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Title: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 11, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
Hello all,

Just thinking ahead to a future project..

Does anyone have any experience of the wood & wire or HGW or Uschi van der Rosten wood decals? Generally, the examples I've seen (to my eye) look a little too much like wood and not plywood (in comparison with period photos on, say, an albatros for example?)

I'd be interested to hear of anyone's experiences/build logs/thoughts on these or any similar products?

Thanks for looking

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Rob Hart on August 11, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
I have not used either, but both decals look very convincing on the completed models I have seen. I suggest scrolling through the completed models to view examples. One I can name off the top of my head is miamingler's Lloyd C.V. I think Coyotemagic used some on his Albatros C.III too.
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 13, 2013, 12:26:37 AM
Thanks Rob,

I'll look through..

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 13, 2013, 05:31:48 AM

Hi RB,

That's great, just what I needed to know.. I wanted a very pale plywood look and not the standard 'orange' wood so I guess it's the Uschi ones..

Have you any photos/threads with them in action?

Thanks

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: uncletony on August 13, 2013, 05:54:49 AM
Alex (Uschi) has a new product that promises to be even more plywood-y.

This is not as pale as you want, but I think illustrates how transparent these Uschi decals are:

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/file_zps333b6ad8.jpg)

(Rear panels decaled, front panels still just underpainting)
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 13, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
Wow!

That's brilliant Bo.. That's very realistic

Uschi it will be then...

Thanks

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 13, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
Ps..

Bo - I've just seen Alex's build thread for his LVG and blimey - it's incredible! That's just what I was after - thanks

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: uncletony on August 13, 2013, 10:12:01 PM
Thanks Guy -- here's a link to the "new stuff" WGSF-48

http://www.uschivdr.com/products/wgsf-48c-fine-veneer-plywood/
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 14, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
Yep, thanks Bo..

I've just been looking at that.. Which is leading me towards an Albatros, it was either that or the Roland. But it may still depend on what W&W are bringing out in aircraft specific lozenge as it's my new favourite thing.

Guy
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: kornbeef on August 14, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
I believe W&W are doing wood decaling too, not 100% sure but. If not I'd be surprised. Uschi's does look rather exceptional though.
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: coyotemagic on August 14, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
Guy, I know you're more interested in 1/32 scale, but this is what the 1/48 HGW cookie cutter set looks like on the model.  I went with the translucent style and used preshading and filters for the desired effect.  I was pretty happy with them.

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Oeffag%20DII%20conversion/DSC01493.jpg)

The only Uschi decals I've use so far is the first generation stuff.  Used it on my Albatros C.III.

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Albatros%20CIII%20project/DSC00548.jpg)

They went on beautifully and, with a dark filter, looked the part.  My last two "wood" fuselages were done with oils, but I plan on doing an Albatros D type soon using Uschi's newest offering.  I really like the stuff.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: uncletony on August 14, 2013, 10:45:19 AM
One final comment-- my noob mistake with the Uschi decals was not compensating enough for the effects of future and the decals, both having a darkening effect. My fuselage ended up being about 10% darker than I intended. It doesn't bother me; it looks fantastic to me in RL, but it's not really correct. Live and learn...
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: coyotemagic on August 14, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
One final comment-- my noob mistake with the Uschi decals was not compensating enough for the effects of future and the decals, both having a darkening effect. My fuselage ended up being about 10% darker than I intended. It doesn't bother me; it looks fantastic to me in RL, but it's not really correct. Live and learn...
I think it's perfect, Bo!  Doesn't take long for the harsh conditions of war to darken wood.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Wood decal questions
Post by: Gisbod on August 14, 2013, 05:01:57 PM
Bud - beautiful models! And the wood finish looks spot on..

Bo - yes, I tend to get caught out with that.. I never seem to learn that lesson - even on the fuselage of my Fokker - I deliberately made it a lot lighter than I intended for that reason, but the Future/Klear has once again darkened it further than I'd like..

Thanks for the input though..

Guy