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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Mike Norris (UK) on June 30, 2023, 05:59:29 AM
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Hi all,
You ever get that feeling of 'I probably should't have started this'.
As the Bristol Scout build is just waiting for the display case to be delivered, I thought I'd start my next build.
The 'KatModel' 1:32nd scale kit of the Phonix C.I, which hopefully will represent Phonix C.I, Serial No.121.57 of Flik 57/Rb, operating from Godega (Italian Front) during June, 1918.
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/header.jpg)
Hmmmm - where do I start?
When the fuselage halves are held together at the tail, the from of the fuselage spreads to an 8mm gap.
Also the forward sides of the fuselage are not vertical, which prevents the two 3D printed nose cowls from fitting correctly.
The massive 'engine supports in the the fuselage are next to useless.
The 3D printed cockpit decking panel spreads over the fuselage sides by at least 4mm.
The engine side panels are too long to fit between the nose cowls and cockpit decking.
The right side of the engine has carburetors, which foul the panel that side and stop it from fitting correctly.
The 3D printed cockpit assembly did not fit inside the closed up fuselage.
The surface detail, such as panels and panel 'fasteners' are way oversize and look like they were made in a shipyard.
Other than that, so far OK ;)
Suffice to say:
I pinned the fuselage halves
Filed down the fuselage join seams
Filed down the cockpit sides
Added a spreader inside the forward fuselage to straight the sides
Removed the engine supports
Removed the engine carburetors for the right side
Filed back the forward edge of the cockpit decking panel
Filed the end edges of the two engine side panels
Filed down the propeller shaft in the lower nose cowl.
The fuselage and nose cowls have been joined with CA adhesive (the cockpit assembly and engine can be inserted).
The 3D printed panels and engine are just test fitted for now.
As you can doubtless see, most if not all of the fuselage detail will probably have to be removed and replaced with more in-scale detail.
Also the joins between panels and the fuselage will need to be blended.
I enjoy a challenge, but really :o
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/fus1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/fus2.jpg)
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Whatever you say, that doesn’t look too bad.
Andreas
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I agree with Andreas, and I have faith in your skills Mike!
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Ah Mike. You are in the world of short run 1/72 only in large scale! Looks like your modifications are paying off well. Did you hollow out the windshield, or just scratch a new one?
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Hi Tim,
Unlike the kit Andreas received mine came with the windscreen hollowed out,
Mike
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I'm looking forward to the further course. The Phönix you picked is very pretty. I put my 48 kit aside for now ;)
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This should be another excellent build to watch Mike!
RAGIII
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Shipyard indeed. Those steampunk-looking rivets on the nose section remind me of the Disney version of Captain Nemo's Nautilus.
Looking forward to seeing the magic you work on this one.
Dave V.
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Hi all,
Just a few updates.
The 3D printed cockpit decking panel overlaps the sides of the fuselage, which also do not align with the decking panel.
Therefore I've had to pin the bottom edges of the decking panel into the top edges of the fuselage to force the two to align.
Also, when the cockpit assembly is located into the fuselage, the 3D printed 'block' forming the floor of the observers cockpit does not extend far enough into the rear of the fuselage.
In addition, there is no rear cockpit bulkhead supplied in the kit.
Therefore, the spaces left will be seen with the cockpit decking panel fitted.
I've made a 'false' floor and rear bulkhead from 0.4 mm thick plastic card, which is thin enough to be able to flex when the cockpit assembly is inserted into the fuselage.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/fus10.jpg)
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My initial reaction is hat one should not have to deal with this stuff in a Modern 3D printed kit. That being said, you are doing your usual outstanding job!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The saga continues.
Having carried out a bit more research I've found the following regarding the 3D printed cockpit:
The aircraft was fitted with a pilots steering wheel with the associated aileron control cables - not a control column
The pilot seat was a curved back seat type - not an armchair
The observers seat was a fold down seat on the rear bulkhead and facing forward - not an armchair type facing rearwards
The pilot and observers cockpit were as one - not separated by a solid bulkhead
The instrument panel does not have all of the instruments required
The observers cockpit has no detail such as radio gear etc
The observers machine gun is the wrong type.
So basically the only usable part of the 3D printed cockpit is the rudder bar!!
Then there is the over scale landing gear and wheels, not to mention the flimsy wire in the wings, intended as support and to prevent warping.
I will conquer this model, but for now it's being shelved,
Mike
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This is a really useful build review Mike - thank you for taking one for the team!
I had been in touch with Kat attempting to purchase this C.I and their 1/32 Phoenix D.I kit but was getting a bit hacked off with how difficult it was proving. Easy for me to say of course - asking questions in English, of a Polish company but still, there is next to nothing on the website about either of these kits, to let you know what you actually get.
It seems to be a 1/48 CAD creation which has been scaled up/down for the 1/72 and 1/32 releases?
Anyway, I've got too many WNW, Roden, CSM and resin kits still to build so I'll try to finish some of them first before I add this to the pile.
I'm sure your rendition will elevate the quality of the kit way beyond what most of us can achieve - looking forward to its completion.
Sandy
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Until such time as you come back to this one I will look forward to what you choose to build Now!
RAGIII
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Wow. That kit certainly leaves a lot to be desired for interior. I’m still tempted to buy the 1/72 version because scratch building is more forgiving in that scale. Hoping you do come back to this though, it’s an interesting subject and I’ll enjoy watching you perfect it!
All the best,
Tim
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Hi Tim,
Hmmm maybe I will.
However, the future 'Lukgraph' release of the Phonix D.1/D.II may be a better bet,
Mike
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Wow, what a train wreck!
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Hi all,
The only model I have ever shelved is the 1:32nd scale KatModel Phonix C.1.
I bought it back in 2023 when it was first released.
I shelved the model as it proved too troublesome, for various quality and detail reasons.
However, while I wait for 'Flying Bears' Thulin K to arrive from Sweden, I thought I'd have another go at the Phonix.
I've replaced most of the external details and am currently building the cockpit from scratch.
The only part used from the 3D printed cockpit assembly is the floor.
Everything else was removed and/or replaced.
I'll post progress shots soon,
Mike
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Hi all,
Apart from what I've previously mentioned, here's more that has had to be addressed:
No instructions or decals supplied.
Resin cast upper wing halves - warped, over scale access panels, no underside details, trailing edges thick, missing detail.
Resin cast lower wings - warped, trailing edges thick, no support into the fuselage.
3D printed ailerons - warped, no control horns, no aileron hinge attachment points in upper wing.
Rudder - no control horns.
Elevator - no fuselage control horn.
3D printed upper wing centre section - Incorrect top panel, no underside detail at all, over scale detail, missing detail
3D printed tail plane - warped, trailing edges thick, no control horns.
Cockpit - virtual rebuild from floor, rudder bar, control wheel, no internal detail or equipment.
Cockpit decking panel - incorrect shaped pilots cockpit opening, thick sides, observers gun ring, incorrect machine gun, lightening holes missing in fairing sides.
Landing gear - axle end too short to attach wheels fully, struts over size and round, claw brake not correct and a missing step bar..
Engine - propeller shaft too short to mount propeller, engine support required, no radiator to wing pipes supplied.
Propeller - rectangular cross section.
Engine access panels - fasteners, hatches and panels over scale, incorrect panel right side.
Fuselage - hatches over scale, some missing others not located correctly, no external compass housing.
Now I need to address the wing struts:
Interplane struts, which are 3D printed with no internal support rod, weak, some warped and rectangular cross section (not aerofoil).
Side cabane struts, which are 3D printed, thin and very weak.
Rear cabane struts missing.
Maybe soon I can thick about building this 'kit' ::)
Mike
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Boy, you like a challenge....... ;) :)
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Hi all,
Here's some progress shots of the kit parts after priming.
I won't go into details of what needed to be straightened, deleted, added or modified.
Suffice to say it's taken a while to get to this stage.
Everything done and why will be detailed in my PDF build log on completion,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/prog1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/prog2.jpg)
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A real silk purse on the horizon here Mike! Great work.
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Wow.......just, wow.....
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Hi all,
I've prepared the fuselage internal parts ready for construction.
Wood effects done with ?Windsor & Newton? Griffin Alkyd oil paint (Burnt Umber).
The kit does not supply any decals or fuselage internal equipment parts. The following are either purchased, scratch made or from my 'spares' collection:
Decals from ?Airscale? generic WW1 dials (AS32 WW1) and spares.
Photo-etch seat belts (spares).
Cockpit equipment (spares).
?GasPatch? un-jacketed Schwarzlose 07-12 machine gun (17-32112).
The engine is very basic as only the top of the cylinders are visible on the finished model.
Some of the side detail on the 3D printed engine had to be removed (not visible anyway) to allow the engine side access panels to fit.
For ease, the ignition leads are attached to the bottom of the engine cylinders as that area can't be seen with engine side access panels fitted.
The engine still needs to be modified to fit the three radiator coolant pipes to the underside of the upper wing (not supplied in the kit).
So now moving towards assembling the fuselage at last,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/donk1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/donk2.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/weapons.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/pitbits1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/woods.jpg)
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You deserve a medal of some sorts for this one! Loving the wood effect, and overall fantastic progress.
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I agree, that's really great work.
Alan.
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Amazing that we spend good money on a kit that isn't a kit yet and we have to finish what the manufacturer should have done.
After seeing this wrestling going on, I will not grumble about my Eduard Pup again....
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Hi all,
The cockpit is now complete.
Just about everything has had to be either modified, replaced or scratch made.
I still need to weather and clear coat the surfaces.
Then it's onto creating the coolant pipes needed before I can fit the engine,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/pitdone1.jpg)
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Very Impressive. It really likes as if you had to make a lot of dust getting to this point.
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This really is a testament to your top notch modelling skills Mike. The closed cockpit looks fantastic.
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Hi all,
The aircraft had three pipes that connected the engine coolant system to the radiator, mounted on the upper wing.
No surprise that these pipes are not supplied in the kit.
Therefore they were made from 'Albion Alloy's' Brass rod and tubes of various diameters.
The engine ends were annealed then formed and the wing ends will be formed once the upper wing is fitted,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/radpipe6.jpg)
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Hi all,
When the engine and the 3D printed side access panels were test fitted, I found the following:
The bottom edges of the engine side panels were bowed and did not align with the fuselage.
The top, rear edges of the side panels did not meet, leaving a large gap between them.
I removed the bow in the side panels using heat from a hair dryer to re-profile the panels.
The gap between the top, rear of the panels was filled with 1.0 mm thick plastic card then sanded to shape.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/packing.jpg)
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Hi all,
I had hoped that the kit 3D printed interplane struts would be OK after I'd re-profiled their flat cross section.
However, I had my doubts and sure enough one broke just by a gentle knock with my finger.
So all of the kit struts have been discard and I'll need to make replacements from Brass rod and tube.
I had to make the fuselage cabane struts anyway as the kit struts were frankly pathetic.
So, we'll see how that goes ???
Mike
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This is truly a 'reconstruction" kit, Mike! You are doing a very careful and comprehensive build though, well done! Marc
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@Mike Norris
Really excellent work here - very good craftsmanship.
Not just here, but in many of your previous models, where I have looked over your shoulders while you were building them.
You have the gift, the talent, to make a pretty honeypot out of a dull dustbin.
Servus
Bertl
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@Mike Norris
Really excellent work here - very good craftsmanship.
Not just here, but in many of your previous models, where I have looked over your shoulders while you were building them.
You have the gift, the talent, to make a pretty honeypot out of a dull dustbin.
Servus
Bertl
Hi Bertl,
Thanks and I hope I can defeat this kit.
I've always completed any model I've started,
Mike
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Hi all,
Well it's taken two days so far and 8 of the 12 struts required are done.
Only 4 more to go and I'll post progress shots,
Mike
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This one really is fighting back hard, but you seem to have it under control...... ;)
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Hi all,
Well that was fun!!
Fuselage cabane struts made from 'Albion Alloy's' 1.1 mm diameter Brass tube with 0.5 mm diameter internal support Brass rod.
Interplane struts made from 'Albion Alloy's' 1.4 mm diameter Brass tube with 0.5 mm diameter internal support Brass rod.
All strut tubes were compressed into an aerofoils shape using my 'Albion Alloy's' 'Strutter' vice jaws (no longer available).
Wings and fuselage were drilled to accept the strut support rods.
I used masking tape strips to hold the wings together as I made and fitted each strut, as the solid resin wings are not rigid and do flex.
Also, this enabled me to achieve the slight dihedral for the lower wings whilst keeping the upper wing horizontal.
Now it's onto:
Re-profiling the shape of the upper wing opening above the pilot.
Creating the cut outs in the trailing edge of the lower wing roots.
Creating the clear window ports in the decking panel each side of the pilots windscreen.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/strutsin1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/strutsin2.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/strutsin3.jpg)
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I am glad the GB has inspired you to get back on this one Mike. Your skills are amazing. Rebuilding as you go on almost every part has to be challenging even for you!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The kit supplied wings have a cut out in the upper wing above the pilot and no cut outs at the lower wing roots.
These seem to be for earlier production aircraft.
Later production aircraft had the upper wing cut out enlarged and cut outs at the lower wing roots, both for better visibility for the pilot.
Also, clear window ports were located in the cockpit decking panel, each side of the pilots windscreen.
My assumption is that these were to allow daylight into the cockpit to better illuminate the pilots instrument panel, which was set forward under the decking panel.
Finally, earlier production aircraft had rear fuselage cabane struts fitted, but it seems later aircraft did not and the strut openings in the decking panel were blanked off.
Later in this build the clear wind recesses added will be filled with clear resin.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/wingprop2.jpg)
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More excellent research work and attention to detail Mike, bravo!
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More excellent research work and attention to detail Mike, bravo!
Agreed!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The three coolant pipes (not supplied in the kit) have now been formed in shape.
They were made from annealed 0.8 mm diameter Brass rod and 1.0 mm diameter Brass tube.
The finished pipes were immersed in 'Black-It' solution then lightly buffed with a cloth.
They fit between the engine and the underside of the radiator on the upper wing.
Also the supply pipes from the auxiliary fuel tank in the upper wing to fuselage (not supplied in the kit) were made from 0.5 mm diameter Brass rod.
Now I could be wrong, but I think I'm ready to actually start building this model!!
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/radpipes6.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/pipesdone.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/ypipe1.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/pipesdone1.jpg)
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Awesome! Your work is always amazing!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
This particular aircraft (121.57) had the Austro-Hungarian ?wolkenartige Schattierung (?Cloud?) scheme of light and dark grey.
Although originally it was thought to be green and tan coloured.
The undersides of the wings and fuselage are painted white as those surfaces will have 'Aviattic' Clear Doped Linen (CDL) and 'Lukgraph' plywood decals applied.
These decals are transparent so require a light coloured base coat to show the linen and wood effect.
The two grey used for the upper surfaces were:
Light Grey - ?Tamiya? Medium Sea Grey 2 (RAF) (XF83)
Dark Grey - 'Tamiya? Ocean Grey 2 (RAF) (XF82).
The painted surfaces have to be smoothed and have a gloss clear coat applied before I apply the decals.
The interplane and fuselage cabane struts needed to be fitted to the upper wing so they could be aligned correctly to the lower wings.
Therefore, cutting and applying the CDL decals on that wing will present a challenge,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/paint1.jpg)
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I can't believe you've made it so far without losing your sanity! ;) This looks great.
The interplane and fuselage cabane struts needed to be fitted to the upper wing so they could be aligned correctly to the lower wings.
Therefore, cutting and applying the CDL decals on that wing will present a challenge,
Yes, that will be a challenge. Best of luck!
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This one is turning out to be a cracking model and I'm really enjoying following your progress and detail additions :)
Paul
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The color schema is really cool!
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Lovely scheme Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The base decals have been applied.
The underside decals are 'Aviattic' WW1 CDL (aged varnish) (ATT32094).
The top surfaces are 'Aviattic' Linen Weave effect (ATT32236).
The underside of the fuselage is 'Lukgraph' Dark Plywood (DEC005).
Any difference is shade of the decals is just my photographs, not the decals themselves.
The kit does not supply any decals at all.
Therefore, for the aircraft markings I'll use suitable spare decals I have or print them,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/decson1.jpg)
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That's a very impressive decalling job, especially on the underside of the top wing. Well done!
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Looking nicer and nicer. Makes me rethink if I shouldn?t take another look at my . . . well, let us still call it <<kit>>.
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Looking nicer and nicer. Makes me rethink if I shouldn?t take another look at my . . . well, let us still call it <<kit>>.
Well, you can call it a 'kit' if you like ;)
Mike
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Hi all,
The two photographs of 121.57 I have and a colour profile show that this aircraft had the later 'Balkenkreuz', straight-armed cross markings.
The requirement to change to this type of marking was introduced during 1918, to replace the earlier 'Eisernekrueze' iron crosses.
However, not all aircraft markings had been changed before the Armistice.
The photographs of 121.57 with the 'Balkenkreuz' markings on were taken late in WW1 following a flying accident.
Earlier, aircraft would have had the 'Cross Patt'e' (Iron Cross) markings as shown on 121.27, 121.36 and 121.55.
I chose to apply those markings rather than the later 'Balkenkreuz' markings.
It should be noted that the markings on the upper wing and rudder had white borders. The markings on the lower wings were black only, with no border.
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/121.27.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/121.36.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/121.55.jpg)
The following decals were from my decal 'spares' collection from other built models:
'Balkenkreuz' markings.
Fuselage data plates.
Interplane strut serial numbers.
Rudder cable outlet surrounds (fuselage).
The following decals were sourced from online resources and the colour profile.
These were copied then prepared in 'Paint Shop Pro' software.
They were then printed on 'MDP' clear decal paper (laser decal paper), using my Canon LBP631Cw laser printer.
Laser printing means the decals do not require sealing before use, as would be the case if created on an inkjet printer.
Fuselage serial numbers.
Fuselage data legend.
'Phonix' company logo (rudder).
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/markings1.jpg)
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Mike
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Looking nicer and nicer. Makes me rethink if I shouldn?t take another look at my . . . well, let us still call it <<kit>>.
Well, you can call it a 'kit' if you like ;)
Mike
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Maybe not a Kit as we know it but you are certainly Taming the Beast! I love the fabric decals. You are accomplished at using them to your advantage!
RAGIII
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You're making a nice model out of this pretty rough kit. Great linen effect.
At least at the end, you will have a great model of an otherwise unavailable subject in 1/32.
Rather than compare it with WNW or CSM quality I'm just glad I've got the basis of a Phoenix two-seater, although when I'll get round to it goodness knows!
Great model
I think you were unfortunate in that decals weren't included: my one came with a few crosses although no unit markings etc.
Sandy
(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/6pkX72P_xl.jpg)
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You're making a nice model out of this pretty rough kit. Great linen effect.
At least at the end, you will have a great model of an otherwise unavailable subject in 1/32.
Rather than compare it with WNW or CSM quality I'm just glad I've got the basis of a Phoenix two-seater, although when I'll get round to it goodness knows!
Great model
I think you were unfortunate in that decals weren't included: my one came with a few crosses although no unit markings etc.
Sandy
Hi Sandy,
I think my kit was one of the first produced.
Your kit parts have a different resin colour, so maybe are of a better quality, although the design of the parts look the same.
Mike
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Fabric decals really add some life. Your build is making me want one in 1/48 scale...
Do "we" know anything about the KatModel 3D printed in 1/48?
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Fabric decals really add some life. Your build is making me want one in 1/48 scale...
Do "we" know anything about the KatModel 3D printed in 1/48?
Hi Allan,
Only that they have one.
It's possible that model was CAD up-scaled to 1:32nd scale.
If so it'll probably have the same build issues I've encountered,
Mike
https://katmodelshop.pl/pl/c/148/59 (https://katmodelshop.pl/pl/c/148/59)
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Hi all,
A few more progress shots.
I had already test fitted then painted the two engine side access panels.
However, once the engine had been fitted I realized that these panels were not going to align to themselves or the fuselage.
So I secured them in position using 'Araldite' two-part epoxy adhesive, as I needed the bond to be strong.
I then sanded both access panels until they aligned correctly.
Then I masked off the two grey colours, re-primed and re-painted the panels.
I represented the panel fasteners on the rear edges and hinge plates around both panels (not on the kit).
Also added a metal mesh to the rear of the over wing radiator, stack pipe in the radiator cap and a pilots windscreen.
The parts were then weathered using 'Flory Models' Dark Dirt clay wash, 'Tamiya' Weathering Masters (Set A and D).
Finally a clear coat of 'Tamiya' Semi_Gloss (X35) war airbrushed to seal it all in.
So, time to move on to the pre-rigging stage,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/PHONIX-C1/paintdone1.jpg)
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Home stretch now !!!
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Oh WoW that's looking really good now.
Alan.
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Very high quality wheathering Mike!
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Hi all,
How about this kit supplied 3D printed propeller ::)
Needless to say, it will be replaced with a suitably modified propeller from my spares collection ;)
Mike
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How about this kit supplied 3D printed propeller ::)
I think that was designed to improve the plane's turning ability........ ;) ;D
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Hi all,
Just a quick update.
The landing gear is done.
I added 0.5 mm diameter 'wrapping' bars for the suspension cords into the front and rear of the landing gear struts.
The 'bungee' type axle suspension cord is 'EZ' White line (Heavy) wrapped over and around the bars and axle ends and secured with thin CA adhesive.
Then given a wash of 'AK Interactive' Kerosene wash.
The wheels are replacements from my spares as the kit 3D printed wheels were I think, a bit too thick and had a heavy layer line completely across the wheels.
The wheel covers were white based with black quarters on the outer covers.
The inboard covers then had ?Aviattic? WW1 CDL (aged varnish) (ATT32094) decal applied.
The outboard had ?Aviattic? Linen Weave effect (ATT32236) decal applied.
I still have to weather the wheels,
Mike
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Hi all,
The landing gear has been weathered using 'Flory Models' Grime clay wash.
Also the kit supplied 3D printed propeller has been replaced with a modified propeller from my 'spares' collection.
It was base coated with 'Tamiya' Dark Yellow (XF60) with ?Windsor & Newton? Griffin Alkyd Dark Umber oil paint brushed over the blades.
The hub plates were brush painted with 'Mr.Color' Stainless Steel with 'AK Interactive' Kerosene wash applied.
Now it's onto the pre-rigging stage,
Mike
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Would you tell which spare wheels exactly you have used? I like the awkward look of the Phoenix very much, what I do not like is this kit. My stash sadly is too big to be ashamed at all if I would not build it at all, but never say never?
Andreas
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Would you tell which spare wheels exactly you have used? I like the awkward look of the Phoenix very much, what I do not like is this kit. My stash sadly is too big to be ashamed at all if I would not build it at all, but never say never?
Andreas
Hi Andreas,
Although the 3D printed wheels supplied in the kit were adequate, they did have pronounced print lines across them.
Therefore, I chose to replace them with 'Proper Plane' Continental 760x100 wheels (RW-002).
These are supplied without the wheel front covers, but appropriate covers were used from my 'spares' collection.
The centres were drilled out to 2.0 mm diameter to fit onto the modified axle ends,
Mike
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Mike,
You ever get the feeling ?I?m really glad he started building this kit? ? I get it every time you update this build. I have a 1/72 vaccuform model of this Phonix. This is tremendous reference for me and inspiring me to start one soon.
All the best,
Tim
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If I find something I really like and know I will want it for something else, I've taken to making a mold so I can cast it up again in the future.
I only had 1 Bf-109 wheel in 1/24 and I needed 4.
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I have a set of Eduard DV wheel/tire I will need soon.
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Hi all,
I've pre-rigged the upper wing, fuselage, ailerons, rudder and elevator.
Structural rigging is 0.12 mm diameter mono-filament Gaspatch 1/48th scale metal Anchor Points and blackened 0.5 mm diameter tube.
Control cables rigging is 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament and blackened 0.4 mm diameter tube.
Now it's onto fitting the upper wing!!
Mike
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Hi all,
Well, the upper wing is fitted.
There is some slight distortion towards the outer sections of the wing.
However, I think that could be caused by the softer resin used for the wings and it being pulled down by the retaining elastic bands.
I guess we'll see once I've rigged the wings and removed the elastic bands!!
Mike
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That?s looking amazing Mike. Such a rare bird too!
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Excellent work Mike, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's just those rubber bands causing the slight wing warp....
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Excellent work Mike, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's just those rubber bands causing the slight wing warp....
Hi Nigel,
I've replaced those elastic bands with narrower ones, which helps.
Also, I needed to re-instate the dihedral on the lower wings, which got reduced when fitting the upper wing.
Still not perfect, but then neither is the kit :o
Mike
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Hi all,
The structural and controls rigging is completed.
Just the last few bits to fit now:
Observers machine gun
Engine radiator pipes
External wireless aerial weight
External strut mounted Anemometer
External flare rack
Propeller.
Then it's onto the figures and display case,
Mike
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BEAUTIFUL!!!
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Amazing! You have turned a jumble of ill-fitting parts into a beautiful and accurate model. Bravo!
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Hi all,
The basic model is now finished.
I've added the last few items:
Observers machine gun
Propeller
Engine radiator pipes
Auxiliary fuel tank transfer pipes
External Anemometer
Observers flare rack.
Now it's onto the figures,
Mike
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Brilliant! A real silk purse from a pig's ear.
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Stunning model.
I've got the base kit: I know it will never look as good as this.
Master modelling.
Sandy
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Hi all,
The figure is the ?Kellerkind Miniaturen? German mechanic (54/101), which I've slightly modified.
Well, that's it for this model.
Once the display base is finished I'll post final reveal shots.
Many thanks for your comments and support throughout this rather challenging build.
Mike
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Hi all,
Final shots now up in the 'Completed Models' page,
Mike