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Title: Hurricane Helene: Hurricane Milton: Fl. Modelers Check in when You Can.
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2024, 12:54:18 PM
So amazingly Hurricane Helene Impacted the Western NC. Mountains In a Terrible way. Devastating Destruction in Many areas. I was fortunate in that although I have had No Electricity, My House and property had No Damage. I was offline until I decided to go to a Hotel today. The damage in My area is really bad but Asheville and Hendersonville are worse. I believe Kensar , a forum Member lives there. So I Hope He and Family are well!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Rookie on September 30, 2024, 04:54:01 PM
Hi Rick,

First of all, I'm glad you are o.k. and I hope Ken(sar) is too.

Hurricane Helene is all over the news in The Netherlands. What amazes us here is that it has taken so many casualties (91 and counting).

This is a devastating hurricane. Over here we get the occasional rain storm, with streets flooded, but it is nothing compared to what you guys must endure!

My thoughts are with you.

Willem
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: NigelR on September 30, 2024, 05:27:58 PM
Glad you are OK Rick. I never realised how extreme the weather can be in the US until I lived there for a couple of years. I hope your stash is kept in safe and secure storm-proof storage......
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Vickers on September 30, 2024, 08:34:57 PM
Glad you're okay, Rick. I suppose that a lot of people see the spectacular images of hurricanes from satellites and the hurricane hunters and don't consider what's gonna happen inland. Hopefully, we'll hear from Kensar soon.
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: macsporran on September 30, 2024, 09:54:41 PM
Sorry to hear about this, I was totally unaware of the hurricane, but glad you're OK.

Usually in Scotland we have foul (fouler) weather at this time of year but actually, although cold, we've had a couple of weeks of blazing sunshine highlighting all the glorious autumn colours. Poor old England has been having horrendous floods and continuing downpours but up here it's been beautiful. (I only write this because it makes a change, for once!)

Sandy
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2024, 11:39:41 PM
Thanks Guys, what made it worse in the NC Mountains was that Helene was preceded by almost three days of steady pouring rain. Thus the ground was saturated, the creeks, streams, and urban drainage systems were already full, then 14 to 16 inches of more rain. The winds knocked down thousands of trees and the floods were devastating.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Juan on October 01, 2024, 02:00:08 AM
Glad to hear you are good Rick, in Tallahassee, FL we dodged the brunt of it, but our neighbors to the east bore the worst of the hurricane.  It was weird, we did not lose power the night of landfall, but lost power from 9 AM to sometime after midnight.  Hope everyone in the path of Helene are OK.  Regards, Juan
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Brad Cancian on October 01, 2024, 06:41:04 PM
Glad to hear you are ok Rick - extreme weather events seem to be an increasing thing, including here in Australia. Stay safe, everyone!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Pep111 on October 04, 2024, 09:14:26 AM
I live in North Lake, Anderson County in up state S.C. We just now got our electricity on today. I got A updated text yesterday from Duke Energy saying that they have replaced or repaired six thousand power poles in our area since the storm hit. Luckily we had no damage. Hope every one else is doing well.
PEP111
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2024, 09:33:28 AM
I live in North Lake, Anderson County in up state S.C. We just now got our electricity on today. I got A updated text yesterday from Duke Energy saying that they have replaced or repaired six thousand power poles in our area since the storm hit. Luckily we had no damage. Hope every one else is doing well.
PEP111

Glad you are OK. My Electric came back on today at about 5PM. Feeling very Fortunate considering what Many in My area are going through. Many have lost Homes and some their lives! Six days without power doesn't seem so bad when that is considered!
Thanks for all of the concern.
rAGIII
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: RAGIII on October 07, 2024, 08:59:08 AM
I heard from Ken ( Kensar), today on FB. He just got his power and Internet back. He and his wife and Home are fine!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Rookie on October 07, 2024, 11:52:24 AM
Ah, that it great news Rick!

Thanks for relaying it.

Willem
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 08, 2024, 12:58:30 AM
Happy that all seems to be well (as could be expected) for you now !!!

Ed
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: kensar on October 09, 2024, 11:37:15 PM
I thought my ears were burning!  I live in Hendersonville, which is in the middle of the hard hit area.  I was fortunate in that there was no damage to my house, but I did go for 9 days without power, internet, or cell phone service.  9 days without power will make you appreciate a hot shower!  There is a lot of damage and the area will not fully recover for many months.  Asheville's water system was totally wrecked - they have it worse than us.  Little by little, things are returning to a functional level.
Thanks for thinking about me and everyone here in western NC.  I am working on a model ( a tank of all things!) in between the cleanup and normalization activities.  I have been dropping in and lurking from time to time and at some point I will return with a WW1 model.

Ken Mouton
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: RAGIII on October 10, 2024, 01:06:04 AM
Like I said on FB, Glad you came through alright. Terrible Loss of life and damage. Some places will Never be the same.
Rick Geisler
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene
Post by: Rookie on October 10, 2024, 07:07:01 PM
I hope Milton will be less devastating.

This is what the Dutch national news wrote about it:

Milton made landfall around 2:30 a.m. Dutch time in Siesta Key, just south of the city of Tampa, as a third-category hurricane with wind speeds of up to 200 kilometers per hour. Milton was still a Category 5 hurricane earlier this week.

Milton has since weakened over land to a first-category hurricane, with wind gusts to over 150 kilometers per hour. Meanwhile, the threat of casualties and flood damage remains as high as ever due to continued heavy rainfall and storm surge.

United States Correspondent, Rudy Bouma:

“Even though the hurricane is now weakening, it could still lead to great devastation. For example, it is not yet clear how high the water will rise. And nearly three million people are without power. That can't be repaired until it's safe to hit the streets again. That also applies to the water supply, which has been cut off in some places. I don't expect there will be a really clear picture of the damage until it gets light soon.
In addition, there is tension between the federal government in Washington and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a seasoned Republican. With President Biden, the folds have since been ironed out, but not with DeSantis and Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Harris. They accuse each other of misusing the hurricane politically. Disaster relief is also a politically tricky issue so close to the presidential election. With then-President Bush things went wrong because of his flawed approach around Katrina; his successor Obama actually scored with his response to Sandy. It can make or break candidates.”


Across the state, some 125 homes were destroyed even before Milton made landfall, most of them mobile homes.
Overnight, the Tampa Bay Rays baseball stadium in St. Petersburg was damaged. The roof of Tropicana Field blew off. Several construction cranes also collapsed in that city. As of yet, there do not appear to have been any casualties.
Milton is currently moving past Orlando, to leave the US later today via eastern Florida. Flooding is especially feared due to rising water levels. Flood warnings have been issued for nearly 2 million people in Tampa, St. Petersburg and Clearwater, among others.

Weatherman Marco Verhoef explained that some 250 to 400 millimeters of precipitation is expected:

“Florida is quite flat and then when you consider that in the Netherlands in an entire year some 900 millimeters fall, so a little less than half of that falls there in one day. If this happened in the Netherlands, the water would be at our lips as well. And there the precautionary measures are also often just a little less than in the Netherlands. In addition, seawater is also pushed up from the Gulf of Mexico. So in total it's about as many as three or four flood chances.” Also at risk is debris from tornadoes, among other things, which can fly around or be swept away by the water."

Tornadoes not unusual

According to Verhoef, those many tornadoes that accompanied Milton's landfall in Florida were “not entirely unusual.” Verhoef:

“A hurricane like that is actually a cluster of a lot of showers together. The air at the top is very cold and the air on the ground is very warm. There's a lot of moisture, so there's a lot of energy. Then heavy thunderstorms can easily form. spinning around the hurricane's core. And in such a severe thunderstorm, a tornado is not very unusual. You just never know exactly where it will come.”

Aftermath Helene

Although massive and urgent evacuation calls were made early this week, the advice to residents of the state right now is mainly to stay where they are now. It is too dangerous to seek shelter elsewhere at this time, according to emergency officials. According to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, more than 70,000 people have sought shelter.

Florida and surrounding states are still recovering from Hurricane Helene, which swept over the area only two weeks ago. That one claimed the lives of at least 230 people.
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene: Hurricane Milton: Fl. Modelers Check in when You Can.
Post by: lone modeller on October 15, 2024, 01:58:08 AM
Very pleased to read that all of you in SC are safe and well - but from the news Florida has also been having a bad time.

I hope that any of our members who are/have been affected by these storms are safe and well and that damage to homes and property is minimal. Here in the UK we do get high winds sometimes, and we have had lots of rain, but generally we are well off compared with some.

Good luck and best wishes to all.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Hurricane Helene: Hurricane Milton: Fl. Modelers Check in when You Can.
Post by: RAGIII on October 15, 2024, 08:18:42 AM
Very pleased to read that all of you in SC are safe and well - but from the news Florida has also been having a bad time.

I hope that any of our members who are/have been affected by these storms are safe and well and that damage to homes and property is minimal. Here in the UK we do get high winds sometimes, and we have had lots of rain, but generally we are well off compared with some.

Good luck and best wishes to all.

Stephen.

Thanks, and Yes Fl. was hit hard in some places by Helene but more so from Milton. By the way, Ken and I are in the other Carolina to the North of SC. We are both also in the Mountains that were Devastated.
RAGIII