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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Mike Norris (UK) on April 12, 2024, 07:06:51 AM

Title: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on April 12, 2024, 07:06:51 AM
Hi all,
I previously built the Copper State Models 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C, serial No.1260 of No.5 Wing (RNAS), operating from Dover as part of Home Defence in 1916.

I'm now building the same model, but Scout serial No.1264, as it is now, flown by owner/builder David Bremner.
This model is of aircraft as flown by David's grandfather, Sub. Lt. Francis Holden ‘Bunnie’ Bremner of No.2 Wing (RNAS), operating from the Greek island of Thasos, off the coast of Bulgaria, during 1916.

This aircraft can be built from the kit, but only as it was during WW1.

However, David's present reproduction aircraft has differences, primarily in the cockpit.
These differences require the following modifications to the cockpit:

Remove the opening panel in the cockpit rear cross member
Remove the control lever from the upper right longeron
Fit the Pulsometer to cockpit right side frame and add associated pipe
Replace Tachometer drive with lead wire
Fit curved quarter panels at the front and rear of the cockpits upper longerons
Create engine controls (with control rods) at the cockpit left side frame, lower left of pilots seat
Replace pilots seat with better quality 3D printed seat (Gaspatch)
Remove the pre-molded clock from top, left side of the instrument panel
Add representation of the clock above magneto switch at lower left of the instrument panel
Remove compass and its housing from between the pilots foot boards
Add blip switch cable to rear of control column and under pilots foot boards
Add all visible cockpit bracing wires and control cables (rudder, ailerons and elevators)
Add modern four point safety harness in addition
Fit kit supplied lap straps behind the pilots seat
Add ‘Bunnie’s’ flying certificate to the map holder.
 
Also the engine is the Le Rhone 9J (supplied in the kit (pre-orders only).
The engine was built as supplied, apart from replacing the valve push rods with Nickel-Silver tube and adding spark plug lead using Modelkasten 0.6 (0.13mm) line,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit4.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit5.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit6.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/pit7.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/eng1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/eng2.jpg)

Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on April 12, 2024, 07:29:34 PM
Nice work Mike, and a great subject for a build. And you have some nice recent colour photos to base your build on as well! Lovely start btw.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: djuggie on April 12, 2024, 10:47:27 PM
Looking at your work makes my eyes water.  Beautiful cockpit and I love the engine.
Dennis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Softscience on April 12, 2024, 11:34:04 PM
That engine looks amazing. Do you blackbase and then add the metallic colors?
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: macsporran on April 13, 2024, 11:05:07 PM
Looking at your work makes my eyes water.  Beautiful cockpit and I love the engine.
Dennis

Ha, your comment, Dennis, reminds me of the late, great Michael Gambon who got fed up with stupid questions on chat shows so answered one saying that he used to be homosexual, but had to give it up because it made his eyes water!!!
Superb modelling, Mike.
Sandy
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: PrzemoL on April 14, 2024, 12:01:40 AM
Yet one more beauty in the making.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on April 14, 2024, 09:49:14 PM
That engine looks amazing. Do you blackbase and then add the metallic colors?

Yes I airbrush prime with a gloss black, such as 'Tamiya' X1, then apply 'Alclad' metalics (Steel, Duraluminium, engine exhaust etc).
Then brush 'AK Interactive' Kerosene wash over the cylinder fins etc,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on April 14, 2024, 09:51:50 PM
Nice work Mike, and a great subject for a build. And you have some nice recent colour photos to base your build on as well! Lovely start btw.

Hi Nigel,
Yes I got the OK from David Bremner to walk around 1264 in the hanger at the Shuttleworth collection at Old Warden, Bedforshire.
So plenty of external and internal shots for reference,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: KiwiZac on April 15, 2024, 03:26:24 PM
Nice work Mike, and a great subject for a build. And you have some nice recent colour photos to base your build on as well! Lovely start btw.

Hi Nigel,
Yes I got the OK from David Bremner to walk around 1264 in the hanger at the Shuttleworth collection at Old Warden, Bedforshire.
So plenty of external and internal shots for reference,

Mike
That's great Mike! I'm very excited to follow along with this as my personal preference is to build modern "warbirds" rather than in-service machines, and I'm interested to see your approach to this rather well-known (and so well-documented) aircraft.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: AngryJazz on April 19, 2024, 06:53:36 PM
Always enjoy your builds! This one is already looking amazing  :)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 19, 2024, 07:14:09 PM
Oh my Mike, another stunner in the works! I don't know how you do it!

Hats off to you, sir!

BC
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on April 29, 2024, 12:14:36 AM
Hi all
When daylight from above passes through the clear doped linen covering of this aircraft, the internal structures and bracing wires can be seen as shadows

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/structure.jpg)

To represent this effect, a combination of roundel decals, masking and painting and the addition of appropriate decals from the 'Xtradecal' Black Stripes (XPS1) set was used
These will be airbrushed over to blend them with the base colour to create the shadow effect

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec4.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: RAGIII on April 29, 2024, 12:51:05 AM
Moving along nicely Mike. Your framework should look excellent when finished!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: ondra on April 29, 2024, 01:54:00 AM
Magnificient work, Mike, looking excellent so far.

Cheers.

Ondra
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Dutch522 on April 29, 2024, 01:07:36 PM
Beautiful, Mike... the Holy Grail of WW1 modelling—convincing sunlight through clear-doped linen! Looking forward to seeing the finish result.

Dutch
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on April 29, 2024, 06:31:20 PM
That's a definite labour of love and it really is going to look like the real thing. Lovely work.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on May 14, 2024, 01:57:20 AM
Hi all
The basic decals for the structure and rib tapes has been applied
The top surface tapes are 'Xtradecal' parallel white stripes (XPS2) decals.
The underside tapes are cut from 'Aviattic' Off White on Linen (ATT32241) decal
These were all 'faded' back with a light airbrushed coat of ‘MRP’ Clear Doped Linen (MRP-256)
The kit supplied roundels were then applied
The surfaces still need to be weathered slightly

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/decdone3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/decdone7.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/decdone8.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/decdone9.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/taildec1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/taildec2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2024, 02:15:01 AM
Beautiful paint work Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: FAf on May 14, 2024, 03:12:03 AM
Beautiful paint work Mike!
RAGIII

+1
Fredrik
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on May 14, 2024, 06:33:38 PM
That's looking really good Mike, the fabric treatment is really effective and realistic looking. I really like your use of the Aviattic decals for rib tapes, that was something I had in mind to do, especially now Richard has the white-backed decals in stock again.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: DaddyO on May 14, 2024, 06:51:48 PM
Looking good there Mike.

Really enjoying this thread even if I don't pop up every couple of posts - I'm sure, like a lot of us, I find the techniques, pictures and clear explanations both helpful and inspiring :)

Paul
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Rafael Berlin on May 14, 2024, 07:46:26 PM
Outstanding, Bravo!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: William Adair on May 14, 2024, 11:50:58 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: macsporran on May 15, 2024, 12:53:37 AM
Another masterclass!
Sandy
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: ondra on May 16, 2024, 04:29:24 AM
The canvas look tremendous, great job and thanks for sharing this inspirative technique, I have to try it out on one of my future builds. ;)

Cheers.

Ondra
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on May 29, 2024, 04:45:59 AM
Hi all,
I've now completed detail painting and decals etc.
Also all structural pre-rigging has been added as well as the elevator and rudder control cables.
Ready now to fit the upper wing,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/prerig.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on May 29, 2024, 06:18:28 PM
She's coming together beautifully and is going to look just like the real thing. Lovely work!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: William Adair on May 29, 2024, 11:11:12 PM
The fabric effect is astonishing  8)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2024, 01:04:58 AM
Outstanding work Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: AngryJazz on May 30, 2024, 06:24:02 PM
Just amazing paint and finish already! The plane looks stunning in these "delicate" colors!

I absolutely have to build my own at some point!  ;D
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on July 01, 2024, 07:55:19 PM
Hi all,
An update on this Scout build.
I've not done any modelling for around 5 weeks.
I was away in Cyprus for two weeks, then fighting off and chest infection for another two weeks.
Finally I found the upper wing had somehow been 'attacked' by my daughters dog and is way beyond repair!!!
So I'll remake the upper wing once a replacement kit arrives.

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: William Adair on July 01, 2024, 11:55:20 PM
Ouch! I hope St. Omer delivers the new wing and you are back up to speed soon!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on July 02, 2024, 05:44:19 PM
Sorry to hear you've been ill Mike, hope you are feeling much better now.

And in other news - Bristol Scout wing damaged in dogfight........... ;D
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: gedmundson on July 03, 2024, 12:32:16 AM
Excellent job on your internal framing/rigging shadows and cockpit.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: RAGIII on July 08, 2024, 10:35:52 PM
sorry to hear you were ill and the Dog ate your wing  :'(  I am looking forward to the new wing and seeing this one finished!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on July 21, 2024, 05:54:43 PM
Hi all
After the dog destroyed the original upper wing, I've now finished the replacement wing
I've added the intermediate wing spar on both upper and lower wings, which I missed before
Now sorting out the cabane and interplane struts before pre-rigging starts

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec9.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec11.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec10.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/dec12.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on July 21, 2024, 06:14:49 PM
That's looking fantastic Mike, especially after you had to redo that hard work the dog destroyed! The fabric effect is superb, it really does look like the real plane.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: KiwiZac on July 22, 2024, 11:37:02 AM
You've done such a terrific job Mike, I'm so sorry you had to do it again.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: PJ Fisher on July 22, 2024, 12:07:00 PM
this is a handsome build
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: macsporran on July 22, 2024, 04:53:56 PM
Another amazing Scout from you, Mike. The shadow ribs and spars are extremely realistic. Great stuff.
Sandy
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: William Adair on July 22, 2024, 05:38:55 PM
It looks fantastic. I'm so sorry that you had to do the wing again, but the result is totally worth it!  :)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: RAGIII on July 23, 2024, 11:54:58 PM
Superb re-make Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on July 24, 2024, 04:21:41 AM
Hi all,
The model has been pre-rigged and the upper wing fitted
Now it's onto final rigging

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SCOUT1264/wingon.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: NigelR on July 24, 2024, 05:14:51 AM
Looking very much the business!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: AngryJazz on July 30, 2024, 04:08:40 PM
Stunning work Mike! Im always impressed with your "ribs" and translucent markings  :)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Bristol Scout C 1264
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on July 31, 2024, 12:26:48 AM
Hi all,
The model is finished and up on the Completed Models page.
Thanks for your support and comments throughout this build

Mike