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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: macsporran on December 14, 2023, 02:07:08 AM
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I have long loved the fabulous Flight markings of the early 60 Squadron SE5s when they first arrived in France. The three Flights A, B & C had their noses etc painted in red, yellow or blue respectively and would make excellent subjects for a model - except for one major problem: these aircraft were SE5 not SE5a types with a very obviously different nose profile and to begin with tapered wings and stub exhausts etc.
This hasn't stopped various manufacturers issuing these colours on SE5a models/prints/profiles - which is just WRONG!
Eg Corgi with their die cast toys. No this is as bad as painting an Albatros D.III in a D.V or D.Va scheme.
So the major problem is there is no available 1/32 SE5 kit. Only 3 prototypes (A4561-3) and a batch of 24 (A4845-68), followed by a final batch of 50 (A8898-8947) were ever built and surviving SE5s were usually retro-fitted with the later blunt wings of the 5a and often up-engined to more powerful Suiza or Wolseley power-plants which necessitated adding the heavy chin of the 5a as well. So you can well understand manufacturers balking at producing a kit of an early SE5 when so few retained the slim nose profile. Unfortunately though the beautiful 60Sqdn markings need just such a kit.
Many years ago, (at school IIRC) I hacked and sawed a 1/48 Lindberg SE5a into the approximation of an SE5 and hand painted it in the flambouyant col,ours of Keith Caldwell's A8898 but for a long time now I've had the lovely Model Cellar Billy Bishop figure and a hacked up Roden SE5a sitting on the shelf of doom. Now I'm in the mood to try to resume this with a view to producing A8936 as shown in the nice, fairly accurate painting below. While still wearing the blue paint, this machine had the blunt 5a wings added and is shown in pictures with long exhausts - so this is what I am aiming for.
I have started this before, so no guarantees about finishing, but we'll see how we get on!
Sandy
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I'd previously cut away the 5a chin but given up thereafter when I contemplated the size of the job ahead - not just the nasal mods, but planning the masking for painting the complex blue, white and PC10 around the surgery.
My immediate task was to form the distinctive horseshoe radiator for the early 150hp Hispano Suiza powerplant. Variations exist and there is no picture to identify A8936 in particular but I have opted for the same radiator as fitted to Albert Ball's A4850.
It so happens the Roden kit I am using has a Wolseley Viper but this doesn't matter as this will be hacked about considerably (and hidden anyway). So lets get the Wolseley rad carved to H-S format and manufacture a new insert from card stock and some grill material I have (left over from building 1/24 F1 cars.)
Sandy
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Neat project, Sandy, pulling up a seat for this one! Always fascinated by these aeroplanes.... when I was doing Eric Hight's website back in the day (late '90s?) I got to keep the CSM 1:48 S.E.5 kit after photographing and posting it online, and gave serious thought to starting it... there was something about that steampunk greenhouse that really appealed to me, even knowing the pilots tore them off as soon as none of the brass were looking...
Dutch
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Hi Sandy,
Do you have access to the SE5 Windsock data file No.30?
Mike
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Thanks Mike - yes I have that DF and the SE Squadrons one. I've also got the comprehensive Air-Britain File, the Haynes manual and many and various titles by Crowood, Putnam, Osprey, FMP, Jane's etc - I'm kinda obsessed by the SE5/5a, which is why I get so exercised when illustrators, manufacturers etc mix them up! :)
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This will be a project to follow.
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A fantastic project and a somewhat daunting one in my eyes! Great start here, following with interest.....
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Thanks Mike - yes I have that DF and the SE Squadrons one. I've also got the comprehensive Air-Britain File, the Haynes manual and many and various titles by Crowood, Putnam, Osprey, FMP, Jane's etc - I'm kinda obsessed by the SE5/5a, which is why I get so exercised when illustrators, manufacturers etc mix them up! :)
Hmmmm - I think you've got it covered then ;D
Mike
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Thanks everybody, for your interest.
Looking again closely at a slightly clearer picture of A8936 in the 60Sqdn book (p65) in Osprey's Elite Units series, louvres are clearly in evidence over the radiator and short stub exhausts were fitted, in July 1917 (as depicted in the painting above). So I'm going to use this as my main ref photo/configuration.
Now to ponder best way of making the louvres.
Sandy
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Daunting but fascinating. I'm excited to follow along! All the best Sandy, you've made an excellent start.
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Wow what a project! And good progress already ;D
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Missed this! I do love to see a kit being saw up and re-assembled into something different! You have a real task there but I am certain that you are well up to it - and remember filler can hide a multitude of sins! (Guess how I know?)
Stephen.
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Thanks, chaps.
After a bit of faffing about with various bit of contoured styrene, I decided it was going to be no harder to construct the louvre apparatus out of strip and rod stock from scratch. So some double sided sticky tape was laid on an old yogurt pot to give me something of a decent size to work and the 11 louvre components attached. Actually getting these equally spaced but not jammed together was a real pain, but eventually I was happy with the result and some liquid extra thin was applied.
The louvre blocks were cut to size - a row of three narrow, 5 mid and 3 wide, then some extremely thin rod stock was applied vertically to replicate the connecting strips. These should be flat but I have had to compromise here for the sake of my sanity - many of the master modellers here may be appalled at my compromise, (and William would probably ace it in 1/144th!) - but I'm not aiming for a Telford-winning model here, there will likely be other compromises later. (The louvres would be ideally formed on a PE brass sheet, but I don't have the facility to do a Harry Woodman on that one.
Anyway, once cut to shape, the item was carefully peeled from double tape backing and tried in place on the radiator to see if it worked. It's a little uneven in the pic, but all will be squared off when properly attached after painting.
Well, I'm happy enough with the result.
Sandy
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It looks pretty convincing to me, very nice work Sandy.
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Nicely done Sandy, great to watch some good old fashioned scratch building / improvisation / success coming into play.
Wonderful project!
Cheers,
Lance
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Following with great interest as a 1/32 SE5 conversion set for the WNW or Roden is something that is on my list...
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Following with great interest as a 1/32 SE5 conversion set for the WNW or Roden is something that is on my list...
I am following along also. Excellent work! That conversion set is something I would certainly be interested in..Uncle Tony 8)
RAGIII
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Great work Sandy, and Bo: I think you'd be onto a winner with that.
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Thanks guys.
A conversion set from 'The Artist formerly known as Bo' would be a very welcome addition, especially if it included the early pointed wings of, for example, Albert Ball's A4850. (There is a terrific build on FB where Patrick Watson has created a masterly Ball conversion out of the WNW kit.)
Anyway holidays over, kids, grandkids etc off home: time to return to A8936. I'd primed it with Halfords White in a rattle can (great value) and now drew in the understructure in soft pencil, to try out something new. Rather than spraying over with my usual MRP Linen, I thought I'd brush paint with Humbrol 74 Linen so I could experiment with working the graphite lines with the brush for a bit of tonal variation.
Also gave me a chance to thoroughly use my mains-powered paint shaker: I'm never happy stirring Humbrol - it usually comes out quite patchy, but the shaker did a superb thinned job. First coat (1) was quite light and rather satisfying to use the graphite mix to work on shades. Of course that 'set' the pencil lines and a second coat (2) was added just for the depth. I quite like the stronger colour and haven't decided if I'll give it a light overspray of MRP or not.
I'm having teething problems with my new Cricut cutter so probably won't cut masks as previously intended. I'll use strip masking tape for the white details lines then spray PC10 and blue either side - thus I've brushed on some Humbrol, gloss white where the pin lines will be.
Sandy
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Great progress! Shaping up to be a stunning model ;D
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Good to see this one back progressing. It's looking good - I'm amazed you can get a good brush painted finish in this scale. I never could (which is why I gave in and bought an airbrush!).
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Thanks Chaps
A lot of headscratching and experimentation with masking tape, but eventually got something I can go forward with.
I found that a Revell enamel (52) gives me the best colour match for the spare Wingnuts roundels I intend to use. (Hope they don't break-up, but the rest of the sheet worked fine on a 5a build so fingers crossed.)
I've used MRP PC10 (late) on the fuselage. I love the ink-like quality of MRP paint, but I seem to have to spray coat after coat after coat to get decent coverage. I use almost a full bottle per kit - do others find this too or am I wasting paint somehow?
Quite a bit of work and touching up still to do, but feel it's back on track now.
Sandy
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Oh, my, this is looking pretty. She's going to be a stunner when all's said and done.
Dutch
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Thanks Chaps
A lot of headscratching and experimentation with masking tape, but eventually got something I can go forward with.
I found that a Revell enamel (52) gives me the best colour match for the spare Wingnuts roundels I intend to use. (Hope they don't break-up, but the rest of the sheet worked fine on a 5a build so fingers crossed.)
I've used MRP PC10 (late) on the fuselage. I love the ink-like quality of MRP paint, but I seem to have to spray coat after coat after coat to get decent coverage. I use almost a full bottle per kit - do others find this too or am I wasting paint somehow?
Quite a bit of work and touching up still to do, but feel it's back on track now.
Sandy
Fine results...
As for your question, I do not use MRP paints but there are problems with covering with another brands too. Yet, I have never heard about problems with a blue paint, it is yellow, white and red which are usually problematic.
I try to overcome these issues preparing a background in a colour which covers well and is "similar" in hue to the final one.
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Looks like you are getting there and I agree with Dutch, this will look stunning when done.
I love the ink-like quality of MRP paint, but I seem to have to spray coat after coat after coat to get decent coverage. I use almost a full bottle per kit - do others find this too or am I wasting paint somehow?
I don't use MRP but seem to get through a lot of paint when I am spraying (MIG and Vallejo), far more than I see people use in YouTube videos. I put it down to my poor airbrush technique........
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Used MRP on my Dolphin, PC-12 on topside and fuselage and Clear doped linen on the underside. About 25% of the bottle was used for both colors. Not sure if my colors had better coverage or opacity.
But I really great job on the model! Its looking stunning :)
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Thanks amici.
Starting to get the look of a proper SE5 now, but a lot still to do.
As usual with a conversion, you don't really appreciate all the myriad small details until you're in the thick of it. In this one for instance a real headache was how to deal with the characteristic fairings front and back of the rocker covers on the Hispano engine. I considered moulding them with the old Harry Woodman male/female technique: also searched all sorts of medicine blister packs to see if there were any curved corners that would provide a solution. Finally an old Heller 1/24 Talbot-Lago cannibalised in the spares box provided suitable engine covers that could be rounded and sanded into the correct shape. The fore parts lie painted by the nose, the second white cover (for the rears) awaits slicing up below them. Exhausts next. I also ordered up some kit-world 3D seatbelts to pop into the open cockpit.
I love the colours though, so on we go!
Sandy
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Oh, that's purty, as they say out West!
How did the stuffed shirts ever let them get away with decor like that? I suppose in an age when "Speckled Jim" and his feathered pals were the hot set-up in communication you might be able to get away with stuff like that for weeks before anyone in St Omer noticed.
Dutch
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Oh, that's purty, as they say out West!
How did the stuffed shirts ever let them get away with decor like that? I suppose in an age when "Speckled Jim" and his feathered pals were the hot set-up in communication you might be able to get away with stuff like that for weeks before anyone in St Omer noticed.
Dutch
Hi Dutch,
Exactly.
The squadron were equipped with Nieuport Scouts until the 11th of July 1917.
They were replaced by the new SE5.
The three fligts had their aircraft painted in Flight colours.
A Flight (red), B Flight (yellow) and C Flight (blue).
This only lasted a month as on the 26th of August, the SE5 had been replaced with the SE5a version.
In addition, the squadron marking of a solid white disc (fuselage and upper wing) had been introduced.
Those markings remained until 23rd of March 1918, when they were changed to two white bars around the fuselage, forward from the tail plane.
The Squadron flew the SE5a until disbanded on the 22nd July 1920.
Mike
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Great attention to detail there. This is progressing nicely!
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The squadron were equipped with Nieuport Scouts until the 11th of July 1917.
They were replaced by the new SE5.
The three fligts had their aircraft painted in Flight colours. (Already mentioned this BTW)
This only lasted a month as on the 26th of August, the SE5 had been replaced with the SE5a version.
That's not quite correct, Mike.
SE5s were never replaced, they were gradually upgraded to SE5a spec and some continued in service right through 1918.
As an example this one, A8936, was delivered to 60Sqdn on 20 July1917 and continued in action flown by Bishop, Horn, and Whiting until force-landed by Lt West-Thompson on 20Sept17. It was then sent to Aeroplane Repair Section Depot 2, hence to Repair Park 2 at the Supply Depot on 1Nov. After rebuilding it was sent to 68Sqdn on 15Dec17. 68Sqdn RAF became 2Sqdn AFC in January 1918 and this SE5 was subsequently wrecked on take-off by Lt Holden on 22Jan18 and sent to Repair Park 1. Now fitted with an SE5a 200hp engine, it was test flown on 13Mar18 by Lt Statham but hit a bump on take-off and turned on its nose. Finally struck off charge as irrepairable on 25Mar18.
So no mention of SE5s being replaced on 26th Aug17 please - that was merely the date the new solid white disc squadron markings were enforced. I see Les Rogers erroneously states that SE5s were replaced by this date (in his estimable RAF Sqdn Markings of WWI book), which is presumably where you've picked this up - but as you can see from the above, LR was missing the complete picture.
Sandy
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Engine fairings duly installed.
Funny how such a small detail becomes such a big problem, then is solved by a fairly simple solution.
Radiator shutters next.
Sandy
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Slowly but surely. Coming together very nicely.
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Well done on persevering with those small but essential details. Coming along very nicely.
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That's not quite correct, Mike.
SE5s were never replaced, they were gradually upgraded to SE5a spec and some continued in service right through 1918.
So no mention of SE5s being replaced on 26th Aug17 please - that was merely the date the new solid white disc squadron markings were enforced. I see Les Rogers erroneously states that SE5s were replaced by this date (in his estimable RAF Sqdn Markings of WWI book), which is presumably where you've picked this up - but as you can see from the above, LR was missing the complete picture.
Sandy
Hi Sandy,
If what you say is accurate then thanks - I stand corrected.
Indeed it was Les Rogers book I 'picked this up' from.
Where did you get your detailed information from?
Mike
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Hi Sandy,
If what you say is accurate then thanks - I stand corrected.
Indeed it was Les Rogers book I 'picked this up' from.
Where did you get your detailed information from?
Mike
Hi Mike
No problem. I recommend the Air-Britain series of "Files". These are available for many British aircraft. For WWI, they cover the SE5, Camel, Pup, DH4/9 and Martinsyde aircraft as well as generic titles on RNAS aircraft, etc.
These contain listings of every batch ordered by Air Ministry, from which supplier, and listing each individual serial with full history of that particular aircraft, its engine, pilots, combats, repairs, struck-off etc. The compilers Ray Sturtivant & Gordon Page have drawn together an incredible amount of detail from all available sources.
(Inevitably some info may be missing. I was recently charting the history, for the local newspaper, of a 1918 presentation SE5a supplied as "Crieff No 2", but could find no record of Crieff No 1 and assumed it must have been a different type. Then a friend on another forum sent me a list of presentation aircraft which included Crieff 1,2 & 3 all SE5as!).
The Files contain these full histories, detailed 1/48 plans, colour profiles and various Appendices. These are the Bibles for the types covered.
I'll scan a couple of pages when I get into the office/den.
PS Also a myriad of WW2 and other types - Lancaster, Hampden, J&K inter-war serials, Hunter, Javelin etc, etc, Search ebay for 'Air Britain File'.
HTH
Sandy
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Hi Sandy,
A great resource, but finding them is nigh on impossible,
Mike
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Great work Sandy,
I still find this an appealing aircraft, especially with this colour scheme.
Cheers,
Willem
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Thanks Willem.
Looking at my earlier attempt at the radiator shutters I decided they were too crude, especially once I added a black wash to spring out the detailwork. So, at least knowing the dimensions were good, I was able to fairly quickly fettle a replacement and colour it up.
So this is added to the front and some markings applied.
This view gives a better indication of the slimmer SE5 nose as compared to a 5a.
Sandy
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Great progress Sandy!
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Nice replacement!
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Good detail work Sandy, well worth doing. I am liking the leather effect on your coaming and headrest as well.
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Great progress! I really like the scheme and how the model is coming together :)
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Hi Sandy,
A great resource, but finding them is nigh on impossible,
Mike
I see a copy on the Advanced Book Exchange at 42GBP which seems about right
It's at Anita Books in Hereford if you're interested.
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?kn=air%20britain%20se5%20file&sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-topnav-_-Results
HTH
Sandy
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Thanks Sandy - ordered,
Mike
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It was all going so well...
Then I decided to apply the underwing roundels. These were spares from a WNW 'Hisso' which I'd chosen as they matched exactly the shade of blue I have always had in mind for the fancy fuselage paintwork. The other decals from this set had gone onto a WNW SE5a perfectly without any problems so I had no reason to believe anything would go amiss here. Unfortunately age may have had something to do with what happened (which is a bit worrying for the 50 or so WNW kits patiently waiting their turn in the stash!)
Anyway, on with a coat or two of Klear to give the decals a smooth surface to bond with, then slide them off and into place. They settled down nicely and I set aside to dry off. Unfortunately next day, there were large patches of air under both decals and I assumed the adhesive had lost its 'stick' so applied a copious amount of Klear over and under and again set aside.
Later I was concerned to see extreme wrinkling over both decals, but set aside to dry out completely in the hope that it would all settle down. It didn't and I decided next to apply some Microsol - wrinkling got worse. Oh sh*t! OK let it dry completely again and we'll try some Humbrol DecalFix, which I've found in the past usually zaps anything - but not these recalcitrant b*st*rds! Now I'm really panicking and contemplating stripping the whole thing back down, respraying and using masks to spray the roundels on ..... or, throwing the whole thing in the bin!
A day away from the model and... let's try one last option: hair dryer on gradually increasing temperatures. At first nothing, then as I began to worry the decal would shrivel up and melt, hallelujah, it started to settle (under increasing pressure and coaxing from my fingers). Port side OK, Starboard still very slightly creased but this is as good as I am going to get.
Step back for another day or two.
So you can see why no posts recently. You think you've experienced everything with decals, then out of a clear blue sky the modelling gods decide to have a bit of fun at your expense!
I need to give it some time then apply final varnish to make sure it won't all go pear shaped and wrinkle up again at the last stage. I don't think I'll risk W&N. I think Tamiya acrylics will be safer with their ultra fast drying time. If this is OK then we can proceed with construction and get on with mounting upper wing etc.
So frustrating as I'd spent careful time carving new pointy exhausts etc and I've kinda invested too much to bin it all now.
Anyway, here we are at the moment.
Sandy
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Phew! After all my issues with WNW decals recently, I have taken to using hot water (not warm) and a hair dryer for all decals now (well except Aviattic which are very well behaved). Glad you saved this, I know how bad I felt when I binned my Dolphin and you have invested more in this build than I had.
Onward and upward!!
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You had me going there for a minute, Sandy, I thought she was headed for the Shelf O’ Doom. Had to have a touch of bourbon to calm my nerves…
As a late-comer to the WnW party I’ve been a little surprised by the condition of the decals in the kits I’ve managed to scrounge, they don’t seem to have aged well in some of the half-dozen Eindecker kits I’ve picked up, the blacks especially seem to have gotten a peculiar “dusty” look in places. I’ve got Eduard decals from the late ‘90s that are in perfect condition… as well as some Monogram sets that are ten years older than that!
Dutch
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".... the 50 or so WNW kits patiently waiting their turn in the stash!...."
:o
I hope you have good locks, and bars on the windows ;)
Cheers
Willem
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".... the 50 or so WNW kits patiently waiting their turn in the stash!...."
I hope you have good locks, and bars on the windows ;)
Cheers
Willem
Cheers guys
Yes, I've put too much into this now to give up. Just waiting on a new jig attachment, to proceed.
Willem, you're right - the 'Wingnut Wall' is visible from outside through the window in the ground-floor modelling room, so I'm thinking of investing in a couple of Dobermanns in here overnight!
Sandy
PS The Roland just arrived. It was the (only) one that I thought I'd not bother with at the time of release as I already had a D.VIa. Of course once it went OOP, I wished I'd bought one and it became a bit of an obsession. Finally got one, but at four or five times what it would have cost back then!
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I've been following along but for some reason never posted before now(not that that's important) I looked at your pic from the 21st and clearly the decal wrinkled because you took your sneakers (trainers) off. All in all I think you've made a great save and am so glad the project continues.
Steve
PS read Scarrow's Dead of Night yet?
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Banged to rights, Steve. The trainers are for the treadmill in the corner - and, you're right, the decal problem arose immediately after placing them on the waste paper basket under the modelling desk!
Sandy
The Scarrow book is on order at the local library, just finishing off Rory Clements WW2 series ATM. (not great, but good yarns.) Also just read Martin Amis 'Zone of Interest' (new Holocaust movie), but found it terribly contrived. (I don't think Amis is half the writer his father was.)
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Willem, you're right - the 'Wingnut Wall' is visible from outside through the window in the ground-floor modelling room, so I'm thinking of investing in a couple of Dobermanns in here overnight!
I don't know how old you are Sandy, but it looks like you might be hoping your grandchildren will have an interest in building WWI aircraft in 1/32........ ;) ;D
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My heart sank when I started reading that update but I'm so relieved for you, Sandy! Goodness, what a rollercoaster.
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Good save on the decals! Its such a scary moment when that stuff goes wrong!
And an impressive stash! Will keep you going for a little while yet ;)
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Hey guys, sorry for the resounding silence recently - life getting in the way.
Progress on the SE has been in fits and starts and, of course, more setbacks - the troublesome under-wing roundels did not like the new biplane jig and decided to adhere to it, pulling of sections as I worked with it. Anyway, enough of the drama: the jig helped position top wing perfectly from the interplanes in towards the cabanes.
Rigging has started, using my drill-through-wing procedure with mono fishing line passing right through. This adds so much structural strength to the wing cellule and only requires fairly minimal clean-up afterwards. You'll see the marks to be touched up in the picture, which are then fully hidden after the final weathering stage.
Anyway, wings are on, as is undercarriage and not too much to do now.
I'll try to send more pics and completion soon.
Cheers
Sandy
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Glad to see you're back at it. Coming along nicely!
Steve
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She's looking great, and the story of this build, with all its ups and downs, is a tale worthy of Homer. Maybe you should retitle it "Sandy's Odyssey"...
Dutch
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Nice you are back! And nice to see the model in the colours.
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Good to see you back in the saddle on this one. It's so annoying when you get issues like the roundels lifting, but it looks like you are heading towards the finishing line on this one. Looking forward to seeing it done!
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What a trial concerning the decals, Sandy!
Never mind, your SE5 is coming together nicely now and will be a striking scheme when completed.
Regards
Dave
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Thanks, Guys
I'm determined to keep this moving forward, so most of the rigging is now on and touching up commenced.
I like the slimline SE5 nose (compared to 5a) and am happy with the way the carved exhausts etc have turned out.
Sandy
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Just the upper roundel to go on (fingers crossed, after the tribulations with the under wing ones!)
Then weathering, final rigging and varnish coats, as well as wheels, prop and Lewis.
It might actually see the light of day!
Sandy
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Gorgeous work Sandy. Looks awesome all rigged up!
RAGIII
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Definitely sporty looking!!
Steve
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Looking very good, fingers crossed for those final stages....
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Really looking forward to seeing this one cross the finish line... it's been a long haul!
Dutch
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Looking great! :)
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Cheers guys - thanks for the encouragement.
I've cleared and prepped the upper wing of its rigging stubs and I've sprayed the overall plane with a mix of matt and gloss Tamiya X22 to tone it down for final wear.
Time to apply upper roundels. This is the bit I'm slightly trepidatious about given the trauma with the lower ones! I've sprayed some gloss X22 on top wing and let it cure, then a coat of Future to fill any remaining blemishes. Now time to apply decals.
These are Wingnut Wings roundels left over from a 5a build, but did not react well underneath with Future or any of a range of settling agents I tried previously, so we'll try with just water and heat and see how we get on.
Either you'll see a be-roundelled model soon or maybe a pile of wreckage if things go wrong. (Hopefully not!)
Sandy
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Hopefully you will get the decals to behave. This is really an inspiring SE5!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick. You and I, with our long-view SE's are just a bit too early for the Dave Wilson build (I don't think I could do another SE quite so soon!) - but we'll be there in principle.
Hush, hush, whisper who dares...
Well the decals have gone on faultlessly so far: I'm scared to take anything for granted though. I'll let them settle down completely before I consider a varnish coat. But, oh my, I do love this colour scheme with all the blue setting of the roundels. Finger's crossed for next stage.
Sandy
PS the full playground doggerel is:
Hush, hush, whisper who dares,
Little boy at the top of the stairs.
Blood on his fingers
Fur on the mat
Christopher Robin's castrated the cat!
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That is indeed a Striking Scheme! I am glad to see that your decals seem to be behaving!
RAGIII
PS: Yes, this is a great tribute to David! He would have loved the results!
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Good job and, as stated, a striking scheme!
/Fredrik
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Thanks Rick & Fredrik
This post just to try out some hosting sites
S
https://imgpile.com/p/iT52mz3 (https://imgpile.com/p/iT52mz3)
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This is all coming together very nicely indeed, especially as the decal gods were kind to you. I think this will be worth the effort, very striking and a bit different.
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That is one Pretty SE5 Sandy!
RAGIII
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Looks great. How is imgpile?
Steve
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Thanks Nigel, Rick & Steve
Steve
Having got a new phone, with a better camera (so hopefully better pictures), I thought I'd try a hosting site and looked at a list of the top half dozen free ones, with imgpile being recommended so I thought I'd give it a try. Within five minutes I'd uploaded an SE picture and inserted it in this thread - so it seems dead easy.
However I need to figure out where exactly my pics are being stored as some seem difficult to find - probably just early days. I also tried the 5&5a pics again just as a test and then I sent them over to Britmodeller as well to see if they'd work on their direct-post set-up, so it all seems pretty good so far - but time will tell! (In my enthusiasm I didn't dust the WNW 5a and I see now it looks as if the rigging spider is still living in it!)
HTH
Sandy
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Well I think we'll call it done for now.
I've still got the superb Model Cellar Billy Bishop figure to add, but I'll post him in the completed section once he's done. (Hmmm, also got a spare CSM RFC Nie17....)
Meanwhile here's a Roden 5a chopped to the earlier config of SE5 A8936 of 60 Squadron RFC before the powers-that-be made them remove the glorious blue yellow and red Flight colours.
Nice Roden kit, just needs a shallower engine sump and decent fuselage strut mountings.
Sandy
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/vKxLT3s_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/rjyuOTk_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/bAoZJBn_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/HWwcCpR_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/i2xWkKo_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/LRHpll9_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/qDzrihf_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/SupBwl3_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/FhLKhqS_xl.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/kxvPk34_xl.jpg)
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What a beauty! I was following the whole build and the result is just superb.
Congratulations!
Ondra
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Outstanding finish! Your SE makes Me tempted to get another 8)
RAGIII
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Oh that looks lovely!
Regards
Dave
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Very appealing result! Well done!
Fredrik
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That has come out really well, the scheme is really striking and the finished model looks really impressive (and quite unique). Well done, it was worth all the effort!
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I still think this build log should have been written in Geeek dactylic hexameter like the Illiad 'cause it's been a true epic. I don't know that I'd have preservered in the face of such difficulties, but you did and the result is amazing. Congrats on a great model.
Dutch
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Great looking model. Se5 always has a nice sit.
Steve
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Thank you for all your kind comments, guys.
Now I'd better get on with fulfilling the title part of this build - with Model Cellar's beautiful Billy Bishop figure.
It's a superb resin rendition and I'm not much of a figure painter, but here goes
(It may take some time!)
Sandy
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/Y3W8z8X_md.jpg)
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/bTeKR76_md.jpg)
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Very nice!
Warren
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Looking forward to that figure!
RAGIII