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The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => The David Wilson Memorial Group Build 2024 => Topic started by: IanB on May 02, 2024, 12:03:34 AM

Title: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on May 02, 2024, 12:03:34 AM
I'll book my spot with this one.
I'm sure most are familiar with the kit but here are some basic pics to prove it's not yet started!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53690617867_577d6b56d9.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53691493666_3eb7241d56.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53691497566_b28edd31e9.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53692303874_a76a2d9546.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53692392480_6125b1c248.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53692302414_1a78f5a190.jpg)

Some very nicely moulded parts there, I may even be able to do this OOB!

See you all soon!

Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Dirigible-Al on May 02, 2024, 12:14:53 AM
That's a really nice kit. Look forward to seeing the build.
Alan.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on May 02, 2024, 06:34:51 PM
Another excellent choice, a good tribute to Dave.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on May 04, 2024, 12:12:21 AM
You can't go wrong with an SE5a for the Memorial build. Looking forward to your Models completion.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 04, 2024, 08:12:34 AM
Great choice! I am looking forward to seeing how this one builds up. I have one in my stash that I have been flirting with for some time now...  ;D

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on May 17, 2024, 04:41:43 AM
Sorry I've been quiet here, I haven't been idle though.

Although I had hoped to build this OOB, I knew the chances were slim! Having said that, modifications will be minimal.
I will use MiniWorld guns, and have made a new seat back, as the kit item was not accurate. I've also thinned the area inside the semi-circular cutout under the nose and, using a sharp blade, moved the front edge of the plastic behind the cutout back a little to give the correct "lip" all the way around.

So here's what I've got done so far.

A little interior paintwork to start with

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53724848782_702d20a1e7.jpg)

and I found a spare instrument panel that I'd designed for the DH9. It just so happened that it fitted nicely after filing off the windscreen mount!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53726094594_8eb42f28cc.jpg)

Some of the detail was removed and the gap at the left was widened....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53726094584_a1b65c42a9.jpg)

Not perfect, but it will do the job!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53726190455_d53370ba19.jpg)

The seat back was not correct, as mentioned, so I made a new one from stock Evergreen.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53725962368_ba1f9c5e61.jpg)

The seat bottom is the kit part and will be fitted separately.
It should look something like this

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53724848767_545114972d.jpg)

I also ran out of PC10, so more has been ordered from Misterkit. I have some misgivings here though. I love their paints, but too many of them have gone off before I even opened them. If the same happens again, I will find another supplier....

Thanks for looking in,


Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on May 17, 2024, 08:19:16 AM
That is excellent work ! I thought I was good for having done that seat back/bulkhead in 1/32nd scale. Thanks for the reality check  ::) Your 1/72nd version is awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on May 17, 2024, 06:34:00 PM
A very fitting choice of subject and a great start. It's just so hard to do an OOB build...... ;)
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: PrzemoL on May 17, 2024, 08:16:02 PM
Great start. Those Roden kits are still fine, and when amended, more or less, build into fantastic models. Yours will surely be one!
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on May 21, 2024, 10:27:23 PM
Just a small update from the weekend as the fuselage assembly requires patience!
It has to be put together in stages, especially as my kit fuselage halves are slightly warped at the front.

First step - glue the halves together.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736744500_9b5630864e.jpg)

Once dry, step 2 is to attach the fuselage to the wings. I also added the lower nose section at this time. Pic eaten by hungry camera.
Stage 3, attach the cockpit coaming.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736744470_877debb6b1.jpg)

Step 4 will be to add the radiator and upper cowling, maybe even in 2 steps, we'll see! However, it's worth being patient since I don't want a badly fitting or warped nose!

Hopefully my paints are on their way....

Thanks for looking in,



Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on May 22, 2024, 07:25:42 AM
Terrific progress! It is amazing how closely this little one is in assembly to the 1/48th and 1/32nd! Looking forward to your next update.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: KiwiZac on May 22, 2024, 11:53:11 AM
Lovely work Ian! I don't think I've ever seen a WIP of this kit, so I'm really enjoying it. Great thinking with the DH.9 panel, that adds so much to your model.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on June 25, 2024, 10:38:12 PM
Thanks guys! The fuselage assembly is pretty tricky and needs to be tackled in small stages. Maybe this is a result of it having been designed as a larger scale kit?

Apologies for the long delay in updating this, but to be honest there's been a bit of a mojo shortage.

A little more has been done though. I had to refit the lower wings as they weren't level for some reason. That was taken care of, and a lot of general tidying up has been done. The only major work really has been the removal, pinning, and refitting of the control surfaces and I think everything is now ready for me to mask off the underside rib tapes. That may also explain the lack of mojo!

Anyway, here's a white SE5a

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53813900092_a076af798e.jpg)

Hopefully the next update will not be a month from now, and will show far more progress!

Thanks for looking in,


Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: DaddyO on June 26, 2024, 12:09:19 AM
Looking good so far Ian.  :)

Bit of pain putting those multi part fuselages together and I think you're wise taking them in stages (I've stalled on the Pfalz build at the moment so picked something easy (!) to get the old mojo back up)

Cheers for now
Paul
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on June 26, 2024, 12:27:03 AM
Glad to see you are progressing on your SE5a Ian! That multi part fuselage was difficult in 1/48th and 1/32nd so I can only imagine how that is (magnified) in 1/72nd!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: AngryJazz on June 26, 2024, 04:09:48 PM
Great progress! Its looking very nice  :)
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on June 26, 2024, 06:17:28 PM
That looks like progress to me. Those Roden 1/72 kits can be a bit tough, so well done for persevering and it looks like you are doing a great job.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on July 21, 2024, 09:14:37 PM
Thanks guys,
Unfortunately progress is still slow, but at least SOMETHING is being done!

Slowly but surely! I have to admit I haven't been idle at the bench, but most of the time has gone on the Jag (and not much to show there either!)

Anyway, I finally got the underside ribs masked and CDL sprayed.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53870712511_55b96108b8.jpg)

Now I can get that masked off for the PC10. The tricky bit is the overlap under the edges, but it has to be done!

And that, I'm afraid, is all for this time!
More next time I hope!


Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on July 21, 2024, 10:03:37 PM
It's definitely something and it looks good. Keep going!
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on July 21, 2024, 11:38:42 PM
It may be slow progress, but it is Good Progress! The ribs look terrific and your CDL is spot on!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: KiwiZac on July 22, 2024, 11:39:22 AM
It may be slow progress, but it is Good Progress!
Hear hear! She's shaping up beautifully!
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: lone modeller on August 03, 2024, 04:09:30 AM
I have not had a lot of time recentlt Ian and have missed out on much of this GB. However it is good to see that you have made some progress with a kit in God's Own Scale - and it does look good. Best of luck with the overlap under the wing leading edges - always something I dread to paint.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on August 20, 2024, 03:29:37 AM
I really must pay more attention to updates here!

I have been doing "stuff", but for some reason haven't been posting it. So this is intended to put that right.

First then, masking for the PC10.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928814018_a3dfb0df24.jpg)

aaand.... PAINT!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928814038_fd084b29cc.jpg)

After that, some touch ups were needed for the PC10 where the masking foam stuck out slightly too far, and black around the engine, along with detail painting. Not that much to be honest, but black needed for the vents on the underside of the engine and the radiator, then some leather for the cockpit coaming.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928569481_a58d41e8be.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928915639_d3f8b1d211.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928814013_a63955590f.jpg)

The wing joint plates were done with a fine black marker as that was far easier than trying to paint them. 2 more still to do each side for the upper wing flying wires.

Then it was time to start looking at some of the details. This is what we are given for the Aldis sight.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928813998_3f5c25e876.jpg)

I don't think so, somehow!
So, out with some brass rod, tube, and scraps of PE to come up with the component parts for a new sight.

The sight itself:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928569471_dc0a01040e.jpg)

and the mounts, checked for fit:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53928814008_6aeabe2452.jpg)

In the hope that I can avoid losing them, and to make them easier to paint, I CAd them to a toothpick

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53927670117_708536849e.jpg)

The final job done to date, was drilling all the rigging holes.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53927670132_f73557d7d6.jpg)


Fuselage, tail, and lower wings also done!

Next job then, will be to paint the parts for the sight and attach them, paint the rudder, and prepare the wing struts!

See you soon, I hope!

Thanks for looking in!



Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: DaddyO on August 20, 2024, 03:47:51 AM
Shaping up very nicely Ian  8)

Paul
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on August 20, 2024, 05:58:23 PM
Nice progress here, this is all looking very sharp. Nice attention to detail on the Aldis sight.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: macsporran on August 20, 2024, 07:09:07 PM
Great stuff.

I find these things a real challenge in 1/32, but in 1/72?

Kudos.

Sandy
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2024, 12:00:18 AM
Sorry I missed your update earlier. The sight and mount look great. I am sure they will be even better in situ! I love the colors also!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Dutch522 on August 21, 2024, 12:05:06 AM
Glad to see everything is up to your usual immaculate standards, absolutely love that sight-in-progress.

Dutch
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: KiwiZac on August 21, 2024, 05:20:25 PM
Beautiful work!
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Tim Mixon on August 22, 2024, 08:08:28 AM
Looks great Ian.  Nice work on the subtle rib effects. 
Looking forward to seeing how you apply the diamond pattern on the upper surface. 

Tim
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: torbiorn on August 22, 2024, 08:52:28 AM
Nice and sharp - that PC10 overlap I always find very annoying (lots of work for something seemingly simple), but it does look good.

I get nervous looking at that Aldis sight on the stick. I’ve sent one gunsight flying with the airbrush that way: since then I thread them on a wire, make a loop of the wire and clamp it shut with a clothesspin.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: lone modeller on September 10, 2024, 04:04:50 AM
Catching up (again!). I really like your Aldis sight and the idea of glueing the mounts to a stick so that you do not lose them. Good progress on this one - it is going to be another of your tiny masterpieces.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Skyhook on October 17, 2024, 06:26:19 PM
Roden SE5s are great models?.the multipart fuselage is actually quite good if you do some careful sanding and dry-fitting before the final assembly? i have done a couple of these and they look quite right when assembled. The inpection panels are a bit tricky to make look good in 1/72, though?.

Cheers, Skyhook
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on December 06, 2024, 05:34:11 PM
I know I've been a little quiet here, but I didn't realise it had been 4 months!

Mostly due to a lack of mojo, but also there is now a lady in my life (totally unexpected, but what can one do? )

Anyway, I have just a small update to let you know I'm still here!

I tried applying the white stripe decals on the fuselage to see how they behaved and, not unexpectedly, they broke! So I designed a one piece mask for the fuselage sides including the stripe, letter A and background for the roundel, which is slightly off centre. The plan is to spray the decals with decal fix and apply the roundel over the white background.

They didn't turn out too badly!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54183785622_f61b3b7168.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54184941953_e268d112e5.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54183785657_a26d2236a3.jpg)

The left side is a little rickety and neither A is quite as square as I would like it, but I can live with it.

The radiator shutters have also been painted, and the rocker covers added, but that's about it. Not much for 4 months I'm afraid, but some progress has also been made on the SS100 Jag.

Thanks for looking in!



Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on December 06, 2024, 07:27:35 PM
That doesn't look too bad at all, keep going! I hope the lady can tolerate a chap who likes making little models...... ;)
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on December 07, 2024, 04:58:08 AM
Thanks, Nigel, and yes she can! A keeper!

Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: torbiorn on December 07, 2024, 11:27:09 AM
Congrats, company is better company than bits of plastic, no matter how nice or accurately to scale they look =)
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: IanB on February 28, 2025, 10:00:32 PM
I have finally regained a little mojo so this is back!

Firstly, the engine parts were fitted. The kit has both sides the same, which is not correct. The tacho drive to the rear of the head pointing aft should only be on the right side, and the little protuberance on the upper side of the head, to the rear, should only be on the left. That was corrected, and the cut outs on the cowling altered to match. Paint has also been added up front for the shutters, and the mounts for the sight are on.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54356227520_555b86a975.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54354945172_1290cb21d0.jpg)

Then it was time to bite the bullet and fit the upper wing.
First though, the jig had to be set up.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54354945167_3b57c7b000.jpg)

I'd be lost without the Aeroclub jig! The centre section wires were added, the struts were pinned to the upper wing, and it was locked into the jig. Then I "only" had to thread the wires through the upper wing and glue the bottom ends of the struts in place. Only about 2 hours work!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54356049743_24de1111e7.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54354945177_fb0e83a601.jpg)

The rear sight mount is only loose in its holes so that I can adjust the height to match the Lewis mount later.

That's it for now, I'll tackle the rest of the rigging and outer struts very soon!

Thanks for looking in!


Ian
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: NigelR on March 01, 2025, 12:46:32 AM
Good to see this back on the bench (and in the jig). She's looking good, hopefully the mojo will allow you to get this done!
Title: Re: 1:72 Roden SE5a
Post by: Dirigible-Al on March 02, 2025, 04:35:02 AM
I agree, good to see this moving again.
Alan.