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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on July 04, 2023, 02:10:01 AM
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I wish to Start this Build by Thanking Edgar and CSM for His/ Their Generosity. Thank you very much for making this build possible!
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Now that Mike has finished his detailed build of this kit I figured I would start a Slow, more or less OOB build. I am leaning towards doing #1255 with the union Jack markings. I will need to decide fairly quickly as there are differences in the details that need to be dealt with early on.
RAGIII
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I will follow you build with great interest Rick, as I did Mike's.
Nice to see you work on a British bird!
Willem
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Good to see you back building (nearly) real aeroplanes again Rick. I will be following along with interest, no matter how slow the build! I have long planned to scratch build one of these, but somehow it never seems to happen!
Stephen.
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Very happy to see you building this Rick and what a lovely gesture from Edgar.
I met David Bremner at an air display yesterday and had a really interesting chat with him. Unfortunately it was far too windy for any of the WW1 types to fly.
I may have had a lapse of concentration and bought the kit too. ;)
Richie
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Rick, looking forward to following along!
I'd love to build one of these myself, as the Scout has a special place in my heart. As many of you probably know, my old friend Leo Opdyke, who published WWI Aero magazine for many years built a 1:1 Scout in his basement. It'd make a fitting tribute to him, he went West earlier this year.
Dave V.
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Looking forward to seeing your progress, Rick!
Good luck.
Cheers,
Bob
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Yay! I will follow this closely.
/Fredrik
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Looking forward to it RagIiI.
Tim
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Looking forward to seeing you put your stamp on this one Rick!
Cheers,
Gary
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I met David Bremner at an air display yesterday and had a really interesting chat with him. Unfortunately it was far too windy for any of the WW1 types to fly.
Richie
Hi Richie,
That would be at the Shuttleworth display at Old Warden then,
Mike
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Thanks Guys! Your encouragement is appreciated. This arrived from Poland today via a Trade I did with a fellow modeler. ( All 1/48th scale WW2 kits I won't build) 8) So in RAGIII style we now have a Dual Build ::)
RAGIII
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Woo hoo, Rick is on the prowl again. Looking forward to your progress on both. Popcorn at the ready.... ;D ;D ;D
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The NC Mountain Aircraft Factory is open for business!
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Looking forward to this one Rick! :)
Cheers
BC
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The NC Mountain Aircraft Factory is open for business!
Yep, full production speed!
RAGIII
Looking forward to this one Rick! :)
Cheers
BC
Thanks Brad!
RAGIII
So today I did some prep work on the CSM Scout. I took care of some of the pre build work neede for 1255. I removed the stitching from the fuselage sides and drilled holes for rigging etc. I also removed the fuselage halves and wings from the sprues for the Roden Strutter. I filled some sink holes prior to sanding.
RAGIII
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Very nice to see you back on your usual double builds! I am keen on seeing you building both kits.
Andreas
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Happy to follow your double-build, Rick! I have both kits - in my stash…
Richard
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Fantastic, I'm excited to follow along with both.
As many of you probably know, my old friend Leo Opdyke, who published WWI Aero magazine for many years built a 1:1 Scout in his basement. It'd make a fitting tribute to him, he went West earlier this year.
That's a wonderful tribute Dave, I'm eager to see that.
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;D That'll make a grand pair when finished.
(With my butterfly concentration I'd be scared to attempt two 32nd kits at once. In fact, truth be told, I'd hesitate about starting one, but I really do fancy the Bristol Scout and the Sopwith is a proper bargain . . . . ::))
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Awesome! Will be fun to follow along ;D
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Enjoy the builds! Will be watching.
Steve
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Woo hoo, Rick is on the prowl again. Looking forward to your progress on both. Popcorn at the ready.... ;D ;D ;D
Thanks Juan, Don't know how I missed your comment!
RAGIII
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Very nice to see you back on your usual double builds! I am keen on seeing you building both kits.
Andreas
Thanks for looking in Andreas!
RAGIII
Happy to follow your double-build, Rick! I have both kits - in my stash…
Richard
Thanks Richard. You will get a fairly good idea of what they look like almost OOB....or so I hope ::)
RAGIII
;D That'll make a grand pair when finished.
(With my butterfly concentration I'd be scared to attempt two 32nd kits at once. In fact, truth be told, I'd hesitate about starting one, but I really do fancy the Bristol Scout and the Sopwith is a proper bargain . . . . ::))
I Love Chaos 8) Two at once is My thing!
RAGIII
Awesome! Will be fun to follow along ;D
Thanks, I Hope so !
RAGIII
Enjoy the builds! Will be watching.
Steve
Thanks Steve, I appreciate you following along!
RAGIII
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I’m impressed by my strutter.it’s a large aircraft and some of the pulling is super, though the wings are basic. Decals are, sadly, usual Roden unusable.
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I’m impressed by my strutter.it’s a large aircraft and some of the pulling is super, though the wings are basic. Decals are, sadly, usual Roden unusable.
Yes, it is indeed a large aircraft, especially compared to the Bristol Scout! I will either use paint or decals to represent basic rib tapes and enhance the wing. The One thing that looks Very promising to me is the large pegs on the struts!! Should make upper wing attachment much easier!
RAGIII
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I met David Bremner at an air display yesterday and had a really interesting chat with him. Unfortunately it was far too windy for any of the WW1 types to fly.
Richie
Hi Richie,
That would be at the Shuttleworth display at Old Warden then,
Mike
That's the one Mike. Shame about the wind keeping the WW1 types on the ground but the Spitfire MkI gave an beautiful display.
Sorry for the thread drift Rick. It's great to see the Strutter on the bench at the same time. This thread just got even more exciting.
Richie
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I've not bought a new model for some time now, but both of these are very tempting and it'll be great to follow your builds.
/Fredrik
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I've not bought a new model for some time now, but both of these are very tempting and it'll be great to follow your builds.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I will be in touch about these markings I pulled from the Net:
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RAGIII
PS: Probably the top one with #4 as it has a bit of the metal panels left unpainted.
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This look like it will be a fun set of builds. I'm looking forward to the progress!
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This look like it will be a fun set of builds. I'm looking forward to the progress!
Thanks for dropping by! I said this was going to be a slow build so....a slow start 8) Firewall/bulkhead is painted with Valejo Steel, German Black Grey and Desert yellow. The desert yellow was then treated with Burnt Sienna oils and a coat of Tamiya Clear Orange for the Darker wood. Raw Sienna and a Clear Yellow Tamiya coat was used for the lighter wood. The same treatment for the side frames.
RAGIII
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The end of todays session: Interior work is progressing on the Bristol Scout and some basic CDL has been sprayed in the Scout and Strutter interior.
RAGIII
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My Rick: if this is slow progress what would you be like if you built a model quickly?
Super finish on the wood and canvass interiors.
Stephen.
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My Rick: if this is slow progress what would you be like if you built a model quickly?
Super finish on the wood and canvass interiors.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I did a bit more work today. Wood painted in the Strutter interior and washes added to both models. Drybrushing a lighter CDL shade followed. Still more to do.
RAGIII
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and... just for fun I tested the decals. The one I tested came off of the backing paper easily, did not break p or tear, and conformed to a compound surface including raised rivets. I didn't use setting solution but I am certain that would have worked even better. Too bad the color is so dark!
RAGIII
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Moving along nicely (and so quick too!)
Ed
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Moving along nicely (and so quick too!)
Ed
Thanks for dropping by Amigo!
RAGIII
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Nice work on the interiors of both, Rick.
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Great work on the interiors so far Rick. The CDL looks lovely and oil stained in the most realistic way.
Richie
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Nice work on the interiors of both, Rick.
Thanks Ken. Not quite as detailed as yours but I think it will be good when I finish the Smoke and Mirrors Methods I use 8)
RAGIII
Great work on the interiors so far Rick. The CDL looks lovely and oil stained in the most realistic way.
Richie
Thanks Richie. I did a bit more yesterday but not enough to make another post worthwhile!
RAGIII
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I agree with Richie - the interiors look superb.
Stephen.
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I agree with Richie - the interiors look superb.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen!
RAGIII
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It will be a treat watching this lovely pair being built. Fine start on both, Rick.
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I agree with Prze, I'm enjoying following along with these two.
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I've not bought a new model for some time now, but both of these are very tempting and it'll be great to follow your builds.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I will be in touch about these markings I pulled from the Net:
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RAGIII
PS: Probably the top one with #4 as it has a bit of the metal panels left unpainted.
No problem Rick!
Just send me a message and I'll crack on. Roundels too? That would sort the dark colour...
Great work so far!
/Fredrik
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It will be a treat watching this lovely pair being built. Fine start on both, Rick.
Thanks Przemo!
RAGIII
I agree with Prze, I'm enjoying following along with these two.
Thanks for the comment Zac!
RAGIII
I've not bought a new model for some time now, but both of these are very tempting and it'll be great to follow your builds.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I will be in touch about these markings I pulled from the Net:
RAGIII
PS: Probably the top one with #4 as it has a bit of the metal panels left unpainted.
No problem Rick!
Just send me a message and I'll crack on. Roundels too? That would sort the dark colour...
Great work so far!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I have a couple of things to sort out then I will send that PM.
RAGIII
Yesterdays Progress:
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Still LOTS to do on both!
RAGIII
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Very nice interior work! I like the Oil stains on the lower part of the fuselage. You can already see that it’s a rotary engine here :)
Andreas
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Hi Rich,
Both coming along very nicely,
Mike
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Very nice interior work! I like the Oil stains on the lower part of the fuselage. You can already see that it’s a rotary engine here :)
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. Pretty Much OOB so far. Yep, Oil Stains and soaked in oil is My goal on both builds.
RAGIII
Hi Rich,
Both coming along very nicely,
Mike
Thanks Mike. Not as detailed as Kens build or what you would do but I am Ok with things so far! I have progressed a bit since My last post. The interior work is almost done. Just control cables and touch up to do. After assembling the fuselage I realized that the Ugly seam behind the observers cockpit floor would be very visible. I took about 5 minutes to cut a paper pattern to cover the area. Once painted it will look like the fabric covered floor. The IP was painted with oils then Random Eduard instruments were added. Not correct but it looks good to me. Oh yeah, I also need to make some lap belts!
RAGIII
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Next up is bringing the CSM Bristol Scout to this point !
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I ended up using sheet styrene and strip to represent the fabric floor and formers/stringers. Valejo and Oils used for painting. The bracing wires are stretched sprue.
RAGIII
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Gorgeous work RAGman, you've given me something to aim for with mine - particularly with the structural detail.
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Great stuff Rick, adding the styrene sheet to cover the ugly joint was a great idea. It looks perfect, especially with the bracing wires in place. I'm so happy seeing you working on WW1 subjects again. Your builds are always inspiring and you seem to be having a lot of fun with these.
Richie
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Gorgeous work RAGman, you've given me something to aim for with mine - particularly with the structural detail.
Thanks Zac! I am not doing anything out of the ordinary on this one. The basic kit is pretty good. I must admit that I found the directions a bit vague in some places. I was glad that I had a couple of other builds to refer to.
RAGIII
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Great stuff Rick, adding the styrene sheet to cover the ugly joint was a great idea. It looks perfect, especially with the bracing wires in place. I'm so happy seeing you working on WW1 subjects again. Your builds are always inspiring and you seem to be having a lot of fun with these.
Richie
Thanks Richie. It didn't take long to realize that sheet styrene would give a better result than the paper. The rest was pretty straight forward.
RAGIII
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Nice work so far!
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Nice work so far!
Thanks Jeroen! I mentioned in the comment to Zac that I found the directions to be a bit vague in places. Two of those are the location of the observers cockpit floor and the IP. The arrow showing where to locate the IP looks like it points to the bottom of the Fuselage...at least it does to Me. I changed mine twice and after looking at Sandys' build I think I have finally figured things out, so third times the charm!
RAGIII
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I agree with Richie that the plastic sheet solution to the seam problem was the correct one - simple but effective.
When I looked at the last photo of your 14/7/23 post I thought that you had made the wood parts from wood! That is one of the best simulations for wood that I have seen for a very long time.
Stephen.
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Nice weathering and painting there, Rick. Definitely a 'used' look.
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I agree with Richie that the plastic sheet solution to the seam problem was the correct one - simple but effective.
When I looked at the last photo of your 14/7/23 post I thought that you had made the wood parts from wood! That is one of the best simulations for wood that I have seen for a very long time.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen your comments are always appreciated. The wood is pretty much the standard method, beige acrylic with oils over to represent the wood. I think the Tamiya weathering powders made the floor look used and more like real wood. JMHO.
RAGIII
Nice weathering and painting there, Rick. Definitely a 'used' look.
Thanks Ken. In My opinion these Rotary birds were most likely as oily and dirty inside as out 8)
RAGIII
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Today I more or less caught the CSM Bristol Scout build up with the Strutter. All went well assembling the interior and joining the fuselage halves. I needed to do some trimming here and there to make sure the lower wing would fit but it was My Own Fault!
RAGIII
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Next Up: Drilling Lots of Tiny holes for rigging!
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Nice work on both builds. I think you captured the heavy wear these aircraft experienced in operational theatres.
All the best,
Tim
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Loving this, Rick. I really want to build one of these now after seeing yours and Mike's, and Richie's brilliant scratchbuild.
Dave V.
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Nice work on both builds. I think you captured the heavy wear these aircraft experienced in operational theatres.
All the best,
Tim
Thanks Tim. I appreciate the comment.
RAGIII
Loving this, Rick. I really want to build one of these now after seeing yours and Mike's, and Richie's brilliant scratchbuild.
Dave V.
Thanks Dave. Mikes is the Benchmark for most but I am trying to show closer to OOB. Richies Scout is in a totally different class 8)
RAGIII
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The fuselage has gone together beautifully Rick and the interior is superb. You're doing a great job on it.
Don't be too impressed with my Scout, close up it's kind of warty!
Richie
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The fuselage has gone together beautifully Rick and the interior is superb. You're doing a great job on it.
Don't be too impressed with my Scout, close up it's kind of warty!
Richie
Thanks Richie but I will remain Impressed 8) Yesterday I spent several hours working on the CSM Scout C. Most of it was drilling holes for the rigging. I had Excell #80 drill bits that either broke if they were sharp, or refused to break when they were just sharp enough to push/ force through the plastic :( The session ended with the lower wing being attached!
RAGIII
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You're making good progress with the Scout. Any fit issues found?
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You're making good progress with the Scout. Any fit issues found?
Thanks for dropping in Ken. I ended up needing to trim a bit off of the Bottom rear framework to get the lower wing in place.. I am 100% certain it was My own doing and not the kit!
RAGIII
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Very nice work! Following with great interest - this kit have been on my wish list for a long time :)
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Clipping right along, Rick, and looking good! I should definitely grab one of these kits before they’re all gone…
Dave V.
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The Scout looks excellent Rick - well up to your usual very high standard. Breaking drill bits is a real headache and very frustrating - but the holes will allow for a more realistic look to the rigging.
Stephen.
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Very nice work! Following with great interest - this kit have been on my wish list for a long time :)
Thanks for dropping by and the comment!
RAGIII
Clipping right along, Rick, and looking good! I should definitely grab one of these kits before they’re all gone…
Dave V.
Thanks Dave! Not a lot of progress but I will post what I have done. Yeah, the CSM kit is Excellent! I recommend it Highly!
RAGIII
The Scout looks excellent Rick - well up to your usual very high standard. Breaking drill bits is a real headache and very frustrating - but the holes will allow for a more realistic look to the rigging.
Stephen.
Thanks for the kind words as always Stephen!
RAGIII
I haven't done a lot on the Bristol but did attach the top and bottom fuselage parts as well as the Horizontal Tail surfaces. The cowling is not glued!
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Thanks to Richard I also received an unexpected gift in the form of some TEST Shots of cowlings. These are NOT what will be sold! The production cowlings will be Cast!
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Fit Test Decals, Again Not the Actual Product!
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I also have some masks coming soon from Fredrik for 43 squadron Markings.
RAGIII
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I have begun using the decals. So far no issues that I didn't create 8)
RAGIII
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Nice update Rick, those printed cowlings look beautifully formed. Speaking of cowlings, I'm seeing a lovely turned metal effect on the Strutter and the decals look very promising too. 😀
Richie
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Nice update Rick. Those decals really look great.
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Wow yes agree - those decals look great!
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The decal work looks good.
Have you decaled an entire aircraft before? I think great care would need to be taken if you have to mask over the decal surfaces.
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Nice update Rick, those printed cowlings look beautifully formed. Speaking of cowlings, I'm seeing a lovely turned metal effect on the Strutter and the decals look very promising too. 😀
Richie
Thanks Richie. I am doing My usual "Smoke and Mirrors" on the metal. Just painted Tamiya Aluminum then did some circles with a Silver Sharpie ::) It will look OK !
RAGIII
Nice update Rick. Those decals really look great.
Thanks Tim. This is still experimental. I have added a lot of the undersurface decals, pics later!
RAGIII
Wow yes agree - those decals look great!
Thanks!
RAGIII
The decal work looks good.
Have you decaled an entire aircraft before? I think great care would need to be taken if you have to mask over the decal surfaces.
Funny thing is My initial answer was going to be No. Then I thought of My first two WNW Fokker DVII builds. The Friedrichs scheme had lozenge wing decals and WNW streaked decals on the Fuselage. Only the nose, tail, and under fuselage were painted. The Loewenhardt DVII was entirely covered with Lozenge then the fuselage was overpainted.
That being said No masking was required. We shall see how this goes ::)
RAGIII
and here is a photo:
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The decals have gone on really well, the PC10 edges look really neat.
Richie
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The decals have gone on really well, the PC10 edges look really neat.
Richie
Thanks Richie. One more photo. A bit washed out but it does show the weave in the fabric 8)
RAGIII
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PS: The fuselage side decals will be the most challenging for two reasons:
1. These Test sheets had the square opening for the control wire tubes in the wrong location
2. They were designed to be applied before mounting the lower wing. ( I received them after assembling the parts)
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Wow! That looks amazing. We have come a long way from the days of Renwal Aeroskin kits!
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Lovely work, Rick! I am following both of your builds really carefully, especially the Scout! Your weathering is just great.... Regards, Marc
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Wow! That looks amazing. We have come a long way from the days of Renwal Aeroskin kits!
Thanks Tim. Yeah, Aviattic decals do add a New dimension to modeling. On the other hand, there is nothing like the feeling of applying those Aeroskin coverings, the glue was Awesome ::)
RAGIII
Lovely work, Rick! I am following both of your builds really carefully, especially the Scout! Your weathering is just great.... Regards, Marc
Thanks Marc. The Scout got it's initial painting yesterday as well. Pics soon!
RGIII
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Really nice work there with those decals. This project will look great when completed.
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Decals look great. Are they the usual Aviattic "warm water only?"
Steve
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I'm following the Scout build particularly! A Great help!
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Really nice work there with those decals. This project will look great when completed.
Thanks Ken...I Hope so 8)
RAGIII
Decals look great. Are they the usual Aviattic "warm water only?"
Steve
Thanks Steve and Yes, warm water and gloss white background. (Although I deviated)
RAGIII
I'm following the Scout build particularly! A Great help!
Thanks Marc. Here are the latest on the CSM Bristol Scout. I have done the first layers of CDL. On the undersides I have also done a bit of "See Through". The undersides still have a few layers of color to go.
RAGIII
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Scout looking good too, Rick
Sandy
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arrgh white balance RAG! j/k looking great ... but fer chrissakes WHITE BALANCE :-D
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I've been following this in lurk mode, nice to see both kits progressing so well, they are looking great. The Aviattic decals look good, Dave and Richard have done a great job in getting the contrast between the rib tapes and fabric (and markings) just right. I know there will be more tweaks before the decals are on sale but your Strutter looks very good at this stage.
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I agree. Very nice work on both builds RAG.
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Your Scout is coming along beautifully Rick, the translucent effect works well for me.
Richie
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A Thing of Beauty, Rick! Thanks to the kindness of a fellow Forum member there may be a Scout in my near future, so I'm taking notes. And I suspect there's a Strutter lurking somewhere down the timeline as well, always wanted to do a French machine.
Dave V.
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Been out of circulation recently Rick so I am catching up. Both the 1 1/2 Strutter and the Scout look very good in the colours, especially the Scout and the rib effect.
Stephen.
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Scout looking good too, Rick
Sandy
Thanks Sandy!
RAGIII
arrgh white balance RAG! j/k looking great ... but fer chrissakes WHITE BALANCE :-D
What is White Ballance? ;D OK BO, I know I have had some regression on My Photos. A change in the set up has not gone well!\
RAGIII
I've been following this in lurk mode, nice to see both kits progressing so well, they are looking great. The Aviattic decals look good, Dave and Richard have done a great job in getting the contrast between the rib tapes and fabric (and markings) just right. I know there will be more tweaks before the decals are on sale but your Strutter looks very good at this stage.
Thanks Nigel! Great to have you back!!
RAGIII
I agree. Very nice work on both builds RAG.
Thanks Tim!
RAGIII
Your Scout is coming along beautifully Rick, the translucent effect works well for me.
Richie
Thanks Richie. I have a bit to do before the Translucent effect looks right to Me!
RAGIII
A Thing of Beauty, Rick! Thanks to the kindness of a fellow Forum member there may be a Scout in my near future, so I'm taking notes. And I suspect there's a Strutter lurking somewhere down the timeline as well, always wanted to do a French machine.
Dave V.
The CSM Scout is an Awesome kit. I am sure you will enjoy the build. Kudos to the Memeber that has supplied you with the kit!
RAGIII
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Been out of circulation recently Rick so I am catching up. Both the 1 1/2 Strutter and the Scout look very good in the colours, especially the Scout and the rib effect.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! Always great to hear your Input!
RAGIII
.... and today I have finished applying all of the Aviattic PC 10 decals. Touch up paint was needed because of My inept application :(
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One thing to mention. The color looks very Green under the light I took the photo in. In My building and painting room there is a More OD look! Lighting does make a difference!!
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Wow both builds look great!
Enjoying the show! ;D
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This is coming on very well. I am liking the look of those decals a lot, I like the way they have handled the rib tapes.
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Looking very nice RAGIII. I’m liking the decals as well. The fabric details and ribbing are really impressive. Too bad it’s not available in 1/72.
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Both looking really good Amigo, will have to try the linen decals when I get my Scout .
Ed
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The decals look great, they'll save filling the air with solvent fumes from airbrushing and look fantastic.
Richie
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Wow both builds look great!
Enjoying the show! ;D
Thanks for the comments!
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This is coming on very well. I am liking the look of those decals a lot, I like the way they have handled the rib tapes.
Thanks Nigel. The actual sheets when released should be even better. These are Very early Test sheets. The real deal will have All national and squadron markings included.
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Looking very nice RAGIII. I’m liking the decals as well. The fabric details and ribbing are really impressive. Too bad it’s not available in 1/72.
Thanks, and yes, it's a shame 1/72nd doesn't get the Love it used to!
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Both looking really good Amigo, will have to try the linen decals when I get my Scout .
Ed
Thanks Amigo!
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The decals look great, they'll save filling the air with solvent fumes from airbrushing and look fantastic.
Richie
Thanks Richie. I managed to do some Air Pollution with clear coats, the Scout, and an Off Topic Build ;D
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Like everyone has already said - the linen effect decals look incredible!
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Like everyone has already said - the linen effect decals look incredible!
Thanks Dave! The next BIG test is going to be how they hold up to the Masks I will be using for the 43 squadron markings! That will not be an issue to anyone using the production Aviattic Decals!
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Looks absolutely great, Rick! I think Aviattic was the single biggest surprise waiting for me when I got back into modeling in a post-WnW world, I'll never forget how stunned I was when I saw that close-up of the big Felixstowe on their website for the first time. I'm really looking forward to trying the clear linen-effect decals on my Nieuport... assuming I ever get out of the cockpit, that is :-D
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Looks absolutely great, Rick! I think Aviattic was the single biggest surprise waiting for me when I got back into modeling in a post-WnW world, I'll never forget how stunned I was when I saw that close-up of the big Felixstowe on their website for the first time. I'm really looking forward to trying the clear linen-effect decals on my Nieuport... assuming I ever get out of the cockpit, that is :-D
Dutch
Thanks Dave. Yes, Aviattic has been one of the best developments in WW1 modeling in quite a while. I guess one could say they picked up where Americal left off! One other thing I need to Mention. I originally screwed up when assembling the kit engine. I broke and lost several parts. Knowing that Ken had used an aftermarket engine I asked and He agreed to send Me his unused kit engine. The second one went well, Thanks Ken!!
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A little more paint work done on the Scout. Upper rib tapes painted a lighter CDL. Should look good after a wash is applied to the edges of the tapes. I also did another layer on the underside "See Through" prior to overpainting. I was really pleased until I realized the roundels were a bit too far outboard. Oh well, good practice :-[
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Nicely done!
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Good progress here despite having to redo those roundels. All that CDL is a bit daunting...... ;)
A little more paint work done on the Scout. Upper rib tapes painted a lighter CDL. Should look good after a wash is applied to the edges of the tapes. I also did another layer on the underside "See Through" prior to overpainting. I was really pleased until I realized the roundels were a bit too far outboard. Oh well, good practice :-[
At least you painted the rings in the right colour order, unlike me! But as you say, it's all good practice. If you are going to strip the wing entirely (which I had to do), maybe try your CDL overspray first to see how it looks over the roundels and rib tapes on the underside?
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Nicely done!
Andreas
Thanks Andreas!
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Good progress here despite having to redo those roundels. All that CDL is a bit daunting...... ;)
A little more paint work done on the Scout. Upper rib tapes painted a lighter CDL. Should look good after a wash is applied to the edges of the tapes. I also did another layer on the underside "See Through" prior to overpainting. I was really pleased until I realized the roundels were a bit too far outboard. Oh well, good practice :-[
At least you painted the rings in the right colour order, unlike me! But as you say, it's all good practice. If you are going to strip the wing entirely (which I had to do), maybe try your CDL overspray first to see how it looks over the roundels and rib tapes on the underside?
Yep, at least the colors were in the right order. ::) So I have done a repaint on the lower surface of the upper wing. First though, we have the Masks for the Strutter . Thanks Fredrik, they look Awesome!
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and the Very Subtle repaint of the undersides see through.
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In real life the roundels are "Just" visible as are the ribs and spars. If I do another CDL see through thing I will be a bit more daring !
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A little more progress on the Scout: All major painting and decaling has been completed. Now for weathering and touch up!
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Really starting to come together! Looking really nice ;D
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This is coming together really well, excellent progress.
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Really starting to come together! Looking really nice ;D
Thanks for the comments!
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This is coming together really well, excellent progress.
Thanks Nigel!
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Beautiful work RAGman, she really is looking the part!!
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Beautiful work RAGman, she really is looking the part!!
Thanks Zac. Todays progress was a bit of weathering and mounting the upper wing.
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and the gear is mounted:
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Looking really good. It looks like it's all gone together relatively trouble free, these are great kits to build.
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Looking great, Rick. You make me want to get mine going too. I'm impressed by your ability to keep two plates spinning in the air at the same time, something I fail at!.
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Nice work, Rick. Won't be long until the Scout is done. What's your impression of the molded wing rib tapes, now that you have paint on the wings?
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Your Scout is looking lovely Rick, especislly the oil staining. The kit seems to go together really well too.
Richie
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Looking really good. It looks like it's all gone together relatively trouble free, these are great kits to build.
Thanks Nigel. It has gone together well....lets hope it stays together 8)
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Looking great, Rick. You make me want to get mine going too. I'm impressed by your ability to keep two plates spinning in the air at the same time, something I fail at!.
Sandy
Thanks Sandy! Multiple planes spinning sometimes causes disaster :o I actually have an Off topic build going also!
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Nice work, Rick. Won't be long until the Scout is done. What's your impression of the molded wing rib tapes, now that you have paint on the wings?
Thanks Ken. Still a way to go but it is getting closer. As for the Rib Tapes, I think they are too pronounced for scale. That being said I feel the same way about WNW kits :-X My opinion is Rib Tapes are the "New" Starving cow syndrome. JMHO,
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Your Scout is looking lovely Rick, especislly the oil staining. The kit seems to go together really well too.
Richie
Thanks Richie. I am making use of the photos provided in the instructions. Still some more layers to add.
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Catching up with progress Rick. I am very impressed indeed with the shadow effect of the roundels under the wings - they look just right to me.
The Scout is an impressive model and was quite a small aircraft: if I ever get to scraatch one in the True Scale I will need to remember just how small they were.
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Catching up with progress Rick. I am very impressed indeed with the shadow effect of the roundels under the wings - they look just right to me.
The Scout is an impressive model and was quite a small aircraft: if I ever get to scratch one in the True Scale I will need to remember just how small they were.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! I would love to see you do one!
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Looking terrific RAGIII. I like the weathering and choice of scheme.
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Looking terrific RAGIII. I like the weathering and choice of scheme.
Thanks Tim! I have gone back/forward with the Strutter. Progress has been made...sort of. What do you guys think?
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Excellent work Rick!
Cheers,
Gary
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That is looking really good! I'm really hoping the masking on top of this finish will go well! 🤞🤞🤞
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Looking really good Rick. The weave simulation, especially as seen on the tailplane, is most effective. Did you do the wrap around - that's the bit that would drive me batty with 'aeroskin' type coverings.
Sandy
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I think this is looking good! I'm really keen to see how this all progresses.
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Should look really good once you knock down the shiny.
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That is looking really good! I'm really hoping the masking on top of this finish will go well! 🤞🤞🤞
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I am answering your comment first for the following reason:
I applied a couple of gloss coats over the decal PC 10. I know others have masked with No Trouble over well sealed Aviattic Decals, but I was not successful! The Decals DID NOT LIFT from the masking but curiously the Ink came off in the areas that I had masked on the upper wing? So, as Many of you have guessed, I think, I removed the PC 10 decals from the upper wings and fuselage sides. I then used some of Bobs Strippers over the white base coat to simulate the rib tapes. Once the first coat of My Tamiya PC 10 mix was sprayed, I removed the strippers and sprayed another coat of PC10.
This left a lighter rib tape and actually looks similar to the Aviattic rib treatment. Thus I went backwards and forwards ::)
Thanks to all for the comments!!
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PS: I want to emphasize that masking will not be necessary on the production Avaiattic decals as All Markings will be included!
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Today I used the Masks provided by Fredrik and sprayed the roundels. All went well except the right upper wing roundel which needs correction work!
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Tamiya was used for the white, Drooling Bulldog for the Blue and Red.
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Hi Rick!
What a peculiar behaviour of the decals?! Colour removal through layers of clear... Your continued path forward looks successful though and it looks like you've mastered the masks. 😊
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Good to see this progressing despite the challenges.
I then used some of Bobs Strippers over the white base coat to simulate the rib tapes. Once the first coat of My Tamiya PC 10 mix was sprayed, I removed the strippers and sprayed another coat of PC10.
I really like your approach to this. I personally like subtle treatment of rib tapes in 1/32, as most of the moulded tapes are overscale and IMO don't need heavy preshading. On PC10/12, you can see a subtle shift in the lighting on the tapes on real aircraft and what you have done here really emulates that very well IMO.
I was unaware of Bob's "strippers" (and I had to google that very carefully) and these look like very useful things to have. The semitransparent nature is helpful in masking rib tapes - I found that challenging on the Scout build using Tamiya tape.
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Hi Rick!
What a peculiar behaviour of the decals?! Colour removal through layers of clear... Your continued path forward looks successful though and it looks like you've mastered the masks. 😊
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik. I think I know what happened. The mask actually lifted the clear coat which took the ink from the decal with it.
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Good to see this progressing despite the challenges.
I then used some of Bobs Strippers over the white base coat to simulate the rib tapes. Once the first coat of My Tamiya PC 10 mix was sprayed, I removed the strippers and sprayed another coat of PC10.
I really like your approach to this. I personally like subtle treatment of rib tapes in 1/32, as most of the moulded tapes are overscale and IMO don't need heavy preshading. On PC10/12, you can see a subtle shift in the lighting on the tapes on real aircraft and what you have done here really emulates that very well IMO.
I was unaware of Bob's "strippers" (and I had to google that very carefully) and these look like very useful things to have. The semitransparent nature is helpful in masking rib tapes - I found that challenging on the Scout build using Tamiya tape.
Yes, Bobs strippers are Handy for many things. Once you realize what they are and how reasonably priced Bob makes them 8)
I mentioned My thoughts earlier on overdone rib tapes. This method is pretty standard for My Roden builds!
Later yesterday I added the letters and numbers for the 43 squadron markings, again using Fredriks Masks!
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PS: Sorry Bo :-[
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I think it looks great Rick. Colour lifting from the PC10 decals is weird and plain unlucky. Your paint mix replacement looks perfect. To paraphrase the old Superman TV series.Is it brown? Is it green? No, it's PC10! ;)
Richie
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I think it looks great Rick. Colour lifting from the PC10 decals is weird and plain unlucky. Your paint mix replacement looks perfect. To paraphrase the old Superman TV series.Is it brown? Is it green? No, it's PC10! ;)
Richie
Thanks Richie! The color is certainly greenish/brownish 8) Just for the record if you compare the Horizontal Tail surfaces and the wings you can see that My rib method is pretty close to the Aviattic Decals!
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Sorry Rick, I should have commented on how well you had matched the rib tape details of the decals. I did notice how well it had been executed but the dinner bell tolled and made me rush! :)
Richie
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Both builds look great. I really like the look of the linen effect decals and look forward to them being available for sale. I'll hold off on my kit until I can get them.
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Yet another SIP (Stunner In Progress), Rick!
Everything I've seen from Aviattic has been beautifully done, and it seems there's going to be no exception with these decals.
Dutch
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Great progress.
Steve
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Nice painting Rick. You seem to have matched the decals perfectly.
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Good to see this progressing despite the challenges.
I then used some of Bobs Strippers over the white base coat to simulate the rib tapes. Once the first coat of My Tamiya PC 10 mix was sprayed, I removed the strippers and sprayed another coat of PC10.
I really like your approach to this. I personally like subtle treatment of rib tapes in 1/32, as most of the moulded tapes are overscale and IMO don't need heavy preshading. On PC10/12, you can see a subtle shift in the lighting on the tapes on real aircraft and what you have done here really emulates that very well IMO.
I was unaware of Bob's "strippers" (and I had to google that very carefully) and these look like very useful things to have. The semitransparent nature is helpful in masking rib tapes - I found that challenging on the Scout build using Tamiya tape.
Hi Nigel,
I'm curious - do you have a link to 'Bob's Strippers'?
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I'm curious - do you have a link to 'Bob's Strippers'?
Sorry to derail the thread slightly but here you go: https://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/strippers.html (https://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/strippers.html) Bob's website isn't the easiest to navigate around..... ;)
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Both the Scout and the Strutter are looking magnificent, Rick, some of your best work ever... (and that's saying something!!) Loving the fabric textures on the Scout, I feel subtle is better, and you have nailed it.... Regards, Marc
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I'm sorry I've not commented much recently RAGman but I've been reading every update. The full-airframe decal concept for the Strutter is interesting and it's been great to see your progress, but for my personal taste the fabric effect is too much (with the caveat I'm yet to encounter an original piece of WW1 fabric aside from one of MvR's crosses).
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Great work on the fuselage and decals - they look awesome! :)
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Really wonderful work and and progress, Rick -
Those linen decals (you have done a great application job here) really look the part.
Regards
Dave
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Great progress and work on both birds, Rick.
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What a nice gesture of Richard to send you the test shots of cowlings!
I just don't get how you do these great double builds Rick. I think they both look stunning.
Where do you find the time?
Do you sleep at all?
Cheers,
Willem
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Bob's strippers......he's right here on the forum.
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Thanks to all for the comments. Some may know that the Strutter was destroyed in a fit of frustration. I was smart enough to sideline the Scout. So after Months I have made a tentative re-start on the CSM scout. I have run the rigging line through the pre drilled holes on the left wing cellule. May not sound like a lot but under My personal circumstances I think it is a monumental start back to modeling WW1.
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Good to see you back working on this one. It's such a nice kit it should be relatively stress free to get completed and it will look great when it's done because it's looking very nice so far.
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Yeah, indeed great to see you back to this project. Fingers crossed!!!
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Glad to see you back on this one Rick. Hope things are better now. Always love your work (WWI &WWII)
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I am totally with the others - it is good to see you back and trying to build a real aeroplane! Take your time over it and try not to get stressed - just walk away when you feel the tension mounting.
Stephen.
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Good to have you back! And the Scout is looking great :)
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This warms my heart Rick. As much as I've been enjoying your WW2 builds it's great to see you back on this.
just walk away when you feel the tension mounting.
Tension...rigging... ;D