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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Paper and Card models => Topic started by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 10, 2024, 03:25:58 PM

Title: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 10, 2024, 03:25:58 PM
Back in the saddle after a long-term Me-410 paper model project (and some others!).  This will be a pretty, French Nieuport and should go together well.  Stay tuned!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on December 10, 2024, 07:46:52 PM
Nice! Just in time to compete with the CSM Nieuport 11s which should be arriving soon......
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Gene K on December 10, 2024, 10:30:01 PM
Back in the saddle after a long-term Me-410 paper model project ... .


Great to see you back into a WWI project!

Gene K
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Radarman on December 11, 2024, 12:47:04 AM
It's great to see you're back at it, Dan. As I always say, "You can never have too many Nieuports".

                                                                                                             Happy Modeling from Kevin in Port Orchard
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 16, 2024, 04:33:58 PM
Thanks everybody!  This should be a relaxing build.  I only just started getting the cockpit area together.  I only punched holes in the seat and formers are glued to 1/32nd balsa as is my usual practice.  Other than that, it's just as designed.  Looks cool so far.  Some additions to it soon!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Martyn on December 16, 2024, 09:35:57 PM
Nice work so far! Method of punching holes in the chair backrest you showed in the video is definitely the way to go - I tried drilling 1 mm holes and it came out not as clean.
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 17, 2024, 03:41:40 AM
Hi Martyn,

They are tough to do and this tool is a luxury to use.  You could try drilling and then poking into the hole a few times with a sharpened pencil.  That at least helps clean up the edges a bit.  Still leaves ragged areas on the back side, though.  Not really an easy way to do this.

Thanks for looking and at the videos too.  Please ask more questions as we go!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 18, 2024, 04:06:52 PM
A bit more tonight.  Working through the seat attachment, seat belts with new metal clasps and the tubular steel cage with rigging since the model has these being flat and pasted to the interior side wall.  Looks better being 3-D.

One question I have is were those pieces tubular steel and is a bluish color accurate?  Not being a French WWI machine expert, I'll defer to you. 

Looking squarely at you, Kevin!  ;D

This one is coming along well.  Needs some more little details like rudder bar, rigging, aileron tubes, joy stick etc. but looking good.

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on December 18, 2024, 07:44:26 PM
Nice start here. Yes, current thinking is that interior tubing was a "french blue", so bluish grey. However, the framework was wood and it looks like you have some steel framework where there should be wood. It's hard to tell from the photos though.
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 19, 2024, 12:38:00 PM
Thanks, Nigel.  I will repaint parts of it!  I'll make sure my aileron tubing is tubing and not wood too!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 20, 2024, 02:17:51 PM
The Nieuport interior continues apace. I got the aileron tubes added, the joy stick and rudder pedals along with control lines. I still need to add the throttle quadrant on the left side and I think it'll be ready to move on. Thanks to Nigel, there shouldn't be any tubular steel in the fuselage except for the one vertical part I kept the blue/grey color. I repainted the other to look more like wood. It'll pass once all enclosed. Going well!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 21, 2024, 10:23:28 AM
Got the fuselage together but it still needs some more cockpit opening details etc.  Coming together very well so far.

It sure is a pretty machine.

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on December 21, 2024, 08:01:07 PM
Looking good, I'm sure everyone will notice the correction to the fuselage framework now the fuselage is all closed up..... ;D At least we know it's there :)
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: KiwiZac on December 23, 2024, 07:16:34 AM
Great work so far Dan! I'm feeling the urge to finally get back to that Avro...
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 23, 2024, 02:06:05 PM
It's all your fault, Nigel!  I'm glad I changed it.  As you say...we know it's there.  ;)

Where is that Avro, Zac?  Just fooling.  I do think you'll like it when you get to it.

Here is a quick look at the tails on the Nieuport.  I'll work on the control cables, struts and control horns tonight and maybe the tail skid do it won't hurt the tails.  I may also redo the rudder.  Looks like a thick frying pan back there! 

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 28, 2024, 02:18:51 PM
A bit more done.  Tails are all done and controls attached.  I did thin the rudder. Looks better.  I also added the tail skid, stab struts and the windshield.  On to the wings next!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on December 28, 2024, 07:38:02 PM
Very nice work, this is looking really sharp.
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Flamingo on December 29, 2024, 06:35:58 PM
Looking very good! The printed colour scheme makes nice edge tapes.
Greetings Joachim
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 05, 2025, 09:55:53 AM
Thanks Nigel and Joachim!

Here are the wings ready.  I'll start struts next!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on January 05, 2025, 08:28:58 PM
Excellent progress. I've just started the CSM Nieuport 11 but I will be nowhere near as quick as you.....
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 11, 2025, 03:57:40 PM
Lovely, Nigel.  I'd like to see that! 

So I got the struts all made and added the wings to the little beast.  It went together with little fuss and now really looks like a Nieuport.  I did need to shorten the V-struts to get the correct dihedral.  As printed, the bottom wing was straight as a board.  Even though the pics don't look like it, I think it has the correct dihedral now. I need to figure out the geometry of the aileron bellcranks.  I always get things reversed so I'm trying to understand what those would look like with the ailerons off center.  From all my R/C days, I do know my ailerons match my joy stick so at least that's sorted!  ::)

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on January 11, 2025, 08:00:44 PM
Very nice, that really does look like a Nieuport 11. I'm interested to see how you handle the engine.....
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 12, 2025, 04:09:40 AM
Very nice, that really does look like a Nieuport 11. I'm interested to see how you handle the engine.....

Ha, ha!  So am I, Nigel... :o

Thanks for commenting.

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 12, 2025, 06:03:01 AM
Tiny update...rigging is complete!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Radarman on January 15, 2025, 01:46:57 AM
Well Dan,
This build is shaping up nicely. Your skills as a paper-smith are amazing!

                                                                                      Happy Modeling, Kevin
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 17, 2025, 02:46:44 PM
Thanks, Kevin.  Now I got the landing gear on.  Won't be long until I start the engine, cowling and Lewis gun. Darn nice little model and not complicated either.  A good first paper model/WWI choice!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Dirigible-Al on January 17, 2025, 05:01:29 PM
As with all your stuff this is looking like it's turning into a great little aeroplane.
Alan.
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on January 17, 2025, 07:17:56 PM
That is looking lovely. Although I suspect the engine and the cowling may be challenging in the medium of paper.....
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 18, 2025, 03:07:28 PM
As with all your stuff this is looking like it's turning into a great little aeroplane.
Alan.
Thanks, Alan.  It's a very straight forward build and just what the doctor ordered.  I'm actually building it along with a fire-breathing MiG-21 jet to compare the two fighters from different eras.  The little Nieuport is SOOOOOO much nicer and relaxing to build!  Really neat little model.

More soon...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 18, 2025, 03:10:09 PM
That is looking lovely. Although I suspect the engine and the cowling may be challenging in the medium of paper.....

Hi Nigel,

The engine is just repetitious but I'm going to try and fake some cooling fins this time for some extra detail.  The cowling is challenging and since it's curving in multiple ways, making it look good is tough.  We'll see what I do but likely I'll be filling, sanding and repainting it so it looks nice and smooth.  Time will tell!

Thanks for looking...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Gene K on January 19, 2025, 10:22:12 PM
... likely I'll be filling, sanding and repainting [the cowl] so it looks nice and smooth.

Best way, even though Paper Model purists will frown.  8)

Gene K
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on January 21, 2025, 02:16:03 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Flamingo on January 23, 2025, 01:51:55 AM
"good look" purists agree... ;D
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 01, 2025, 04:37:07 PM
That's true!  I guess anything to make things look good in the end...

I got the engine done and some more landing gear painting as well as wheels and tires.  Getting close to making the cowling!

Dan

Oh no...I just realized I have all that piping on the wrong side.  It's supposed to be on the front of the engine.  I guess I have more work to do!!!!  :P
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on February 01, 2025, 07:08:14 PM
I was going to say that's looking good, then...........doh!

Oh well, you get even more fun out of it  ;) :)
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 02, 2025, 05:02:13 AM
Thanks, Nigel.  Based on this shot, I think all I need to do is put the push rods behind the cylinders.  That's not too bad. I thought I'd need to move the copper manifolds too. 

Onward and upward!

Thanks for looking and commenting...Dan

P.S.  YOUR engine was AMAZING! :o
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 02, 2025, 05:21:48 AM
I get it now...in this model, the engine is a 9J rather than a 9C which has all the manifold piping up front.  The 9J had all of that on the rear.  Maybe there were some Nieuport 11s with the more powerful 9J?  Or maybe those were on the Nieuport 16?  Anyway, I think I'll leave it as is for this one...

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 03, 2025, 10:34:46 AM
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but...

After some more research, it turns out that there were two engines:  a 9C and a 9J (at least).  The latter was 110 hp while the former was 80 hp.  The 9C was in the Nieuport 11 while the 9J was in the 16 and beyond (more powerful).

The 9C had the push rods and that copper manifold in the front while the 9J had them in the back.

So...I rebuilt everything again and now it more accurately represents the engine in the Bebe.  I'm satisfied!

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: Radarman on February 03, 2025, 01:28:46 PM
Hi Dan,
You continue to display your magic abilities with paper. This is sure to be another great build.

                                                               Happy Modeling from Kevin in Port Orchard.
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on February 03, 2025, 07:35:12 PM
Got there in the end! This looks darned good for paper. I do find it easier working with 3D printed parts...... ;)

Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 09, 2025, 06:26:37 AM
Thanks, Kevin!  So here it is almost...ALMOST...done.  I need to get a good prop, maybe some spark plugs and a bit of post airbrush shading and weathering.  Lewis gun turned out nicely, though I'm dubious of the simplified wing attachment!

Looking good, though...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on February 10, 2025, 10:24:36 PM
Nice cowling! How did you make it....?
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 13, 2025, 02:50:22 PM
Thanks, Nigel!  The cowling comes as several strips you butt-glue together to make the basic shape.  It looks good, but I prefer to make the seams go away so I fill the inside with super glue and accelerator.  Then I simply lightly sand and add multiple layers of primer with sanding in between.  I only needed to add some filler to one small spot that kept cracking.  I think I put on something like 7 coats?  Anyway, it ends up looking like this with some aluminum paint sprayed on.  I do like it!  Should have done the same with the spoke covers.  Next time...

Thanks for looking and asking.

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: andonio64 on February 13, 2025, 06:10:50 PM
Wow Dan, you're a wizard of the paper kits!
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NigelR on February 13, 2025, 07:17:02 PM
I fill the inside with super glue and accelerator.  Then I simply lightly sand and add multiple layers of primer with sanding in between.  I only needed to add some filler to one small spot that kept cracking.  I think I put on something like 7 coats? 
Nice work! I realised one big advantage of a paper version of this plane - you don't have to mask those edging tapes..... ;D
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 18, 2025, 04:26:50 PM
I fill the inside with super glue and accelerator.  Then I simply lightly sand and add multiple layers of primer with sanding in between.  I only needed to add some filler to one small spot that kept cracking.  I think I put on something like 7 coats? 
Nice work! I realised one big advantage of a paper version of this plane - you don't have to mask those edging tapes..... ;D

Ha!  Actually...now that you mentioned it, I will be taping those off for a bit of airbrushing fun soon!  I need to break up the fuselage a bit.
More soon!

Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: RAGIII on March 01, 2025, 03:08:58 AM
I just went through your build log. Awesome work as always Dan!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 11 1/33rd Scale from Marek's Models (A repaint by Sergey Vlasenko)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 02, 2025, 04:00:10 PM
Thanks, Rick!  It was a really fun build and turned out darn nicely!
Dan