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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Butch Baker on October 27, 2023, 07:31:01 AM
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Hello everyone,
Newbie to the forum looking for some help. I'm starting a 1/8TH scale HASEGAWA DR.I kit, which will be a slow build, but have been looking forward to building this kit for a while.
The assembly starts with the engine, and I've ran into a research issue I was hoping someone on the forum could help with. After spending time researching the engine, the Oberursel UR-2 rotary engine, rated at 110hp, built by the Oberursel Motoren Gesellschaft of Frankfurt, Germany. As we know, the motor was an exact copy of the famous French LeRhone 110-hp rotary engine. The issue is the rocker arm pushrod bracket on the rear of the engine casing. This appears to be some kind of support guide for the pushrod and the kit has it molded into the case. After looking at photos of the LeRhone 110-hp rotary engine and the Oberursel UR-2 rotary engine from various books and websites, I can’t find one that shows these brackets. Does anyone know if there were any significates to the brackets, and if they were indeed on the Oberursel UR-2 and not on the LeRhone? I'm working on the cylinders at this time and will need to decide on removing these or leaving them. My research tells me to remove them. I have not found one image of the Oberursel or LeRhone 110 with these brackets except for the LeRhone 80hp shown below, and these were located on the front of the case, not the rear. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Here is a picture of the manual showing the part I’m talking about:
(http://i.imgur.com/GNSfIGV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/GNSfIGV)
The only photo I could locate with the brackets was this one of a LeRhone 80hp, but the brackets are located on the front of the case, not the rear.
(http://i.imgur.com/I4IFHOY.png) (https://imgur.com/I4IFHOY)
I found the original manual for the LeRhone 110, and the manual does not show the brackets installed:
(http://i.imgur.com/4RdtXgQ.png) (https://imgur.com/4RdtXgQ)
Here is a picture of the Red Barons Oberursel UR-2 engine, and once again, no brackets:
(http://i.imgur.com/4CpcCBg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4CpcCBg)
This LeRhone is at the NASM:
(http://i.imgur.com/yj512P9.png) (https://imgur.com/yj512P9)
Thanks!
Butch
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Well, with this kind of attention to detail you're going to fit right in around here, Butch.
I'm sure there's more knowledgable folks than me on the forum that can give you a definitive answer, but when The Vintage Aviator, Ltd built their painstaking copy of the UR-2 (based on a borrowed original, which they disassembled and made CAD models of practically every nut and bolt on) those brackets weren't on it. They did an awesome exploded poster, which you can see here:
http://www.thevintageaviator.co.nz/projects/oberursel-engine/oberursel-ur-ii-rotary-engine-build-history
I'm not sure where that Le Rhône is in your first picture, but like you noted it's an 80hp 9C, and there's a very similar one in the California Aerospace Museum with the same brackets... but they're not on most of the other 80 LRs I've seen, and not on any of the 110hp 9Js that I've run across (basically the same motor, bored out 7mm and flipped around so the intake pipes and pushrods were facing the firewall). I wonder if the Hasegawa folks just used photos of one of those 9Cs to base their kit part on...?
And given that they're on the back of the motor anyway—and pending input from people who may be privy to more & better information—my vote would just be to grind the suckers off :)
Dutch
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Dutch,
I was looking at that website last week, great stuff!
Yep, think that's what I'm going to do unless I hear something that proves otherwise.
Thanks Dutch!
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The LeRhone 9C (80 hp) has the pushrods in the front of the crankcase and the 9J (110 hp) has them in the back. You have photographic evidence that the 9J did not have the brackets, so I would go with that, since the Uberursel appears to copy the 9J.
Just my 2 cents.
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I should've figured you'd have scoured out that ref, Butch! Here's something else I turned up last night, a period drawing of the rear of the Oberursel, via one of the links in the "Engines" section of the forum (Berman's "Website Reference Source..."). Wish the resolution was better, but again, I'm not seing those brackets...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0kNm2b5/1342-A0-C9-E32-D-45-B3-A602-8-C85-AE6-D7086.jpg)
Dutch
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Dutch, Kensar,
Thank both you for your help and imput on this little issue. I agree, there is plenty of support that indicates no brackets were installed. Now on to some fun creating the pushrod setup. All post some pictures once I get to that point.
Thanks again!
Butch
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Hey Butch, I sent you a PM RE: references, depending on how your account is configured you might not see it except as a small "(1)" on the menu bar after "My Messages" at the top of the Forum page.
And great blog, too, BTW, I checked it out last night :)
Dutch
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Dutch
Just responded to you PM. Thank you for letting know as I did not notice it. Glad you liked the blog!
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For a look at a magnificent build of the 1/8 Dr.1, go here:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMtmwJ2aoJrcaorDQimJgwNn4shMvFZRHo0wrhE-saNTEW7aT4lmorapHDVTKbe5Q?key=eTVGZ0lnS3pVdTdCLWdsMlFlNzByV01VUEJPR3dB
I hope the link works
Firechief
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The link worked perfectly, and thank you.
This was the build that I found that inspired me to get going on my kit. The model is outstanding, magnificent build. Hope mine will eventually turn as nice, the builder is very skilled.
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I'm excited to follow along Butch. If they made a D.VII or other type I was keen on in this scale I'd be all over it but the Dr.I just doesn't appeal enough for me to make the investment, so I'm glad I get to live vicariously through builds like yours and the one Firechief linked to (wow!).
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Great link, I don't know if you folks are familiar with Bob Steinbrunn's work, but he is truly a master craftsman... I used to love his articles in Fine Scale Modeler back in the 80s and 90s, when he was building 1:48 WWII aircraft. He drifted off into sailing ships for a while and I lost track of him, except for occasional articles in Ships In Scale, but he appears to have gotten back into aeroplanes in a big (literally!) way...
I still use an improvised tool he invented that I call my "Steinbrunn Saw", a #11 blade notched with a cutoff wheel in a Dremel that makes a dandy mini-razor saw:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMQMzZGx/343-A226-B-4-F6-C-41-A0-871-B-192-B0-DE0-FCC3.jpg)
He's probably retired now, but he used to be a corporate rotary-wing pilot flying big Sikorskys IIRC.
Dutch
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KiwiZac,
Thanks for following the build, hope to post some updates in the next week or so. Have not had much time to work on motor but progress is moving forward ;D
I did update my blog with some things I'm working on if your interested.
A Fokker DVII would be awesome, lots of detail can be added at this scale.
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I decided to add what I put on the blog here as well.
Here is a picture of the part prior to modification with the brackets.
(http://i.imgur.com/iq9B852.jpg) (https://imgur.com/iq9B852)
The rear engine case with the brackets removed and the exhaust attachment points sanded down a little, they were a little thick.
(http://i.imgur.com/ozUWD2l.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ozUWD2l)
Another modification I'm working on is the milled out area next to the cylinders. These are a pretty dominate feature on the engine and they really need to be there.
(http://i.imgur.com/RO7I0P3.jpg) (https://imgur.com/RO7I0P3)
As you can see here, they are not molded into the casing. Not sure how all fix this issue yet, but I really feel it needs the added detail.
(http://i.imgur.com/X56YhBN.jpg) (https://imgur.com/X56YhBN)
The other item I will replace is the brass pushrods supplied with the kit. They look to thick and the plastic fittings on each end are not scale at all, they just added them for a means to attach the brass pushrods to the casing.
(http://i.imgur.com/femRf8w.jpg) (https://imgur.com/femRf8w)
I've decided on 1/16" steel wire polished to a shine to replace the brass ones. These look more correct for the scale. I'm going to drill a small hole into the rocker arm and slide the steel rod through down to the case. These will be installed after painting so they appear more realistic to the eye.
(http://i.imgur.com/DP8oaHV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DP8oaHV)
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Wow! Seeing that cylinder in your hand really puts its large size into perspective. This is going to be a monster of a build. Looking forward to more!
Tim
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I agree with Tim, that cylinder looks to be not much smaller than the fuselage of a 1:72 Dr.I. And great move deciding to duplicate the blog posts!
Dutch
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And great move deciding to duplicate the blog posts!
Hear hear. Thank you for doing so!
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November 5, 2023
Things are progressing on the engine. I noticed the other night that I had forgotten to add the valve stem push rod. After some figuring I did manage to get them into each cylinder.
(http://i.imgur.com/SkxcYsK.jpg) (https://imgur.com/SkxcYsK)
I used Milliput to add the milled out area's on the case detail. This was a tidiest little task indeed, should pretty convincing once painted. Once I finished the back of the engine, I took a break and started working on how to make the push rod inlets.
(http://i.imgur.com/wO0zmIt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/wO0zmIt)
Made a jig and cut 9 inlets our of plastic tubing.
(http://i.imgur.com/7Ypzblm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7Ypzblm)
Once these were glued into place, I temporally installed the unit to the main case to see how the push rods etc. lined up to the cylinder's.
The push rods enter the lower case at angle as the rod ends up in the center of the case, this did not look right, so back to my resources.
(http://i.imgur.com/iE9PPqm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/iE9PPqm)
If you look close you can see that the inlets are not dead center of cylinders and the exhaust ports are off center of the milled out case locations as well. This is what's causing the the push rod to enter the case at an angle.
(http://i.imgur.com/hHkb4nO.jpg) (https://imgur.com/hHkb4nO)
I removed the positioning pin on the part so I could rotate it. With the case that contains the pushrod inlets rotated a few degrees to the left, everything lined up perfectly.
(http://i.imgur.com/eta4CT5.jpg) (https://imgur.com/eta4CT5)
Just a few items that need to get tweaked and then all start laying some paint and bring this stage of the project to completion.
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Sharp work, Butch!
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I’m really enjoying this thread, it's the modeling equivalent of a Cecil B. DeMille epic! Love seeing your process & decision-making as you go along.
Dutch
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Wow, there is some amazing attention to detail here. Very impressive......
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Been sometime since I posted anything, been sick with the dreaded RSV all of November. I did manage to keep moving forward on the model at a pretty slow pace. I left off at getting some items buttoned up so I could start painting. I use Tamiya paints for most of my painting needs. I will use some Alcad II paints overtop of the Tamiya to try and get the look I’m shooting for. I would like the motor to look somewhat combat weary but not filthy dirty in appearance. This will require layering of aluminum paints of various shades. To get the final look I will utilize pastel chalk and then seal coat the entire motor with a semi-gloss once I’m happy with it. I did get the engine painted to its final look on 12/2, so now I’m just finishing up adding the pushrods and spark plug wires as seen in the pictures below. Next up will be the Spandau machine guns, looking forward to working on a different aspect of the model!
(https://i.imgur.com/ZI1EALnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1Ih73Lyl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ygLtX0l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZHNs9TMl.jpg)
Have added two of the pushrods so far, hope to finish the engine model this weekend so I can start the Spandau's.
(https://i.imgur.com/KrIwm5jl.jpg)
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Looking good. I'm glad to see a build log here.
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Glad to hear you won your match with RSV, Butch, I hear it's got a mean left hook.
That motor could pass for 1:1 quite easily, which of course is what we all strive for, but seldom achieve (speaking strictly for myself, of course, it seems to be a common occurrance on this forum)... looking forward to seeing what you accomplish with the LMG 08s!
Dutch
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That engine is a masterpiece! Will be fun to follow along :)
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Thanks AngryJazz for the complement, very much appreciated!
December 9, 2023
I finished up the Oberursel UR-2 rotary engine for the Triplane today. Feels good to have this build task completed; now I can move on to the Spandau’s guns. The pushrods went into place perfectly and look pretty convincing, with that done I started to install the plug wires. I’m using ASK 0.3 lead wire for the plug wires, took me three tries to get the wires to look right. Once that was complete, I applied a coat of Tamiya Semi-Gloss clear to the motor and will set it aside as it awaits installation into the Fokker Dr.1.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZmazDyDl.jpg)
Ready to install the plug wires with all the pushrods installed.
(https://i.imgur.com/EAso6icl.jpg)
First plug wire in place, think these should look pretty convincing.
(https://i.imgur.com/2GO1hnxl.jpg)
Semi-Clear sprayed on the motor and this phase is done!
(https://i.imgur.com/x1YlT8Rl.jpg)
Fokker Dr.I (Part 3) Carburetor, Machine Gun Assembly
Getting the parts ready for the machine gun construction. The carburetor was completed at the same time I did the Oberursel UR-2 rotary engine. Need to spend sometime looking over my books, photos and other resource material on Spandau machine guns to see how much detail I will add to them. The bullets look to be begging for some improvement, not sure how to tackle this yet, but this good be a fun improvement.
(https://i.imgur.com/ew4eOEhl.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/wTLL1Dyl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tfEHG0Bl.jpg)
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Finally spend sometime on the machine guns, haven't worked on the model in a couple of months except a little here and there. Starting to get interested once again to make some progress. The first image shows the original construction of the machine gun handles setup, this appears not be correct. If you look at the second picture, this shows actual machine gun at a museum. The large handle was an invention the mechanics came up with to help the pilots clear gun jams and they apparently were all a little different in design. Since I have an actual picture of one, this is what all try and mimic on the model. I also spent sometime improving the gun site to look more authentic then a molded piece of plastic.
(https://i.imgur.com/RBCOmvYl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZVrCCO9l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qBZoKyll.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RNme8Fkl.jpg)
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Lovely attention to detail, Butch!
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Wow! Nothing more to say.
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Finally spend sometime on the machine guns, haven't worked on the model in a couple of months except a little here and there. Starting to get interested once again to make some progress. The first image shows the original construction of the machine gun handles setup, this appears not be correct. If you look at the second picture, this shows actual machine gun at a museum. The large handle was an invention the mechanics came up with to help the pilots clear gun jams and they apparently were all a little different in design. Since I have an actual picture of one, this is what all try and mimic on the model. I also spent sometime improving the gun site to look more authentic then a molded piece of plastic.
I hate to carry bad news, but the machine gun was correct as designed by Hasegawa. Early Spandaus (as used in the Dr.I) did not have the cocking handle present on later models (as in the D.VII) - I hope you can correct this without too much problems.
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Coming a bit late to this one but lovely work all round.
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Me too on the late comment. Your commitment to detail and accuracy is remarkable and commendable, what a great project and the results are looking spectacular already! I'll be following your progress with great interest.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks for compliments and now worries coming to the build late :-) As slow as I am your still early :D
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I finished all the detail on one of the machine guns tonight, now onto the second machine gun. Once these are done I will paint and weather them, then its onto the fuselage
(https://i.imgur.com/m8cVl4Vl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bsXQEDpl.jpg)
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As slow as I am your still early :D
Great to see another slow builder on here, makes me feel better about how slow I am :) Looking forward to see how this develops.....
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if anyone might be interested: i have one for sale
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if anyone might be interested: i have one for sale
Feel free to post a listing for your kit on our Buy - Sell - Swap - Trade board (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?board=21.0)!
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Finally finished up the machine guns for the Fokker Dr.1.
I wanted to add the writing that's located on the top of the machine guns and along the left side with decals, I used photoshop to create them.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the results, and now I can move on to the fuselage which I have started the basic assembly and have started to add little missing details.
(https://i.imgur.com/VRjh1hpl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3mz7CfAl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6VfTph3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lRa1m99.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FFgQVJn.jpg)
Fuselage:
Adding the bolt flange and bolts for the read handles
(https://i.imgur.com/9Zzr9eDl.jpg)
In this picture I added a brass tube to the bottom of the step as this was a hollow tube, not a solid piece.
Drilled out the pilots seat metal frame as well to represent hollow tubes, juts to give it that little more authentic look.
(https://i.imgur.com/mh1KeQrl.jpg)
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Lovely work - t hose decals on the MGs were really worth the effort, especially in that scale.
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It is a bit tempting this level of detail and it looks lovely!
/F
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That extra work is really paying off! This is shaping up to be a real showstopper.
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Wow!
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After reviewing the cockpit area, I noticed some things I would like to add for detail.
First thing is to make the cockpit floor bracket more realistic. I removed the plastic molded ones as they were out of position and just didn't look right at all. The rear missing tubing that supports the wood floor I made out of brass tubing with soldiered uprights. I added little guide pins to help locate it in the correct position and to provide strength after it us glued into place.
(https://i.imgur.com/DYIu4eP.png)
Creating the floor support unit our of brass tubing
(https://i.imgur.com/oSZQRJ4.jpeg?1)
I made the vertical post a little longer and will just trim them to the correct height. All cleaned up and ready for the install process.
(https://i.imgur.com/D9m6Q1C.jpeg?1)
I install micro bolts to the floor board that are more in the correct scale, the ones with the kit are way to large.
(https://i.imgur.com/L0LDufQ.jpg)
Test fitting the floor boards after the rear tubing unit has been installed.
(https://i.imgur.com/SxAZPbT.jpg)
Next, I wanted to add the wing nuts that were attached to the pilot seat bracket so they could quickly adjust the seat to fit them. I purchased some micro brass wing nuts at (4.0mm) and made the brackets out of brass tubing.
(https://i.imgur.com/KUhELfT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CBmOC04.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VAB9OKn.jpg)
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I had to pay careful attention here, Butch, since I started getting confused as to which photos were Achim's 1:1 Triplane, and which were your model. Which of course is a testament to your modeling skills... :D
Dutch
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Superb work all round!!
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@Butch Baker
Beautiful!!
I love this dedication to detail.
I don't think I would do it any other way.
One little thing I noticed on the through-loading mechanism of your superbly detailed MG's:
These flat, curved "pans or cooking pot levers" were fitted to later series MG's.
Unfortunately, I don't know by heart when the change from the earlier round knob-shaped handle to the long levers was made, but I am firmly convinced that the Fokker Dr.1 series were not yet equipped with these long levers.
(https://up.picr.de/47474380gg.jpg)
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Servus
Bertl
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Umlaufmotor,
Those are some really great pictures of the Spandau! I'm going to save those images in my reference folder for future projects.
I modeled the machine guns from photos of a Spandau from 1917-18 build unit. I choose this gun setup as it fits the time period of my build.
Researching the Spandau's I did discover many different versions and field modification done by pilots to make clearing jammed cartridges easier and faster.
What is the book you are showing the beautiful drawings called, I have never personally seen these rendition before.
Thank you for sharing this great information!!!!
I have more photos of the build on my blog site if your interested.
https://thescalemodelhanger.blogspot.com/
(https://i.imgur.com/m8cVl4Vl.jpg)
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Hello Butch,
these drawings are included in the original service manual
"Das Maschinengewehr 08/15".
I have an original of the 2nd edition from 1918.
This service regulation describes the MG 08/15 of the army (Heer in german).
The difference between the army MG and the MG of the air force (Fliegertruppe in German) is the type of cooling.
The army MG was cooled with water in summer, and then with water and glycerine in winter.
The MG for the airborne troops was only cooled with air.
Hence the perforated jacket around the MG barrel.
Water cooling would have been too heavy.
The butt stock is of course also missing, on the machine gun for the airmen.
Servus
Bertl
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April 29, 2024
The ammo box supplied with the kit will need to be corrected, the one supplied is way to small and there should be two ammo boxes not just one. The one closest to the pilot is the ammo feed box and the one in front is for the empty fired cartridges'. After studying photographs and drawings I started to create the first ammo box out of .04 styrene plastic.
(https://i.imgur.com/Yeo47Dnl.jpg)
Basic Ammo Feed Box construction.
(https://i.imgur.com/xYcTrEll.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1sjrVfal.jpg)
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Doing some test fitting of the ammo box with the machine guns temporary taped into place. The Ammo feed units that come with the kit are not correct either, another item I will need to create from scratch.
(https://i.imgur.com/9D8A8Ehl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X26EUgNl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ajSzQdFl.jpg)
May 03, 2024
After pondering on how to create the ammo feeds, I decided to laminate several layers together to achieve the proper width needed and then just drew the basic shape and started to whittle away.
(https://i.imgur.com/s5hCmz7l.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/yaj3xLKl.jpg)
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Test fitting the first ammo feed unit to make sure its the right size and all the angles are correct.
(https://i.imgur.com/8OlXHNQl.jpg)
Sketching the location where the bullets will sit. I ordered some 1/8th scale bullets to use as a reference to make sure things looked in scale. I will attempt to make bullets out of brass for a more realistic looking belt feed.
(https://i.imgur.com/ccO7mQql.jpg)
Getting closer after about 6 hours of chipping away everything that does look like the ammo feeder. Still need to add the rivets and final sand before starting the next ammo feed unit.
(https://i.imgur.com/5ZbI6pIl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HMY2ZNBl.jpg)
Once I get the ammo boxes and ammo feeders done then I can get the fuselage frame work primed and ready for paint.
I've been looking for some cloth material to wrap the frame work with that will be the right thickness and color, any ideas would be much appreciated if you know of anything that would work.
(https://i.imgur.com/V5eIaqa.jpg)
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Really enjoying following along with this, Butch, you're doing beautiful work. And it's especially intresting now that I'm deep into the my E.V, which shared so many construction details with the Dr.I.
Dutch
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Incredible work. Slow, but worth waiting for!
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I think that if you tried to work quickly on this yoou would end up with a complete mess. The evry fine details that you are adding can only be made slwly and with a lot of patience. Excellent improvements.
Stephen.
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Incredible work. Slow, but worth waiting for!
I absolutely agree with Ian! Your detail corrections are Incredible and worth the wait !
RAGIII
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Thanks everyone for the encouragement on this build. It's definitely been a real challenge, but I'm enjoying every minute of it.
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Been a long time since I have posted any progress pictures. I finally have finished the ammo boxes, ammo chutes, fuel tank improvement, and the tail feathers.
The parts are ready to prime and paint which I hope to get done next week. All move into installing the cockpit details, fuselage wiring etc., and then onto the wings!
I'm hoping the wings will not require to much improvements but I'm notice some issue that will need to be corrected.
Ammo Boxes almost ready for paint
(https://i.imgur.com/lKay8Vkl.jpg)
Creating the ammo chutes with milliput
(https://i.imgur.com/miVkV5sl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jwG6Vn5l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lzBd7vUl.jpg)
Fuel tank with the inlets
(https://i.imgur.com/4rreRVol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tRSbuVTl.jpg)
Tail feathers - These were very accurate, no modifications needed
(https://i.imgur.com/ah8Ur3Hl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6z5FPJdl.jpg)
New gun sights out of brass, just though the first set were a little to big.
(https://i.imgur.com/MFCaYYml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xqhJqqIl.jpg)
My first attempt at making brass bullets for the machine guns
(https://i.imgur.com/pWvcn4jl.jpg)
All add some more pics once I get the paint and detail done on these parts. I warn ya, very slow build :-)
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Superb work, there's no hiding place in this scale!
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Wow, it's all so... huge! :D
Be careful with the ammunition. It looks sharp!
/Fredrik
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Outstanding work and detailing!
RAGIII
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I'm hoping the wings will not require to much improvements but I'm notice some issue that will need to be corrected.
There is an important modification you'll need to do about the wings: replacing the wooden trailing edge for a steel wire (well, steel-painted cooper, brass or whatever you want). Probably that will require adding a small piece of wood to each rib, and then adding the clips that hold the wire. If you see Achim Engels' builds, all the details are there.
Plus, there's a thread at The Aerodrome forum by Gary Sewall in which he kindly shares his collection of Dr.I drawings. Probably the most accurate set of plans available now.
https://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76709 (https://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76709)
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Beto
Thank you for the link to the information, downloaded and printed for reference material.
Gary Sewall has done a magnificent job documenting the DR1.
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Beto,
After studying the kit drawings and looking over my reference material, including Sewall's drawings of the upper wing.
There will be some work to get the wings up to scale. Once I finish the fuselage interior including installing all the cabling, then all start the wings.
(https://i.imgur.com/2XSoCKJh.jpg)
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Glad you found Mr. Sewall's drawings useful. Please note that the scalloped effect of the wing trailing edges is the result of the varnished linen covering when shrinking. The wire trailing edge was laid straight, so there should be no scalloping if it's left uncovered.
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Correct, it was the tightening of the covering that created that cool look on German aircraft.
Thanks again!
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I greatly admire anyone able to tackle these kits, and am so grateful for you taking the time to share your progress!
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Holy crap how had I not spotted this thread earlier! :o (I've got a half built version of one of these in the loft started by my dad.)
Read through all the work done so far and really enjoying the added detail that you've put in (Now debating whether to re-investigate the model with a view to adding some details and get it finished; the only problem is 'Where do I put the finished bird?') ::)
Paul
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if anyone is onterested, i've pot one in my stash that's for sale!
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Holy crap how had I not spotted this thread earlier! :o (I've got a half built version of one of these in the loft started by my dad.)
Read through all the work done so far and really enjoying the added detail that you've put in (Now debating whether to re-investigate the model with a view to adding some details and get it finished; the only problem is 'Where do I put the finished bird?') ::)
Paul
Paul,
If you do decide to work on your Dad's DR1, my blog has more detail and pictures for reference: https://thescalemodelhanger.blogspot.com/?m=0
This scale is pretty awesome to work on, lots of opportunities to discover new details on the subject being built.
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Holy crap how had I not spotted this thread earlier! :o (I've got a half built version of one of these in the loft started by my dad.)
Read through all the work done so far and really enjoying the added detail that you've put in (Now debating whether to re-investigate the model with a view to adding some details and get it finished; the only problem is 'Where do I put the finished bird?') ::)
Paul
Paul,
If you do decide to work on your Dad's DR1, my blog has more detail and pictures for reference: https://thescalemodelhanger.blogspot.com/?m=0
This scale is pretty awesome to work on, lots of opportunities to discover new details on the subject being built.
Thanks for that. ;D (Nice site that I'll have a close look at later)
I had a quick rummage earlier and the fuselage is mainly put together so would need some dexterous work to retrofit some detail, but should be possible once the horrible rigging (which I assume is the kits offering) has been removed. I'd like to keep some of the original work for sentimental reasons, but think a few added details here and there would make a difference. Wings are completely untouched so far as I can tell.
The built up engine is probably a good place to start since that's relatively easy to remove the pushrods and get into reworking a bit as well as being easier item to display item in its own right :)
Paul