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The WW1 modelers' reference library => Engines => Topic started by: Rookie on November 09, 2024, 10:26:56 PM

Title: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Rookie on November 09, 2024, 10:26:56 PM

This is an odd setup.

Found it in ZEITSCHRIFT F?R FLUGTECHNIK UND MOTORLUFTSCHIFFAHRT' of 1919.

Has anyone seen this before?

Willem

(https://i.postimg.cc/fykS5C8M/Salmson-Motor-mit-Getriebe.jpg)

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Dirigible-Al on November 10, 2024, 02:21:22 AM

I would say this is the setup for a swivelling propeller on an airship. The British Parseval airships had them (but not with Salmson engines) as did the R23 class. It wouldn't suprise me if some French airships had the same thing given it's a Samson engine. The props could swivel to face down making the airship a helicopter of sorts. Whether or not the Germans, Italians or Americans did this I don't know.
Alan.

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Berman on November 26, 2024, 07:35:58 AM

 Here is this engine mounted in a Dorand biplane. Most likely a one of a kind experimental. I have no further information
            https://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft28861.htm#gallery-5

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Rookie on November 26, 2024, 07:46:24 AM

Thanks for this Barry!

I had no idea of how this horizontal setup could be used. Thanks for the picures and the link.

Willem

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Ark Royal2 on December 09, 2024, 02:38:25 AM

This is a 9 cylinder Salmson Canton-Unne Type V.  A 7 cylinder version of this engine was fitted to the single-engined Dorand Armoured Bomber prototype.

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: PJ Fisher on December 09, 2024, 02:48:59 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqD5DZkZ/aeroplane61914lond-0095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtyrzPMZ)

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Ark Royal2 on December 09, 2024, 10:13:46 PM

These images show the two-row 18 cylinder 2M7 (left), and the 9 cylinder Type D horizontal - a much more powerful unit than the previous horizontal types.

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Rookie on December 09, 2024, 11:53:59 PM

Thank you Alan, Berry, Paul and Ark Royal2 for the added information!

Willem

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: Thumbs up on December 10, 2024, 07:45:31 AM

Quote from: Berman on November 26, 2024, 07:35:58 AM

Here is this engine mounted in a Dorand biplane. Most likely a one of a kind experimental. I have no further information
            https://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft28861.htm#gallery-5

They look like they are vertical to me? I am old and my eyesight is a bit dodgy!

Title: Re: Horizontally mounted Salmson engine
Post by: PJ Fisher on December 10, 2024, 10:53:41 PM

Here's an example:
(https://i.postimg.cc/8k3zqKCQ/11-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)