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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Mike Norris (UK) on June 23, 2023, 07:19:53 AM
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Hi all,
Posted in FB by Lukgraph today,
Mike
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Oh Jaysus! This is going to cost me a fortune!🤣
Bob
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Neat! That Jenny is going to take up a fair amount of shelf space, it’ll have a 16”-plus span in 1:32. But they were awesome planes.
Dave V.
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My personal favourites are the Hanriots and the Jenny.
I've starting collecting cans....
Willem
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I happened to hear earlier from Łukasz directly about SOME of those plans. But seeing this full compilation made me speechless... :o :o :o
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Mixed feelings. They do great work but their kits are $$$. I hoped CSM would do some of those announced. Suppose I'm just lazy and don't want the extra hassle of a complete resin if there's another option. Does that make me strictly commercial FZ? I will watch Mike, Prez and Borso build them....vicarious model building...
Steve
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Mixed feelings. They do great work but their kits are $$$. I hoped CSM would do some of those announced. Suppose I'm just lazy and don't want the extra hassle of a complete resin if there's another option. Does that make me strictly commercial FZ? I will watch Mike, Prez and Borso build them....vicarious model building...
Steve
You are not alone on with any of your thoughts Steve! I am however, going to try to save up for the Halberstadt DII as it fits into My Jasta 4 birds. Hopefully as these are Limited Run and $$$ CSM won't scrap any plans if they had/haver them. Roden and or Special Hobby also!
RAGIII
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I understand yor mixed feelings, gentlemen. But then, I am glad to see these plans and I doubt they will change anything in CSM, Roden or SH release plans. I am certain that if any of these kits appeared in injection version they would find the buyers. Yet, seeing the rate at which such kits appear after the WNW demise, the Lukgraph ones will have their time in the market, even though they will not sell in hundreds of copies due to their price and resin intricacies.
As for me I have gathered a stash of 12 WNW and 4 Lukgraph kits including the freshly delivered Oeffag. That will make me busy for 3 years at least. And I regret to say I will not buy any of these announcements, maybe with an exception of a Phoenix.
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I’ll keep waiting on the 1/72 releases. 😂
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HD.1 and Jenny are real wishlist items for me, and I've had a hankering for a Halberstadt D.II. Brilliant news!!
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At least one Hanriot,Halberstadt and Phonix for me, probably a Jenny too-happy days!
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Hi all,
I think the release of the Phonix D.I might spell doom for the projected 'KatModels' release.
This rate of releases in both scales just proves how quick it can be to 3D print parts, including the masters for resin molded parts.
I guess it's down to the individual to decide if the cost and parts content of these kits are worthwhile by comparison to similar traditional injection molded kits.
Where 'Lukgraph' score is in producing aircraft models not released by any company in the past and cost aside, that will always attract customers,
Mike
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OH LORD have mercy. A Jenny finally in 32nd. Be still my beating heart.
I really had hopes that ICM would do one of these in injected plastic. BUT If Lukegraph is going to do one then I'm pretty sure I shall have to cave in and buy one.
Russ
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Hi all,
I have and will continue to order models created by 'Lukgraph'.
Primarily because they are producing aircraft never released before.
However, one concern I have is that other companies may feel it's no longer viable to spend considerable amounts of money creating injection kits.
Especially given how many kits can be produced in one year using 3D printing, such as 'Lukgraph' are able to do.
It takes time to create injection kits from such as 'Copper State Models', 'Roden' and 'Aviattic' for example.
Fingers crossed we continue to have aircraft models from these companies and we are not restricted to just those models created only by 3D printing,
Mike
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Interesting point, Mike. With costs being what they are for injection moulded kits I can only assume some popular choices may be viable for injection moulding. That said, CSM seem, other than the Nieuport series, to do some rather unexpected ones such as the Scout and hopefully in the future the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I.
Maybe I'm overly pessimistic, but the market for 1/32 scale WWI models, isn't all that big as as a whole, and other than maybe the Hanriot, I can't really see any of these subjects making a lot of money in injection moulded form.
I always had the feeling, seeing how fine some of the detail in their 1/72 models is, Roden could do much more complex and detailed models in 1/32, but there's probably a price to which they adhere to make it a viable project for them.
That said, 3D/Resin isn't anyones cup of tea, both in €€ but also the material itself, and even with the upcoming Lukgraph kit of say the Hanriot, my totally uneducated guess is a Roden 1/32 Hanriot might still do well enough should they decide to persue that?
Fortunately for me, most subjects on this list don't do a lot for me, except the Phönixes... :o
Jeroen
PS given the comments on Facebook on this news by Lukgraph, they're not quite done yet, also for next year. I don't do Facebook so I can't comment there, but might we see a Breguet XIV, Albatros C.X, or a Fokker C.I ?? :D
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I'm with Steve and Rick on this: not too excited about hyper-expensive short-run resin/3D renderings of these fairly mainstream types. It worries me that this plan might put off, say CSM or Roden, from giving us a good Hanriot, Oeffag Alb, Halb D.II or Phoenix at the 60GBP price point. It strikes me a bit like the wee boy that licks his hand and touches the best cake on the table saying, "Bagsie this one for me", so nobody else can have it. (Fair does to Lukgraph though, they certainly do deliver timeously on their promises!)
I can afford the price, but I've got 60 or 70 unmade WNW, Aviattic, CSM quality kits in the stash and probably more than I can make before the hands and eyes give up on me and, while I've just bought a Roden Strutter and a CSM Bristol, I won't splash out 200GBP for a kit I'll probably never make. Makes sense for the likes of Mike with his phenomenal build rate, but I'm much too slow. At 200GBP you really have to do the kit full justice with all the detail bells and whistles, whereas at 60GBP I'll happily kitbash an OOB non-competition-entrant purely for my own pleasure.
I'm sure they'll sell the limited run, but please, CSM and Roden, I'd still buy a Hanriot or an Oeffag from you.
Sandy
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It's fantastic to see Lukgraph cranking out such interesting variants (especially the German and Austro-Hungarian birds). An Albatros C.X, Breguet, and other two-seater types would be most welcome.
Jason