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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Gilly on August 01, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
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Hopefully a phoenix will arise from the ashes that the postie brought me a while back, before I commenced building WW1 I tried supplementing my diecast WW1's with a built Albatros D.III.
Alas it was not to be as all that I received of this lovely and very well built model from a very well packaged parcel was a model in bits. All struts detached, rigging every where and all wing sections detached. This first pic is after I started preparing the wing sections, removing wing decals , rubbing down the painted surfaces, cleaning up , attaching wing securing pins made from appropriate sized paper clips and priming.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00306_zps819453bb.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00306_zps819453bb.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00303_zps153c61e9.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00303_zps153c61e9.jpg.html)
Engine masked (unfortunately it is loose and I can not retrieve it without opening up the fuselage) MG's removed, rigging and wing mounting holes drilled and redrilled, undercarriage reattached , cockpit stuffed with tissue , lightly abraded and primed.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00307_zpsbfcd0a92.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00307_zpsbfcd0a92.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00309_zps0b463e5e.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00309_zps0b463e5e.jpg.html)
and this is where we stand at the moment folks, decals already sourced and on the desk :). next up some pre-shading using the graphite pencil method.
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Sorry she arrived so battered, Gilly. At least now you can make her your own. This will be excellent rigging practice for you, as well.
Cheers,
Bud
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Terrible luck with the disassembled condition. On the other hand like Bud said now you are making it your own! The repairs look great!!
RAGIII
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Thank you Bud and RagIII, it was a great shame to see such a lovely model in such a state, however it did give me the opportunity to inspect certain methods and techniques a little closer in preparation for my pfalz build than if she had been intact. So every cloud has a silver lining :).
I do look forward to making this my own now and as you say Bud the rigging practice will stand me in good stead, I think I will use turnbuckles for this one and see how it turns out. I will be relying a great deal on builds in the forum to base my rigging on as I can not locate a copy of the windsock datafile for the Albatros D.III for a reasonable price anywhere :(. So I need to spend some time collating rigging info for this aircraft before I dive in. If anyone does have a link to a site with diagrams I would be most grateful.
Thanks again folks
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I think Bobs Buckles has a diagram showing 3 methods of using Turnbuckles and attachment points. Also check out Des's builds on the home page. He is a Master. IHTH,
RAGIII
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I think Bobs Buckles has a diagram showing 3 methods of using Turnbuckles and attachment points. Also check out Des's builds on the home page. He is a Master. IHTH,
RAGIII
Thanks for the info RagIII, very much appreciated.
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It already looks as though you are putting your stamp on this model, a good start, don't be put off by the rigging, after the first 2 or 3 'wires' it does get easier.
Cheers
Pete.
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Thanks Pete, much appreciated.
Latest on this little project, which unfortunately is progressing at snails pace :(
Fuselage sprayed with Mrhobby flat black with just a hint of purple, turnbuckles secured in prep for the rigging process ahead. Wing lower surfaces sprayed using misterkit Acrylic Albatros blue, prop base coat sand , masked and sprayed with a red brown sand mix, still need to finish with clear orange.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00323_zps54e06106.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00323_zps54e06106.jpg.html)
Wing upper surfaces masked and sprayed using Misterkit Acrylics Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Light Green and Albatros Green, unfortunately my hard demarcation lines were too hard and I experienced bleed through :(, however a recovery is being made and they will be fine with a little TLC
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00382_zps9c8ec0cc.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00382_zps9c8ec0cc.jpg.html)
Thats all for now folks, next up tidy up those wings and tailplane, another coat on the fuselage , Klear the lot, decals and then start to rebuild her.
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After the disappointment beginning this journey you are making very good
progress, Gilly. Keep up the good work.
Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The model appears to be coming along nicely. That is about the tidiest work area I have seen. Mine looks like the inside of a dumpster in comparison.
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The model appears to be coming along nicely. That is about the tidiest work area I have seen. Mine looks like the inside of a dumpster in comparison.
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Nice progress! By the way, if their was a competition for the messiest, dirtiest, most cluttered work area, I think I would win
RAGIII
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Thank you for all the kind comments , they are very much appreciated. With reference the work space, am afraid its a case of OCD :-[ , combined with being ex navy and everything has to be stowed away just in case we hit roughers ;D.
Still slow progress am afraid folks and a tad dissapointing, again my old enemy decals :'(. I had purchased at what I thought was a very good price ,the Superscale 1/48 sheet Albatros D-III Jasta 10 & Jasta 30 48-599 to do this rebuild and it was not until I had secured the white wing crosses did I realise that the black inners the accompanying literature referred to were not on the sheet, along with a few more of the decals ::), therefore I assume that there should be a second sheet to this set , however in the product listing it shows only one, so a big mystery as to where the missing decals are ???. Has any one ever used this set and found the same or am I just unlucky :-\. Also the fuselage comet and tail just looks too bright for me and I feel makes the model toy like :-X
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00051_zps58e861bb.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00051_zps58e861bb.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00012_zps20b22a02.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00012_zps20b22a02.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00010_zps6fe0239e.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00010_zps6fe0239e.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00008_zps45a59269.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00008_zps45a59269.jpg.html)
However in the best traditions of us folks I dragged out spare decals from my Pfalz build and found two black inner crosses, unfortunately badly cracked but after some time consuming application I achieved a save, just a little touching up to do on the evident cracks.
Guns and exhaust now in place. I now need to attack the weathering and do something about the glaring comet ???. Any handy hints on weathering and shading of all black would be much appreciated folks, indeed any help and comments regarding the rebuild so far and where I could improve would be greatly appreciated.
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You are doing a marvelous job on this model Gilly, the painting and decals application looks very good, can't see where you had issues with the top wing decals, you pulled off a great save. Some of our weathering experts will pipe in and help you out with your question, keep up the good work, it's looking great.
Des.
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She's coming together brilliantly, Gilly. Gorgeous paint and decal work.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you for your very kind comments Des & Bud, they are as always very much appreciated.
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Hey, nice scheme!
Nice to see a diferent paint job! Can't see any cracks on the decals!
It's all coming together real nice. Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers
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Hey, nice scheme!
Nice to see a diferent paint job! Can't see any cracks on the decals!
It's all coming together real nice. Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers
Thank you for your very kind comments Zabu. The cracks are only on the inner black crosses of the upper wings, all other decals were from the superscale sheet and were very easy to fix , unfortunately there were no inner black crosses on the sheet ???so I had to employ a pair of old and fragile black crosses from my previous Pfalz build which with some cursing and gentle persuasion finally fitted to an acceptable standard, I just need to finely touch up the imperfections and then its some weathering, shading and assembly time ;D. have a new toy to use for assembly , the JHmodels wooden jig so am looking forward to this stage.
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Gilly,
A unique scheme coming along very nicely; she'll be a standout when completed. I'd be very interested in seeing some illustrations of the Jig you refer to. I've got a metal version (Aeroclub) and, although it works well, it is very "finicky" to set up and use. Keep at this one, it's looking very good.
Cheers,
Lance
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Gilly,
A unique scheme coming along very nicely; she'll be a standout when completed. I'd be very interested in seeing some illustrations of the Jig you refer to. I've got a metal version (Aeroclub) and, although it works well, it is very "finicky" to set up and use. Keep at this one, it's looking very good.
Cheers,
Lance
Thank you for your kind comments Lance, they are very much appreciated.
I still have the jig all flatpacked from shipping so I will add some pics to this thread of a start to finish build of the jig as well as it in action during the assembly phase of the Albatros.
kind regards
Mark
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Hello, Gilly -
Sorry, dropping in late here.
The work your are doing on your Albie looks excellent - nice choice of colour scheme/markings. Good luck with the rest of your build.
Regards
Dave
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Hello, Gilly -
Sorry, dropping in late here.
The work your are doing on your Albie looks excellent - nice choice of colour scheme/markings. Good luck with the rest of your build.
Regards
Dave
Thank you for your kind comments Dave, they are very much appreciated.
A quick update as I finally got myself a little time to build the JH Models Jig I intend to use for the rest of this project and all future builds.
It took a couple of hours to go from this:-
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00008_zps1f2ccff8.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00008_zps1f2ccff8.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00010_zps0dfca018.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00010_zps0dfca018.jpg.html)
to this:-
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00046_zpsbeed5cab.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00046_zpsbeed5cab.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00042_zpsa282879c.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00042_zpsa282879c.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00038_zpsb1767b1f.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/JH%20Models%20Jig/DSC00038_zpsb1767b1f.jpg.html)
This excellent tool will be perfect for my needs, it came flat packed and reminded me of the Balsa models we used to get as kids, the pieces pushed out from their cutouts easily (after using a new blade to cut the small lugs) and were well machined and good fitting, the only problem I had was I was a couple of nuts short (story of my life) but a quick trip to the toolbox soon rectified that little problem.
I took photos for each step of the construction and have placed them at this link for your perusal:-
http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/library/JH%20Models%20Jig
I am really pleased with it and look forward to putting it to good use.
Now at last I can get round to finishing this little project.
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Now that's a handy little rig, Gilly. It should be of great help for all your
1/48 builds. As for the Albatros, she looks absolutely stunning! Well done!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Please tell me - where did you get that rig?
Stefan
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Now that's a handy little rig, Gilly. It should be of great help for all your
1/48 builds. As for the Albatros, she looks absolutely stunning! Well done!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thank you Ernie, your kind comments are very much appreciated.
Kind regards
Mark
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Please tell me - where did you get that rig?
Stefan
Good Evening Stefan, I was lucky enough to pick this up at Arrow Wolf Scale Models and accessories , just checked and they still have stock, link is as follows :-
http://www.arrow-wolf.com/product/jh-models-148th-124th-scale-building-and-painting-jig-bi-plane/
They had none in stock when I first enquired about them but were good enough to contact me when a new shipment was on its way from JHModels in the Czech Republic.
I hope that helps,
Kind regards Mark
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Almost there :). All main components assembled, just some shading, weathering, rigging and finish the upper wing radiator (need to work on some sprue for that) and then the finishing coats and we are there :).
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00067_zps26f6497c.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00067_zps26f6497c.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00068_zpsb84bdd9a.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00068_zpsb84bdd9a.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00069_zps448f9b69.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00069_zps448f9b69.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00070_zpsddb882da.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00070_zpsddb882da.jpg.html)
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad21/Gillyf45/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00071_zpsc8a831c4.jpg) (http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Gillyf45/media/Albatros%20DIII%20J%20Von%20Bertrab/DSC00071_zpsc8a831c4.jpg.html)
Now the big question is what shall I do next :-\
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What to do next Gilly? Keep at it...you've done a first-rate job up to now.
By the way, I like the off set rudder. Nice touch.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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That's brilliant, Gilly. I haven't seen that scheme before, it's very eye-catching. What looked to be a disaster, when you got the model delivered, has turned into a really nice model.
Cheers.
Dal.
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Just to bring this thread to a close folks, having forgotten all about it to be honest, all the hard work and effort was to no avail :'( . Following a house move, which the model negotiated unscathed it suffered significant damage from mr nobody placing a pair of shoes on it :'( :'(. The response I had from she who must be obeyed was "oh well, you will have to build it again :o. So I gathered together all the pieces, boxed them and put them away, perhaps this model was never destined to be finished. If I do attempt her again, there will have to be a significant amount of drilling and pinning to replace all the damaged joints.