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Title: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 11, 2024, 10:02:44 AM
April 10, 2024

Many years ago two gentlemen formed a company call Veeday Models.  They had the audacity to produce WW1 models in a short run injection format.  What a crazy idea.  Veeday did not last long but a new company, Pegasus Models, was created.  Models that we never thought would be produced in any medium, except maybe vacuform.  Over the course of the next 20 years or so, Pegasus went on to produce 46 WW1 model in 1/72nd scale.  He ventured into 1/48th a little but his main thrust was 1/72.  He produced 1500 castings per mold.  I bought everything he produced and of the 46 kits, I built all but 8 of them.  Over the course of this year, I will attempt to build all of his kits. 

This model is the Pegasus Albatros D.III and as is with all Pegasus kits, decals and metal parts were provided.  The box and parts are shown in the first photo.  By today's standards, the kits are crude, but there was nothing else on the market with the exception of Revell and Airfix.  Toko, Eduard and Roden were not even on the horizon.

The interior was completed out of the box, adding only seat belts.  The engine came from the spare parts box for a little more detail.  The bottom of the engine was cut off so it would fit on the platform.   It was easier than cutting a hole in the platform.  The machine guns appeared to be a little stubby, so I used some Eduard barrels and lengthened them a little.  The color scheme is being researched and some of it will be revealed in the next post.  The fuselage is ready for putty work and all metal parts have been straightened and cleaned up

Dennis



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Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: DaddyO on April 11, 2024, 05:08:18 PM
Great to see another Pegasus model being built Dennis.

Only built two so far, but they are some of my favorites being basically accurate and nice a sharp where it matters needing only some love and detail added to bring them right up to current standards  ;)

I had no idea that there were 76 different WW1 kits available (I've got perhaps a dozen on the shelf and thought I was doing pretty well) . . .

Anyway following with interest
Paul
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: PrzemoL on April 11, 2024, 05:35:46 PM
That is true vintage modeling! Good luck with the build and the entire plan to build them all!
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: NigelR on April 11, 2024, 06:24:44 PM
Takes me down memory lane! My first build on the WWI Mailing List was the Pegasus Oeffag Albatros. This was back in 1998/9 when I started to get back into modelling. Chris Gannon, the man behind Pegasus, was a fixture at Scale ModelWorld and was renowned for always turning up immaculately dressed (not difficult compared to most modellers.....  ;D).

Lovely start Dennis. With a bit of care these can be made into great models. And of course some Pegasus kits are still available from Freightdog Models, who took over the Pegasus line. 
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: WD on April 11, 2024, 08:24:11 PM
Wow Dennis, yeah. You and Nigel are really taking me back with Pegasus kits and the list!

Looking forward to this.

Warren
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: macsporran on April 11, 2024, 08:47:02 PM
I remember Chris Gannon, in his suit, at all the Scottish National shows, back in the Albert Hall, Stirling days.

He was always hugely enthusiastic and loved to share development plans and welcome suggestions I built all the 1/48 Blue Max kits and was so disappointed when he chucked the towel in. I recall him telling me how he had spent so long getting the exact 'buttery' plastic mix that he wanted to make carving easier - some loved it, some hated it. He had only ventured one or two in the 4th SilverWings series - seem to remember a Martin-Baker MB5.

Great guy. I wonder what happened to him?
Sandy
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 11, 2024, 10:13:12 PM
I thank everyone for the positive feed back on the Albatros build.

I would have liked Chris as I too like my suits.  What a dapper pair we would have made.  I had an arrangement with John at Aeroclub that as soon as a new Pegasus was released, he would send it to me, no questions asked.  He was also a nice man and we spoke on the phone regularly.  I even spoke with Joe Chubbock once.  The WW1 group in the UK is a tight nit group and always ready to help some one on the other side of the Pond.

I never built any of Chris' Blue Max kits but he did hit on another of my favorite eras with the Flapjack.  That's on my shelf.

The wing is completed on the Albatros and all putty work should be done today.  Should have some photos on Friday.

Dennis

Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 11, 2024, 11:45:49 PM
I misspoke.  Pegasus made 46 1/72nd scale kits, not 76.  Sigh, I have 76 on my shelf unbuilt.  I have to live until I am 115 years old to even come close to finishing them.

Dennis
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: IanB on April 12, 2024, 02:28:05 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.
 I have quite a stash of Pegasus WWI kits and have built the A-W FK8 (I had some PE made for it and did a deal with Colin at Freightdog for him to include it in the kits he had left), and the Bristol M1.C. I've made a tentative start on the Vickers Gunbus, and the Taube is also in progress with 3d printed extras.
The DH4 is featured in a current build log here and I've designed and printed some add ons for that too.

Keep up the good work!

Ian
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: KiwiZac on April 12, 2024, 05:57:13 AM
This is terrific Dennis! I've got some experience with Pegasus but my skills weren't quite "there" yet: I feel now is the right time to tackle some of those on my wishlist (as you and I have discussed).

A great first post and I'm excited to see the next!
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Rick_H on April 12, 2024, 09:04:07 AM
After accumulating many Pegasus kits in the stash, I have finally embarked on the building of a Roland D-VIb.  Have been taken aback by the thickness of the molded parts.  Found that a small grinder helped with the interior, and probably should not have ground out the engine area, as the Roden engine I am trying to use just seems too big, no matter how much I hollow out the compartment.

My biggest question, though, is about the flying surfaces.  They seem awfully thick.  Are they thick on your Albatros too?  And if so, are you doing anything to thin them down, or just being happy with what you have?
Thanks,
Rick in Seattle
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 12, 2024, 10:46:48 AM
Rick,

You have chosen a very early Pegasus kit, about #8 and in the plastic bag.  My Albatros is about #22 and by this time he has thinned the flying surfaces.  I have yet to build this model but looked at one I do have and the wings are thick.  I may thin them or I may just live with it.  Not sure yet.  If I do thin them. I will rescribe the ribs with a single swipe of an engraving tool.   And thinning the interior is what I figured I would need to do as his early kits had very thick interior plastic.  Keep us posted on your progress as I have been know pilfer others ideas.  :-)

Dennis
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Dutch522 on April 12, 2024, 11:11:04 AM
Another great build in progress I see! Looks good so far, Dennis, love that motor.

Interesting history here too... I remember Pegasus kits being regularly advertised in the old Fine Scale Modeler, and picked up several at shows back in the late 90s and early Double-Aughts for a few dollars each; one of the Phönix D-series, an OEFFAG Albatros, and something else IIRC. Too teeny for me, though, I gave them all to Curt last year along with the psychedelic A-H "sworl" decals I picked up somewhere. He loves 1:72, so maybe one of 'em might actually get built in the next year or two.

Dutch
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Rick_H on April 12, 2024, 04:24:30 PM
Dennis,
Thanks, it never clicked for me that the boxed kits were a quality step beyond the bagged kits.  The only quality steps I was aware of were with the Siemens Schuckert D III kits, where there were three generations - molded in black plastic, then white, then grey, I think.  The first generation was really rough.  I have one of the white plastic ones been sitting on the shelf of doom for many, many years.  No telling how I will ever match that red paint on it.
Thanks,
Rick in Seattle
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 12, 2024, 10:42:08 PM
Rick,
Ah, the SS D.III.  Nothing but excitement on my part for this kit.  Crude?  Lord, yes.  I do remember this was the only kit that I know of that he re-issued.  I remember spending forever drilling out the spinner to make it look real.  The was no Aeroclub for aftermarket parts and reference material was skimpy at best.  I am holding one in my hand now and this must have been one of his later D.III's as it has a metal cowling.  And I did the kit decals of Udet's LO!  With a little care, this dresses up into a nice model.  I checked my records and mine was built in 1988.  This would make it my first Pegasus kit.
Dennis
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Softscience on April 12, 2024, 11:35:51 PM
Very cool. I'd love to see your collection of built Pegasus kits. I took a swipe at a few, but never managed to get far.
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 13, 2024, 01:26:31 AM
That would be quite an undertaking but I am not opposed to the idea.  I could break them down to Central and Allied powers and a couple of shots of each one over time.  Let me ponmder this some more.
Dennis
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: lone modeller on April 13, 2024, 06:49:02 AM
I had two Veeday BE 2c's: they were a bit crude but as you write there was nothing else available in the early 1980's when they were released. Then I stopped modelling for 30+ years and they never got built: Pegasus passed me by. I used the wings form one of the BE 2's to convert to an FE 2b (there is a build log on this site from around 2014 I think). I also built the Etrich Taube but found that the wings were very thick and the engine almost unuseable, but no matter, nobody else has produced one in this scale.

The Pegasus range was very ambitious - and as you write the other well known manufacturers were not even on the horizon when these kits were originally produced. I too would very much like to see your collection - it would make a marvellous archive.

Good luck with the current build.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 16, 2024, 05:27:42 AM
April 15, 2024

When Dave posted his pictures of his 1/32 Albatros, I knew I needed one in 1/72.

The strips are two different methods.  The wing strips are masked and painted and even taking care, there was a slight amount of overspray from the lower wing.  For the fuselage, I spayed paint clear decal sheet red and cut each piece individually and applied it to the model.  I am very pleased with the results even though I envisioned a nightmare at the tail with all of the contours.  The decals fell right into place and only minor touch up painting was required.

The undercarriage was trimmed, rigged and installed.  Then the wheels were installed.  I like to get my models on their wheels as soon as possible.  Final construction will take place in the next few days, with a completion date of maybe this week

Dennis


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Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Rick_H on April 16, 2024, 09:48:24 AM
That "painted decal" trick sounds really good!  It unlocks possibilities for other aircraft that I never expected to build.  Thanks!
Rick in Seattle
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: NigelR on April 16, 2024, 06:03:42 PM
That's worked really well. Painting clear decal is a good way of ensuring a colour match, and it worked out really well. I would hate trying to mask that fuselage in 1/32, let alone 1/72! Great choice of colour scheme and this is looking really good so far. Nice modelling!
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: KiwiZac on April 17, 2024, 09:11:33 AM
You're a braver modeller than I, and so far it looks like it's paying off! I'm really enjoying this and I'm excited to get my hands on more Pegasus kits when I can.
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: WD on April 18, 2024, 01:37:36 AM
Dennis, you're so much braver than I, wow!  Brilliant idea and execution on that fuselage, but the tail end is fantastic, I don't see how you did it.

Warren
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: DaveB on April 18, 2024, 03:32:19 AM
Dennis,

That's great work on your Pegasus kit which are not the easiest to put together - glad I gave you inspiration for the colour/marking scheme!

Look forward to seeing this completed.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 19, 2024, 03:14:02 AM
March 18, 2024

The model is now complete.  Until a few weeks ago, I never knew this color scheme existed until Dave B displayed his beautiful model in 1/32nd scale.  What you see is based 100% on his build, only in a smaller scale.

The model is a typical Pegasus kit.  Crude by today's standards but very buildable kits.  They were a transition from vacuforms and prior to the Eastern European companies that would follow in a few years. The later kits included metal parts and decals.  The decals on this kit are 30 years old and applied as if they were printed yesterday.  No varnish coat was added and no setting solution was needed.

Under the harsh light of the camera all of the warts are visible.  At least the ones I let you see. :-)  I am pleased with the build and I guess that's what counts.  My goal is to build all of the Pegasus kits and I have seven to go.  I will be duplicating some kits that are already built but I would like all of Chris Gannon's models.  I am shooting for 2024 to finish all of his kits.

Dennis 
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Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: WD on April 19, 2024, 05:24:39 AM
Wonderful Dennis!

Warren
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Borsos on April 19, 2024, 05:50:27 AM
Pegasus Kits! I remember me changing Deutsche Mark into Pound Sterling at my local Bank and sending the money cash in an envelope containing my order. I remember also that I built the Albatros D. I and the Roland D. II. I started the Halberstadt D. II but never finished it.
Great to see a Pegasus kit being built. I can‘t remember another one in this forum.
Andreas
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Softscience on April 19, 2024, 12:55:05 PM
Really nice work. I find building high end kits of biplanes in 1/72 to be extra tricky
 The fact that this is a fairly primitive (relatively speaking) short run makes your results even more impressive. And considering how fast you did it! Wow!
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: NigelR on April 19, 2024, 05:41:30 PM
Very nice result on a basic kit and a challenging colour scheme. Well done, and on to the next Pegasus kit!
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 19, 2024, 07:12:01 PM
I love what you have done with this kit; in some ways I see the Pegasus D.III as a good alternative to the other kits out their on the market, for its relatively good shape and simplicity. These kits are still worth lots of love, I think.

I do have quite a few Pegasus kits in my stash given they do some subjects not otherwise covered well by mainstream manufacturers. One day I will pluck up the courage to build one  ;D

Great stuff!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: djuggie on April 19, 2024, 10:17:03 PM
I want to thank everyone for their kind comments on my Albatros.  It makes me feel good that others feel the same way I do about Pegasus kits.  Chris Gannon took short run injection to the state of the art and did produce kits that are still not available in any scale.  And your stories about your experiences make me feel good.  I am not alone.  Especially since the hobby has moved to the larger scales.  And I do build quickly.  I don't like to spend more than a few weeks on any one plane.

Now on to another Pegasus but wait,there is a roadblock of a WNW Junkers D.I is in the way.  It is already well under way and I am going to treat is as a quick build.  I like the D.I as my first vacuform was the Rareplanes vacuform.  I will photograph the two together.

Also, all of my Pegasus Allied Powers have been photographed and are ready for posting.  Maybe today

Dennis
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: Rip Van Winkle on April 20, 2024, 12:48:06 AM
  That is really impressive.  I have a few Pegasus kits but I am  afraid to try one.
Title: Re: Pegasus Albatros DIII
Post by: DaveB on April 22, 2024, 04:50:22 AM
Dennis -

What a great result on your DIII mate!

I know that this is not an easy scheme to paint having done it myself but this must have been even more difficult in 72nd scale so well done, sir.

Regards

Dave

PS - are you going to display on 'Completed models' section?