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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on May 07, 2013, 06:57:29 AM

Title: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 07, 2013, 06:57:29 AM: I am going to build yet one more small model of a red-blue aircraft from Jasta 18 using Pheon Decals. This time I have chosen Albatros D.III flown by Paul Straehle adorned with his white battleaxe insignia.
This is the Roden kit detailed with Part PE. I have just completed the cockpit and the fuselage halves are ready to be glued together. The internal truss is a bit fiddly to get together but after some pushing and cursing finally I have managed to set it straight. However, there are some members missing, just at the cockpit area, which I have added using thin Evergreen profiles. They are also necessary to mask the internal sides of the nasty joints between the turtledeck (cheers, Roden, for this engineering pseudo-marvel!) and the fuselage sides. The control lines are from elastic thread, secured at an added knob at the rear of the fuselage interior.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-31_zpsa6a0a9f0.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-32_zps5675aec2.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-33_zps3731e333.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-34_zps50f2066c.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on May 07, 2013, 07:10:36 AM: AWESOME !!project my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 07, 2013, 07:13:37 AM: Wow!! That is a huge and amazing jump out of the gate. Looking forward to this one.

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: uncletony on May 07, 2013, 08:04:49 AM: Quote from: GAJouette on May 07, 2013, 07:10:36 AM
AWESOME !!project my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

+100000

Awesome awesomeness

Incredible
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on May 07, 2013, 09:03:57 AM: Nice start. Is the PE standard in the Roden kit or is it after market. Is the entire inside now PE? Looks like a lot of precise work.

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: coyotemagic on May 07, 2013, 11:24:34 AM: Quote from: Bo Monroe on May 07, 2013, 08:04:49 AM
Quote from: GAJouette on May 07, 2013, 07:10:36 AM
AWESOME !!project my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

+100000

Awesome awesomeness

Incredible
Awesomeness stacked upon awesomeness, Prez! If you hadn't told us that this is 1/72 scale, I would have simply assumed that it was a very well executed WNW build and I still would have said that it was awesome.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Whiteknuckles on May 07, 2013, 02:59:54 PM: As Bud said, this looks like an immaculately done 1/32 project!!
Great work Prez, I like the wood tones very much.

Andrew
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 07, 2013, 04:37:10 PM: Sweeeeeeeet!
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xaeDyZVyVGo/TIognZpll7I/AAAAAAAAAEs/cZ3PhK2jhUo/s1600/shock.JPG)

VB
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Ernie on May 07, 2013, 06:28:23 PM: I am speechless! I am boggled that that is 1/72 scale. You are an amazing
modeller, and I look forward to more progress photos!

Best Regards,
Ernie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: kinnies on May 08, 2013, 08:23:52 AM: Oh my.
Looking forward to this one.
John
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 08, 2013, 04:25:11 PM: Thank you, everybody. I am glad you all like my Albie and that some of you uncovered my plot with WNW Albatros ;)

IvotB, Roden do not add any PE elements. Luckily, I live in Poland (so far away from WNW, TVAL, etc) but we are lucky here to have a company Part http://www.part.pl/ who some time ago released dedicated PE sets for every 72nd scale Roden kit. You may get them from Jadar hobby shop http://www.jadarhobby.pl/index.php?language=en

Right now I am finishing off a simplified Mercedes which is about to complete the fuselage interior. Substantial filling and sanding is looming. Photos are coming soon.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 08, 2013, 10:25:07 PM: If anyone hasnt used Jadar they should. Good prices and a discount program. Part p/e can be incredible or impossible sometimes!!! I do like the fact that they stayed with brass though instead of that bullet proof stuff others use.

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on May 08, 2013, 11:00:59 PM: Quote from: IvotB on May 07, 2013, 09:03:57 AM
Nice start. Is the PE standard in the Roden kit or is it after market. Is the entire inside now PE? Looks like a lot of precise work.

regards,
Ivo
Oops, hadn't noticed that this is 1/72 :-[ My respect has now grown enormously. I didn't know this was possible in 1/72.

It's really a beauty!

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2013, 12:32:26 AM: A STUNNING job on the PE and painting of the wood interior!! Your work is terrific as always!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 09, 2013, 07:24:06 AM: Thanks again, gentlemen.

Two photos of the engine mounted in the fuselage.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-35_zps2fcf40a0.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-36_zps01501056.jpg)

Not too much will be seen after the top fuselage is on.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 09, 2013, 11:12:09 AM: Wow!! This is moving along quickly. Looks amazing!!

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Adam on May 09, 2013, 06:49:15 PM: I see here the next excellently made model. :)
I have such Albi in my stash, so here is good tutorial for me .

Adam.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: KrzysiekK on May 09, 2013, 07:52:19 PM: As always Przemek is doing creazy job!! I have never decided to touch 72 as the amount of details was not satisfactory for me..but now I have to change my way of perception..
regards
K
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 10, 2013, 08:03:43 AM: Holy Schniekees! Fantastic as usual. Although you can't fool us. That's either full scale or 1/32nd ;)

You need to give us a tutorial on how to use those lovely metal sets. After I botched my Fokker D-VII set, I'm keen to try it again but do it right this time.

Excellent...Dan
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on May 10, 2013, 10:35:37 AM: Now that's an excellent idea Dan. Przemek if it's not too much of a bother could you do this for the group working within your time table?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 12, 2013, 06:48:42 AM: Thank you for you kind words.
Tutorial on small PE? Well, why not. But I think it will have to wait till my next 72nd scale project. Then I will take some photos during the process. It will be either Albatros D.II or Fokker Dr.I.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on May 12, 2013, 08:56:42 AM: Sounds like a perfect deal to me. I'm looking forward to that tutorial my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2013, 03:30:20 AM: Prez,
awesome work! Are you sure you aren't taking photos of the 1/32nd kit and PE?
RSGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 13, 2013, 07:09:38 AM: Thanks!

A few steps forward - the fuselage is closed, the gaps filled but not sanded yet, the empennage is there, too, and so is the tail skid with its fin, which had to be enlarged by adding a polystyrene strip. There are also two fine strips added at the front cowl, to imitate the missing line between the metal panels.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-37_zps3f971e2a.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-38_zpse65706f5.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-39_zps9bceae2d.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-40_zps953dbb4f.jpg)

The three part upper wing is assembled, the plastic imitation of radiator scraped to be replaced by PE parts.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-41_zpsfaac98c3.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-42_zps8f29ed9a.jpg)

Now for serious sanding and filling back, and sanding, and so on. Doing this I will also remove the imitations of strut fittings, inspection covers, etc., all to be replaced by PE, too.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: mgunns on May 13, 2013, 06:43:40 PM: Hello Prez:

This is amazing. The level of detail you bring to 1/72nd is truly amazing. Looking forward to more and your upcoming tutorial.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 14, 2013, 07:24:48 AM: Looking forward to your expert use of the Part p/e

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Checkers67 on May 14, 2013, 08:46:01 AM: HOLLY MOLLY THAT'S FINE WORK ON A TINY ALBIE!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 24, 2013, 07:29:03 AM: Thank you, gentlemen.

The fuselage is finally assembled. Surprisingly only three sessions of filling and sanding were necessary. I have also rescribed panel lines, some had to be added, some restored and some corrected. There are still some tiny fittings to be added using PE bits, but they will come after the lower wings are attached. To control the geometry I have built a cardboard jig.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-43_zpsc49e272c.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-44_zps2cbac4e2.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-45_zps28ad45f1.jpg)

The grey colour is just to test the quality of sanding and scribing.

In the meantime, to have some rest from those tedious operations, I have built the Spandaus and attached the radiator.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-46_zpsfc7420ca.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-47_zps7974da1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: mc65 on May 24, 2013, 08:02:47 AM: can't believe is 1/72!!!

amazing, and -darn- it's seems better engineered than his /32 brother... >:(

wonderful work, bravo! ;)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 24, 2013, 08:11:58 AM: mc65, I have just checked the Roden site. 32nd scale version is surely better engineered. This little kit is designed to allow for Oef versions with rounded fuselage nose. The German versions have a ring at the nose, which in its upper side has nothing to do with the real panels. Its fit is horrible, I had to add some MagicSculp mass at the chin to remove a nasty "step" there, then fill the gaps and rescribe the panel lines.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: uncletony on May 24, 2013, 11:11:54 AM: More awesome awesomeness! This is going to be a jewel.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Ernie on May 24, 2013, 09:29:38 PM: Przemol, my old eyes hurt just looking at this tiny jewel!
Bloody amazing work. :o I can't wait to see what's next.

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: RAGIII on May 25, 2013, 04:50:49 AM: Prez,
Beautifully done. Your work on this kit is inspiring. I have one of these in my stash and it sure makes it tempting. Your repair work on the fuselage fit and the jig are equally impressive!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 25, 2013, 07:10:31 AM: Thanks, again, gentlemen.
Well, this kit is typical Roden, meaning that with some care and work it can truly be brought into a nice model. I will do my best to achieve it.

For the moment, the lower wings are glued. The plastic glue is curing, tomorrow I will reinforce the joints with a liquid CA glue.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-48_zps94637dca.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-49_zpscf6ef10b.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: stefanbuss on May 26, 2013, 06:51:21 PM: When I built that kit, some years ago, i noticed that one lower wing should be attached a liile more forward than the other - which is of course silly, but was dictated by the pins inside the molds.

I assume that you have cut the wings' pins before glueing them - aren`t you afraid that they will keep coming off again and again during the rigging process? I think the area where glue can be properly applied to is really small...

Regards,
Stefan
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on May 27, 2013, 08:00:32 AM: Prez,
As always my old friend she's a monument to to your high skills and craftsmanship.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 27, 2013, 08:10:16 AM: Stefan, I have left the pins. On the other hand I had to drill the holes in one side of the fuselage, as they were not present there. I have indeed noticed, that the pins were not symmetric between both lower wings, so I drilled the holes slightly assymetrically, too. Thus the wings are correctly positioned and the joints should be strong enough. To make sure I have filled the upper side of the joints with a liquid CA glue.

Gregory, many thanks, you are very kind, as usual.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 28, 2013, 07:03:45 AM: Now all the fittings and the holes for struts and rigging are ready:
the fuselage:
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-50_zps1be83807.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-53_zps112a70a5.jpg)

the lower wings
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-52_zpsa27fa16d.jpg)

the upper wing
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-54_zps62242179.jpg)

the tail (the elevator control-horns will be added after painting, they are too delicate to risk their loss when masking)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-51_zpsb266dc34.jpg)

The struts were treated, too. The interplane V-s had to be trimmed by about 1mm but the original pins can still be used. The cabane struts will be adjusted only when the top wing sits on. The undercarriage struts have now the pins made from 1mm sections of wire and the ring fittings added from self-adhesive metal tape.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-55_zps30496b94.jpg)

Everything is now ready for painting! :)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on May 28, 2013, 08:07:13 AM: Great engineering to get this one right!!

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on May 28, 2013, 07:33:28 PM: After this one, I will never be able to build an 1:72 airplane again without being disappointed in my own skills.

PrzemoL: excellent and impressive progress! Those PE details are stunning. Can't wait to see your turnbuckles

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: mc65 on May 29, 2013, 05:00:52 AM: wow!

if have to remember myself that it's 1/72.... wonderful!!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2013, 11:28:08 AM: I must say that I agree with the others. I find myself thinking this is the 1/32nd kit from your pictures ! Your work in 1/72nd is unbeleivable!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on May 29, 2013, 09:45:41 PM: Well what can I say to add to the praise here? After all we're looking at the works of a Wizard of 1/72 scale.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 05, 2013, 07:15:40 AM: Thank you, gentlemen. You are very kind.

Ivo, I have to disappoint you regarding the turnbuckles. I do not model them in 72nd scale, this is beyond my skills to make them to this scale.

I have done some painting and decaling. First the lower side light blue was airbrushed and masked. Then the dark blue was sprayed. Later came the markings which will be just visible under the semi-transparent final coat of dark blue and the white axe - the fuselage crosses from Rowan's sheet, the black strip with white borders was masked and sprayed - white first, then black. And finally the early axes from the decal set were added, The latter ones are still to be treated with Microsol and pressed to conform to the panel lines. Luckily the Rowan's set contains two pairs of axes, one is for Albatros D.V also flown by Straehle, which I am not going to build, so I could use them now! :)

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-58_zpsd427b73d.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-57_zps5181d2e6.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-56_zpsbcf1393e.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Ernie on June 05, 2013, 08:40:18 AM: I'm really liking the markings. It will look so good when done!

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 05, 2013, 10:54:53 AM: Thats a colourful Alby!! Nice work

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 07, 2013, 07:22:40 AM: Thanks, gentlemen.

So, the meticulously made markings were oversprayed and the nose got its red:

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-59_zps2431a7a2.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-60_zpsbf832928.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-61_zps5160fae1.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-62_zps63be944c.jpg)

I have also painted the propeller

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-63_zps8a48c1f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 07, 2013, 07:29:45 AM: Very sharp!!

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: lone modeller on June 07, 2013, 07:53:13 AM: I have only just come across this build and I simply cannot believe what I am looking at. I am truly staggered at the level of detail that you have incorporated in this model - I am having second thoughts about whether to bother posting any more photos of my models as I think that mine are positively amateurish when compared with this! Do give the tutorial on your use of PE - I probably could not cope with it but I would be most interested to read it. Excellent work of the very highest standards - congratulations.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Des on June 07, 2013, 08:11:34 AM: Absolutely stunning workmanship, you are creating a spectacular masterpiece and to think that it is in 1:72 scale puts it on an even higher level, you are a true master craftsman, well done.

Des.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: rhinocrat on June 07, 2013, 08:28:35 AM: Wow, that's incredible. Part sets are always tempting, and then very very very fiddly! I wish I had your skill.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: mgunns on June 07, 2013, 10:53:27 AM: Hello Prez:

Another masterpiece! The scheme is a neat choice and the overspray is not overdone. Outstanding workmanship all around.

Best
Mark
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 10, 2013, 07:18:35 AM: Thank you, everybody.

Some more steps taken: markings on the fuselage and lower wings are decalled, cockpit coaming and radiator painted, ribs shaded.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-64_zps9d2853be.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-65_zps00b3624a.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-66_zpsc5070f73.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-67_zpsd4da1f72.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-68_zps37e2f166.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-69_zps729d3b7c.jpg)
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/albatrosd3/albd3-70_zps7e4ec9e1.jpg)

Next steps will be wash, varnish and some dirt pigments.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: miecio52 on June 10, 2013, 02:55:18 PM: Watching closely, cool painting.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 11, 2013, 07:51:39 AM: Nice wing work. This is coming together nicely- as per usual!!

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Eudgen on June 11, 2013, 10:58:46 PM: Quote from: PrzemoL on June 10, 2013, 07:18:35 AM
ribs shaded.
What technology did you use for the post-shading? Tamiya smoke?
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 11, 2013, 11:03:28 PM: Thanks, gents.

Eudgen, I reckon that Tamiya smoke is too dark, hard to control the intensity of the shading. I prepare my own mix of clear gloss and black (or brown for CDL) in 10:1 or larger proportion. Usually, I try to adjust it, using a scrap plastic for testing, to reach the level of 2-3 airbrush passes for the required intensity.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on June 12, 2013, 12:21:48 AM: Przemol,

Somewhere a lost track. I see you applying decals, then you are overspraying them and now thw white axe is there again. Could you explain this procedure or point me out where you told us why? Is it to somehow improve on the colors or do you apply some shade this way.

Just curious. To see what I can copy later :D

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 12, 2013, 04:16:08 AM: Ivo, the photo of Straehle's Albatros D.III (e.g. in Osprey Jasta 18 Red Noses book) shows clearly the oversprayed earlier markings around the final white axe. There is a skew dark band with bright borders, iron cross and traces of previous axe slightly moved to the back with respect to the final one. This is what I tried to replicate.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on June 12, 2013, 06:08:33 AM: Didn't see the picture and I don't have the book, but now I completely understand what you have been doing. Looks excellent and I still can't believe it is in 1:72.

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yes/two-thumbs-up-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 12, 2013, 05:05:21 PM: You may see the photo on the web. I have just typed "Albatros D.III Strahle" in Google and it gave me a link with Page 32 of the above mentioned book.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IvotB on June 12, 2013, 05:47:53 PM: Yes, I have seen the picture and it is clear to see what is shining through the paint.

regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 13, 2013, 07:08:32 AM: Wash and dirt are now varnished. Spandaus, control horns on the elevator, windshield and the exhaust are on. Everything is now prepared for mounting the upper wing. Stay tuned.

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Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Ernie on June 13, 2013, 01:09:18 PM: The Albi is looking very good. The paint scheme/weathering is
really attractive. I'm looking forward to more photos of your
work.

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 14, 2013, 11:38:16 PM: Beautiful work. What flat coat do you use? Cant wait to see the final product!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: IanB on June 15, 2013, 02:15:04 PM: Gorgeous work Prez, with one exception (and that's my own personal view...) - the panel lines!
As a pilot, I'm up close with aircraft every day and panel lines are just not that visible. Panels usually overlap, there is no gap that looks dark! I'm not sure quite why it's become so "de rigeur" for modellers to emphasise panel lines so much, but to me it spoils a very nice model...

Just my personal opinion, and still great work!

Ian
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: uncletony on June 15, 2013, 08:57:29 PM: I think it it just superb, a little jewel.

Regarding the panel lines... our "Red Baron" (Justin) once wrote something here I thought was very cogent -- I wish I could find it to quote it exactly. Anyway, his comment was to the effect that there were two sepearate ideals in modeling; one being to create an exact scale replica, the other to capture the essence of the subject. I think the panel lines fall into the second category; the Albatros was fashioned from slabs of plywood and this treatment hints at this part of the story, just as the overpainted decals tell the story of a long career...
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: mc65 on June 15, 2013, 11:54:28 PM: how to disagree?
I would add something in between: a plane that works gets dirty, let alone a plane that fights!
although the European rules require cleaner airplanes, at the cost of heavy fines, here is an example of how I go around:
1409(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz104/mc65-1/varie/IMG_1409.jpg) (http://s818.photobucket.com/user/mc65-1/media/varie/IMG_1409.jpg.html)

1406(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz104/mc65-1/varie/IMG_1406.jpg) (http://s818.photobucket.com/user/mc65-1/media/varie/IMG_1406.jpg.html)

certain in scale would only be subtle signs, but to make the eye of the beholder able to seize them, exaggerate a bit 'becomes indispensable, I think.

the work of painting the fuselage (blue on blue) is wonderful, my heartfelt congratulations!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: KevinM on June 16, 2013, 04:02:31 AM: I love it !! Beautiful work all the way around as to the panel lines looks like a good artist at work just right to draw the beholder into the subject.;)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 16, 2013, 06:42:44 AM: Wow, great to see such a discussion evoked by my rendition of panel lines. I realise that it may not be totally real. However, I have seen so many Albatros models with completely monolithic fuselage, that I decided I had to do something to suggest the panelled surface.

Some more progress includes the upper wing and the rigging threads pulled through the holes but still not tightened. Before starting with the upper wing I have let all the rigging lines into the prepared holes in the lower wings.
To get the upper wing on required some corrections to the struts. When compared with the scale drawings from WDS Albatros D.III the interplane ones were some 1 mm too long. I had to trim the lower tips and carve the pins. Then the struts were attached to the upper wing and after the glue set, this subassembly was glued to the lower wing. In this way it was quite easy to control the geometry. Then it obviously came out that the cabane struts were too long, too. They had to be trimmed by some 2 mm. The single front ones were easy to correct. The Vees had to be cut at the lower joint, slightly bent one toward another, glued, sanded and painted. After several trial and error attempts I managed to trim them to the correct length and when attached they nicely constrained the entire structure.

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Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Ernie on June 16, 2013, 08:54:35 AM: Great attention to detail! The weathering is evident without
being over the top.
What do you use for rigging in this scale?

Cheers,
Ernie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 17, 2013, 04:12:01 AM: Pepperman, I am sorry, I have overlooked your question. The flat coat is actually a satin one, which is a mix (about 1:1) of Pactra clear gloss and Modelmaster clear matt.

Erni, I rig 72nd scale models with a black elastic thread taken from stockings.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 17, 2013, 06:06:01 AM: The rigging lines are tightened and the excess over the upper wing cut. The radiator pipes made of tin wire are attached.

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The elevator control wires in place

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And I have started making up the mess on the top wing, the holes left by the rigging are now filled with a half-dried paint. When it is dry I will delicately sand these blobs flush to prepare the surface for the paint.

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Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 17, 2013, 11:51:19 AM: Exceptional execution!! Thanks for the satin coat cocktail.

Steve
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: RAGIII on June 18, 2013, 06:05:36 AM: Beautifully painted and rigged!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: GAJouette on June 19, 2013, 03:06:03 AM: Prze,
Awesome works as always my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Jacek on June 19, 2013, 04:41:13 AM: Beautiful model!
Scale 1/71 is a bit too small for my eyes :) I did not realize that a model in this scale can have many details!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 20, 2013, 08:09:29 AM: Thank you, guys, you are exceptionally kind.

Now, my little red-nosed Albie is finished, I welcome you to the gallery.

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Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: vincentm on September 12, 2014, 09:11:01 AM: I had missed this one! Such a level of detail in a 1/72 WWI plane is just incredible. And the painting is gorgeous. Superb D-III.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 12, 2014, 02:14:54 PM: i know the panel line discussion is over but i think its just fine. to me, especially in such small scale with such bright solid colors it is easy for a model to end up looking like a toy. the over accentuation of details is a way to break up the finish and bring scale realism. just like when an actor performs on stage even the men wear make-up to accentuate facial details which would get lost at the distance of the audience . you have done just that and done it very well. i think your albatros looks great.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 12, 2014, 08:24:28 PM: Thank you, Vincent.
And thank you, Albatros1234, for your words about the panel lines. Great to hear there are others who think like me in this aspect.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III (1/72, Roden)
Post by: Culi on September 12, 2014, 10:45:57 PM: Wow! i just saw this thread. Its beautiful what you are doing. This final work and appearance are great.
* I didnt know for this axed D.III, always thought is just D.V