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Modelers Lounge => The World of Scale Models => Topic started by: AngryJazz on March 02, 2024, 05:51:43 AM
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Hi Guys,
My more relaxed build after the WNW Dolphin. I read a lot of good things about this kit from Border model on LargeScalePlanes, so had to try for myself.
For the price (~50€) you really get a lot of details out of the box - I only added the mask set.
I know the scale Border chose is a little annoying to many people, but it does not matter that much to me. Same with some of the inaccuracies in the kit... I will not correct them. It's just a enjoy the build kit and hopefully it resembles a FW190 in the end :)
One thing that does annoy me however is the errors in the manual. I found 4 spots so far where parts numbers and left / right were swapped. Managed to catch 3, but 1 inside the wheel well I noticed to late.
If there's some things you really want to see of the build - then just ask! I don't plan on making a really detailed build log. Just a few highlights ;D
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Scheme for the build
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Catching up - I have built the engine and started the cockpit. Really impressed with the engine out of the box! You could add wires if you wanted :)
Getting the exhaust into place was really difficult, some touch ups are needed when its installed in the airframe.
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Really nice looking engine!
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I’ll be really interested to follow along with this, Ben. The Focke-Wulf has always been one of my favorite WWII aircraft, and this one looks to be a beauty (and I have no problem with the scale).
Just as a bit of trivia, IIRC the use of 1:35 for models came about because in the early 1960s Tamiya decided that was the smallest scale they could use to produce their tank kits and still have room for two C/Type 2/U11 batteries to run the electric motor!
Dutch
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This is a wonderful kit. But be careful: According to Bret Green the markings you‘ve chosen are in fact for an A-8 and do not fit this A-6 model:
https://www.hyperscale.com/2023/reviews/kits/borderbf003reviewbg_1.html
Andreas
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Hey Ben, this one is shaping up nicely. I have the kit and was wondering if you could shoot me the instructions errors.
Steve
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Thank you all - I guess there's a bit more interest for this build than I thought :)
@Boros - Thanks for the link! Someone else also told me its an A-8 marking... Quite annoying to have the decals in the kit and not the parts :-\
I may go for the scheme anyways and throw accuracies out the window as the other A-6 markings don't catch my interest...
Very cool Dutch I did not know that! ;D
For Steve and others ill post a few of the findings. Please check yourself before gluing - if i somehow swapped an part myself by mistake.
Also be aware of the indicated holes to be drilled. Border does not mention what they are for or what scheme they are used for. Rockets, drop tanks etc...
E24 and E25 are switched.
E17 and E18 are switched.
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E11 and E12 are switched.
PE8 is wrong... maybe its PE6 but im skipping this part as it will be invisible in the end.
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Just as a bit of trivia, IIRC the use of 1:35 for models came about because in the early 1960s Tamiya decided that was the smallest scale they could use to produce their tank kits and still have room for two C/Type 2/U11 batteries to run the electric motor!
Dutch
Whether it was for the battery size or not, I cannot say, but it is true that Tamiya-San is the creator of the scale. That much is true.
Ben, it looks like a great kit and that you're having fun.
Warren
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Enjoy the build! My only issue with the kit is that so far the aftermarket decal industry hasn't produced anything for it and three of the kit's decal options are markings for Fw190A-8 variants. The four options for Hackl, Josten, Priller, and Schott are the only ones on the sheet that are appropriate for an A-6. The decals for Dahl, Lixfeldt, and Moritz were all A-8s and beyond that the latter two were the heavily armed and armored 190A-8r2 subvariant.
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Border Model has been pumping out kits in this scale so I'm very excited and curious to see this come together. So far it looks fantastic (decal and part number errors aside)!
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Great start on a Beautiful kit in what some of us think of as a Strange scale. If one is doing a diorama with vehichles in the same scale perhaps it makes sense. That being said your work looks terrific!
RAGIII
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Thank you Warren, Vickers, Zac and RAGIII :)
Im getting close to be able to weather and close the cockpit, so hopefully a picture or 2 tonight.
As for decals I unfortunately found a few more issues when applying the instruments...
Decals are printed off center. So on the dial is on the edge of the carrier film on one side - clear film on the other.
Some dials have a green, yellow or blue background meant to represent the rim of the instrument.... Yes these are also printed off center of the dials. Making it 3 elements (dial, background, carrier film) slightly off center from each other.
Furthermore the instruments are poorly detailed - some are just black and white dots. Decals are also very matte in finish.
And just to make it worse - they are very brittle. I had 2 dials float / break apart just sitting on the paper (I dip the decals for 10 sec and place them on a piece of paper to slowly release).
Only good thing is they settle down nicely since they are so thin.
Enough rambling... I would recommend upgrading with aftermarket for the cockpit :-\
I have the Border Models 1/35 Nakajima B5N2 Type 97 "Kate" on order, so interested to see if there's any improvements.
I would like to point out that im still enjoying the kit. Fit and details make it very worth while to work with the smaller issues :)
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What about a very rich man releasing WW1 kits in 1:35 scale suddenly… Wouldn’t 1:35 be a perfect scale for WW1 biplanes… :)
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For me the 1/35 scale makes sense and I like it. Just a little smaller than 1/32 - but suddenly I have many more figures, vehicles and diorama stuff available to me :)
AND I can use all the stuff for my 1/35 tank builds also!
But maybe im a little biased since I have only been modeling for a few years and never 1/32 before Wingnut Wings.
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So far it doesn't look like the aftermarket has shown any love for 1/35 a/c decal-wise. Some HGW, Eduard, Quinta details but nothing to correct the shape problems - (Ju 87 prop, 109 canopy) I'm not sure of the process but surely the 10% reduction in size of the multitude of Fw190, Bf109G decal sheets out there can't be too difficult. Would the release of some be mutually beneficial? Border, Takom etc. seem to have connections with various paint companies, why not decal companies?...is anyone out there listening....
Steve
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Given the fact that the odd plastic interior resin exterior HPH/Infinity B5a2 Kate in 1:32 costs around 200€, not to mention the additional detail sets they‘re selling, I am quite happy with a high quality injection molded alternative from Border models in 1:35. I got an aircraft carrier (at least the bridge from the Akagi) including the Border Kate for less money :)
It’s equal with the Fw-190. I decided between the Zoukei Mura A-4 and the Border A-6 for half the price…
When it comes to decals, there‘s „Cut Then Add“, they offer at least decals in 1:35 for the Border Kate:
https://www.ctamodels.com/shop/scale-1-35
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Good point Borsos! The price was one of the reasons I choose the Border model FW190 over the Zoukei-Mura one.
I know the ZM is stunning and just filled with details, but it costs ~135€...
The surface details on their Kate looks stunning... Stretched skin effect ;D
Will also be getting their HE111 and B-17 for sure.
Back on track - I'll let you all see if the kit details are good enough. For now its all unglued while I adjust the weathering to my liking. Going to tone down the dirt in the cockpit a bit and maybe add more to the engine area later.
Parts are matte varnish and a drop of X-22 added to the dials.
Oh forgot to mention - there's no clear parts for the sight... Only grey plastic. I guess I could make my own, but this build is more about having fun and not get bogged down with all the little details.
Next error in the instruction are the missing steps for extended gear legs. You will need parts G34+35. Also the position of the "triangle" around the shock absorber is wrong in the instruction. It ofc needs to be moved up. Sorry I dont recall the names of the parts.
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Error
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Looking good Ben! The cockpit and engine look terrific.
I'd be curious to see how this compares in terms of detail with the new(ish) Revell 1/32 190 as that seems to go for reasonable prices.
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That looks very nice!
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Thanks guys :)
The build has moved forward a bit - trying to get it ready for primer.
Painted and weathered the insides of all panels + fixed the seams.
I replaced the outer guns with brass rods since they were fragile and broke on me many times (managed to wedge a blade into the wing and cut the old ones out).
Fit is mostly good! Many panels coming together in a round shape. With a little pressure the gaps disappears.
I plan to have the cowlings open, so no seam will be visible :)
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Cover on
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with a little pressure
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That is really stunning work! You almost tempt Me to start another scale 8)
RAGIII
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That looks terrific, Ben!
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Fit looks great and your detail painting is excellent.
Steve
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Thanks a lot all of you!
Done the last bit of cleanup, primer and some basic pre shading. Did not go crazy with the shading and additional colors this time. I want to try a few post shading techniques on this build :)
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Oh my! That is some serious pre-shading. This is going to be gorgeous.
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Love watching your process, Ben; ever since seeing that awesome Whiskey Cobra I've been a huge fan of your skills with an airbrush!
Dutch
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This is really shaping up!
Steve
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Thank you very much for the kind words :)
My freehand airbrush were a bit rusty, so trying to mottling for the first time was a bit of a experience ;D
I did get some color on the FW, but let me be the first to say i'm not happy with them.
They just look a bit "Off" to my eye.
The grey are too violet and the green is not black enough.
I made the mistake of using Hataka (orange cap) for the RLM75... And forgot how poor they are at matching colors...
The green is my own mistake - I did not have a RLM74, so mixed one. It looked good on my test, but somehow looks wrong on the model...
So now you will have the pleasure of watching me try to figure out a way to correct it ;)
Exchanged a few pictures with a friend, to try and find a good way forward. I see 3 options.
1. Order new paints and start over.
2. Overspray some very thinned grey / black to correct the colors.
3. Use oils and filters and try and get what i want.
Option 1 means losing the preshade or having to re prime / strip the paint. It would set me back a few weeks.
Option 2... I could lose some shading, but it's workable and I can post shade the missing details. However I have a history of making more trouble for myself doing this...
Option 3 is what i'm going with this time. The oils etc can be removed or manipulated if I don't like this direction. It seems like a safer option.
Also I choose the A8 scheme even though I don't have correct parts for it... Most noticeable the armor plates around the cockpit.
From the start I decided not to go too much into details and just have fun, so lets see how it turns out :)
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The colors look a bit better after decals are on. Guess they help break up the colors a bit.
Hopefully some touch up before varnish and oils can be applied tomorrow :)
And again - the Border model decals are terrible. Ultra thin and fragile, so you better place them correct first try since they suck down to the surface and are very hard to adjust without damage.
The band on the tail had to be masked and painted since the decal were troublesome. At least it gave me the chance to correct the color to what i wanted - the decal was bright orange.
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Those colours look good to me. Like you say, maybe the markings help. All in all this looks very good.
Steve
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I seem to have missed a lot! The Mottling and shading is awesome. You must have shaken the Rust off quickly ;D Looking even better with the markings. Gorgeous work!!
RAGIII
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Thank you Steve and RAGIII :)
Had 2 days off after easter, so wanted to finish my build. I made it! Just added the wire right now and I'm calling it good!
Originally wanted to do more post shading, but what I had in mind was difficult on a camo scheme. Ended up keeping it more simple and I think it came out alright.
Some final pictures tomorrow with a base and background. For now a few bench pictures :)
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Top cowling is removable.
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Awesome finish! Lovely work all around!!
RAGIII
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For some reason I find the Fw 190 very appealing, it's probably my favourite aircraft to model. I think you've done a splendid job with the painting, really capturing the brutish look!
/F
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Love it, Ben, this tops the Dolphin (although my favorite so far is still your amazing Super Cobra). This is the first 1:35 aircraft model I've ever seen... I'll have to investigate further, so thanks for alerting me to the fact that they are, in fact, out there!
Dutch
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Awesome
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Thank you very much! :)
Final pictures are giving me some trouble, but hopefully soon!
@Dutch - The cobra was a fun build, thanks! I got the Border Model - Nakajima B5N2 Type 97 Carrier Attack Bomber "Kate" - on pre order. It should be a stunning kit! Will start it as soon as a mask set is released.
I could be tempted with a more modern subject while I wait... ;)
All in all Border definitely released a good kit! Took me about 6-7 Weeks to complete, which is pretty fast for me.
There are trouble area like poor manual and decals... and well some accuracy issues + missing parts for the A8 schemes.
However the fit is good and the details are amazing for the price (50€).
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Just caught up here. Terrific model. Your preshading looks spot on to me, lovely subtle effects.
Not sure I'm happy about yet another scale but the kit certainly looks tempting enough.
Nice one.
Sandy
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Thank you very much Sandy!
As promised a few final pictures. The lighting was giving me some trouble, but here they are.
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Very sharp!!
Steve
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Stunning job, well done!
Cheers,
BC
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Thank you :)
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Magnificent Ben, your pre-shading is absolutely spectacular in it's realism as is the weathering, particularly on the undersurfaces. Beautiful work!
Cheers,
Lance
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I agree with all of the previous comments! Gorgeous results!!
RAGIII
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GREAT JOB! It looks breathtaking!
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Thank you all - you are too kind ;D