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The WW1 modelers' reference library => Aircraft => Topic started by: KiwiZac on August 29, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
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Hi all,
Some of you may be aware of Andrew Carter's TAVAS organisation (http://tavas.com.au/), which operated a range of Great War replica and reproduction aircraft in Australia. Among them were three Fokkers built by Achim Engels and his Fokker Team Schorndorf on long term loan to the organisation: an E.III, a D.VII and a D.VIII. Sadly TAVAS is no longer a going concern and the aircraft have been moved on to new homes.
Thanks to a deal brokered by Graham Orphan the three Engels-built aircraft are now on loan to and operated by the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre here in Blenheim, NZ. For the last few months efforts have been focused on getting the Engels E.4 (Eindecker) airworthy and this is being looked after by a dedicated team consisting of Tony Wytenburg (whose Classic Aero Machining Service built the engine), Dan Coleman, Aaron Pearce and Stuart Tantrum. All these gentlemen bar Tony (who was recovering from surgery) had the chance to run the aircraft on Friday evening - I happened to be leaning on the fence and was invited over to watch (and smell!) this magnificent machine up close.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53150073088_53c1fc0624_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYG21u)DSC08847 (https://flic.kr/p/2oYG21u) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149782624_1d20d5691e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEwEu)DSC08866 (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEwEu) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149782739_63791ef604_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEwGt)DSC08902 (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEwGt) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYzKDo) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53148851142_b29585dab5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYzKLs)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYzKLs) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149635219_c8575ae4a4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYDLR2)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYDLR2) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149635224_6bb30413be_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYDLR7)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYDLR7) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149862155_bb0f89c6d3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEWiH)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYEWiH) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53149430751_d54f06a825_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oYCJ4H)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2oYCJ4H) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
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James Orphan shot some excellent video which is available on YouTube here (https://youtu.be/GkrJWXBqoyI?si=JUjsP-Wv3vKGoqTV), and I filmed some rather more mediocre stuff which you can watch here (https://youtu.be/jC1ZcgJnKI0?si=dVMNCJE8F3ydwsRV).
I'm very excited to follow progress and am hoping to share more photos (in this Flickr album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/albums/72177720310823219)) and video as I can.
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Thanks for posting these, Zac, what marvelous shots! I mentioned last night on another thread that I always thought Eindekkers were "drab", but these photos showed me how dumb a statement that was. They especially show the effect of the light coming through the fabric, it looks opaque in the hangar but with the sun coming through the effect is stunning... particularly the covers on the wheels.
Dutch
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Thanks for posting these, Zac, what marvelous shots! I mentioned last night on another thread that I always thought Eindekkers were "drab", but these photos showed me how dumb a statement that was. They especially show the effect of the light coming through the fabric, it looks opaque in the hangar but with the sun coming through the effect is stunning... particularly the covers on the wheels.
Dutch
Agree. Great photos Zac.
Dutch, tellingly, we never see light coming through the fabric of Fokker Eindeckers in WWI, like we do on this beautiful clear doped linen covered reproduction.
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Great photos, Zac. That must have been a real treat to witness all of that.
Cheers,
Gary
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I'm hoping to get more photos showcasing the fabric (particularly how visible the weave is) and showing it in different sunlight settings.
Gary, it was magic. The sound and smell really is something else in person - I understand why some of the guys wore earplugs but, man, did she sound awesome!!
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Great photos, Zac. That must have been a real treat to witness all of that.
Cheers,
Gary
Ditto, great shots, Thanks !
Ed
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Wonderful photo collection Zac, thanks for posting them. Achim Engels made them a stunning replica.
Richie
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It's very close to flying, which I hope happens in October at the earliest as I'll be away for the next two weeks and I'd hate to miss it.
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For those of you who use Facebook Tony Wytenburg, boss of CAMS and the man behind new-build rotary aero engines, has shared a photo and video of the Eindecker and locally-based Sopwith Pup (currently fitted with a brand-new 7cyl Gnome) running on the ground (link (https://www.facebook.com/tony.wytenburg/posts/pfbid0smQtBU5inRjQ3ENkSXnKh7LLo2V8PBMaRrQq7uMcTcsYXeLS3RbSfAwpqRue6PNkl)). I saw and heard them but as I was working in another hangar a fair distance away my photos are less than ideal:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53174088665_e63e22cf88_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p1P71a)Sopwith Pup ZK-SPH and Fokker Eindecker (https://flic.kr/p/2p1P71a) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53174088635_4e0bff6400_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p1P6ZD)Sopwith Pup ZK-SPH and Fokker Eindecker (https://flic.kr/p/2p1P6ZD) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
As an aside the 7cyl Gnome sounds rather "beefier" than the 9cyl we're used to around here, it's very cool (Facebook link to a video of the Pup in flight with the new engine (https://www.facebook.com/tony.wytenburg/videos/1654459321699540)).
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Thank you very much for all of this sir!
Warren
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My pleasure Warren!
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Very jealous of you Zac! That’s an awesome reproduction aircraft. Looks to be very authentic and detailed. That Gnome engine must be music to hear in operation. Thanks for sharing.
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That Gnome engine must be music to hear in operation.
The sound - and smell - truly needs to be experienced in person. And on an all-grass field it's like being in a time warp!
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At the beginning of the month the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre hosted an open day and the Eindecker was on public display. It's not flown yet but it was wonderful to see it being admired by members of the public. There are some photos here (https://www.aviationfilm.com/articles/eindeckerom/index.shtml).
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Hi Zac,
Great shot and interesting to note something most modelers of the Eindecker's miss.
The flying/landing wire turnbuckles for the wings are colour coded as per the original aircraft.
Red on the starboard (right) wing and Green/Blue on the left.
You can see this in one of your shots,
Mike.
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Mike, what a fascinating detail! Thank you for pointing that out!
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Hi Zac,
I found out that fact when building my Fokker E.IV.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-E.IV/shots/EIV-9.jpg)
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Modelbuilding is educational 8)
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You can say that again! Since beginning my Eindecker obsession last fall I’ve amassed a small library of Fokker material (in addition to the stuff I already had) and haven’t been able to wade through a quarter of it to date… I feel like Homer Simpson when he told Marge “I can’t learn anything new without it pushing something old out of my brain…”
(Doh!)tch
;D
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I feel like Homer Simpson when he told Marge “I can’t learn anything new without it pushing something old out of my brain…”
I feel seen ;D
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Gents,
Please excuse resurrecting this thread, but I am hoping that the builders of this plane might help with my wing warping query.
And now I know that the turnbuckles were port and starboard color coded....Anyway, any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim
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Gents,
Please excuse resurrecting this thread, but I am hoping that the builders of this plane might help with my wing warping query.
And now I know that the turnbuckles were port and starboard color coded....Anyway, any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim
Hi Jim,
You can download my fully detailed build log from my web site if it'll help.
Link to my site - click on my signature block below.
Just go to the relevant 'Logs' page (1) and select the Fokker E.IV PDF icon.
Also PM me if you need to.
The link below is to a site about Achim Engles, builder of WW1 aircraft, including the Fokker.
https://www.collectors-edition.de/f-t-s_titel_english.htm (https://www.collectors-edition.de/f-t-s_titel_english.htm)
Mike
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Mike, sincere thanks for that pdf.! Great information in there; just what I needed, and then some!!!
Many thanks again,
Jim