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The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => Topic started by: Vickers on August 31, 2024, 05:28:07 AM
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I started putting the stuff for this one together in late May, but I've been having a hard time getting started for several reasons. I was thinking that I'd hold out and see if I could source some Pheon decals for B'525 as flown by Rhys-Davids so that I could match it up with my Roden "Voss" F.1, but after pursuing that issue from every angle I can think of I haven't been able to find any examples of that 1/32nd sheet on eBay, etc. So, I suppose that I'll settle on Lord which is the same option Dave built using the WNW decals.
As he often said to me over the years, "just build the thing!" My other issue is once I had all of the Gaspatch and other aftermarket stuff together and started reducing the sprues, I would just freeze and get very little done so my chances of getting this one finished in time for the GB window are diminishing. However, I am resolved to keep this one on the bench, forsaking all others, until such time as it is ready for the display case. Meanwhile, I just wanted to plant my flag with a few images to get started. The kit, my phone screen with date, and some fun pics that Sally snapped while we were all in Las Vegas a few years ago:
Dave(R) and I at Hobbytown USA:
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Dave(left) and I(right) with Jeff Garrity(center) at his Rareplane Detective warehouse store. I couldn't walk out of there without the Revell 1/72nd 3-kit Sopwith Camel/Fokker E.III/Morane Saulnier N combo, which was the first Great War kit that I ever "built" when I was a kid and remains sealed in the original plastic wrap:
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The kit:
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My phone with a smidgeon of the box:
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I hope to overcome my modeler's block and get started on the S.E.5a soon.
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Great bit of background there Vickers now get it out of the box and start adding paint and glue ;D (Just kidding I'm the last one to be talking about making a start since I regularly spend an enjoyable evening going through 'possible' kits and not actually doing anything productive)
Look forward to seeing this one come together. Hopefully some decals will appear in a timely manner and if not I'm sure Dave would be delighted to see another Se5a grace the building board
Paul
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I really wish I had a Wingnut S.E.5a!
If you really rather want to build the Rhys Davids machine, I think I can help you out with masks so that you can paint it all. It's not the most complicated scheme. But - no pressure!
Cheers
Fredrik
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Thanks for sharing the background, it only makes it more important for you to get this one done for the GB ;). Looking forward to seeing how you progress with this one, as I have one in the stash.
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Thank you for the wonderful story Vickers - this looks like it will be a tribute with a very personal connection for you :) Though Dave and I spoke regularly on e-mail and the telephone, I never had the privilege of meeting him face to face.
Looking forward to seeing more of this one!
Cheers,
BC
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Perfect choice and a nice personal touch.
Dave's favourite plane, my favourite plane - surely everybody's favourite plane!
Sandy
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Thanks for your kind and inspiring comments, everyone. Dave and I had been in regular contact via social media and the Far Flung Modelers email group for over 20 years and coping with his passing has been quite difficult. I hope that he understood how well-liked and respected he was among our community.
I really wish I had a Wingnut S.E.5a!
If you really rather want to build the Rhys Davids machine, I think I can help you out with masks so that you can paint it all. It's not the most complicated scheme. But - no pressure!
Cheers
Fredrik
Thanks, Fredrik. I wish I had an extra one that I could send to you! I'm intrigued by your mask suggestion and I think it would be fun to try that since I've never used masks for markings before. Shall I send you a PM to explore the idea?
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Hi Vickers!
Yes, send me a PM and we'll 'talk' some more about this.
/F
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Yes Vickers, get at it, a wonderful choice to honor Dave's memory! I'm doing the same model in a different scheme and will be posting a few photos of the first installment of the Build Log before this weekend is done; we have plenty of time to complete our tributes. Like Brad I never met Dave personally however several years of working closely with him starting when he stepped up to continue the Forum when we lost our founder, Des, will never leave me, he was a great and unforgettable friend.
The Rhys David's machine scheme is a great choice, I did my second one in it using the Pheon sheet; you should pursue the masks Fredrik has kindly offered to help you with; it only requires the aircraft S/N, the quartered wheel covers, and fuselage and wing letters "I" to do the job. I'm looking forward to following your progress and hopefully can glean a few hints along the way!
Cheers,
Lance
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Great background. You are lucky to have Met David in person! You are wise to take up Fredrik about the masks. Having used several he created for Me I can say he is reasonable in price, and they are easy to use! I am looking forward to your SE5a build!
RAGIII
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Great background. You are lucky to have Met David in person! You are wise to take up Fredrik about the masks. Having used several he created for Me I can say he is reasonable in price, and they are easy to use! I am looking forward to your SE5a build!
RAGIII
Thanks, Rick. I fully intend to and I will make it worth his while. I suppose that once I have B'525 finished I will have to build Voss' F.1 so that I can display them together.
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Just getting started, at last. I don't have a Fawcett vertical fin correction, so I attempted to recreate the appearance of the tapes on the elevators by gluing down some synthetic hair, putting seven small dots of evenly spaced clear glue along that, and then taping over it once dry. Long ago, I had fashioned a dual bladed tape cutter and luckily I kept it handy. So, although not perfect, I think the tapes will look okay under a coat of paint from a few feet away:
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On to one of my favorite parts, painting out the woodgrain and fabric in the interior.
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You have certainly achieved what you were going for! Well done!
RAGIII
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That rib tape looks really good. Fortunately I have some rib tape decals that HGW produced a while back (but afaik they don't do any more).
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That does the trick. Looking forward to wood.
/Fredrik
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Thanks for your encouraging comments, gentlemen! I've just finished preparing the parts for paint which mostly involves stufying the instruction booklet and a procedure that I call "optimizing the sprue". I'm sure that lots of modelers do this. For me, it helps to organize the parts such that painting them is efficient, reduces the potential for forgetting parts requiring the same finish on other sprues and having to reload the airbrush with the same color(s) repeatedly, and I wouldn't want to put them all back in the box so it commits me to the build. Reducing the sprues in this fashion also imbues a largely false sense of progress which is good for my morale. There was a great Chinese takeout restaurant where I used to live and since the plastic containers have tops they keep parts and subassemblies safe, dust-free, and tend to starve the carpet monster.
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Excellent! You are way too organized for Me :o
RAGIII
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Excellent! You are way too organized for Me :o
RAGIII
That's funny since for every 1/32nd WWI model that I've built you've built a couple dozen. I do this sort of stuff because in the past I had a bad habit of getting way ahead of myself and then thinking "dammit! I should've done this or that before I did that other thing."
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Way too organised for me as well! I start well but then end up with bits and pieces spread all over the place with the carpet monster lurking......
Looking forward to seeing more.
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So, since FAf offered to create some paint masks for the machine that I wish to depict my spirits have been soaring and my modeling mojo appears to have returned. Just about finished with the interior- just needs the flight control cables, a wash, a bit of drybrush highlighting, and flat coat. Since the instrument bezels are flat I'll just hit them with a dab of gloss and then close her up.
Initial test fit seems very promising and I was relieved- thrilled even- to see that the Gaspatch Vickers MG fits in there perfectly both in diameter and length. I might just bring this one over the finish line before the DWMGB ends!
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A very neat interior.
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That is looking very nice so far, keep that mojo and crack on with the build!
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Lovely work. Your organizational skills too!
Sandy
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Thank you gentlemen, thank you! I've put the left fuselage half in place and just finished installing the flight control cables. There was some profanity involved, but I think I'll be glad to have done it.
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Beautiful. Neat and clean interior. Rigging the control cables on this one was a challenge for me. Glad to hear you got it under control!
RAGIII
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Beautiful. Neat and clean interior. Rigging the control cables on this one was a challenge for me. Glad to hear you got it under control!
RAGIII
Thanks, Rick. I had a heck of a time getting light into that area under the back of the seat to pass the rigging through. Then you have to jimmy the other fuselage half into position, which in theory should go smoothly, but from the engine bearers to the seat back there's high potential for conflict. I managed to get it together and expect to post another update tomorrow.
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Great work and important steps on the way forward!
The masks are on their way to you, as of this morning.
/Fredrik
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Great work and important steps on the way forward!
The masks are on their way to you, as of this morning.
/Fredrik
Thanks, Fredrik! I truly appreciate your assistance.
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This morning and a pot of coffee later, I installed the final details in the cockpit. Trigger cables for the Vickers and Lewis from the trigger box down either side of the stick and up under the instrument panel to their respective termini, the paired copper wires for the (throttle?) levers on the port sill running from underneath down to the deck thence forward to the firewall, and the two small turnbuckles that extend from near the base of the joystick to points under the seat. Then I fiddled around with the upper cockpit fairing and managed to push it in forward and then laid down the aft part without anything breaking or pinging off. It was a frightfully tight fit, though. If I ever get another opportunity to build this kit, I will shave down the inside of the aft edge of the upper cockpit piece where it meets the seat bulkhead before I paint it.
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Lovely work, the interior looks even better now, and great attention to detail with things like the trigger cables.
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Thanks, NigelR!
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IP and the rest of the interior look Fantastic!
RAGIII
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IP and the rest of the interior look Fantastic!
RAGIII
Thanks, Rick. I was so focused on getting everything to fit that I went ahead and buttoned up the fuselage then realized that I forgot to do any drybrushing/highlights in there. So, I had to do it in situ with the tinest bit of sponge applicator that I could fasion.
If memory serves, you've built one or more of this kit. I'm working on the motor at the moment and I'm inclined to mount it and close up the nose prior to attaching the struts, upper wing, and undercarriage. That's the order of assembly to which I've become accustomed. However, the instructions call for the motor and engine panels to be among the last items to go in, but that sounds quite risky to me and it would make the exterior much more tedious to paint. Do you have any advice for me on this order of construction issue?
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IP and the rest of the interior look Fantastic!
RAGIII
Thanks, Rick. I was so focused on getting everything to fit that I went ahead and buttoned up the fuselage then realized that I forgot to do any drybrushing/highlights in there. So, I had to do it in situ with the tinest bit of sponge applicator that I could fasion.
If memory serves, you've built one or more of this kit. I'm working on the motor at the moment and I'm inclined to mount it and close up the nose prior to attaching the struts, upper wing, and undercarriage. That's the order of assembly to which I've become accustomed. However, the instructions call for the motor and engine panels to be among the last items to go in, but that sounds quite risky to me and it would make the exterior much more tedious to paint. Do you have any advice for me on this order of construction issue?
It has been a while since I built Mine. I pretty much always close up the cowl panels/ Engine covers on My builds so pretty sure I closed mine up ASAP.
RAGIII
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Thanks again, Rick. I tested fitted everything on the nose with the motor in place and it looks like everything's going to work. I did end up thinning the channels in the upper cowling, but now it sits flush on the fuselage sides so I'm real happy about that.
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Wow! Seriously impressive interior paintwork there.
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Thanks, Tim!
Here's where I am as of close of business this evening. Got the nose all taped together from the inside and rib tape masking applied. Preshading first and then it'll be time to bring on the PC10! I'll do that first and then mask off the trim underneath the wings and go for the doped linen.
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I spent yesterday's bench time painting & washing the propeller and putting the base color on the exhausts, then filled-sanded-polished areas on the fuselage that required attention. Mainly on the underside of the fuselage and around the headrest fairing. I also shaved down some round toothpicks to create wedge tips that would fit snugly into the holes for the cabane struts in the upper wing in order to elevate it a few millimeters to protect fresh paint and the curved ends of the brass bits hanging over the trailing edge. Then I masked off a few areas around the forward fuselage where I wanted some hard edges on the preshading. Hopefully, under a coat of PC10, the effect will be subtle.
This morning, I broke out the Vertigo biplane jig and got everything lined up best I could. The white board behind the jig is aligned with the cutting matt and provides an extra reference for checking the alignment. I anticipate that the struts will indicate where any slight adjustments to the jig may be necessary, but that'll be a week or so away since I'm going to take my time with the exterior paints and markings. With any luck, if I can maintain a steady pace, I'll have her finished before the group build window closes.
Cheers and happy modeling everyone!
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And the progress on the dangly bits. I used some thinned white canopy glue to wrap some bits of corrugated paper towel over the cabane struts and when the glue was dry I inundated the material with a spray of Pledge with Future Shine acrylic, diluted 1:1 with 91% alcohol. Then after imbibing a bit of alcohol myself, I BS'd some wrap lines on there with a pencil. I don't think it's going to show up much under a coat of paint, but no guts no glory... right? ::)
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If you've made it this far, I have a question for you. I like the color of the interplane struts, but should I keep them matte finished or do you think they'd look better with a shinier satin finish?
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Great strides forward and lots of good looking details! I really like the propeller and I think the struts would benefit from a coat of satin varnish.
Cheers
Fredrik
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Great strides forward and lots of good looking details! I really like the propeller and I think the struts would benefit from a coat of satin varnish.
Cheers
Fredrik
Thanks, FAf. That's what I was thinking, too. Based on the photos of the TVAL S.E.5a I think that the interplane struts and propeller should have a satin finish. In the morning, I'll be preshading with Floquil's RLM81 Braunviolet on the fuselage and uppers. I'll use their warm concrete on the undersides of the wings. It'll be a tedious session with the airbrush, very likely. I might not get to the overcoats until the following day.
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Agree with Fredrik, Prop looks outstanding and a bit of gloss on the struts.
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Nearly there, Vickers!
Keep up the good work ;)
Bob
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Agree with Fredrik, Prop looks outstanding and a bit of gloss on the struts.
Thanks, Allan31. It seems we are all of like mind- satin finish for the interplane struts and I'll be dulling down the high gloss on the prop.
Nearly there, Vickers!
Keep up the good work ;)
Bob
Thanks, Bob. I'm really hoping to make the deadline since I was three or more months' delayed in starting. Doing around 6 or so hours daily now.
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Lovey work all round and another vote for satin on the struts.
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Thanks, NigelR.
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This beastie was a serious masking tape hog yesterday, but as of this morning the basic exterior paint in enamels is finished. The apparent difference between the CDL colors on the wings, ailerons, and elevators were caused by my lighting. For the uppers, I used a preshade of Floquil's RLM81 Braunviolet with an overcast of Xtracolor PC-10 Khaki. Below, Floquil's Butternut and their Warm Concrete, then oversprayed with a thin layer of their Grime. Like White Ensign Models paints, I find that the Xtracolor enamels require about 24hrs to dry.
I expect to start working with the ultra crisp masks that were produced by FAf, to which I've laid down registration marks for repositioning during the paint cycle. It'll be the first time I've used masks for an entire model and I'm really looking forward to it! Thanks again, FAf.
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Paints:
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FAf's wicked masks:
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Excellent progress!
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More very nice work, and have fun with the masks. They look really effective on Fredrik's builds.
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Looks like you're all set to give the masks a go!? It'll be a walk in the park for you!
I really like the idea of undercoating with RLM 81. I'll borrow that for some future build.
/Fredrik
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Well, I think that my first ever attempt at using vinyl masks for all of the major markings on a model was about 90% successful (images below). My hat's off to FAf, the masks he designed and produced for me were absolutely bang on in terms of dimensions and proportions. I did get some holidays and underspray in certain spots, but between the rib tapes and the wrinkles in the fabric it still turned out better than I had feared. Gonna respond to your latest comments prior to the images...
Excellent progress!
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Thanks, Bob! This was a nine hour day and it went by in a flash.
More very nice work, and have fun with the masks. They look really effective on Fredrik's builds.
Thanks, Nigel R. I have some practice to do before I become anywhere near as deft with the masks as some guys here, especially Fredrik.
Looks like you're all set to give the masks a go!? It'll be a walk in the park for you!
I really like the idea of undercoating with RLM 81. I'll borrow that for some future build.
/Fredrik
Thanks, Fredrik. I ended up with some boo boos which I'll count down to inexperience and address with a fine brush. I generally prefer to preshade with a color that's just a bit darker than the intended finish color and Floquil's RLM 81 seemed like it would be a good one to use with Xtracolor's PC-10.
So, here's my initial result with Fredrik's masks. Paints used were Floquil's Japanese Navy Light Grey (a couple of passes to cover the PC-10 and CDL and provide a light foundation for the other colors) D&H Blue, Red, and Insignia White enamels. Gleefully, I didn't end up with any raised steps between the various colors. Although certain experts have argued over details of the markings that would've been on Rhys-Davids' machine on the day of the epic Voss dogfight, I decided to go with the late great Rowan Broadbent's instructions, hence the earlier tailband rather than the blue barbell and the wing insignia in the inboard position rather than centered over the struts. Some of those details may always remain in doubt, but as Dave Wilson used to say "Just build the thing!"
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That looks pretty darned good to me, I can't see any major boo boos. Very nice work, and it's all coming together nicely.
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Success! :D
I'm sure you can see some areas that aren't perfect, but, as Nigel says, I can't really see them. It really looks like you've mastered the masks and produced an excellent result.
Cheers, Fredrik
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I'm about to spray some clear coats (gloss followed by oil wash and clear matte) prior to attaching the various Gaspatch anchor points, then the gunsights and initial rigging. I put her back in the jig and glued the cabane struts to the fuselage. Gonna respond to your latest comments prior to the latest images...
That looks pretty darned good to me, I can't see any major boo boos. Very nice work, and it's all coming together nicely.
Thanks, NigelR. There were a few places where the angle of the spray created thin spots on some of the white trim on the insignia, especially where the fuselage roundels whent down over the wrinkled fabric. so I hit those bits with a fine brush to fatten them up.
Success! :D
I'm sure you can see some areas that aren't perfect, but, as Nigel says, I can't really see them. It really looks like you've mastered the masks and produced an excellent result.
Cheers, Fredrik
Thanks, Fredrik. I've been hesitant to try masks for many years, but these were much easier to use than I'd expected. They seem to be just as easy as using decals once you get the hang of it.
On to the latest pics:
Yes, it has a motor, but I'll never see it again since the manifold shrouds lock it in once the hood is in place. Modelers who like to see their motors will have to display the model with the hood removed.
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Starting to look S.E.5a-ish. Here she is fairly well-aligned in the jig and if anything is off by a smidgeon I expect that the interplane struts and rigging will work their magic and pull everything true:
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Looks like you're on the winning straight!
Keep up the great work. ;)
BB
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Very nice engine. Byeeeee! ;) We all do it, don't we. But you can see bits of it through the gaps around the exhausts, so it's worth doing......
The rest is looking really good.
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Thanks, Bob & NigelR!
I may have to do this one as a two-reply update since I took quite a few photos. I sprayed a thin layer of MM Metallizer Sealer to create a gloss and then applied an oil wash. It looks pretty heavy under this lighting but it's more subtle under normal light. Put the clear pieces over the flight control gizmos and added all of the various doohickeys on the forward upper fuselage along with the exhausts. The Gaspatch Lewis MG is on the rail and rigged. It was fun getting the line wrapped and centered over the caster wheel. Then everything received an overspray with Testors Dullcote- at certain lighting angles it has a pleasant sheen. Next up, drilling out the myriad holes for the Gaspatch turnbuckles and anchor points.
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Additional images in next post...
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One thing I like about taking closeups is that taking a close look at the images often reveals itty bitty spots that require a touchup. Like where my forceps removed some paint from one of the exhaust brackets and that I'd forgotten to tip the ends of the tube sight with gloss. Gonna do that stuff right after I hit the post button.
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More lovely work, all those doohickeys mean she is really starting to look like an SE5a. Those markings look very effective and you've handled all the detail parts and painting really well.
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You're turning this into something really special now. Great workmanship.
Alan.
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Great progress, every update makes it look more and more real.
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I got all of the various turnbuckles and anchor points attached today (Gaspatch and Bob's Buckles) and I attempted to start the rigging, but my gel CA glues aren't flashing off fast enough to affix the distal ends of the Uschi and E-Z Line to the tips of the hardware. I wasn't able to hold the strechy line there long enough for it to set. So, tomorrow morning I'll be off to the hardware store to look for their fastest setting CA/Krazy Glue type adhesive. I'll probably have to hold the line to the fastener and then touch the connection with the smallest glue drop possible. Meanwhile, I went ahead and attached the wheels and thought that I might as well perform yet another test fit of the upper wing and glue the interplane struts to the lower wing then leave them to set good and hard overnight.
More lovely work, all those doohickeys mean she is really starting to look like an SE5a. Those markings look very effective and you've handled all the detail parts and painting really well.
You're turning this into something really special now. Great workmanship.
Alan.
Great progress, every update makes it look more and more real.
Thank you, gentlemen, thank you! I'm really having fun with this one. It's only the second WNW and 1/32nd Great War model that I've built thus far. It's been a blast and I've learned alot. I should do more of them. Once I have this one on the shelf I suppose that the Voss Fokker F.1 would be a logical candidate for my next project.
Upper wing, Lewis MG, and propeller test fit pics below:
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Great work, Vic, your SE has a real used look about. Nice PC10 effects.
Sandy
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Great work, Vic, your SE has a real used look about. Nice PC10 effects.
Sandy
Thanks, Sandy! I've spent much of the day rigging, but I'm only about halfway there and the sun is going down so I'll resume the effort tomorrow.
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Looking good. Could you share how you are doing the rigging? It looks like you have glued terminal points in place before adding the wires. I'd be interested to know what products you are using and how you are approaching this.....
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Looking good. Could you share how you are doing the rigging? It looks like you have glued terminal points in place before adding the wires. I'd be interested to know what products you are using and how you are approaching this.....
Hello, NigelR.
I've used the Gaspatch RAF/RFC resin turnbuckles, metal turnbuckles, and anchor points because they appeared to be the closest matches to the types of fasteners visible on the TVAL and RAF Hendon S.E.5a's. The anchor points and metal turnbuckles went well by either threading the Uschi 0.5 line through the former and/or taking a round turn or half hitch on the latter, then applying a tiny drop of glue. The resin turnbuckles have a tiny bore through them through which the modeler is advised to thread their rigging material first, glue the line into desired points on the model, and then run the turnbuckles up to their proper positions and glue those. I was not able to do that because I used heavy E-Z Line for the paired bracing wires. It hasn'tt gone perfectly because after trying various CA and other "fast acting" glues I could not get them to bond the tips of the wires to the end of the turnbuckles, so I had to resort to gluing the rigging material to the tops or sides of the turnbuckles in order to provide enough area for the glue to gain sufficient purchase sufficient. So, on the microlevel I've had to sacrifice some detail- but I can live with that.
I should have another update in the works this evening as I'm nearly finished and just a couple of bench hours away from mounting the Lewis MG- the last bit to go on.
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Looking fantastic - it’s a great kit. I think you’re the first person I’ve seen using the Gaspatch rfc turnbuckles. They look the part.
Cheers
Matt
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Looking fantastic - it’s a great kit. I think you’re the first person I’ve seen using the Gaspatch rfc turnbuckles. They look the part.
Cheers
Matt
Thanks, Matt. I've just finished the model and I have to drive a friend to the airport. When I return, I'll touch up the paint in spots where a little glue shine is visible and I might add some oil stains and muddy bits on the underside. I'll probably have the final image post up this evening.
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The resin turnbuckles have a tiny bore through them through which the modeler is advised to thread their rigging material first, glue the line into desired points on the model, and then run the turnbuckles up to their proper positions and glue those. I was not able to do that because I used heavy E-Z Line for the paired bracing wires.
Thanks. I've just got some of the GasPatch RFC resin anchor points and that was what I planned to do. EZ Line fine and Modelkasten 0.6 both thread through the 1/48 anchor points ok. I guess the EZ Line heavy won't fit as it is double the size of the fine......
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Dave and I occassionally exchanged gifts. Usually, I'd send him stuff that was hard to get in Australia and he'd send something that's hard to get here in the USA. When some of the webstores had that last Wingnut Wings hurrah a couple of years ago, I scored a Sopwith Pup and the Collishaw Tripehound and sent them to Dave. A few weeks later, an envelope arrived from Dave that contained a truly rare gem. An original issue movie program for "The Blue Max" which covers all sorts of information about how the movie was made and the people involved. I keep it with my program for "The Battle Of Britain" movie, which I've had since childhood. What a wonderful and unexpected gift!
So, I finished the S.E.5a yesterday, but life got busy and I couldn't shoot images until today. Thanks to the magic of the digital camera, upon reviewing the imags I noticed that a few strands of the heavy E-Z Line had gone slack and one had come loose. I addressed those issues immediately following the shoot. I can honestly say that this kit was more fun, more inspiring, and more satisfying than I'd anticipated and provided me with five weeks of contentment at the bench.
Again, I must give a shout out to FAf/Fredrik for offering to produce the masks necessary to paint this model in the markings of No.56 Squadron for Lt. Arthur Rhys-Davids. The S.E.5a was Dave's favorite Great War pursuit type, but if not for Fredrik's most righteous offer this one might still be in the stash in favor of Dave's second favorite, the Pfalz D.III. Not to worry, though, because Dave loved everything Great War and any model of that era built in his honor here will serve as an appropriate tribute.
Thanks for your comments and encouragement everyone! Now, on to the pics. I'll split them between two posts because I shot a bunch.
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And the rest:
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And for my next project, this seemed like a timely and logical choice:
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I'm so happy to see you finish this build and that I could play a small part in making it possible. The end result looks great and I'll be looking forward to seeing the Fokker being built.
/Fredrik
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The end result does indeed look great, well done. And thanks for sharing the background, this is definitely a fitting tribute to Dave.
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Excellent Job.
Alan.
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I'm so happy to see you finish this build and that I could play a small part in making it possible. The end result looks great and I'll be looking forward to seeing the Fokker being built.
/Fredrik
Thanks, Fredrik. You're the one who made possible and your masks also advanced my modeling acumen, putting yet another method in my inventory. I can't thank you enough.
The end result does indeed look great, well done. And thanks for sharing the background, this is definitely a fitting tribute to Dave.
Thanks, NigelR.
Excellent Job.
Alan.
Thanks, Alan.
Epilogue: Honestly, I wish that we weren't doing a group build in Dave's memory. I miss him everyday and wish that he could still be here with us to enjoy all things Great War modeling. Blue skies, Dave and thanks for all that you've done for us.