate.
Regards
Dave
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Hi Justin,
Very good job, superb plywood. Tomorow I send Lozenge.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Thanks Vladimir,
But make sure you send it to me and not Justin! ;D
Cheers
Guy ;)
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Sorry Guy... :)
But Lozenge for you is in envelope. :)
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Wow... what a beauty Guy!
Love those plywood panels with the nails. Superb stuff. :o
Cheers
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Evening gents,
As I'm waiting for the lozenge to come through, I'd thought I'd have a bash at a figure - not my forte, not at all confident, but he can always go in the bin at the end! :-[
Modelkasten figure (very nice I think).
I'm following LarsaQ's 'how to' thread with interest (copying basically..) ::)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0266.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0266.jpg.html)
Although I have started a little differently. It's my intention to use Humbrol oils, but I thought a base coat of acrylics wouldn't do any harm, and I've tried to give it a little depth to kick off the effect. Grey primer out of a rattle can, followed by a base coat airbrushed on of black, followed by 3, gradually lightening, shades of grey misted over from above. All the painting up until now is by airbrush, just masking the different areas for the browns and flesh. I quite like it so far, but know that I'll probably like it less and less and it progresses!
Bear in mind, this is just the base coat so far. Oils next up.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0260.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0260.jpg.html)
I don't promise to post the finished article!
Cheers
Guy
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Hi
That's looking really good, I just love it, keep the pics coming my friend.
LarsaQ
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Guy,
The figure is coming along quite well! As for the Bin, the nice thing about figures is that you simply Strip the paint and start again! No struts, rigging, etc. to re-do ::)
RAGIII
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Hi
That's looking really good, I just love it, keep the pics coming my friend.
LarsaQ
Thanks LarsaQ - and thanks for your painting figures thread - I probably wouldn't have started it if I didn't have your guidance..
Guy,
The figure is coming along quite well! As for the Bin, the nice thing about figures is that you simply Strip the paint and start again! No struts, rigging, etc. to re-do ::)
RAGIII
Good point Rick - I may well end up taking your tip.. ::)
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Ps
Does anyone have any guidance on the colours for lapels, piping, badges etc?
There seems to be one on his arm (just above his elbow in the picture), but I don't know what that would be?
Thanks
Guy
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Good start on the figure painting, Guy. Good on you for jumping in
with both feet!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Maybe this will help a little bit with the figure:
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/wwi-german-pilots-uniforms.35438/
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/aviation-history-general/imperial-german-enlisted-pilot-uniform-13810/
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Thanks Filip...good resourses for uniform colours/markings.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks ;)
Maybe this will help a little bit with the figure:
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/wwi-german-pilots-uniforms.35438/
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/aviation-history-general/imperial-german-enlisted-pilot-uniform-13810/
Thanks Filip, that's very helpful.
It's inspired me to do a bit more digging on google and I came up with this:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-23.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-23.jpg.html)
"The insignia on the sleeve indicates that he was a member of Kampfstaffel 6 (Kasta 6) of Kampfgeschwader I Obersten Heeres Leitung (Kagohl 1). A pilots badge is absent from his tunic, or possibly obscured by this arm. He was certainly part of a bomber crew."
What did people do before the Internet! ???
Guy
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Ps
Any ideas on the colours of the badge?
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Ps
Any ideas on the colours of the badge?
Gooing by other figures from Martin Hille/Kellerkind, and looking at the red Eagle on the shoulder I would go with white badge/red letter/number.
RAGIII
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That looks like a dress, or parade uniform, judging from the fancy cuffs, and piping at the collar.
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That Albie is a beautiful bit of work, Guy. The figure looks good as well, it will be an interesting paint job. Sorry, no idea about the uniform details.
Dal.
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Afternoon all,
Well, I've done my best :o figures are so hard! it's a different challenge altogether..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0284.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0284.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0282.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0282.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/d0da1b0d-8744-46ba-b885-8b36c4f7a018.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/d0da1b0d-8744-46ba-b885-8b36c4f7a018.jpg.html)
Steep learning curve - Critiques very welcome.. ;)
Guy
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Guy,
I've never done a figure however to my eye this one looks excellent, great detail and the shading/contrast makes it very convincing. It should nicely compliment your spectacular Albie, great work all round!
Cheers,
Lance
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I must say that the figure looks great! DO NOT STRIP IT! You have done extremely well on the figure and posed with your excellent Albie this is a WINNER!
RAGIII
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I agree with RAGIII it looks great! Just leave it looks mighty fine!
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simply stunning figure work
michael
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The figure looks awesome. The uniform it's very nice, i like all those title details in it... and i like the shoes, they look so natural.
Nice one Gisbod.
Cheers
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Guy you should be proud of yourself. You have done a superb job on the
figure. If I could do even close to that I would be truly pleased!
Well done, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie
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Thank you ;)
It's just that when you see the figures of the experts - I just can't see how they get such an amazing finish ??? The detail on such a small canvas is incredible.. Oh well..
I enjoyed the diversion anyhow.
Spandaus & lozenge to come..
Guy
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Beautiful figure painting, fitting very well to the Albatros. Congratulations!
Stefan
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Astonishing work, Guy! If my first attempt at figure painting turned out so splendidly, I'd be chuffed beyond words.
Cheers,
Bud
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Guy wrote:[quoteIt's just that when you see the figures of the experts....][/quote] I've been saying that for years now! You've done a very credible job on the wee man. I don't see any touch-ups, and my thought would be to call him finished. There are plenty more WWI figgys out there for you to work on, and each will get a little better.
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I agree with the above opinions, this figure looks lovely.
Adam.
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Thank you again,
I don't normally like doing bases, but if I've got a figure I'm thinking I ought to..
Can anyone recommend a simple, but effective ready made grass (or otherwise) base?
Thanks
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Hello again,
Little more progress to report as I've done the Spandaus - I found these sooo much easier having copied Bo's technique of masking tape to hold the ends in place then gluing with thin CA..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0293.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0293.jpg.html)
Which has allowed me to do a little more construction whilst waiting for the lozenge..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0297.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0297.jpg.html)
Guy
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Beautiful job on the Spandau, Guy! I can't wait for your lozenge
to get to you. You are on the road to a marvelous model!
I envy your talent, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hello Guy:
The figure looks fantastic! The model he is standing by looks pretty good alright as well. Looking forward to seeing you progress with this. Like has been mentioned before, lots of figures to paint and each one will be better. The one you are working is the best one you have done to date.
Best
Mark
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The Spandaus are AWESOME and look great in place!! The figure looks excellent standing next to your Beautiful Albatros fuselage!
RAGIII
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Still ticking along..
I'm loving the wooden prop from Doug.. Don't think I can make another kit without one of these again ::)
And of course, the beautiful spoked wheel speaks for itself ;D I've opted to go with the rubber wheels this time as I like them so much - they will be weathered with pigments to tone down the 'blackness'..
It doesn't show particularly in this photo, but I've tried to make the chipping to the spinner as subtle as possible..
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Thanks for looking
Guy
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Hi Guy,
very nice progress and details.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Hello all,
Thanks to Vladimir, I've managed to finally get my sticky mitts on the latest Lozenge set for the Alby..
So hot off the press..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/image-24.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/image-24.jpg.html)
Beautiful lozenge to my eye.. ;)
I feel I'm finally getting on to the home stretch now. Just really major components to go together and rigging.
I've just decided to go to this years Scale Model World at Telford, and I've provisionally entered the Alby, Pfalz and Snipe into the competition, not to really compete, but it will be nice to see them alongside the top models and hopefully get some idea of the standard for future years.. I'm taking a couple of my 1/48th armour too. I'm really looking forward to the whole occasion :D I've been saving up my pennies! Does anyone know if Wingnuts are represented there this year? Any chance of the new kits being for sale!?
Anyone else taking models along?
Regards
Guy
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Wonderful job on the lozenge, Guy! It really looks splendid. Your choice of the wire wheels
and the propeller will only enhance your modelling skills on the Alby. Good luck at Telford, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Your Lozenge application looks fantastic! I am looking forward to seeing the wings on the airframe!
RAGIII
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Excellent, Guy! That Wood & Wire lozenge is fantastic. I'm using it on my Halberstadts and the D.VII. Between Aviattic and W&W, we're spoilt for choices.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you..
Yes, the lozenge certainly looks real to me.
The more eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed the left upper wing ribs aren't quite aligned with the decal.. I'd just like to point out - that's my error and not the lozenge.. No matter how hard I try - there're always errors at the end of the model! :P
Guy
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The lozenge decals look superb Guy, I have looked pretty hard and can't see the error you pointed out. The propeller, wheel and spinner are all excellent and will add to the model beautifully, and your figure painting is beyond words.
Des.
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Ah, thanks Des,
That's very encouraging ;)
Guy
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I always feel like a kid when i'm coming here. Thinking "hey, let me see what those guys pulled out today!"
Very convencing parts Guy. Amazing stuff!
Cheers
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Just started rigging.
I don't know if it's me, but when the top wing goes on there's a slight gap between the struts and the top wing at both ends - no problem - just gently squeeze together and glue - sorted. But halfway through rigging, for no apparent reason, the left side just popped apart breaking the strut in 2 places! @*#%*! I've repaired it, but that with all the blobs of superglue stuck to the model - I can see my chance of 'best in show' slowly drifting away.. ;D
Perhaps I should stick to tanks? :P
Why do I always have at least one major disaster per model... Does everyone have that?
Oh well..
Guy
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only one? I can only dream.....
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only one? I can only dream.....
;D
Glad it's not just me then!
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Just started rigging.
I don't know if it's me, but when the top wing goes on there's a slight gap between the struts and the top wing at both ends - no problem - just gently squeeze together and glue - sorted. But halfway through rigging, for no apparent reason, the left side just popped apart breaking the strut in 2 places! @*#%*! I've repaired it, but that with all the blobs of superglue stuck to the model - I can see my chance of 'best in show' slowly drifting away.. ;D
Perhaps I should stick to tanks? :P
Why do I always have at least one major disaster per model... Does everyone have that?
Oh well..
Guy
Can't speak for the better modelers here, but yes at least one. Right now I am dealing with having dropped the fairing for the instrument that sticks up through the coaming between the Machine guns on my WNW DVII. I have Literally crawled and searched my entire floor and NO PART! This isn't a tiny part either!
RAGIII
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Tell me about it - I found my Fokker propellor just after I finished the replacement and I've already lost the Alby's windscreen somewhere... ???
I've dismantled my workbench looking for it..
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I have at least one supernatural phenomena like disappearance per build and often they never turn up again. That, along with just plain old disasters keeps the project interesting!
Cheers,
Lance
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There has to be a way to fix this...I'm totally fed up crawling around the
better part of an hour looking for something that should be where
I figured it landed. No luck as yet. I love this hobby! ;) ;D
Guy, with your talent, I really don't worry. You will surmount this little
bump in the road. Keep at it, my friend. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks Ernie ;)
Yes, when I find a part that's pinged off - it's always about 6 feet from where I was convinced it landed.. ::)
Repaired now.. just a couple of light seams in the strut - once I've slapped some paint on, it isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared..
Guy
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A very nice build, any potential disasters notwithstanding. If I could get down to 1 disaster per I'd be pretty happy. This is a solid build with lots of nice detail.
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Afternoon all,
All done I think ;)
Plus points on the build are Steven's spoked wheel, Doug's wooden prop, Vladimir's lozenge, HGW seatbelts and of course Uschi's lovely wood decals :D
I didn't use the resin manifold as I ended up preferring the kit one. The Gaspatch turnbuckles (in conjunction with Bob's of course ;)) were very good, however, I was a little disappointed with the Gaspatch anemometer - looks good - but it seems to me to be over scale - compared to the photograph of the original - it looks at least 50% too big - and as a result didn't look right on the wing so I left it off.
Losing the windscreen did me a favour as I scratched one with very thin perspex which looks far more to scale against period pictures. The kit one looks like armoured plate glass in comparison (obviously, I found the original windscreen just as I'd fitted the new one..).
I ended up replacing the broken strut in the end as it broke again.. ::) the kit comes with a set of unused D.v struts so I modified one of those - as I've said - I always seem to get a major catastrophe with the top wing at some point! :o
But, as always with Wingnuts, a hugely enjoyable build - and a much longer one than I usually do, but all the more satisfying as a result.. :D
I'll post up a set of pictures shortly in the completed models section.
Thanks for all your help & encouragement along the way - still undecided on my next build..
Cheers
Guy
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Albatros/IMG_0317.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Albatros/IMG_0317.jpg.html)
Edit.. Forgot to mention the HGW nail heads.. They're over scale - but I think they blend into the model really well - they don't stand out as being wrong and certainly add a lot of detail to the overall look - so I'd definitely recommend them :)
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Guy,
It's been an absolute pleasure following you through this Build. You've put a tremendous amount of work and time into this one, and it shows! Beautiful Sir, just beautiful, and I wish you all the "Best" at Telford. Looking forward to your Completed Model photos, and this Thread will be used in future. You can never have enough Albies! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Whow! What a stunning Albi!
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Thanks guys ;)
Here's a link to the completed build pictures..
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2545.0
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Absolutely brilliant, Guy! Sincerest congratulations. Headin' over to completed models now.
Cheers,
Bud
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Congratulations :)
Your plane is superb
I am trying to make one, but I chose to do it in a condition of use, so dirty
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Beautiful model, Guy! One to be proud of.
Thank you for sharing this stunner!
Cheers,
Ernie :)