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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: djuggie on May 15, 2024, 07:31:27 AM
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May 14, 2024
Back to my main building enjoyment, 1/72nd. This is the oldest unbuilt Pegasus kit in my stash and as you can see, it came in a plastic bag. This was the beginning of metal parts as the machine guns are metal. I will be able to use the MAC kit instructions to supplement the basic Pegasus instructions. There is also now a Datafile for the aircraft.
The second photo show some of the Dremel work on the interior. I have yet to decide if there will be any thinning in the engine area although the this area is bit anemic and I may put an engine in. I will not be thinning the wings even though they are out of scale. The top and bottom detail is too nicely done to sand it down and re-do it.
The third photo shows the decals that will be applied to all wing and tail surfaces. The color scheme has also not been decided on.
Dennis
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Great subject Dennis.
I picked up the Pegasus model for a song after I'd already bought a MAC version - guess which I prefer? ;) Look forward to seeing this one shape up
Paul
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Well, that's looking like quite a challenge to me......
Back to my main building enjoyment, 1/72nd.
I think you mean carving models out of lumps of plastic....... ;) :D
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Will follow with interest. The kit is based on the old Harleyford drawing, which it matches pretty good.
I have a czech resin kit which is so similar one might wonder whether Chris Gannon used it as pattern.
One can keep the rib detail and refine the parts by sanding lower surfaces only, less visible on the finished model and
very little detail on the full size machine, so decal strips only will do.
Have fun Joachim
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Thank you for the comments. Keeps me going.
Just think of where diamonds comes from. Lumps of coal under pressure. Ok, ok. Maybe not diamonds but something that is recognizable. And maybe no pressure but I do associate with a keen eyed group of people.
As far as the sanding of the lower wings, I starting to lean in that direction. I will use a single swipe of a scribing tool to bring the ribs back to life. And I have gone into my parts box and found an engine that will work. Sigh. See how you corrupted me! Used to sit at my modelling table without a care in the world cranking out models. Now I have to make them look good. Woe is me.
Dennis
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Looking forward to see what you do with this Dennis. You'll be fine corruption or no.
Warren
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That looks a lotta work, Dennis.
I remember, back in the day, when confronted with a sow's ear like that I'd reach for the Harry Woodman scratchbuilding book and start scribing plastic!
Still, you've only got to make it halfway decent to qualify as a star modeller! I'm sure you'll bring it home to rapturous applause.
Sandy
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This definitely is a challenging kit, but the subject is well worth the effort, since Roland D.VI is imho one of the most beautiful of WWI.
Keeping my fingers crossed and following your progress with great interest.
Cheers.
Ondra
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I'd love to follow your build log Dennis but for some reason I can't see your photos. I did see your Allied and Central Powers photos up to a few days ago and then they disappeared. Nevertheless, I'm sure this is going to be a great build.
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Going to be fun following along with this one, Dennis, I've always loved these fighters although I've never built one, and with my switch to 1:32 and the price of the WnW kit I probably never will!
Dutch
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May 17, 2024
The Dremel tool went to work yesterday and here are the results. There was a great deal of plastic to be removed but the results are pleasing. It will never see the light of day again, but it is there. I hope to have the interior finished and closed up by this week end.
The decals for the logenze proved to be almost too old. I will have to see if I can save them.
Also, my compressor died yesterday. You would think things could last more that 20 years. That may slow me down a little.
Dennis
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Dennis,
Don't feel bad about your compressor lasting twenty years. I spent a chunk of change on a compressor with a tank, put it in the hobby cave, used it maybe a dozen times, and it died on me. Wrote the dealer, and because it was over a year (I'm a slow modeler!) no warranty. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I hope you can save the decals. If not, I hear folks love the Aviattic lozenge. I have some saved back, but haven't used them yet. I might have some of the Americal-Gryphon lozenge I can send you if the Pegasus lozenge can't be saved. Come to think of it, I may have some Pegasus lozenge saved back if you're game.
Warren
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Coming along nicely Dennis (I know how long it takes to get the interior all hollowed out and ready to start work on - always seems to be wasted time, but it'll pay off in the end.
I know I've got several sheets of the Pegasus lozenge decals so if you're struggling with them drop me a pm
Paul
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Good progress on a basic model! The engine looks good in the taped up fuselage.
RAGIII
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This looks like fun. I'll watch from the bar!
Ian
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What did you use for the engine? I hollowed out and hollowed out and tries to use an engine from a Roden Albatros and had to file away most of the engine anyway.
Rick in Seattle
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Now that the forum is back your photos are back too, Dennis :)
Good progress with the Roland.
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"my compressor died yesterday"
That's why they invented the brush back then .... ;)
Joachim
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Great work! I enjoy seeing old kits get love/redemption.
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Rick,
I have no idea where the engine came from. It was in plastic tray full of engines, probably from old Roden and Toko kits. I found one that sorta fit and Dremeled it until it did. It is heavlyly thinned, trimmed and otherwise abused until it fit. This is a case where it would be easier to just glue the top of the engine supplied by Pegasus and walk away. The results are almost exactly the same. But can I do that? Can any of us do that? Of course not.
I thank everyone for their comments.
The decals are on the wings and the interior is nearing completion. Photos soon.
Dennis
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May 23, 2024
All surfaces of the wings are done and the decals are applied. The logezen is Aeromaster and the national markings are the kit decals. I had to dispose of the Pegasus decals due to age. The interior was completed and the fuselage was closed up. I let the fuselage dry overnight and I do expect some problems with sanding and filing. It is here that the kit shows its age. Pegasus is still ironing out problems at this time but progress has been made. I do not recommend this as a first Pegasus build.
Dennis
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Best of luck with that seam - it looks like it might be tough to eliminate without destroying some of the planking detail......
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Looking great considering the kits age and source! Good luck with that seam.
Warren
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May 24, 2024
The fuselage is compete. The putty work was minimal and very little detail was lost in the sanding. The color is Tamiya Dark Yellow with a thin wash of Citadel Seraphim Sepia, slightly streaked. The next step will be the fuselage color scheme.
Dennis
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Great progress on a challenging kit. The fuselage color looks good!
RAGIII
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That turned out well, glad the seam fixing didn't cause major problems.
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Glad the seam turned out to be relatively pain free. I really like the color and streaking on the fuselage.
Warren
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May 26, 2024
Using the clear decal sheet I recently purchased, I sprayed some of it black and cut out the strips for the fuselage. One thing about this clear decal sheet is from the time if hits the water to releasing from its backing is about 15 seconds. It was then applied to match the photos as close as possible. The entire fuselage decalling took about an hour.. The lower wing was attached and it now going to dry until at least tomorrow.
The machine guns were attached at this point as there will be no way to get them in after the top wing is attached.
Dennis
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Good work, that's a very striking scheme.
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That looks beautiful Dennis! Lovely scheme and excellent modeling.
RAGIII
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June 7, 2024
Took a little time off to experiment with rib tapes with a felt tip pen. Nothing worked. So, out came the decal sheet and hours of modelling enjoyment, one piece at a time. The results are acceptable. The undercarriage was fabricated and attached. A little off, but again, acceptable.
Drilling holes for the rigging and control lines and then attaching the top wing is next. Not an easy kit but progress is being made.
Dennis
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Looking good! Continue to march troop!
Warren
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June 8, 2024
The top wing is now installed and the cabanes are in place. I made them one piece at a time so I knew they would fit. As I neared this segment, I discovered I bought two Roland MAC kits and inside the second box was a Pegasus kit. What my plan was, those brain cells have long ago passed away. But I know have another Pegasus Roland 6b. Yippee!!
The rigging is next with touch up painting in numerous places. If you want to find your flaws, that close up photo of your kit. The rigging of the VI will be very easy and there is a possibility I can have it completed tomorrow.
Dennis
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I thoroughly appreciate your "hours of enjoyment", dealing with the rib tape decals. My Shelf of Doom is littered with planes with 35-65% of the rib tapes in place, when I finally lost interest in the build. I was hoping your felt tip pen would be a solution that could get me past that point.
Well, whatever it says about my efforts, your Roland is looking great.
Rick in Seattle
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Well done Dennis. I know from experience that applying individual rib tapes in 1/72 is quite challenging. She's looking good and coming together well, not much to do now....
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Looking great Dennis! Nice work on quite a tricky kit. Great to see these subjects being tackled!
Cheers,
BC
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Brilliant work in this scale.
And having just made huge demands on my dwindling stock of zen calm, applying rib tapes (and only in 1:32)... Massive empathy ;)
Mark
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Another gem in the making, Dennis. Always loved these aeroplanes, ever since seeing one in the Munson Fighters book (the first reference book I ever bought) a lifetime or so ago.
Dutch
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This will be a very attractive model of a very attractive plane!
And there are more attractive schemes....
Joachim
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June 11, 2024
It is done. Still have a little touch up to do but I must get it off my table at this time.
This was a very difficult kit. One reason is I built the kit using 1985 technology. The kit is out of the box with the exception of the prop which was replaced with another Pegasus prop that was more accurate. None of the surfaces were thinned so they are out of scale. The modification was drilling out the entire interior to add some interior detail and an engine. If I were to this again, I would have added the cockpit interior and closed it up. I would have then drilled out the top of the cowling about 1/4 inch or so, cut an engine in half to expose only the cylinders. The results would have been exactly the same. As they say, live and learn. Another problem was my decals had died after 30 years, (imagine that) so I have to use whatever was still usable.
The only reason I built this kit is to have one each of the Pegasus WW1 releases. This was about number 11 of the Pegasus releases and is crude by today's standards. He got a lot better but this was the only offering in 1985.
The model sits with the MAC injection molded kit of about 2002. Neither offered lozenge decals.
Dennis
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Nice one Dennis.
Not the easiest of kits to build, but I do have a soft spot for them. :) Comparing the Pegasus offering to the more recent MAC one I have I still prefer the older kit (But then I am known to be a bit strange) ;)
Paul
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Applause for your finished Roland!
At the time there was no better, not even in resin.
Regards Joachim
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Very good result from a challenging kit. Worth the effort for the Pegasus project......
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Beautiful Results Dennis!
RAGIII
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Well done - dramatic colours!
Sandy
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I want to thank everyone for their positive comments on this build. Not one of my best efforts but acceptable and will sit on the shelf next to the MAC kits even though they are at 20 years apart. But as mentioned, at the time they were the only game in town.
Currently under construction is a 1/32 Sopwith Triplane by Roden. I will be building the entire Black Flight (plus Collishaw's twin machine gun version.) Only four to go. Sigh.
Then, for myself, to the Shelf of Doom and a kit that been waiting for many years. It is time.
Dennis
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Beautiful effort, Dennis. And it was very cool seeing it sitting next to the MAC kit, I rather like the Pegasus version better, despite the technical superiority of the "newer" one...
Dutch