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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Scratch builds => Topic started by: GAJouette on June 03, 2013, 04:28:51 AM
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Well guys I'll make this official. After a long absence from building anything I'm now feeling up to a modeling project at last. So without further ado here's the latest. A scratchbuilt 1911 Voisin Hydroplane.
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As some of you know I have a thing for Odd Ball aircraft especially if it's an Early Aviation Odd Ball. I don't believe you can get much odder than the 1911 Voisin Hydroplane. To date the most difficult thing as been to find good plans for the project. As the sharp eyed among you have noticed the plans I'm working from originally for a Free Flight rubber powered model. But not to worry my friends this project is not intended to fly. The aim is to build a 1911 Voisin in 1/32 scale from plastic not wood.However I do intend to use tissue for the covering of the wings and fuselage. Note that this most likely will be a long term project as well.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Welcome back, Gregory! :D
LT
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From researching this project I found that there were several different versions of the 1911 Voisin and a 1912 version for which I couldn't locate good enough drawings or plans for to model. Here's a couple of other versions I did find plans for.
The Land version of the 1911 Voisin.
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Another version of the Voisin Hydroplane.
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The wing span shown on these plans isn't scale as we would know it. These are draw to Peanut Scale intended for Free Flight. So for workable plan in 1/32 scale they require a little reworking for scale. In my case I've reduced the drawing to arrive at the scale dimensions for the fuselage. For her wings I've begun drawing my own rough construction drawing.
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Thanks for looking and as always any and all comments are welcomed and appreciated.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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The first cutting of plastic. One of the fuselage side section underway. I'm building right atop the plans just as you would a stick and tissue kit.
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One side done with half circle reinforcements for framework support and later rigging attachment.
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Laying in the lower framework pieces.
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A little dry run to check how well I could line everything up. So far so good. A few additional frame cross pieces to be added before I'm ready to put the sides together.
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That's all for now. More to come when I've something to show. I'm working today on refining my drawings . Thanks for dropping by and as always any and all comments are welcomed and appreciated .
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Very cool project Gregory -- and happy to hear (and see!) that you are feeling up to taking this on. I will follow along with great interest.
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It's fantastic to see you back at your model bench again Gregory and even better seeing you producing something. It is an Odd Ball flying machine you have chosen but I'm sure you will be the one to pull it off as a scratch build, your progress so far is excellent, looking forward to watching you create your work of art..
Des.
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Gregory,
Nice to see this new scratchbuilt topic of yours. I will follow this one. I am already looking forward to this fuselage.
regards,
Ivo
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Great start to an interesting bird. Love the process youre using and Im looking forward to the next steps!!
Steve
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Nice start Gregory, I'll check back every few months to see how it's going! ;D ;)
Ian
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Thank you all very much for your kindly comments. I'm well aware this isn't going to be an easy process for me. But I'm determined to complete the Voisin project. Again Thank You my friends.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Words can't convey how happy I am to see you back at the bench, my old friend. And what a cool project! I'm really looking forward to following this thread.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Thanks my old friend . I surely appreciate your comments. I've always been interested in the Voisin but until recently had not a clue as to what type she was. Another case for collecting reference books and materials for years.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Welcome back to the production Line Greg, you sure are taking a less then "gentle" bite at the challenges! I'll be following this one closely, and I'm sure it will be a capital "W" winner!
Cheers, and ENJOY!
Lance
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Gregory it's definitely an extremely interesting build. as much I love seaplanes and hydroplanes the bizarre design of this plane makes it like a love from the first sight. keep the updates coming as frequently as you can!
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Gregory,
I'm a fan of seaplanes and anything unusual so I'm looking forward to seeing more of this. Great start.
Tom
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Really good to hear that you're back in the saddle again Gregory and not just building a kit but jumping right back into the fray with a scratchbuild project. I always like following your threads as the visuals are always so informative.
Cheers,
Chris
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Wow, what a start! And what an exciting subject. I am truly looking forward to see it unveil, Gregory.
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Gregory,
I had a thirty year plus break from modelling and know a little about what it feels like to return after a long break. You have certainly taken on a challenge but the quality of your work belies the fact that you have been away for so long. The subject is also very interesting, which makes this project all the more intriguing. Excellent start and I wish you every success and much enjoyment over the next few months: then the bug will have bitten again!
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Excellent project, Sir!
I will be keeping a close eye on this.
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Many thanks to all who've replied. I should have enough progress to report on soon so an update hopefully will be ready in a week or two. The project is progressing faster than I had thought, but then again the fuselage frame is the easiest part of the project. The wings and canards will be the most difficult sections to fabricate. At least for me that is. The original plan was to build up the wing and canard structures in the same manner as a stick and tissue kit then cover all of the work in tissue. I wanted to try to stay as close to the construction of an actual Voisin as possible. However I'm concerned about the plastic structure warping. So my plans may alter and build up the wings and canards from solid plastic similar to Des' technique . This will certainly be easier for me and allow me to build a much thinner airfoil section without the worry of warping and breaking the structures while sanding .
Again thank you all for your comments. I'll do my level best not disappoint . Oh before I forget I'm having a blast with the little odd ball Voisin of mine.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Looking forward to the progress pics. Glad youre enjoying the build!!
Steve
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Hello Gregory:
Glad to see you back in the saddle and at the bench! What an intersting airplane and what a challenge! I was scoping out the plans and realized that the pilot is sitting in the back! This will be fun to watch as it unfolds and to see how you progress. Could this be the 1910 version of the Ekranoplan? Well, it's odd looking anyway.
Best
Mark
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Really good to hear that you're back in the saddle again Gregory and not just building a kit but jumping right back into the fray with a scratchbuild project. I always like following your threads as the visuals are always so informative.
Cheers,
Chris
+1. ;D Good to see you back at the bench Gregory, particularly with such a fascinating subject! Bon Chance! ;)
Regards,
Bob
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What an interesting model you have chosen,
Gregory. I'll be following your build with
great interest. Thanks for sharing with us.
Best Regards,
Ernie :)
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I love scrath buiding.
I can't stop being amazed with what you can pull out from some plastic sheets and rods.
I got to try it myself one day!
Cheers
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Hey, buddy! How's it going? Any progress?
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Sorry to report that no new progress has been made my old friend. Other issues have taken my time for this project away for now.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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While posting photographs for the French G/B this evening I happened to notice a folder I hadn't looked at in a long long time. That folder contained my very stalled Voisin project. From the number of photographs including in this thread and those in the folder it was perfectly clear that I hadn't updated this thread before being put out of action for the second time. So tonight I'm making my long over due update.
The Fuselage as she stands at present.
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With the rear side panels and the beginnings of the tachometer,mag switch and the grease pump.
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The barrel seat and mounting.
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The beginnings of the Voisins fuel,oil tanks and their mounts. The white object is supposed to be the engine mount,but maybe not.
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Flight controls along with the throttle and spark advance levers.
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Half of her rough wing struts. These are the rear struts shown here.
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This is where my Voisin project left off. Although I not working on this project currently I no long consider it a mostly dead project. Hopefully sometime this year I'll get back to this one. Thanks for taking the time to look.As always any and all comments are welcomed and much appreciated.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Fantastic to see the updated photos of this build Gregory, I have been waiting anxiously for you to get back onto this wonderful project and hopefully will see you finish it off this year, what you have accomplished so far is totally amazing.
Des.
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Dear Gregory,
this is looking absolutely great, I really like the fuselgae structure and the woodgrain. I really hope you come back and finish her at some point. Keep up the good work!
best regards,
Sasho
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Great update Greg, and the quality is very apparent, especially some of those tiny components! An exciting project; I hope you get back at it very soon. 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Absolutely beautiful Gregory! The wood grain and structure is OUTSTANDING!
RAGIII
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I can't add much to what's just been said. It's great to see an update on this and I'm looking forward to more soon....
Best regards,
Ian
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Really excellent work, Gregory! I look forward
to the continuation of this project, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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This is the best news so far this year. Your scratch building skills are extraordinary - the wood finish and cockpit controls show how skilful a modeller you are. I really look forward to seeing you finish what is a very unusual aircraft.
Stephen.
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Very cool 8)
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Excellent news, Gregory ;-)
Keep up the good work.
vB
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So glad to see you getting back to this one, Gregory! What you've accomplished to far is remarkable. Can't wait to see more.
Cheers,
Bud
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To All,
My thanks to you all for your more than generous comments and well wishes.Understand this project is not currently active but I do believe I may well bring this one back to the bench once the Nieuport nears completion. Lord knows I've a multitude of incomplete projects to choose from and the Voisin is as good as all the others. Again thanks to you all and I deeply appreciate you all.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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very nice work , i remember this project. great progress from the last shots.great looking woodgrain and framing,i hope you get back to it soon.
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You most certainly SHOULD continue your work on this fantastic project Gregory!
It looks really good the framework and the details - very crisp and clean. Get to work mate I want to see more of your fabulous updates ;)
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Sorry that I see your Scratch build so late Gregory.
Outstanding work.
Cheers
Martin
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Hi Gregory,
Awesome work! Chapeau!
Regards
Jörg
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Hello, Gregory -
I'm really sorry I've missed this one.
Wow! I did not know you undertook scratch building as well - very impressive work so far.
As I have said to others, I would not have a clue where to start on a scratch build project ..................
Regards
Dave
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Restarting this build will be well worth waiting for :) :)
Des.
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The subject is exceptonal
and your craftmanship is adding quality to this masterpiece
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Gregory - just 'found' this and been right through. Very, very nice work indeed, that fuselage has come out really well. There's so much one can do in this small area of the hobby it makes for some interesting times ahead.
Keep up with this great work - as the desire takes hold of course.
Regards - Tug
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really looking great and what an interesting subject! Following this build for sure...
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Havent been around lately - I love this!!!!!!
Steve