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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: djuggie on November 07, 2023, 02:01:07 AM
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November 2, 2023
I know I am late to the party for WNW kits so I will not go into a detailed explanation of the build. It is for a customer who is having me build larger and larger scales as his eyesight is not good. I will build it as a quick-build and hope to have it built by mid-November. The kit will be 100% out of the box.
His model of choice is Raymond Collishaw's Black Maria. There are two others on the shelf and I not sure how many he has to follow those.
As the three photos show, I build in somewhat of shotgun approach. It keeps me interested and it makes it look like I've made more progress than I have. 1/32nd is not my scale of choice although the completed kits look great. My main thing is a lack of shelf space.
Thank you for looking.
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November 8, 2023
The interior is now completed. I will not be adding any internal rigging or control wires as my customer is mainly interested in the completed model. Just enough detail to make the model look good. This section is falling together and is typical of WNW models quality.
The warning of being careful with the cabanes has been taken but I do love the one piece construction that makes the future wing alignment very easy. I will close it up tomorrow at my modelling workshop and I hope to have the fuselage closed up and painted by the weekend.
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November 11, 2023
The model is now closed up and painting is underway. A little persuasion was necessary with the cockpit opening but it went well. It stopped resisting my charms when it realized I was not going to let it thwart my evil plan of finishing by the middle of the month. I may be a few days off but it will be close. I do have to say this one of the easiest of the WNW kits I have built. Please note that the cabanes have stayed in their designated location. We will see what awaits me when the top wing goes on.
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November 15, 2023
This next series of photo show the masking for painting, undercarriage attachment and tail surfaces. I like to get my models on their wheels as soon as possible. The rigging is Heavy E Z thread. When everything has dried, I will attach the top wing.
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Nice start on the Camel. I like the scheme you are doing.
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Looking good so far and I'm impressed by the mid November deadline to finish (It can take me a week to add decals ;))
Paul
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I have one on the shelf to do, so interested to see how you get on with this. Some builders have had issues with the top wing (cabane struts too high forcing a bit of a bow in the wing), so you may want to watch out for that.
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Thanks for the heads up on the cabanes. I will be on the look out for it.
The seatbelts are in and I do not like them. The metal etch just does not look good. I may make my own from here on out. Suggestions?
Dennis
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I consider myself lucky to have recently picked up the Le Rhône Camel for only about 20% over original price at an IPMS show, so I'll be following this with a great deal of interest. And good to know about the potential cabane issue, thanks from me as well, Nigel!
Dutch
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Thanks for the heads up on the cabanes. I will be on the look out for it.
The seatbelts are in and I do not like them. The metal etch just does not look good. I may make my own from here on out. Suggestions?
I'm not certain exactly what the cabane issue is as I haven't built mine yet, but several people I know had trouble and ended up with the top wing slightly bowed down on the outer struts. But others have had no problems, so definitely do some testing before you commit to gluing the top wing in place.
It's probably too late regarding the seatbelts but annealing them and them folding them to shape before painting works well. Personally I am not a fan of the paper ones that seem popular these days. Lead foil works best for me, you can use a photoetch buckle set and get very realistic results.
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Nigel,
Thank you for the suggestions. My skills in working with metal seat beats are lacking. They just don't look right. I finally went to my old standby for many things, masking tape. Duplicated it, painted it, and stuck it in. I will have the results up in a day or two.
Dennis
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Thanks for the heads up on the cabanes. I will be on the look out for it.
The seatbelts are in and I do not like them. The metal etch just does not look good. I may make my own from here on out. Suggestions?
Dennis
Also watch out you don't break any of the cabane struts. Others, including me, have.
As they are molded as part of the fuselage halves and a quite long, they are easily broken off when handling the model prior to the upper wing being fitted,
Mike
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A new photo has been added
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Careful of those cabane struts....... ;)
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Three more photos of the Camel are now up.
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Coming along great, Dennis, although she does look a mite odd at the moment with those cabanes sticking up like antennas. It reminds me of an old 1960s-vintage kit I built as a kid... a Monogram 1/72 Curtiss Hawk, maybe? that was engineered the same way.
And if you say you're going to hit your mid-month deadline, I'll believe you. If anyone can do it you can :)
Dutch
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i loved those Monogram kits because of the attached cabanes. No alignment problems. I am hoping the Camel will be the same. I hope to finish the painting, undercarriage and decals today. Then, the cabanes. Beware the Ides of Cabanes! Oh, that was bad.
Dennis
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Beware the Ides of Cabanes! Oh, that was bad.
;D ;D
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Good progress Dennis and getting closer to the cabane showdown.... I spoke with a GWSIG member at Scale ModelWorld who is building this kit and he had trouble with the cabanes. He had to cut the tops off them, and he was glad he was forewarned (by me ;)).
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I did a dry fit on the cabanes and came to the same conclusion that they may have to be shortened a little. That I have found to be a common problem with the WNW kits. Very easy fix, especially when you have been forewarned.
Life got in the way and the progress on the kit has slowed. Still could be finished by this weekend. I will have some progress shots up in the morning. Tech support is not feeling well, and, oh yea, 43rd anniversary took priority.
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Three more photos
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Where are the photos? All I can see if your post advising they exist. I'm keen to see them!
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Zac,
I have no idea why you cannot see them. I must be doing something wrong. I thought everyone could see them as I posted them. Some advise from someone, please.
Dennis
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Where are the photos? All I can see if your post advising they exist. I'm keen to see them!
Dennis adds them to his original post rather than putting them in line. So you need to go back to page 1.
Dennis, it's traditional to add the new photos each time you post rather than editing your first post. This does make it easier for the reader of your thread to keep up (otherwise they have to keep going back to your first post). But you do what you want!
She is looking good btw, a nice clean build that looks very sharp.
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Nigel,
Thank you but I do not understand what you mean. I thought I was to add them to the original post. I want to add photos in the most acceptable way possible. Please let me know how to do that. Thank you so much.
The rigging is under way and the top wing went on without a hitch. Through the advise of the group, I was prepared for the cabanes. Final photos in a few days.
Dennis
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Dennis, most people just add new photos to the each new post in the "Under Construction" thread rather than going back to the original post and adding the photos there. So when you posted "Three new photos" you could add the new photos there rather than going back to your first post and adding them there. But it's entirely up to you.
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Thank you Nigel, Tech support says the next photos will follow the process you laid out. Thank you so much.
The Camel is in the final stages of rigging. Next day or so.
Dennis
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Looks great, Dennis, and glad the photo posting process got worked out. It makes for some pretty lengthy threads (my Amodel Nieuport thread has about 1,722 pages now, and I've just started the exterior!) but it work well. And I find the new photo/comments sequence keeps things current, and provides a lot of encouragement.
Keep it rolling, and congratulations to you and the long-suffering Tech Support on your 43rd!
Dutch
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November 19, 2023
The kit has reached the stage where I say it is complete. What I must say, is this was the easiest of the WNW kits I have built. Only minor fit problems and any problems with the cabanes was headed off by the excellent cautions by the group. I made sure that all locating holes were cleaned and slightly enlarged. I snipped about 1/16" from the top of each struct to eliminate any depth problem. The results was an almost perfect fit.
The rigging is EZ line heavy and I use my method of drilling locating holes to run the rigging in as few pieces as possible. I do not double the flying lines.
I am pleased with the results and as mentioned earlier, this was my easiest WNW kit. My scale of choice is 1/72nd but it is fun to build kits that I have no room for. This gives me the best of both worlds. I build kits I would never buy for myself but I get the pleasure of building these excellent kits.
Dennis
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Gorgeous, Dennis! The guy you build for must have a bigger collection of your work than you do by now, and I know yours is pretty big :)
And thanks to you and everyone else for the tip on the cabanes. I put a sticky in the box to remind me when I get around to starting my kit.
Dutch
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Dutch,
Thank you. As far as his collection as big as mine, almost. I have about 250 models in my collection, he has 21. HOWEVER, the space his collection must take is probably as close to space my collection takes. 44 years ago I set out to make a large collection and that goal has been accomplished. (I will send a photo soon.) I think is one of my reasons for building for others. I have the pleasure of building and only have to find a space for little green pieces of paper that fit snugly in my wallet. Sigh. Everyone has the burdens of life he must bear. :-)
Dennis
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That's a very nice clean build. I'm glad the advice on the cabanes helped and you identified what the problem can be, so hopefully I'll be well prepared for my build.
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Where are the photos? All I can see if your post advising they exist. I'm keen to see them!
Dennis adds them to his original post rather than putting them in line. So you need to go back to page 1.
Thank you Nigel, I thought I was missing something.
Lovely work Dennis!
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Very nicely done. Makes me want to build this scheme in 1/72.
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Very good work Dennis.
This is a very crisp and clean build.
Willem
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That's lovely work on your Collishaw Camel, Dennis -
No need to worry about the double wires as it looks the part anyway.
Regards
Dave
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Well done :)