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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Tim Mixon on January 23, 2024, 01:18:11 AM
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My current project is this limited run Roseplane resin kit. This is not the best quality kit I’ve come to expect from them. However, it does provide an excellent base for detailing.
The V-25 was one of several variants of the Fokker V-17. The V-25 utilized a Fokker Dr.1 fuselage and tail section. The same Oberursel radial engine as well. None of these variants were put into production so very little reference material is available.
I plan to build mine as a what-if model in production warpaint markings.
Here is one of the three actual photos I found of the aircraft.
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The Kit drawing:
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The kit components (no box provided)
The Dr.1 photo etch interior is from VLE models and I think is included with the Roseplane model.
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I decided to add a few more detailed parts borrowed from the extras in an Edward Fokker D.VII kit. The undercarriage struts are from an ESCHI Fokker D.VII
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I had to radically thin out the fuselage interior if I intended to use the photo etch parts. I was still skeptical if the PE would work
I accidentally ground a hole through the fuselage wall. This was patched with thin Evergreen sheet and putty.
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After all that I primed the interior and applied some off color four color lozenge decal. This was to represent the reverse side of the exterior lozenge. I also scratch built the interior wooden fuselage formers.
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I was unable to make the PE framework fit so only used the flooring details.
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Here’s the construction ready for primer. I recently bought a CMK razor saw and made quick work of cutting out the ailerons. Why haven’t I tried this earlier?
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I also ground out channels in the wings and added half round to the ailerons for better fit
I imagine that if this aircraft were to have made it into production, then the wing surface would have been painted the same as the wooden Fokker D-VIII. Current theory suggests that the wing was streaked green and brown on the upper surface and light blue and mauve on the underside.
I started with a base of wood tone.
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Then I streaked on Model Master dark green. Taking care to leave some wooden tone visible. I then applied Flory dark clay wash in the same angular pattern.
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The underside was streaked with Model Master French light blue and Poly Scale WWI purple. Then a lighter wash of Flory dark clay applied.
After it all dried, I brushed water over the surface to remove excess Flory wash.
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I’m liking the end result.
Thanks for looking in!
Tim
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Like how this one is shaping up Tim
Paul
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Another rare bird, Tim! You're probably past the need for any more refs, but if you want I can check my WWI Aero library, Peter Grosz had an ongoing series of articles about the V-series and there may be more on the V-25 in there somewhere.
Dutch
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An interesting subject, Tim.
Looks like a rotary engined version of the V.23 which was the very first scratchbuild I did:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9552.0
I would expect it would have been finished similar to the V.23 and I did have trouble finding an exact description.
Good luck in your completion!
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This is an interesting type - never heard of it before. You are making quick work of it too.
Stephen.
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I like the V type variants of the known Fokkers and have most of them in resin kits, mostly by Omega.
Excellent work so far Tim! I will follow with interest.
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Really like the "what-if" scheme. If purchased for production the Fokker wood wings would certainly have gone through the same workmanship recall as the E.V and had the same late Fokker streaking once reintroduced. Your streaking is masterfully done! I'm wondering what you have in mind for the fuselage and personal markings. Maybe a "Richtofen survived" scheme with a red/lozenge hybrid ala Dr.I 127/17 or 152/17?
Were the V.25 fuselage and empennage identical to the Dr.I? Seems like that would allow an easy semi-scratch from the Roden or Meng kit in 1:32.
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Great subject and that Roseplane kit doesn't look too bad as a starting point. Back in the day they were a holy grail!
Nice start, this is looking very good so far.
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Very fine project.
I am surprised by the nice look of the original kit parts.
And you are making it all into a small lovely model. Great job so far.
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Another rare bird, Tim! You're probably past the need for any more refs, but if you want I can check my WWI Aero library, Peter Grosz had an ongoing series of articles about the V-series and there may be more on the V-25 in there somewhere.
Dutch
Thank you Dutch. If you have the time and find anything interesting, I’d much appreciate it. I think this is a fascinating subject.
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An interesting subject, Tim.
Looks like a rotary engined version of the V.23 which was the very first scratchbuild I did:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9552.0
I would expect it would have been finished similar to the V.23 and I did have trouble finding an exact description.
Good luck in your completion!
What a beautiful build Kensar! That looks better than a mass produced kit. Is it 1/72 scale?
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Were the V.25 fuselage and empennage identical to the Dr.I? Seems like that would allow an easy semi-scratch from the Roden or Meng kit in 1:32.
Thank you Gary. The fuselage and empennage seem to be the same. I don’t have any technical drawings to compare with the Dr.1. If you were to scratch a 1/32 V-25, it may be better to start with the Roden Fokker D. VI. The Dr.1 upper is modified for the middle wing attachment and would require modifications.
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What a unique and interesting subject. Roseplane & Rosemont . . . . now there's a name I haven't heard uttered in these parts for many years. :(
Barry sure gave us some unique items, conversions, and kits during those years.
I'm enjoying seeing what you're doing with this.
Warren
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Were the V.25 fuselage and empennage identical to the Dr.I? Seems like that would allow an easy semi-scratch from the Roden or Meng kit in 1:32.
Thank you Gary. The fuselage and empennage seem to be the same. I don’t have any technical drawings to compare with the Dr.1. If you were to scratch a 1/32 V-25, it may be better to start with the Roden Fokker D. VI. The Dr.1 upper is modified for the middle wing attachment and would require modifications.
Great point, Tim! I thought the Roden F.I, Dr.I, and D.VI kits have duplicate fuselage parts for all options but after looking at them, the gun decking is molded on the wing sprue, not the fuselage sprue. The wing sprues obviously differ between the Dr.I/F.I and D.VI kits and Roden only gives the gun decking for the plane kitted.
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Tim,
What a beautiful build! I shied away from all resin due to sagging factor of the wings but there is not a problem with this kit in that area. My collection is filled with one of a kind aircraft.
Your kit is beautiful and your progress is very fast. Also, the proper scale. :) Very well done.
Dennis
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Excellent start Tim, I’m very excited to follow along!
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Part 2.
I’ve completed the Aviattic four color lozenge application. This is my first attempt at using Aviattic decals. I must say they live up to their excellent reputation! I’ve never experienced a decal that conforms so well to raised detail surfaces.
I do think the faded four color lozenge is a little too light though.
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I think I’m going to add a darker wash to the decals before I start adding the other details.
Thanks for looking in!
Tim
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Looks great, Tim, I love "what-if" stuff! BTW I looked in WWI Aero and what I remembered as being a construction drawing was actually for a flying Peanut Scale model of the V.21 by a gentleman in Poland. Not much application to what you're doing.
Dutch
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That's looking very good!
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Very cool project! Looking good ;D
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Thanks for all your support and comments during this build. I think this aircraft is probably the most modern design of the First World War. Kind of reminds me of a WWI Focke Wulf!
I added Balkenkreuz and a white rudder to emulate a factory fresh production model, if it had ever been accepted into production.
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Thanks for looking in!
Tim
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A lovely build, that turned out really well.
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I like that a lot! Great work Tim!!