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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on November 04, 2024, 12:13:32 AM
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So here is my current build - the newest Lukgraph version of BE.2c fully 3D-printed.
The preparation works are well under way, the surfaces are polished from delicate but still present traces of 3D print, the joints are armed with wire inserts, also the wings are reinforced with two solid sections of wire each.
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Your headline sent me rushing to the Lukgraph website and, alas, it's 1/32 :)
There's nothing wrong with the Airfix kit but I wouldn't mind a highly detailed B.E.2c in 1/72.
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Your headline sent me rushing to the Lukgraph website and, alas, it's 1/32 :)
There's nothing wrong with the Airfix kit but I wouldn't mind a highly detailed B.E.2c in 1/72.
Oh my... I am sorry, my mistype... It surely is 1/32. The header is corrected.
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I'm glad to see that my first real day back on the fourm since mid-September coincides with the kickoff of a new PrzemoL build... I'm greatly looking forward to following this one, my friend.
And Ehud, who knows what the future holds? With the explosion of 3DP kits it won't be long until someone puts out a new BE...
Dutch
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Yes, I'd initially seen the 1/72 header and passed by but will pay much greater attention now. I'm keen to see how the new 3D Lukgraphs work out. (Nothing against 1/72 but I don't tend to follow the early stages, although I love seeing the finished subjects taking shape.)
Sandy
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Good start Przemo, although this still looks like a challenging build. Will follow with interest.
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A small progress of today - 4 control horns for ailerons
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I am very excited to see this Prze!
What did you use to polish away the printing artefacts?
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That would also be intersting for me.
That 3D printing structurs scare me, especially on parts like motor or other delicate structures. Do you have some honest pre- and post-polishing pictures in order to see the effect? I would guess, it is highly depending on camera/light angels.
However, thank you so much for this new thread :)
Rafael
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Looks like you're off to a solid start, Przemol! I really enjoy seeing how some of you guys drill and pin more positive connection points since that's a technique with which I've experienced mixed results. I'll be paying close attention to this topic of yours since I've got a Lukgraph Halberstadt in the stash and hope to add some more of their kits soon.
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I am very excited to see this Prze!
What did you use to polish away the printing artefacts?
I am using several grades of sand paper.
That would also be intersting for me.
That 3D printing structurs scare me, especially on parts like motor or other delicate structures. Do you have some honest pre- and post-polishing pictures in order to see the effect? I would guess, it is highly depending on camera/light angels.
However, thank you so much for this new thread :)
Rafael
The traces are barely visible, hard to photograph. But mayby here you will notice the difference between raw and polished strut. And the untreated element still not removed from the printing tree.
They are most notable in the sound you hear when polishing, clearly indicating the regular roughness of the surface.
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Looks like you're off to a solid start, Przemol! I really enjoy seeing how some of you guys drill and pin more positive connection points since that's a technique with which I've experienced mixed results. I'll be paying close attention to this topic of yours since I've got a Lukgraph Halberstadt in the stash and hope to add some more of their kits soon.
Those butt joints require reinforcement, especially the control surfaces which will later be pulled by the control lines.
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Thank you very much for the detailed pictures, highly appreciated!!
Best regards,
Rafael
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Elevator and rudder control horns
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Very impressive work on those control horns!
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Thanks, Nigel.
The remaining control horns are ready. There will be some cheating with the rear rudder bar, its tips popping out of the fuselage will be modelled as separate bits and the main bar element fitted under the pilot seat (kit PE element modified) which is completely hidden is a pure guesswork, but needed only to provide the assembly points for the cables running in the cockpit from the pilot rudder bar.
I have also scratch built the pilot seat cushion as there was no wicker seat in the original.
Also the self made eyelets for the interior rigging were attached.
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Nice work Prze!
Cheers,
Gary
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Amazing modelling skills. Creating such beautifully engineered tiny parts is way beyond me. This will be lovely I am sure.
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Looks like you're off to a solid start, Przemol! I really enjoy seeing how some of you guys drill and pin more positive connection points since that's a technique with which I've experienced mixed results. I'll be paying close attention to this topic of yours since I've got a Lukgraph Halberstadt in the stash and hope to add some more of their kits soon.
Hi Vickers,
PDF might be of use for your Halberstadt,
Mike
https://mikesww1aircraftmodels.com/index_html_files/HALB-D.II.pdf (https://mikesww1aircraftmodels.com/index_html_files/HALB-D.II.pdf)
For the BE2c
https://mikesww1aircraftmodels.com/index_html_files/BE2c.pdf (https://mikesww1aircraftmodels.com/index_html_files/BE2c.pdf)
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Thanks, Nigel and Gary.
Thanks, Mike, for the link to your build logs. I am surely going to follow your hints on BE.2c, even though the new 3D print version has some spots corrected.
And a small progress - a couple of new wire inserts to stabilize the wing tip protective hoops. And the too narrow bulkheads widened with thin plastic strips added.
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Great job so far, I?m following with interest and no small amount of envy! :)
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Looks like you are off to a great start.
I'm sorry if I missed this point if you already mentioned it, but are the PE reinforcements for the control horns part of the kit?
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Thank you, William and Kensar.
Looks like you are off to a great start.
I'm sorry if I missed this point if you already mentioned it, but are the PE reinforcements for the control horns part of the kit?
All the metal parts you see in the photos are from the kit PE fret. Kit instructions suggest glueing them in pairs but I find it still to be too thin. And besides that, there is a problem with drilling the holes for the eyelets. That is why I opted for a laminate of the kit supplied PE bit(s) and a thin plastic strips - it is much easier to drill the holes in the latter ones.
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Todays progress on the interior. The instrument panel has the scratch built oil indicator pipe - made from a streched clear sprue and bits of self adhesive metal foil.
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Assembly started. The seats and the main tank are not yet attached firmly.
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Interior is almost ready.
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... and it is almost perfect!
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ciao
Edo
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You are very kind, Edo.
Fuselage closed! Quite a lot is visible from the cockpits but not easy to take a decent photo.
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Very nice interior!
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Stunning work on the interior, I really like the oil indicator, very effective and well worth doing. I hope it's visible.......
This is clearly going to be an exceptional build.
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Bravo Prze, this is utterly gorgeous so far!
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Thank you, gentlemen.
In the meantime I have prepared the RAF1a engine, adding the electric wires and little extensions on the supports so that it now nicely sits on the bearers.
The colours will be subdued with wash and dirt soon.
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Exceptional work on the engine Prezm!
Great build overall. Again.
Willem
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The RAF1a came up nicely.
Will really look the part once "Bedded".
Cheers,
Hugh
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Lovely work on the engine!
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Airbrushing, decaling, shading...
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Incredibly clean and tidy work Prz.
Alan.
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Stunning!
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Slow progress - struts, ammo bin, Lewis, tail skid, more colours...
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It's a joy to look at your in progress pictures Przemo, they really are stunning. Really enjoying your work on this.
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This is beautiful work, Przemo. I particularly like your shading effects, done with an airbrush, I presume? It is favourite subject of mine too, and is a very important aircraft in South African history, so I will be following intently! A very enjoyable build!
Regards,
Marc
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Thanks, Nigel and Marc. And yes, shading is actually postshading done with airbrush.
Now, wash is done on the fuselage and cabane struts, and a test fit of lower wings and one stabiliser for a taste.
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Superb work, Prze!
Merry Christmas ;)
BB
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nice work Przemek! Wesolych Swiat!
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Beautiful work there !
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Wow stunning! Impressed with the speed of your build ;D
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Thank you, gentlemen.
Well, the speed has actually slowed down. I found a problem with interplane struts - they are about 2.5mm too short. I am working on the replacement. Also another small side project took the space at the bench. And the long awaited winter/summer holidays are coming - I will surely return to this build but not earlier than in February...
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Just went through this build log from the beginning. I can't say enough about how beautiful this one is!
RAGIII
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Great looking BE Prz.
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@PrzemoL
This is going to be a beautiful model - great what you are creating here, excellent work as always from you.
I have the full-printed version of the Halberstadt D.II from Lukgraph on my shelf - unfortunately I'm not very convinced by the quality of the kit, but that's another story.
Servus
Bertl
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Finally back to this build.
Restart with the interplane struts - new set of too short ones, each cut into two, plastic insert, wire reinforcement, cleaning of the joints, skewing of the ends to adjust them to the inclined connection with the wings, airbrushing, and a ready new set of 8 pieces, lengthened by 2.5mm each.
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Your struts look absolutely perfect, Prze. That seems like an incredible amount of work to correct the dimensional error. Hats off to you.
Cheers,
Gary
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Wow those struts look like Chippendale made them !
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OUTSTANDING JOB... Przemek is back on the right track ;D
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That is superb modelling. And the wood finish is totally awesome, bravo!
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Thanks for your kind comments.
Yesterday I made a cardboard jig and today I took my courage to connect the lower wings with the fuselage. The joints are minimal, so I suppose it will need all the struts, the upper wings and the rigging, at least the landing lines, before I can safely take it from the jig.
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The corrected struts look marvellous, well done!
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Just love the look of the plane! You are doing a marvelous job ;D
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Looking really good, I hope it all holds together throughout the rest of the build......
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Masterful work
Sandy
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Thank you.
Small but significant progress. Cabane struts attached. The centrepiece just rests dryfit to keep the geometry.
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And more preps for the upper wing assembly. The windscreens, the windows and the fuel tank strap attached.
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More lovely work, it's good to see this coming together....
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Thanks, Nigel.
Upper wing under assembly
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The metal around the glass is remarkable. How is it made, foil, paint, PE?
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The metal around the glass is remarkable. How is it made, foil, paint, PE?
Thanks. These are the kit PE bits, airbrushed silver.
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Excellent!!!
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Top notch modeling here! Looking great.
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Great progress Prz.
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Thanks!
Operation upper wing has started! It must be done carefully and without removing the model from the jig, because the connection points between the lower wing and the fuselage are very delicate. I put all my trust in the strength of rigging to tighten it all.
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And the struts are now squeezed in.
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Gently does it..... This is excellent progress, it's very exciting to see this all coming together.
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As always clean and precise work! Terrific progress.
RAGIII
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Easy... Easy... with no false moves ;D ;D ;D
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Rigging underway. But the best news is that the lines hold the weight of the wings and reinforce satisfactorily the wing cellule.
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excellent.
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Great news and the rigging is looking Terrific!
RAGIII
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Beautiful!
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This is looking really, really good. Glad the rigging is going well.
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Thank you, again.
Well, the wings rigging is finished. Now to tail feathers...
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Very impressive! I do love this aircraft. Just wish there was a plastic version in 1/32nd scale, or better yet a BE12!
RAGIII
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Thank you, Rick. You are right BE.12 would make for a great model, too.
But for the time being, BE.2c, step by step...
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More awesome with every Update!
RAGIII
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Indeed, this looks better and better every day. I love those markings!
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Thanks!
Tail feathers complete. Work on ailerons and undercarriage under way.
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And on its feet...
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Wow, that looks amazing.
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Hi Przemo.
What type of paint did you use for fuselage painting ?
Very nice paint work.
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Loverly Prez, I have a Rodan BE.2c 1/48 I want to look just like this !!
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Stunning work!
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So beautyful!
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This looks tremendous. I?ve been admiring it on FB as well. So inspiring!
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Nearly there...... Another stunning piece of work in progress.
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Thank you, everyone. :)
Hi Przemo.
What type of paint did you use for fuselage painting ?
Very nice paint work.
I suppose you mean the linen colour...
It is my usual approach with Pactra Mid Stone as a base, then postshading with Clear tinted slightly with Vallejo Beige Brown, then brownish wash. :)
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Simply Stunning Przemo! You are really turning Me into a Fan of the Be!
RAGIII
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Thank you, Rick.
The ailerons attached and connected with cables.
Exhausts minus the vertical stacks attached, so is the step and the wing tip hoops.
Closer and closer...
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Brilliant.
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Wow! what a model ;D
Also looks to quite big!
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I envy your airbrush skills. That fabric effect is beautiful!
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Many thanks for watching and commenting so kindly.
The build is finished. A couple of quick mobile phone photos, a proper gallery soon.
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Superb work all round. Looking forward to the completed gallery.....
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Stunning job has been done... I can't wait to see in normal life on some contest
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Simply superb - as usual!
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Thank you.
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Extremely good looking!
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Incredibly well done PrzemoL, a pleasure to look at!
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As always, I enjoyed following your Incredible Build!
RAGIII
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Another PrzemoL masterpiece. They just keep coming.
Alan.
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Thank you!
And here is a possible last instalment, the propeller carved from Kotebi veneers. Though I am not sure yet, if I dare to remove the kit one and transplant the PE boss plates.
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That's already beautiful, Prze!
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Thanks Zac.
The final touch - the replaced propeller on
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Lovely!
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Bravo, my BE.2 in the stash will look similar to this, thanks !!
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That prop really made a great build that much better!
RAGIII
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Thank you, gentlemen.
Bravo, my BE.2 in the stash will look similar to this, thanks !!
Looking forward to see you take on this kit, Allan!
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I won't be doing this kit, mine is the Rodan in 1/48 scale, loving all the CDL and multiple roundels.
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The model is made with such care and reverence that I can only sigh. I hope I will be able to reach a similar level. My congratulations.
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Thanks, Allan and Łukasz.
The model is made with such care and reverence that I can only sigh. I hope I will be able to reach a similar level. My congratulations.
But here you are kidding, my friend... With your amazing builds which I saw in real you have long surpassed this level of mine...
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That's an absolute beauty Prze and I've really enjoyed following along with your progress through the build 8)
Thanks
Paul
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This build is really beautiful, and your photography is just awesome.
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Really beautiful. excellently built!
Servus
Bertl