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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Gisbod on June 22, 2013, 03:39:29 AM
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Hello All,
I've only just joined (see the introduction forum), but I was keen to start a build log, having not done one before. Hopefully to show some of my techniques and to learn some of yours!
This is the WNW (Early) Snipe - It's an absolute beaut! Not a huge amount of parts compared to some of the others - which is encouraging.. ;)
I was really keen on this colour scheme:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-3.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-3.jpg.html)
I had the silver grey grey scheme on my Pfalz which I really enjoyed and I'm keen to do something similar on the Snipe:
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Pfalz%20DIII/P1010442.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Pfalz%20DIII/P1010442.jpg.html)
I've made a brief start.. I love doing the wood - but the drawback is the drying time! I have added a medium to speed up the drying process so hopefully that will help. Please feel free to post feedback! I'm always keen to improve my models..
Thanks for looking :D
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-1.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-1.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image.jpg.html)
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The wood grain looks fantastic, Guy. The use of oils really does require a bit of patience.
That Pfalz of yours is truly stunning. The weathering is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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Crikey - you look as though you might be good at this??
I'll add you to my watch list! Along with everyone else.
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Ah great. I love a Snipe. Great strt. How do you mix up your silver?
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Thanks ;D
The silver is straight Vallejo model air Aluminium. I can't get too excited about the interior metals as the opening is fairly small and you can't tell the difference once the model is finished - well, I can't anyway! I am a big fan of Alclad metallics though - I would use these on any exterior metalwork as they are very realistic but they do require a fair bit of experimentation to get right. But it's worth the effort. I made a Tamiya Thunderbolt last year, purely to practice using Alclad
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/1%2048%20Thunderbolt/IMG_2331.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/1%2048%20Thunderbolt/IMG_2331.jpg.html)
Am I allowed to post WW2 here?! >:(
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Excellent start on the Snipe Gisbod, your skills in modeling are quite evident not only with the Snipe but the pfalz as well, the Pfalz is beautiful.
As this is primarily a WW1 aircraft model forum I try to restrict WW2 subjects to the Time to Relax board, but in this case you have used the model as an example of your painting so I will leave it in your topic, BTW, great paint job on the Thunderbolt.
Des.
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A beautiful Pfalz and your work on the Snipe so fat is outstanding.
RAGIII
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I'll be interested in watching this build as I'm trying to finish up my early snipe. Working on the tail section rigging :'( ............. WOW, a lot of it ................. VERY fiddley. Will be watching how you handle it. :o
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fantastic start i love the woodgrain - very nice :)
and the thunderbolt looks stunning
michael
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Great intro, fantastic stuff, looks like we have a ringer ;)
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You are off to a great start. Looks like you have
no trouble at all with the woodgrain. Nice to see
you on the boards. Thanks for sharing your work.
Best Regards,
Ernie
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Yes indeed, your Pfalz is a beauty. I'll be watching this thread with interest as I have an early Snipe lined up for my next project.
Cheers,
Chris
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Guess I'll have to finally get a Snipe. This is the scheme that caught my eye. You've definitely got my attention on this one. I'll be watching! Thanks for your contribution. I've have taken so many notes and learned numerous techniques that make this group effort very rewarding.
Off on a shopping spree and then to the bench!
Rick
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I love the Pfalz, I'm building one at the moment and if it turns out anywhere near as nice I'll be more than happy.
I'm planning on doing a late Snipe when I finally get that one finished as well so I'll be following this with interest.
Tom
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Love your Snipe scheme choice. The Pfalz and T-bolt are proof you'll do it justice!!
Steve
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Gisbod, What paint did you use for the Pfalz? I've been trying to come up with a good Silbergau but haven't had any luck. Is that Misterkit brand?
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Stunning work so far. What's the "medium" you mention that speeds up the drying time for the oils as this is an issue for me too?
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Thanks guys :)
I've definitely picked the right forum.. Everyone is so friendly & helpful. I'm amazed I've only just stumbled across it. I've been looking through the builds and the standards are incredibly high. I read through a couple from the scratchbuilds section and - wow! :o Ridiculously good.. Just don't know how they do it.
The oil drying medium is 'Winsor & Newton Liquin' - it really does work - makes the drying times a day or two and not weeks!
My finish on the Pfalz was just a mix of a Vallejo grey (can't remember which one I used) and aluminium. I recall the mix was about 70/30 grey to aluminium, but in retrospect I would have made it 50/50 as it just looks grey to be honest - I was really after a more definite silver.. I remember reading an extract from 'Flying Fury' or 'Sagittarius Rising' about a silver Pfalz flashing in the sunlight..
Having said that, I may make the Snipe more grey again, maybe just grey, as Wingnuts say its a light doped finish - possibly silver - which at least gives me some artistic licence..
I'll post a cockpit update shortly.
Guy
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Little bit more done on the cockpit.. Just needs to be assembled and control wires added.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-2.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-2.jpg.html)
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Nice clean looking cockpit!
Cheers,
Chris
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Some including me use Alclad white aluminium to reproduce the siler dopped finish of inetrwar RAF a/c. Here's my Flycatcher
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/GrahamT/DSC00047_zpsd48aa838.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GrahamT/media/DSC00047_zpsd48aa838.jpg.html)
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Guy,
Your cockpit and woodwork are excellent work! I too have this kit in the "to do" lineup, I'll be following your progress closely.
Cheers,
Lance
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Excellent work - and nice Flycatcher Graham.
Steve
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Thanks Graham, but I'm leaning towards a pale grey dope...
The cockpit is finished now - here are a few pics.. The seat belts are the HGW fabric ones - very nice.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-4.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-4.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-5.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-5.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-6.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-6.jpg.html)
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Ps I did a close up shot of the instrument panel and realised the gauges are all either upside down or skew whiff!
I'm getting old.. :-\
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Beautiful Interior! I am tempted to do this kit next, even more so seeing yours!!
RAGIII
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The interior looks superb Gisbod, very well done. (I don't think anyone will even notice the instrument guages being a bit skew whiff)
Des.
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Thanks..
Des - your scratch built Voisin & Taube are simply amazing! I'd hate to think how long you must have spent on those..
Guy
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If you can even see the instruments, let alone the fact they are upside down, youre not getting old!
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Very fine work on the interior. The wooden element look very real!
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Quick update.. Pre shading completed - next will be a thinned top layer - which will be the tricky bit as I need to get the level of opacity just right to achieve a subtle finish..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-8.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-8.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/b2e10dc7-7f59-4d23-af45-e186a1c60159.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/b2e10dc7-7f59-4d23-af45-e186a1c60159.jpg.html)
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Looking forward to seeing how that preshading works out for you!
LT
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Looking forward to seeing how that preshading works out for you!
LT
Me too!
RAGIII
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Bit more progress today :D
Got all the colours on and a coat of Klear - so decals next up, then weathering (bit too bright at the mo!)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-7.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-7.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-9.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-9.jpg.html)
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Wow! This is going to be an eye-catching Snipe.
Great job. Looking forward to more progress shots.
Cheers.
Ernie
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Hello Gisbod:
I too have this in the stash. I like the way you are doing this. It is very attractive and you have achieved a very realistic finish. I like your T-bolt work as well. As you know, once you get the top wing on the instruments will probably not be noticed that they are askew! It will be neat to see this completed. It is a scheme I have contemplated and yours is truly outstanding.
Best
Mark
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Well, I was so impressed with this I bit the bullet - logged onto Wingnuts and ordered myself one. Snaffled a few off the 'bay but this is a first to order from source - I'll have to see how it pans out fiscally. Of course this way I get exactly what I want as opposed to what's available that no one else wants!! - I know what I mean?
Great job by the way - I am following along avidly.
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Guy,
I must have missed this one while on vacation. Late to the party or not,Outstanding work my friend. Top notch construction and paintwork. I'm very impressed with your painting of the wood grain,Outstanding job. Keep up the grand works.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
PS: Outstanding P-47 as well. Love that Alclad!
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Great looking barber pole!!! Very sharp work. Im looking forward to the next update.
Steve
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Thank you for yr kind comments.. It helps push the build along!
Well, I was so impressed with this I bit the bullet - logged onto Wingnuts and ordered myself one. Snaffled a few off the 'bay but this is a first to order from source - I'll have to see how it pans out fiscally. Of course this way I get exactly what I want as opposed to what's available that no one else wants!! - I know what I mean?
Great job by the way - I am following along avidly.
Andi - I'm pleased you like it - I did order from Wingnuts for the first few, but it takes a few weeks to arrive & you do occasionally get stung for the customs payment which makes it not too far short of buying it direct from Hannants (UK) (which I did for the Snipe) and it arrives the next day.. You can also arrange to pick up from the Hannants at the RAF Museum at Hendon and then you pay no postage & you get an additional 10% discount on the kit price.
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Great color tones, crisp masking and beautiful overall finish! Keep up the fine work. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Looking very nice.
I may be off to the RAF museum on friday so hopefully I'll get to see the full size version.
Tom
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You won't regret that Tom, it's my favourite place ;D
The Snipe is a cracker with an original engine.. I said I was doing a project on it and they let me inside the ropes and I got loads of great detail pictures like this one...
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-11.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-11.jpg.html)
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Wow! Nice picture.
I do like Hendon, it's a while since I was there last so the Snipe will be new to me.
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Well, I was so impressed with this I bit the bullet - logged onto Wingnuts and ordered myself one. Snaffled a few off the 'bay but this is a first to order from source - I'll have to see how it pans out fiscally. Of course this way I get exactly what I want as opposed to what's available that no one else wants!! - I know what I mean?
Great job by the way - I am following along avidly.
Andi - I'm pleased you like it - I did order from Wingnuts for the first few, but it takes a few weeks to arrive & you do occasionally get stung for the customs payment which makes it not too far short of buying it direct from Hannants (UK) (which I did for the Snipe) and it arrives the next day.. You can also arrange to pick up from the Hannants at the RAF Museum at Hendon and then you pay no postage & you get an additional 10% discount on the kit price.
Sorry for taking this off at a tangent for a short while .................
Yes .......... I've been offered this advice before - BUT, I've been struggling with this notion of eBay v WNW v Hannants .......... and mainly because I simply cannot find a shipping/postage cost anywhere for Hannants ............ taking out eBay for the mo' ... The basic cost of the kit is already £25.00 less by ordering direct [shipping free] from WNW, Now I know I'm going to get stung by import duties - but to the tune of 25 quid? - And I've yet to factor in the cost of the "phantom" shipping charge from Hannants!!
I may be being a bit dim here?? [probably] But for the life of me I can't make sense of the differing rates, calculations and opinions.
Can anyone who has done both - or even individually please provide some kind of empirical evidence, as in tell me what it cost them!!
Apologies for minor hijack............
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Well, I was so impressed with this I bit the bullet - logged onto Wingnuts and ordered myself one. Snaffled a few off the 'bay but this is a first to order from source - I'll have to see how it pans out fiscally. Of course this way I get exactly what I want as opposed to what's available that no one else wants!! - I know what I mean?
Great job by the way - I am following along avidly.
Andi - I'm pleased you like it - I did order from Wingnuts for the first few, but it takes a few weeks to arrive & you do occasionally get stung for the customs payment which makes it not too far short of buying it direct from Hannants (UK) (which I did for the Snipe) and it arrives the next day.. You can also arrange to pick up from the Hannants at the RAF Museum at Hendon and then you pay no postage & you get an additional 10% discount on the kit price.
Sorry for taking this off at a tangent for a short while .................
Yes .......... I've been offered this advice before - BUT, I've been struggling with this notion of eBay v WNW v Hannants .......... and mainly because I simply cannot find a shipping/postage cost anywhere for Hannants ............ taking out eBay for the mo' ... The basic cost of the kit is already £25.00 less by ordering direct [shipping free] from WNW, Now I know I'm going to get stung by import duties - but to the tune of 25 quid? - And I've yet to factor in the cost of the "phantom" shipping charge from Hannants!!
I may be being a bit dim here?? [probably] But for the life of me I can't make sense of the differing rates, calculations and opinions.
Can anyone who has done both - or even individually please provide some kind of empirical evidence, as in tell me what it cost them!!
Apologies for minor hijack............
Andi
I’ve had a couple of deliveries from Wingnuts to the UK before Hannants started selling them.
In general terms on imports you can be liable for:
Duty - the rate varies depending on product & country it’s from but it’s often around 10% (can be 0% of course)
VAT – this is charged on the total of the declared value of the item + the postage on the parcel + any duty.
Handling charge – this is charged by Royal Mail, Parcelforce or any other carrier for doing the customs clearance – it varies but depending on the company but budget on £10 - £22 per shipment.
However, if your parcel isn’t caught for duty/VAT then there’s no handling charge by the carrier.
So on a kit costing say £50 (equivalent) in NZ with say £8 postage marked on the parcel (let’s assume there’s 5% duty) you’d pay:
£50 kit
£2.5 duty
£12.1 VAT based on the above two figures plus the £8 postage (even though it was ‘free postage’ by WNW) i.e. 20% of £60.5
£15 (assumed handling fee)
Total £79.60
The handling fee is a killer as it’s not relative to value. I recently had to pay £22 Royal Mail handling charge on a small £75 item from the US (but I really needed it). :'(
I’d still buy direct from WNW if Hannants didn’t have what I wanted in stock & were unlikely to get it but I’d not be expecting to save money (it could easily cost more). You may be fortunate & not get charged of course.
Regards
Russell
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Russell...............
Very many thanks for the explanation - it makes far more sense now - and it's no wonder I couldn't make the calculations add up - I'd not allowed for most of that. I really appreciate the time you've taken to explain it, and Gisbod for the initial heads-up [How cool - I said heads-up]! And for the build thread with which I'm so enamoured.
I now return you to your original programming.
Thanks all for indulging me in this matter.............!
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Not much more to see but I've got the 'stickers' on.. Nice part of the build :D
The WNWs decals are absolutely superb - I tried the hair dryer option this time and no micro sol or set and it works very well..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-13.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-13.jpg.html)
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Looking superb!
Keep up the great work ;)
Von Buckle
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Your Snipe it's awesome.
First class!
I'm enjoying your build alot... thx for posting.
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Another update - it probably doesn't look like I've done much, but I have! The weathering is in lots of stages so its taken quite a long time. Oil rendering/ filters etc.
I've finally got to the stage where rigging is next up. I think I'm going to use Bob's Buckles & monofilament again - I know that the Snipe had the flat rigging with no turnbuckles but I can't see how I'd represent this correctly whilst maintaining a tensioned (effectively working) rigging. I've looked at the gaspatch late RAF attachment points - they would be perfect - except that I can't work out how they'd attach to the rigging material correctly. I will however use their standard turnbuckles for the tail area - I've just received them, and I can say they are an excellent product. Well worth it..
Personally, I'm not a fan of EZ line - I know everyone seems to love it - but I find it uneven in thickness and difficult to thread through any brass tubing - and it's not providing tension to 'hold' the model together - but that's just me!
The drawback of the standard brass tubing is it's overscale against the real attachments - they are really small on the late RAF aircraft - but whichever route I take - there has to be a compromise..
Any comments welcome :)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-14.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-14.jpg.html)
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Looking fabulous! Great work. Carry on. ;)
Regards,
Bob
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I can only echo all the other comments regarding the superb standard.
I know which version of the Snipe I'll be doing after seeing this build.
Regards
Russell
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Personally, I'm not a fan of EZ line - I know everyone seems to love it - but I find it uneven in thickness and difficult to thread through any brass tubing - and it's not providing tension to 'hold' the model together - but that's just me!
Not just you, Guy. I feel the same way. EZ line can't provide the structural integrity that monofilament gives you.
As for the RAF wire connections, try cutting the brass tubing down to half the length you would use for turnbuckles, then, once the line is drawn tight and secured, flatten the tubing with needle nose pliers.
Your Snipe is shaping up beautifully, Guy. A true masterpiece in the works.
Cheers,
Bud
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Gorgeous Snipe, Guy! Top notch work! Love the paint scheme!
I too, prefer monofilament for rigging BTW :-)
Grtz
Flip
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again, a superb work!
about locking monofilament, I use the trick suggested by bud.. here on the emergency brake line of an opel blitz:
4340(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz104/mc65-1/opel%20blitz/IMG_4340.jpg) (http://s818.photobucket.com/user/mc65-1/media/opel%20blitz/IMG_4340.jpg.html)
but, to be honest, I love the EZ capability to stay tight, either if it's not "structural". about the flat rigging, the elasthan stuff on WNW site it's ok, to me... ;)
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You're doing a great job on the Snipe, Guy.
Looking forward to the rest of the build.
Cheers,
Ernie
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I love your paint work and style Guy, absolutely wonderful.
Echoing others above, this will be a great looking Snipe ;)
Andrew
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Beautiful work so far Guy, I love the colour scheme you have used.
Des.
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WOW, close to perfection, so far!
I like a lot with your build, especially the various shades of the overall colour "silver"!
Richard
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Thanks again ;)
As for the RAF wire connections, try cutting the brass tubing down to half the length you would use for turnbuckles, then, once the line is drawn tight and secured, flatten the tubing with needle nose pliers.
Thanks Bud,
Oddly enough, that's exactly what I tried! Just done the first attachment at the tail.. I think it's as good as I'll be able to get it. It's so fiddily though :o I'd forgotten just how much so... How you guys have the patience to rig an FE2b is beyond me..
but, to be honest, I love the EZ capability to stay tight, either if it's not "structural". about the flat rigging, the elasthan stuff on WNW site it's ok, to me... ;)
Yep, it does have its uses - despite all I've said I'm still using it for elements of the tail feathers - where the monofilament is too strong for the very delicate control horns..
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Ireally can't add nothing more to what has been said.
A trully fantabulastic build.
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Hi,
Another (small) update (very hot here in the UK!).
Finished the tail feathers - monofilament / Gaspatch turnbuckles / EZ Line for the bits that connect to the very delicate control horns. That's one tiny thing I'd ask Wingnuts to change - a horn that's one piece and passes through the tail giving a little more rigidity to the structure. But I'm not moaning - the kits are awesome as we all know :)
On to the main wings next - looking forward to getting the struts and top wing on as I don't feel I've progressed much structurally for too long..
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-18.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-18.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-19.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-19.jpg.html)
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Awesome Gis' ............... so delicate - and a good point on those "horns", I might have struggled away till I jiggered something up if I hadn't of spotted this build - which is of course directly responsible for me wanting to build one too.
As an aside - mine arrived [couple of weeks - not too bad]. Price wise, really quite bearable £46.76 for the kit direct, and a total of £17.50 ransom at customs = £64.26.
So, a fiver less than Hannants list price - better still if you include their phantom shipping - and round about the same as a Very Good example off the 'bay. But of course you can't always dictate what might be available.
So, a happy bunny - and one that's looking forward to making a start on these amazing kits. Just got to improve the skills a bit and hopefully cool down - you're right - I'm melting here!!!!
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Thanks Andi,
Glad your Snipe worked out getting it direct from Wingnuts. Which colour scheme are you going for? I'll look forward to your build thread.. :D
Guy
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Well, I was so impressed with this I bit the bullet - logged onto Wingnuts and ordered myself one. Snaffled a few off the 'bay but this is a first to order from source - I'll have to see how it pans out fiscally. Of course this way I get exactly what I want as opposed to what's available that no one else wants!! - I know what I mean?
Great job by the way - I am following along avidly.
Andi - I'm pleased you like it - I did order from Wingnuts for the first few, but it takes a few weeks to arrive & you do occasionally get stung for the customs payment which makes it not too far short of buying it direct from Hannants (UK) (which I did for the Snipe) and it arrives the next day.. You can also arrange to pick up from the Hannants at the RAF Museum at Hendon and then you pay no postage & you get an additional 10% discount on the kit price.
Sorry for taking this off at a tangent for a short while .................
Yes .......... I've been offered this advice before - BUT, I've been struggling with this notion of eBay v WNW v Hannants .......... and mainly because I simply cannot find a shipping/postage cost anywhere for Hannants ............ taking out eBay for the mo' ... The basic cost of the kit is already £25.00 less by ordering direct [shipping free] from WNW, Now I know I'm going to get stung by import duties - but to the tune of 25 quid? - And I've yet to factor in the cost of the "phantom" shipping charge from Hannants!!
I may be being a bit dim here?? [probably] But for the life of me I can't make sense of the differing rates, calculations and opinions.
Can anyone who has done both - or even individually please provide some kind of empirical evidence, as in tell me what it cost them!!
Apologies for minor hijack............
Andi
I’ve had a couple of deliveries from Wingnuts to the UK before Hannants started selling them.
In general terms on imports you can be liable for:
Duty - the rate varies depending on product & country it’s from but it’s often around 10% (can be 0% of course)
VAT – this is charged on the total of the declared value of the item + the postage on the parcel + any duty.
Handling charge – this is charged by Royal Mail, Parcelforce or any other carrier for doing the customs clearance – it varies but depending on the company but budget on £10 - £22 per shipment.
However, if your parcel isn’t caught for duty/VAT then there’s no handling charge by the carrier.
So on a kit costing say £50 (equivalent) in NZ with say £8 postage marked on the parcel (let’s assume there’s 5% duty) you’d pay:
£50 kit
£2.5 duty
£12.1 VAT based on the above two figures plus the £8 postage (even though it was ‘free postage’ by WNW) i.e. 20% of £60.5
£15 (assumed handling fee)
Total £79.60
The handling fee is a killer as it’s not relative to value. I recently had to pay £22 Royal Mail handling charge on a small £75 item from the US (but I really needed it). :'(
I’d still buy direct from WNW if Hannants didn’t have what I wanted in stock & were unlikely to get it but I’d not be expecting to save money (it could easily cost more). You may be fortunate & not get charged of course.
Regards
Russell
Andi
The trick is to order these things in bulk as the £8 handling fee is applied to the whole package, not per kit. I recently took delivery of 7 kits and saved something in the region of £150 which is, as some might say, not to be sneezed at.
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Guy,
Outstanding progress my friend. Superb work on her nose stripes. I really like your choice of marking too. Keep up the grand work my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Terrific craftsmanship and an Outstanding paint scheme! I must consider ordering a Late version so I can try one of these Silver birds!
RAGIII
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Finally getting there..
All the rigging attachments and struts in place.. Top wing on next. I'm planning to fix the undercarriage before tensioning the rigging so that its in its correct 'sitting' position'.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-20.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-20.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-21.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/image-21.jpg.html)
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Continues to inspire - and I really like the effects around those nose stripes - the subtle shading and panel work - great stuff.
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Guy, I wasn't all that interested in post-war paint
schemes, but this little gem of yours has changed
my mind. Masterful job!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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It's only just Ernie - 1919..
It was only a few months after the Armistice so it felt ok to choose that scheme ;) but yes, there certainly are some jazzy inter war Snipes about..
Guy
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It's only just Ernie - 1919..
It was only a few months after the Armistice so it felt ok to choose that scheme ;) but yes, there certainly are some jazzy inter war Snipes about..
Guy
There certainly are, Guy. I think the one
you are doing is the one I will do (eventually) as well.
Great job!
Ernie :)
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Hi Guy,
nice bulding and nice surface. Silver color is not easy, you succeeded.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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She's finished! ;D
Didn't take as long as I thought, though I always find the rigging a bit of a struggle, but the end result is worth it.
In summary I'd thoroughly recommend this kit - Relatively straightforward - the engine is much simpler than most Wingnut kits which speeds the whole process up. The fit of all parts is flawless.
I'm quite pleased with how the silver finish ended up ;)
I'll post a few more pictures in the completed builds section in a bit - Thanks to everyone who took an interest - It's been my first build log and hopefully I'll do some more!
On to the Fokker...
Guy
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_3523.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_3523.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_0045.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_0045.jpg.html)
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/Gisbod/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_3528.jpg) (http://s882.photobucket.com/user/Gisbod/media/Wingnut%20Wings%20Snipe/IMG_3528.jpg.html)
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Congratulations, Guy. She's stunning. I have this kit and was planning on a PC12 scheme. Now, I'm having second thoughts.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great job Guy.
I'm a fan of the silver interwar colours. I hope mine turns out somewhere near as nice.
Tom
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LOVE IT! Thank you, Gisbod!
Richard
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That is an absolutely Stunning Snipe! Lovely scheme and excellent execution! I hope my Snipe/Snipes, turn out half as well!
RAGIII
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What a beauty!
Thank you for walking us through this gorgeous build. Fantastic all the way!
Cheers
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Thank you :)
I have this kit and was planning on a PC12 scheme. Now, I'm having second thoughts.
Cheers,
Bud
I reckon she'd look the business in any colour scheme Bud..
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Take a bow, Guy, it's a beauty! The photos look great.
I'll run over to the completed section to see more, but
you have really done a masterful job! Congratulations!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Simply stunning Guy, she's a very impressive beastie!!
I hope you do more and I'm looking forward to the Fokker ;)
Andrew
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It's the bees knees mate. I'm inspired to do my M1c in as a
similar vein.
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You had me at "Striped Cowling"!
Beautiful!
Lindsay
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That's beautiful, Guy. The cowling really sets off a striking model.
Dal.
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Perfect looking bird - great plummage!!!
Steve