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Title: Making linen color
Post by: Jas32596 on October 11, 2022, 10:22:35 AM
Good evening all,
This is my first post as I've just joined this forum. I was wondering if anyone had any tips or tricks on how to get a linen color or close to one. I'm currently building a Roden Spad VII
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Rob Hart on October 11, 2022, 10:50:35 AM
My formula is 9 x Tamiya White acrylic X2 (or XF2 if you prefer flat paint) and 1x Tamiya Acrylic Dark Yellow XF88. See Nieuport 10 in "Completed Models" for results.

I also recommend perusing the kit instruction sheets on the Wingnut Wings website for other recommendations.

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: DaddyO on October 11, 2022, 05:36:58 PM
Lots of variations in colour so you'll have a fair bit of leeway for whatever you use. The wingnut site gives lots of references and is a good shout by Rob

NB - It's worth noting that the French started mixing silver dope to their covering dope at some point (I can't remember the date off the top of my head) This gave a slightly different hue to 'normal' doped linen; more a biscuit/pale coffee/cream colour.

Whatever colour you use make sure you mix enough for touch ups later on  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: torbiorn on October 11, 2022, 08:16:52 PM
I used to use various mixes of colours, but due to what above poster mentioned about touch-ups, I just went and bought all linen-like colours of the paint line I use (Vallejo model air) to make touch ups easier. As mentioned, the actual shade varied quite a bit so there is no need to get too nerdy about it - I use different shades on different models (and often several on the same model) to get some variation.

The creamy colour on the SPAD 7 is a bit different from the ”natural” linen though.
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: KiwiZac on October 12, 2022, 04:34:26 AM
I too like to refer to Wingnut Wings instructions as a "bible" of sorts. I use Tamiya acrylics (eg XF-55 for RFC clear-doped linen) which makes following their lead easier.
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Thumbs up on October 12, 2022, 04:55:14 AM
I use tea to stain white primer,no milk or sugar ;)
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Rob Hart on October 12, 2022, 06:44:52 AM
I use tea to stain white primer,no milk or sugar ;)


That's interesting. I made need to investigate. Any particular tea?
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2022, 07:21:10 AM
I used to use various mixes of colours, but due to what above poster mentioned about touch-ups, I just went and bought all linen-like colours of the paint line I use (Vallejo model air) to make touch ups easier. As mentioned, the actual shade varied quite a bit so there is no need to get too nerdy about it - I use different shades on different models (and often several on the same model) to get some variation.

The creamy colour on the SPAD 7 is a bit different from the ”natural” linen though.

Yep, I agree totally! The "Yellow Period" is certainly different from the "CDL" birds. As for SPAD VII aircraft there are examples of both. Early ones like Guynemer were most likely CDL but I am not sure. I am including a link to One of My SPAD builds. There is another link inside this thread  8) IHTH,
RAGIII
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13205.0
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Thumbs up on October 12, 2022, 09:36:48 AM
I use tea to stain white primer,no milk or sugar ;)


That's interesting. I made need to investigate. Any particular tea?

Yorkshire strong brew will give you a good colour.
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Dave W on October 12, 2022, 10:44:20 AM
As a brush painter I use Citadel paints Flayed One Flesh for CDL. Depending on the aircraft it can be darkened or lightened but the base paint is a good basic clear doped linen.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: Allan31 on October 30, 2022, 04:20:51 AM
Awhile ago, I found on the www some FS code for CDL, FS 33695, this is available from Vallejo as there 71.074 Beige.

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hope this helps....

Title: Re: Making linen color
Post by: enathan on October 30, 2022, 09:33:22 AM
I use tea to stain white primer,no milk or sugar ;)


That's interesting. I made need to investigate. Any particular tea?

- Don't use Earl Grey  ;D  ;)