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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: Jeroenveen1 on May 26, 2013, 11:03:57 PM
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Hello all, only yesterday I discovered this wonderful forum and wanted to join immediately. Although WW1 (and1:32 scale) models weren't my focus, all those wonderful WnW releases really triggered my interest. And the release of the Fokker DVII really set my heart on fire. I had built the WnW Gotha, but that Fokker… wow. I wanted to do 'Otto', which is entirely covered in lozenge. Although the WnW lozenge looks very good I found it on the bright side and toned it down considerably. That was the main challenge of the build… here are some pics to show you how she turned out. I hope you enjoy the pics, all comments welcome as usual. Happy modeling, Jeroen
(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Jeroenveen1/DSCF2341_zpsdf6fde9a.jpg) (http://s437.photobucket.com/user/Jeroenveen1/media/DSCF2341_zpsdf6fde9a.jpg.html)
(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Jeroenveen1/DSCF2333_zps4ba15652.jpg) (http://s437.photobucket.com/user/Jeroenveen1/media/DSCF2333_zps4ba15652.jpg.html)
(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Jeroenveen1/DSCF2336_zpsa81f502a.jpg) (http://s437.photobucket.com/user/Jeroenveen1/media/DSCF2336_zpsa81f502a.jpg.html)
(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Jeroenveen1/DSCF2330_zps03e25ba7.jpg) (http://s437.photobucket.com/user/Jeroenveen1/media/DSCF2330_zps03e25ba7.jpg.html)
(http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Jeroenveen1/DSCF2338_zps80995118.jpg) (http://s437.photobucket.com/user/Jeroenveen1/media/DSCF2338_zps80995118.jpg.html)
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What a nice way to introduce yourself Jeroen ;)
Spectacular D.VII!
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Thanks Bo! You were the reason I visited here in the first place, after seeing your impressive project on FB and the link to this site. Thanks so much, it's a spectacular place. And I will keep an eye out for your work, because it definitely is inspiring! Cheers, Jeroen
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That is fantastic - really well done DVII!
I have been debating use of the WNW lozenge on my DVII due to the colors - could you please relate your steps to tone it down? I am guessing maybe an overshoot of tan paint?
If asked I would not have even thought you used the WNW loz - it looks like the "faded" lozenge offerings from aftermarket
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This is part of a text I wrote for an article and it describes the steps I made to weather the lozenge. Hope this helps:
The Wingnut Wings Lozenge comes as big (and I mean big!) decals. The patterns look very good but to me personally the Lozenge is on the vibrant side and lacks structure. I considered using aftermarket decals for this but in the end I decided to use the kit Lozenge and weather it. Here’s a brief step-by-step overview of the process.
I prepared the plastic with a coat of Tamiya Gloss Varnish over which the lozengedecals were applied. The topside and bottomside each have three decals. I decalled the bottomside first. The topside is used to show you the weathering process.
I took a Light Gray color and thinned it down considerably with thinner. I then started misting this paint by airbrush, gradually building up the gray color. I was looking for a faded effect. This step was finalized with a coat of Tamiya Gloss Varnish.
The second batch of decals has been applied: thin arm balkenkreuz, ‘push here’ decals on the wingtops and Fokker factory stencil in the centre above the cockpit. Again, everything was sealed with Tamiya Gloss Varnish.
I cut 1 mm wide strips of Tamiya tape and placed them over the ribs. I then started airbrushing Tamiya Smoke over the tape, allowing overspray on either side. Carefully build up the darker color until you’re satisfied but beware: this is easily overdone. After the tape has been removed I airbrushed yet another coat of Tamiya Gloss Varnish. The result is what you see in the picture.
The last step of the weathering process . The wing has been dotted with white, raw umber, warm grey, yellow ochre and dark blue oil paint. Let it sit for half an hour and then with a wide brush moisted (not wet!) in turpentine start streaking the dots in the direction of the airflow. Continue this procedure until the effect is subtle.
After the oil paints have dried the wing is finished with a layer of Xtracolor Matt Varnish. Take note that the varnish will push back the painting effects so use this effect to your advantage. It is now ready to be installed on the struts. The whole procedure is relatively simple and I was quite happy with the result. The different layers of Gloss Varnish allow you to whipe off paint without damaging earlier steps if at a certain stage you are not happy with the results.
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What a beauty! The weathering is superb.
Cheers,
Chris
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Wow! It's better Fokker!
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I agree with the others: your lozenge is beautiful. And thank you for your tutorial on how you achieved this result. I do have one question left: you mention covering the ribs with Tamiya tape before spraying with Tamiya smoke. But isn't it a big risk in applying tape on decals without damaging bits of the decal when you remove the tape? Is that just luck, or do you have an additional tip or trick?
regards,
Ivo
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Simply stunning Jeroen :)
michael
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Thanks gentlemen, for the very kind words. With regard to the tape over decals: I never had any problems and never tore a decal off when I removed the tape. If in doubt I would suggest to stick the tape to the skin of your hand, remove it, and do it a second time. The grease of your skin will bring the tackiness down and it works just fine. Another option is to gloss coat the entire surface before sticking the tape on - that works as well. I hope this helps, cheers, Jeroen
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thank you for the details on how you did the lozenge - I am going to try these steps out on my build
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Thanks Jeroen, I'll stick it to my skin next time. I know the routine. Someone on this forum even got his tape stuck to his forehead if I remember correctly. ;)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/Ivotb/Fokker%20D-VII/IMG_28291600x1200_zps1ad44e36.jpg)
Here you can see my problem: the orange cockarde on the left was damaged on top of the two ribs on the right in the cockarde. A little orange paint corrected it sufficiently, but I will always know >:(
regards,
Ivo
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That might have been me Ivo! ;D
Beautiful build!
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Hi Jeroen,
welcome onboard and congratulations to your Fokker. The weathering on the lozenge is fabulous. And thanks for your explanations. By the way: Did you show your Fokker on Hyperscales Forum a few weeks ago?
So happy to have you here, Dirk
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Jeroen,
I can only echo what others have already said - wonderful workmanship resulting in a stunning model.
Regards
Dave
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Jeroen,
OUTSTANDING Fokker my friend. I hope to see more WW I project from you.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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One of the best DVII builds I have seen to date! Excellent save on the kit Lozenge!
RAGIII
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Welcome Jeroen and thanks for joining us. Thats an amazing Fokker and it proves that the WNW decals, which are sound in quality, can, with a little patience and paint, look good.
Steve
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What a beautiful model Jeroen, and thank you for the information
on toning down the lozenge. One quick question...did you thin
the Tamiya Smoke, or spray it as is...and about what air pressure?
Thanks for your help, and for sharing your work with us.
Best Regards,
Ernie
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Thanks for the humbling replies gents! About the Smoke: this is a bit of a tricky color because there is a definite turning point that goes from ok to overdone. I thin it down 50-50 with Tamiya thinners, not to make the spraying easier but more to build up color density . Pressure was kept as low as possible but overspray on either side of the tape is a must to get this effect. I think the effect you see here took about 8-9 normal passes with the airbrush...
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Hi Jeroen,
Welcome aboard!
So glad to see you here ;)
Yet again another fine modeller joins the ranks.
Von Buckle :)
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Welcome aboard, Jeroen. Etraordinary Fokker. What a great introduction.
Cheers,
Bud
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Just wanted to belatedly thank you for your post with pictures and instructions on how you created your effect. I've returned to this post read your instructions several times. Thanks.
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i agree, this fading effect makes the wnw decals look quite good. brad cancian must use a similar method as his lozenge covered models look similar. i tryed another method which worked o.k. but not as good as this. i mixed a light grey/beige color mixed with future to an almost translucent coating. using a wide flat brush i worked it 45 degrees to the chord when dry 90 degrees to that, after dry span wise and then finally chordwise. i was trying to tone them down as well as create a fabric texture. it was ok looking but its just much easier to use the aviattic decals and call it a day.
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Cool to find your work here, Flying Dutchman! A warm welcome and a lot of applause for this gorgeous Fokker! Cheers, jean. :) :)
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Nice effect on the lozenge decals, and thank you for the tutorial. Well done all around.
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Very, very nice! I love this dull appearance.
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Lovely effect 😉
I thought how great the aftermarket decals looked - until you told me they were Wingnuts!
Although quite surprised WW don't want to team up with Aviattic...
Guy
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Very fine shading. All-losenge is very tasty. Thanks for sharing!
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Hello to all,
A very nice model. I like it. Well done !
Best regards.
Alain.