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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: KiwiZac on January 06, 2024, 07:42:37 AM
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Eduard has announced this kit in their latest INFO newsletter (https://info.eduard.com/cz/01-2024/page-4) and the news (and 3D renders) posted by the ever-vigilant Homebee on Britmodeller (https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235134799-172-albatros-diii-by-eduard-3d-renders-release-in-summer-2024/).
A new 1/72 Great War kit from Eduard! Happy New Year!
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It will be worth the wait if it is as good as their Fokker D.VII. I am very much looking forward to it.
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Terrific news. 8) ;D
A new kit in Gentlemans Scale is always to be welcomed, but Eduard's are usually the easiest to put together with a nice decal selection that can be used without fear - what's not to be enthusiastic about (And hopefully there won't be any three piece wings to mess about with) ;)
Paul
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Oh! Be still my beating heart! Well, 25 years late is better than never, no? (Yes, it's been about that long since they promised us this kit.)
I must go sell a kidney now in order to buy the dozen or so that will keep all of my Eduard Nieuport kits company on my stash shelf. ;)
Warren
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Nice. Murphys law at its best. I am just building Rodens one. Not a bad kit, though...
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Terrific news. 8) ;D
A new kit in Gentlemans Scale is always to be welcomed, but Eduard's are usually the easiest to put together with a nice decal selection that can be used without fear - what's not to be enthusiastic about (And hopefully there won't be any three piece wings to mess about with) ;)
Paul
Yep, I’ll buy all boxings they release, to get decals for all my Roden boxes.
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Oh! Be still my beating heart! Well, 25 years late is better than never, no? (Yes, it's been about that long since they promised us this kit.)
I must go sell a kidney now in order to buy the dozen or so that will keep all of my Eduard Nieuport kits company on my stash shelf. ;)
Warren
Ha Ha haaa. love the humour, and the irony!
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Nice. Murphys law at its best. I am just building Rodens one. Not a bad kit, though...
A few folk at Britmodeller were bemoaning Eduard's decision given the Roden kit already exists*! Having built the Roden D.II I imagine the D.III has many of the same...shall we call them "design quirks"? Products of their time?
*Say it with me folks: "A kit for manufacturer A makes no money for manufacturer B(...unless manufacturer B gets to reissue it)!"
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Nice. Murphys law at its best. I am just building Rodens one. Not a bad kit, though...
A few folk at Britmodeller were bemoaning Eduard's decision given the Roden kit already exists*! Having built the Roden D.II I imagine the D.III has many of the same...shall we call them "design quirks"? Products of their time?
*Say it with me folks: "A kit for manufacturer A makes no money for manufacturer B(...unless manufacturer B gets to reissue it)!"
OH! Not only that, but on my FB post about it, along comes this guy "They need to do it in 1/35th to go with all the vehicles out there." Seriously, I love the "it's in the wrong scale crowd" just as much as the "Someone already makes a kit of that" crowd. >:(
Warren
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Nice. Murphys law at its best. I am just building Rodens one. Not a bad kit, though...
A few folk at Britmodeller were bemoaning Eduard's decision given the Roden kit already exists*! Having built the Roden D.II I imagine the D.III has many of the same...shall we call them "design quirks"? Products of their time?
*Say it with me folks: "A kit for manufacturer A makes no money for manufacturer B(...unless manufacturer B gets to reissue it)!"
OH! Not only that, but on my FB post about it, along comes this guy "They need to do it in 1/35th to go with all the vehicles out there." Seriously, I love the "it's in the wrong scale crowd" just as much as the "Someone already makes a kit of that" crowd. >:(
Warren
Thats Hilarious Warren! I haven't built a 1/72nd WW1 aircraft in a while but this one will be tempting! Still a 1/35th kit ::)
RAGIII
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This is wonderful news for those of us that build WW1 aircraft in the smaller scales. I, for one, am excited by this release.
Though the Roden kit is nice enough, the moulds are quite dated and, having built the Roden kit some years back, it kit takes a bit of effort to get together. An Eduard quality release here for this mainstream fighter is a magnificent prospect, and will complement their other 1/72 WW1 catalogue aircraft nicely (Fokker D.VII, Albatros D.Va, Nieuport 17... and the SPAD XIII if it gets re-released).
I'd speculate that their 1/72 Fokker D.VII has sold just well enough to encourage Eduard to do this one (I do know that there are some key folks in the Eduard team who still have a passion for WW1 subjects).
I can already see that they have avoided some of the mistakes from their 1/48 scale release (admittedly the moulds for that release is now 25 years or so old). Some other useful touches (comprehensive interior, aileron control horn cut outs, etc) would also be welcomed. I see no over-done rib tapes either on the renders (though something akin to what they did with their D.VII rib tapes would look the part, I think).
Hopefully we may get some aftermarket manufacturers doing some releases to complement this kit (decals, etc... though this didn't really happen with their D.VII release, so, fingers crossed).
Likewise i'll end up buying a few, I reckon.
If a man could dream, I would think that if sales do well enough, this hopefully could spur on other newer releases in this scale, perhaps utilising the data / info that Eduard already has for their 1/48 aircraft. Heaven knows 1/72 WW1 modellers could do with a good quality SE5a, Camel, Pfalz D.III, Nieuport 11, SSW D.III or Roland C.II in small scale....!
Cheers,
BC
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*Say it with me folks: "A kit for manufacturer A makes no money for manufacturer B(...unless manufacturer B gets to reissue it)!"
I’m one of ”those folks”, and no thanks, I won’t say that with you.
I understand very well why they selected the D.III (it
s the type they expect to make the most money from) but even though I am happy and excited about anout their choice I still chose to point out that there are plenty of types that are worse represented, to show that there is interest among the modeller to have kits of those as well. Not sure why it upset you so much you had to comment on it.
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I'd speculate that their 1/72 Fokker D.VII has sold just well enough to encourage Eduard to do this one (I do know that there are some key folks in the Eduard team who still have a passion for WW1 subjects).
If a man could dream, I would think that if sales do well enough, this hopefully could spur on other newer releases in this scale, perhaps utilising the data / info that Eduard already has for their 1/48 aircraft. Heaven knows 1/72 WW1 modellers could do with a good quality SE5a, Camel, Pfalz D.III, Nieuport 11, SSW D.III or Roland C.II in small scale....!
Cheers,
BC
Brad,
Back in 2005 when I met Vladimir Sulc at the IPMS Nats, he told me that he still had a love and a passion for 1/72nd because that's what he grew up building, so yeah, there are folks there who have a passion for it. I know I spoke with him at length as to why a Nieuport 17 would be a good idea. I'm just sorry it didn't do well for them economically, Someone told me once that they were banking on some popularity from the movie Flyboys which turned out to be an abortion. :(
As to your other point, I too would simply love to see a modern, state-of-the-art tooling of a SE5a, Camel, Pfalz D.III, Nieuport 11, SSW D.III or Roland C.II!
Warren
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Sorry to hear the Nieuports didn’t do well. I bought a whole flotilla of them - dirt cheap, so cheap I wondered how they could earn anything. Guess they didn’t.
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Nice. Murphys law at its best. I am just building Rodens one. Not a bad kit, though...
A few folk at Britmodeller were bemoaning Eduard's decision given the Roden kit already exists*! Having built the Roden D.II I imagine the D.III has many of the same...shall we call them "design quirks"? Products of their time?
*Say it with me folks: "A kit for manufacturer A makes no money for manufacturer B(...unless manufacturer B gets to reissue it)!"
Albatros D.I, D.II, D.III and W.4 from Roden share the same elements for the fuselage assembly. Only the wings differ. So yes, they share the same "design quirks" ;-)
asembling that fuselage is tricky but of course it resulted fr0m the company idea to cover many subtypes with the same sprue.
But they are buildable. You can find proofs in this forum, too.
Still, a modern-quality kit of D.III is more than welcome! Easy-assembly fuselage and better surface details will certainly be welcome, too.
I may even buy one, at least to be able to compare with nice but venerable Roden kits. And build it in another Polish livery! ;)
Nothing to complain about this announcement!!!! And may the other ones follow!
And yes, 72nd scale is very much alive!!!
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Yeah, I've still got my D.I and D.II kits in the stash along with a couple of Roden D.III's. I figure there's little chance of anyone else doing a D.I, D.II, or W.4 so I'm hanging on to those for sure.
Warren
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Latest from facebook - Quarter 2 2024 release:
(https://i.imgur.com/ovRc4Wd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FbMtnQv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qOWRm14.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZRINGgL.jpg)
:)
Cheers,
BC
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I saw this on FB earlier today. The CAD drawings look Awesome making this even More Tempting!
RAGIII
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Thanks for sharing the CAD drawings Brad!
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I'd like a dozen, please. 8)
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Hi everyone - here are some new renders from Eduard. Release date is now somewhere around the end of the year, all going well :)
(https://i.imgur.com/QRoee8b.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NlK5QFf.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KSD4Fl8.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OyulMFS.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AyBFAxR.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NEuiJ5r.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OMlWCnB.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FRnQYqJ.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/peD8MH1.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HJczTId.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vD2JgMV.jpeg)
This is not simply an up-scaling from their 1/48 release; we get correct panels, aileron arms, Albatros and OAW style rudders, and properly sized wheels, which is great. No overdone rivets or out of scale rib tapes either at this stage. We get both early and late style radiator positions as well (presumably why we get erroneous radiator pipes in the render).
Looking forward to this one!
Cheers,
BC
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Looks great. But one important point is that Alb and OAW versions also had different wooden panels around the engine. It seems that Ed has the fuselage for the Alb variant only.
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Good point, write them Prze!!!!\
I must practice my wood-graining skills!
Warren
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Good point, write them Prze!!!!\
I must practice my wood-graining skills!
Warren
Przemo just beat Me to mentioning the panel difference. That being said this one will certainly offer the Modeler Many Possibilities for markings! I am in for at least two!
As for wood grain, IMHO in this scale especially, Less is best 8)
RAGIII
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Looks great. But one important point is that Alb and OAW versions also had different wooden panels around the engine. It seems that Ed has the fuselage for the Alb variant only.
Indeed they did, but the changes could be made quite easily on this one, I think (as opposed to the 1/48 kit where they got the nose panels completely wrong for any variant). I suspect we won't get two different fuselages, but I could be surprised.
Cheers,
BC
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Looks great. But one important point is that Alb and OAW versions also had different wooden panels around the engine. It seems that Ed has the fuselage for the Alb variant only.
Indeed they did, but the changes could be made quite easily on this one, I think (as opposed to the 1/48 kit where they got the nose panels completely wrong for any variant). I suspect we won't get two different fuselages, but I could be surprised.
Cheers,
BC
We can only hope! They sure included a lot of parts on their Bf-109 kits, so . . . . . .
Fingers crossed!
Warren
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Looks great. But one important point is that Alb and OAW versions also had different wooden panels around the engine. It seems that Ed has the fuselage for the Alb variant only.
Indeed they did, but the changes could be made quite easily on this one, I think (as opposed to the 1/48 kit where they got the nose panels completely wrong for any variant). I suspect we won't get two different fuselages, but I could be surprised.
Cheers,
BC
We can only hope! They sure included a lot of parts on their Bf-109 kits, so . . . . . .
Fingers crossed!
Warren
It is possible. Roden did both fuselages in 1/32nd so why not Eduard!
RAGIII
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So... No Oeffag variants? :(
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So... No Oeffag variants? :(
Patience young Padawan. ;)
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Last info from Czech modeller forum. Only one fuselage (Alb) and two versions of wing radiator. Central and right wing version.
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So... No Oeffag variants? :(
(https://i.postimg.cc/ryZnN2pm/Edu-Sulc-Alba-DIII.jpg)
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Thanks Richard!
This is not surprising. So AH fans will have to do with Roden's 4 versions...
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According to the latest issue of Eduard Info, Vladimir Sulc said they're still on track to release this later on in the year.
Warren
<rubbing hands together like a plotting villain.> 8)
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Here's the extract mentioned -
(https://i.imgur.com/ZkO90X4.jpeg)
There's a good chance we'll see the D.III some time this year, which would be great. We sorely need a modern quality Albatros D.III in this scale. Interesting that the moulds are being out-sourced; I wonder who to?
Interested to see what colour schemes they might go for.
Cheers,
Brad C
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Brad, I noted the outsourcing comment too, and it causes me concern. On one hand, this could be great! On the other hand, maybe not so much. Hmmmmmm :-\ :-\ :-\
We do need a modern tooling of this a/c desperately in this scale. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that since Eduard said they were on a roll to reproduce in 1/72nd what they produce in 1/48th that we'll get a modern tool Sopwith Camel and SE5 which are desperately needed in 1/72nd.
Warren
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... that we'll get a modern tool Sopwith Camel and SE5 which are desperately needed in 1/72nd.
Warren
There is a lovely Roden's Camel still available. Their SE.5a was also decent, though I guess it is not so easy to find it nowadays.
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PrzemoL, I realize they're still available, but as to them being "lovely" or well-molded kits, well . . .
Warren
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PrzemoL, I realize they're still available, but as to them being "lovely" or well-molded kits, well . . .
Warren
Having built two Camels from Roden I really find nothing to complain about them. :) SE.5a is really more demanding, that is right. ;)
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Interesting that the moulds are being out-sourced; I wonder who to?
My guess is that Special Hobby was outsourced to make the tools for the Albatros D.III.
They had previously worked together on the release of the 1/72 Bf-109E, which both companies boxed with their own logos. Also SH is working on a Pfalz 1/72 kit. They probably have the know-how to do it.
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Thanks Richard, that's interesting. We'll see if Special Hobby has what it takes to mold a 1/72nd WWII fighter. Some of their recent WWII kits have been good (P-40) and not so good (Bf-109E). Let's hope the new Albatros D.III is NOT like their Bf-109E in terms of fit, dimensions, and snide customer service when modelers wrote in with problems.
Warren
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Interesting that the moulds are being out-sourced; I wonder who to?
My guess is that Special Hobby was outsourced to make the tools for the Albatros D.III.
They had previously worked together on the release of the 1/72 Bf-109E, which both companies boxed with their own logos. Also SH is working on a Pfalz 1/72 kit. They probably have the know-how to do it.
SH working on a Pfalz?Where did you get that Info from,I can't find anything about it on their site...
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malula I was wondering about the Pfalz too. E-type? D.III? D.IIIa? or some other Pflaz?
Warren
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malula I was wondering about the Pfalz too. E-type? D.III? D.IIIa? or some other Pflaz?
Warren
Well, talking about Pfalz aircraft I would go for the DIII as the most popular concerning its sleek Design...
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malula I was wondering about the Pfalz too. E-type? D.III? D.IIIa? or some other Pflaz?
Warren
Well, talking about Pfalz aircraft I would go for the DIII as the most popular concerning its sleek Design...
That would make me very happy, but what will I do with my stash of Roden Pfalzs' then? ;) ::)
Warren
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malula I was wondering about the Pfalz too. E-type? D.III? D.IIIa? or some other Pflaz?
Warren
Well, talking about Pfalz aircraft I would go for the DIII as the most popular concerning its sleek Design...
That would make me very happy, but what will I do with my stash of Roden Pfalzs' then? ;) ::)
Warren
Haha same for me here,Warren,not to forget all their wonderful Albatros D.III versions in my stashpile :P
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malula I was wondering about the Pfalz too. E-type? D.III? D.IIIa? or some other Pflaz?
Warren
Well, talking about Pfalz aircraft I would go for the DIII as the most popular concerning its sleek Design...
That would make me very happy, but what will I do with my stash of Roden Pfalzs' then? ;) ::)
Warren
Haha same for me here,Warren,not to forget all their wonderful Albatros D.III versions in my stashpile :P
Yes, I think I have two, and a couple of D.I's/II's, and I seriously doubt we'll get one of those from Eduard, but you never know.
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Hi all, I reached out to Jan Bobek at Eduard and asked about the moulding and marking options. His response (posted with his permission) is -
"I did my best to provide all Albatros D.III markings and photos from my library, so there is large work-in-progress long list in hands of Product Manager, but final markings are not selected yet.
The moulds are being prepared by Nastrojarna (toolshop) Vandělik, but some inserts are tooled by our toolshop. Vandělik family is based East of Prague and they cooperate with us 20 years. For instance mould for 1/48 Albatros D.V is done by them too. If you search name Vandělik in search bar of info magazine, you will see we are talking about them. It is toolshop run by wife-husband team. Mrs. Vandělikova is lovely lady, one of hidden roses of Czech plastic industry.
This is FB page of toolshop Vanděl?k https://www.facebook.com/nastrojarnavandelik/
I am sure they will be Happy about couple of new fans!"
So if the old 1/48 Albatros DV moulds are anything to go by, we should get a crisp, clean product, I would think.
On Special Hobby and Pfalz's, I have also heard nothing, so would welcome any additional information on that topic if someone has any?
Cheers!
Brad C
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Thank you so much for sleuthing that out Brad! I've liked the FB page too.
This is great news!
Warren
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On Special Hobby and Pfalz's, I have also heard nothing, so would welcome any additional information on that topic if someone has any?
There is already thread on this forum. "1/72 Pfalz E.V coming from Special Hobby".
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=14287.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=14287.0)
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Thanks Botan, I had completely forgotten about that thread.
Warren
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As had I! I might see if I can glean any more information out of Special Hobby on this one :)
Cheers,
Brad C
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Jan Bobek replied to my query on Hyperscale website about the release of this project:
?The moulds for this project are being prepared in cooperation with a long-term external partner. The kit is currently scheduled for release in winter 2025/26. ?
At least it?s still in the works!
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I'm glad it's still in process! On the other hand, other releases by other 1/72nd scale manufacturers such as Arma Hobby, etc. have severely fatigued my wallet and forced it into clinical depression, at least it can get a rest for a bit. ;) ;) ;)
Warren
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The kit is currently scheduled for release in winter 2025/26. ?
Great news, I am eagerly awaiting the release of Alba.