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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: Allan31 on January 01, 2025, 07:21:13 AM
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I was watching a movie and this appeared on the screen.
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At least the wings, elevator and landing gear are DH Moth. At first I thought it was a converted DH Moth used in "Lawrence of Arabia" but now I don't think so.
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Any thoughts?
I know it's not EXACTLY WW1 but it kinda is.....
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One observation, there is no smoke coming out of the exhaust mounted on top of the engine which suggests to me the visible engine is false.
Alan.
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perhaps the electric version?
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Hi Allan,
it is a converted Tiger Moth based at La Ferte-Alais (https://www.google.de/maps/place/91590+La+Fert%C3%A9-Alais,+Frankreich/@48.4818892,2.347186,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x47e5c3908b8516b1:0x2ab97107e16d9307!8m2!3d48.481582!4d2.348072!16zL20vMDFtcXdz?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDExNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), south of Paris. It's civil registration is F-AZAV (https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/F-AZAV). Appearently it has been repainted
to show a "wooden" fuselage. It is called Alb C.II which of course is nonsense as the C.II was a pusher.
Greetings Joachim
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Thanks Joachim but actually it is not.
Seems there were more than one of these built and AZAV is the sister a/c.
These are indeed the markings as used in the film, but...
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Looking closely at AZAV in this photo, you can see the a/c used in the film is next to it...
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Can you dig up anything about the company that built these a/c? I wonder what the F-# is for the C-215/15 a/c?
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You are right, there are two of these: F-AZAV (https://www.airhistory.net/registration/F-AZAV) and F-AZAX (https://www.airhistory.net/registration/F-AZAX).
The machines for Lawrence (https://www.google.com/imgres?q=aircraft%20for%20lawrence%20of%20arabia&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.impdb.org%2Fthumb.php%3Ff%3DLawrence_0h35m19_DH82.jpg%26width%3D500&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.impdb.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DLawrence_of_Arabia&docid=GuxZlfhvHcqn3M&tbnid=GlfqYW4bN_io1M&vet=12ahUKEwj5zffM3_2KAxUIR_EDHc2SBm8QM3oECGQQAA..i&w=500&h=224&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwj5zffM3_2KAxUIR_EDHc2SBm8QM3oECGQQAA) were made by Film Aviation Services at Croydon, one Fok D.VII and two Ru C. ?.Maybe the latter were further
modified around the engine and went to France.
In the seventies there was a BBC series and they had an Alb C.I, a description appeared in Scale Models but I don't have it anymore.
The conversion was done by ?Air Bianchi? or similar.
The replicas in question were featured in Aeroplane Monthly but again I don't have them anymore.
Joachim
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In Stuart McKay's book I found this
More of the museum (http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/Blogvorm/amicale-jean-baptiste-salis/), flying display always on Pentecost.
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Very interesting although there is one error in their description. I would imagine the article meant to say Albatros C.1 as the C.2 was a pusher and I think his work would have been cut out trying to make one of them out of a Tiger Moth.
Alan.