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The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => Topic started by: FokkerFodder on May 25, 2024, 01:45:07 AM
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Hi all - I’ve decided to clear the deck of my numerous and rarely finished projects and build (and finish!) a tribute to Dave. This will be my first 1/48 build and indeed first plane for a few years, so let’s see how we go. I’ll aim to keep this build simple and OBB if I can - finishing is the objective here.
I’ve forgotten how to post photos it’s been that long since i added anything to the forum - I’ll sort that out a bit later and post the obligatory sprue shot i took this morning.
Cheers
Matt
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Hi Matt
The Moraine N is a lovely little plane. What Eduard kit are you building, the old one with a billion pieces of PE or the newer release. If it is any help I post my pictures by firstly compressing them on a free online photo compressor to an acceptable size, save them to my gallery then attach them using the attachments and other options line.
Alan
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I am looking forward to the Morane build!
RAGIII
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Good choice, good to see another one added to the group build.
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(https://i.imgur.com/JPUi0PO.jpg)
ok - looks like I've worked it out! I think its the newer release? It really is a tiny plane - always loved it, even if it wasn't much fun to fly.
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Nice selection! Looking forward to this one ;D
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A terrific choice!
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Good to see you sorted out the photo process. Now we get to see the build!
RAGIII
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So some progress has been made. I've made a few attempts to improve a few details but its mostly a simply OBB.
The cockpit - a pretty simple affair! The closeups are a bit brutal but it looks ok to the naked eye I think - especially if they're as short sighted as me.
(https://i.imgur.com/sYbBDv9.jpg)
the wee engine...
(https://i.imgur.com/11wtl0W.jpg)
and started on the wings.. I'm fairly happy with the results so far but a fair bit more to do on these.
(https://i.imgur.com/710BjZo.jpg)
Cheers all
Matt
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The pit, engine, and wings look outstanding to me! Very good start!
RAGIII
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Looks very sharply executed to me; I like the wood panelling and brass instruments in the cockpit, as well as the wing shading - well done sir!
Cheers,
BC
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Excellent work on the wood and engine! ;D
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That's looking great so far, really nice work on the interior.
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Thanks all… a question… perhaps for Brad as you’ve already done a lovely one of these! Any advice on the rigging? I know the wing doesn’t have a lot to connect to and perhaps Frank suggested it needed structural rigging.. I’m wondering if a few dabs of superglue gel would suffice for using elastic ? For some reason I have more success with elastic… and any suggestions on what works well in 1/48 scale (using either elastic thread or monofilament)? New experience for me.
Cheers
Matt
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If memory serves me right I did mine with elastic (at least the main wings) because the control lines went thru holes I drilled all the way through the wing. By using elastic there was no curve in it as it exited the wing holes each side whereas had I used mono it would have exited with a slight curve even if was really taught. I cannot remember if I put in superglue or not but I most probably would have. I definitely would have put pins in the wing for strength. I guess the best way depends on how you wish to attach the rigging too. I often use fuse wire on rigging that is outside, above or below the aircraft and secure it with white glue which looks good. Neither of these would give much structural strength, of course mono would. A thought I have just had is that I sometimes choose elastic on exposed rigging because if anything catches it during or after the build it is unlikely to punish you for it, I have been quite cruelly punished when I have done this on mono rigging and only today I had to re attach a wire rigged model that had a quite complicated piece knocked off.
Hope this helps, Alan.
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Thanks all… a question… perhaps for Brad as you’ve already done a lovely one of these! Any advice on the rigging? I know the wing doesn’t have a lot to connect to and perhaps Frank suggested it needed structural rigging.. I’m wondering if a few dabs of superglue gel would suffice for using elastic ? For some reason I have more success with elastic… and any suggestions on what works well in 1/48 scale (using either elastic thread or monofilament)? New experience for me.
Cheers
Matt
Hi Matt! Indeed, my rigging material of choice is elastic, which bonds quickly with a small dab of superglue. A light touch with some superglue accelerator will make sure your rigging line stays in place.
As noted, elastic adds nothing to structural strength, but for a monoplane such as this one (and having done one of these before as you've kindly noted), structural strength isn't too much of a concern :)
Looking forward to seeing more!
Cheers,
BC
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Thanks all and for the advice, Alan and Brad - I've added a couple of brass pins so hopefully the wings will attach ok.
Also a small update.. now buttoned up and added a bit of colour to the linen. It seemed a bit pale given the varnish, castor oil, grime etc which would have given a darker hue. Not sure it's there but a start - the weathering will darken it further as well.
I'm heading back to Oz for 2 weeks so no more updates until I'm back, although I'm hoping to stock up on a few modelling supplies over this time so I can push forward on this.
Take care all.
cheers
Matt
(https://i.imgur.com/sKBmPT3.jpg)
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That really looks great! I Love the Linen!!
RAGIII
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Nice work on this one Matt.
Cheers,
Gary
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Nice work on the linen, looking good!
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Very nice color for the linen! ;D
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Work has recommenced now I'm back from my trip home and progress is being made, although lots of mistakes are creeping in - a steep 1/48 scale learning curve!
I struggled with the roundels today - they seemed to resist conforming and, in my impatience, (not a useful trait when building WW1 model planes), I stuck them out on my balcony - who needs a hair dryer when its 50 degrees outside? but I got distracted on calls home and by the time I saved them I think they had essentially melted... next time I'm going to put my big boy pants on and mask these things...
(https://i.imgur.com/4pNlJ3X.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NbxE5dy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8qMm8ff.jpg)
I'll just keep adding decal solution and pricking the little bubbles.... slap some gloss on and see where we get to... I suppose at the extreme I could strip them and use masks. But I'm hoping with a few coats of gloss it will be resolved!
Like much of the world, I'm having supply chain problems - a Gaspatch order has gone MIA - which will need to be resolved in the not-too-distant future if I'm to finish this.... but this has turned up in the post...
(https://i.imgur.com/XHmnYEi.jpg)
perhaps I can add a late, late entry to Dave's memorial build while I resolve my tiny turnbuckle issues...? Administrators -would this be ok? And can I add the little Flying Razor to this thread?
cheers all and take care
Matt
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Nice progress, love the cowling weathering. You can save the roundels with pin pricks and solvent, just takes time....
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The painting and weathering are perfect! The roundels should be OK after your solvent treatment. Good luck!
RAGIII
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That's looking absolutely superb bar the roundels which I am sure you can sort out with your suggested approach. It's worth persevering......
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Don't worry too much about the roundels - keep the pin pricks and decal setter going and it will get there in the end!
I do also like the cowling chipping - do you have any more pictures? What is your method?
Cheers!
BC
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Hi all
I haven't posted anything for a while, but progress is being made so this is a bit of a recap!
Here is the EV cockpit...
(https://i.imgur.com/T4kq2px.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wGMR2Ig.jpg)
As an aside, this was the first time I've used Quinta decals - actually impressed, especially for 1/48. More 3D than PE and without the superglue fuss!
The little razor getting some colour - a lost of pre-shading fuss that was a waste of time but learnt some lessons on the application of yellow....
(https://i.imgur.com/VOI5oEh.jpg)
Now some masking.... not one of my strengths!
(https://i.imgur.com/qJfQh9l.jpg)
But now we have a little bumble bee...
(https://i.imgur.com/QonV4C3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RHGFxu5.jpg)
And now its markings..
(https://i.imgur.com/DQMs47d.jpg)
The bands look quite sharp to the naked eye but the close ups are a bit grim! I've lightly sanded the black bands to show a small amount of yellow peaking through here and there.
And I should give a shout out to Mike's wonderful PDF build log of the EV which has been an immense help - these are really a wonderful resource.
Brad - i know i owe you a response on the chipping.... just the hairspray technique. The chipping was quite extreme on this one - there's a photo in the DataFile as well as a profile which i assume Eduard may have based their profile on.
(https://i.imgur.com/hultu2k.jpg)
The N-Type is parked for the moment - these seemed quite weathered in real life - the photo makes it look a bit more extreme than it appears to the naked eye.
(https://i.imgur.com/GbGWxzm.jpg)
I'll leave it there - I'll try and post the progress on the EV wings tomorrow.
cheers
Matt
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Fantastic finish, on both of them!
If I hadn’t got stuck in 1/72, I would have started with 1/48- this is a proof it really can look as good as 1/32, while still not being humongously large. Chipping is convincing too.
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Great progress on both models!
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Thanks Matt! This one is looking really good. Thanks also for sharing the chipping technique!
Cheers!
BC
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Very nice looking models!
/Fredrik
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Both the DVIII and Morane are beautifully painted. The Morane however is simply Amazing! The chipping and oil stains are incredible!!
RAGIII
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Thank you all for the kind comments.
As I mentioned at the beginning, this my first time doing 1/48 scale and I have to say I'm a late convert. I came back to modelling like many of us with the WNM revolution, so 1/32 seemed the way to go (although I have kind of strayed into WW1 armour). But I think 1/48 gives you room to add detail while the end model is surprisingly small for these WW1 fighters and a lot less space required for display (plus I think I can actually transport these back to Oz as carry on without too much drama). Unfortunately, the scale seems a little out of favour at the moment! I wish CSM kept going with a 1/48 side line - I'll definitely get their Dolphin and Armstrong FK 8 if I can find one
Anyhow, a small update. Went to the GPO to pick up this - my last excuse has gone... next weekend I will attach the wings and start rigging the little Bullet.. gulp. BvB very kindly included some .08 line as well!
(https://i.imgur.com/OL02u7k.jpg)
And a couple of pics of the Razor's wing and odds and sods. I very much went with an artistic approach to the wing colours - given how much of it is conjecture I can live with an arty interpretation.
(https://i.imgur.com/qJKegHR.jpg)
And underneath...
(https://i.imgur.com/19XIVx5.jpg)
Well, I'll leave it there. Time to sit back for the Blues - Man City game shortly. Not very optimistic so you can probably guess who I support.
cheers all
Matt
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More awesome paintwork! The wing surfaces are terrific!
RAGIII
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These are both looking superb, I really like your approach to he weathering and finishing.
Well, I'll leave it there. Time to sit back for the Blues - Man City game shortly. Not very optimistic so you can probably guess who I support.
The ones with more money than sense.......? ;) ;D
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These are both looking superb, I really like your approach to he weathering and finishing.
Well, I'll leave it there. Time to sit back for the Blues - Man City game shortly. Not very optimistic so you can probably guess who I support.
The ones with more money than sense.......? ;) ;D
[Ha - fair cop! you have to take a bit of stick being a Blues supporter these days!]
A quick update - some progress but realised i needed to leave the rigging alone until i get some thin high-quality CA - using generic 80c stuff was rapidly becoming frustrating and disaster was imminent... i did try your leather technique Nigel - can't see it here but it worked well enough that I'll persevere.
Anyhow, the little bee has its stinger!
(https://i.imgur.com/AmNoh31.jpg)
cheers
Matt
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Those are both looking stunning Matt.
And today's result might convince you those billiions haven't all been wasted....... ;) ;D
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Very nice progress! ;D
Modelbau koenig has the CSM Dolphin and Caudron G.IV Hydravion 1/48 in stock ;)
And plastmodel.pl has the CSM Dolphin, Caudron G.IV Hydravion and all 3 versions of the Armstrong FK 8 in stock ;D
Good excuse to expand the stash
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Fingers crossed for your good progress with the rigging.
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Lovely updates Matt - I appreciate your artistic approach :) Looking forward to seeing more!
Cheers,
BC
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Not sure how I missed this thread Matt, but loving how both models are progressing. Nice to see a couple of monoplanes for a change and think the weathering on the Morane looks great (I was tempted to try the hairspray technique on the Junkers I recently built, but though it might look a bit too much in the smaller scale; now looking for a suitable subject . . .) ;)
Paul
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Really lovely finish on both aircraft!
/Fredrik
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Both look stunning! Glad you got the control line rigging sorted out on the Fokker. Looking forward to seeing these as Monoplanes!
RAGIII
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Both look stunning! Glad you got the control line rigging sorted out on the Fokker. Looking forward to seeing these as Monoplanes!
RAGIII
Agree with my Amigo !! (And Rick I did send an additional pic for the MLF Thread 2pm PST)
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Thanks all
A bit more of an update....one of them now has wings! And I've made a couple of simple display stands - trying something a bit different as they are really quite small and i thought something compact might work.
(https://i.imgur.com/XquuPCH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w68Qe3r.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7iJn8Tz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vlb2bTY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/p70E9Rx.jpg)
And I've tried Bertl's pencil method for the prop - good enough that I'll keep trying. I think in 1/48 i need to get the pencils sharper but to get a really clear delineation but its ok.
(https://i.imgur.com/JN3Le1m.jpg)
And as you may note on my 'latest acquisition' post, my stash is starting to grow and the CSM 1/48 are definitely on the list!
cheers all
Matt
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The Morane looks Fantastic with wings on and Mounted on the gorgeous little base! Both bases are excellent, and that Fokker prop looks awesome to me! Well Done on all!
RAGIII
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Lovely stuff, the display stands are definitely worth the effort.
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The Morane looks Fantastic with wings on and Mounted on the gorgeous little base! Both bases are excellent, and that Fokker prop looks awesome to me! Well Done on all!
RAGIII
I'll just echo Rick!
/Fredrik
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Great progress. Lovely to see the Morane with the wings.
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Thank you all.
A small update. This is probably where I park things for a while as I'm heading off on holiday in a week. Hopefully I can pick up some Zap super glue along the way... I've identified a couple of model shops to visit. Anyhow, the Razor now has its wing attached...
(https://i.imgur.com/cw78iUG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BawPjfg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2NLyINw.jpg)
You will notice its still lacking an engine - I'm going to have a crack at a Small Stuff engine when i get back.
And starting on a pilot for the Fokker... I'm going to try and convert the CSM Italian pilot for the Morane... my CSM package is finally ready to be picked up following another postal debacle...
(https://i.imgur.com/KIGTt7f.jpg)
Hopefully I'll be able to wrap these up in October before the deadline! Happy modelling!
(https://i.imgur.com/sxWcFcW.jpg)
cheers
Matt
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Man, those are Gorgeous! The pilot looks as though He will be also!
RAGIII
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These are looking fantastic, I love the presentation on the bases. Have a great holiday, can't wait to see these finished off!
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Amazing presentation and models! I really like how you made the wood planks on the base. Very clever and realistic ;D
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Over the line... just.
In memory of Dave - my first 1/48 planes and first time I think I've ever got even close to finishing 2 in under 6 months.
There are a couple of control lines on the Fokker hanging around. I need accelerator to connect as my wobbly hand can't keep still enough for the Zap to do its thing - it can wait until I get back to Oz at Xmas. The figures look a little better with the natural eye!
cheers
Matt
(https://i.imgur.com/M9uaKuo.jpg)
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Marvelous monoplanes, FokkerFodder! Both of them turned out beautifully and I find the Type N particularly impressive with paint and weathering and all of that crisp rigging. Well done!
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Fantastic results FF, the weathering is superb, great figure and nicely displayed.
10/10
Sandy
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Those look absolutely superb, I really love the way you presented them. The models just ooze atmosphere and are a joy to look at. The figures look pretty good to these eyes and they add a great finishing touch. I'll definitely steal your basing approach in some of my future work, it really looks good.
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These look brilliant especially how you presented them.
Alan.
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Magnificent work Matt, and so wonderfully presented! Bravo, sir, Dave would be proud :)
Your bases are excellent, and their size fits nicely with the model whilst leaving the model and the figure as the main focus. Where did you get them from?
Cheers!
BC
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Great overall presentation Matt. I particularly like your CDL technique.
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Thanks all for the kind comments.
Brad - I got them from GreenStuffWorld. These seem to be the biggest - 12cm long - but I think most 1/48 scouts will fit?. Just! They?re about ?12 ?seem to be sold out at the moment?.
Cheers
Matt
https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/squared-plinths/1477-rectangular-top-display-plinth-12x6cm-black.html