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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on June 06, 2022, 06:47:15 PM
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This is another long overdue project, planned for years, right after the release of Halberstadt kits.
Finally, I gathered together the photos (recently published book on German aircraft in Polish early aviation), the decals for individual markings and Aviattic cookie-cut losenge, Taurus resin bits for Mercedes engine, HGW textile seat belts as well as the empty space in my workshop.
(https://i.ibb.co/cbzVfHk/Halberstadt-CL-II-nr-201-18-14-EW.png)
The work started on cockpit and engine bits. Very little will be added to the cockpit, just a few control lines and fuel switches for the instrument panel.
And yes, my feeling from the time just after the release of this kit is now confirmed. The plastic quality of those very late WNW kits is clearly worsened. The edges are not sharp, the border between the element and the flash is vague, the fit is not so excellent - here I had problems with the right-hand side truss not matching the pin on the fuselage. But of course it is nothing a mid-skilled modeller cannot overcome with some basic work with sand paper. Just saying, there were already some signs that something was rotting in the Kingdom of Denmark...
After cleaning, airbrushing and decalling I have started the assembly but there will be some wash added to emphasize the details.
(https://i.ibb.co/vs8hws2/20220605-191510.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zF1pYTk/20220605-191450.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/m5tdv4P/20220606-081534.jpg)
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I take a seat in the first row...
:-)
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Make a little room for me in the front row seat @andonio64 ;)
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And I'll bring along some Popcorn..! 😁
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I don't care what row I'm in. Just really glad to see another Prz build.
Alan.
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Ooh! Another quality build in progress! Looking forward to this one, Przemo! Looking good so far... Interesting colour scheme and any idea about the scrumbled (scrambled?) colours on the fuselage, Przemo? Regards, Marc.
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Thank you, all. Your trust in me is so flattering...
Marc, the current wisdom from the newest book, I mentioned:
https://dlapilota.pl/wiadomosci/polska/ksiazka-niemieckie-samoloty-wojskowe-w-lotnictwie-polskim-1918-1924
indicates the natural wood fuselage with traces of unscraped paint, possibly dark green. BTW, my example adorns the book cover.
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Watching with great interest!
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This will be a good one.
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Hope I'm not late for a ticket ;D
Giuseppe
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Hi,
Really, the WnW kits got not so good at the end ?
I'm going to follow, sure. ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
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Thank you.
Hi,
Really, the WnW kits got not so good at the end ?
I'm going to follow, sure. ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
If it were not WNW I would not even mention it. But having built over 30 their kits I can make some comparison. And IMHO Gotha G.1 and now this Halberstadt are clearly less perfect than, Bristol Fighter DH.9 or DFW C.V.
And some more work done on the interior
(https://i.ibb.co/4YYjLdQ/USER-SCOPED-TEMP-DATA-orca-image-96517516.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gZRWryr/received-532359991888663.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tty6hdg/received-749863299363774.jpg)
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Another outstanding build underway! As always your interior looks Fantastic!
RAGIII
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If it were not WNW I would not even mention it. But having built over 30 their kits I can make some comparison. And IMHO Gotha G.1 and now this Halberstadt are clearly less perfect than, Bristol Fighter DH.9 or DFW C.V.
These, or very similar statements, I have heard from other wingnut modelers as well.
Which of the many Wingnut-kits was in your opinion the best? @PrzemoL
Servus
Bertl
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Thank you Rick.
If it were not WNW I would not even mention it. But having built over 30 their kits I can make some comparison. And IMHO Gotha G.1 and now this Halberstadt are clearly less perfect than, Bristol Fighter DH.9 or DFW C.V.
These, or very similar statements, I have heard from other wingnut modelers as well.
Which of the many Wingnut-kits was in your opinion the best? @PrzemoL
Servus
Bertl
Bertl, it is a hard choice, but taking into account the level of detail, fit and the complexity combined with the model size I would place my vote for Felixstowe.
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That's very interesting, Prze. I'm sure you'll turn this model into one of your excellent builds.
After reading what you've written here, I checked my two Halberstadt kits...and yes - I can see softer detail on the parts. Not quite the same sharpness as earlier kits.
Happy to watch your progress here, and you've made a great start.
Cheers,
Gary
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Agreed. I've built some wingnuts and Gotha G.I doesn't meet standards of the others.
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I have built one Halberstadt and I didn’t have any difficulties besides of those caused by my own. So I would not agree that the Halberstadt kit declines in quality compared to e. g. the DFW, the Fe2b, the Sopwith Pup or the Albatros B. II (to name those I also have built yet).
Andreas
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Leaving the issue of quality aside, let me report the completed cockpit...
(https://i.ibb.co/gm9Pkmz/20220613-234051.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SywXtQd/20220613-234039.jpg)
... and the beginning of work on Mercedes.
(https://i.ibb.co/kHpRzpJ/20220613-234026.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RjWNtbp/20220613-234014.jpg)
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The cockpit looks nice and tidy and a good start on the engine.
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Beautiful work. Taking an "average" WNW kit and making it a masterpiece!!
Steve
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Lovely work Przemol!
RAGIII
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Thanks.
The work on electricity at one side underway.
(https://i.ibb.co/f0WdBHg/20220614-201106.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RQBf6c7/20220614-213237.jpg)
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Awesome wiring!
RAGIII
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More progress till the dry-closing of the fuselage.
(https://i.ibb.co/jzDrTKv/20220615-221520.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/F8dFpmh/20220615-221548.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/X8Pkw93/20220616-130454.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PjxTVKr/20220616-130511.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PD5p6wW/20220620-170421.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Qnrzx0f/20220620-170611.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qg3vcpH/20220620-170715.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/99QyPYS/20220620-172206.jpg)
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Moving along very nicely Prze :)
Alexis
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Hear hear, it's all coming together very nicely.
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Really looking Awesome...but then that is your Norm!
RAGIII
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Another reference thread for when I get to mine eventually -even though I'm not supposed to know I have one yet! :)
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Top notch work, Przemol. This will look excellent when completed.
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Very nice Prze!
WD
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Thank you.
The fuselage closed, together with engine covers. Some tweeking was necessary to enclose the nose but finally it was easier than I expected. The worst places are at the front cockpit coaming where the rear engine panels touch the fuselage halves. Some tricky sanding will be necessary there, not to damage the fine detail.
(https://i.ibb.co/g92fGvM/20220623-230616.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/x2c520x/20220623-230556.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/C8p4JcB/20220623-230542.jpg)
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Looks like you have succeeded in a perfect fit!!
Steve
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Shaping up nicely, Prze. I'm taking notes on your build - thanks for sharing the stories about the tricky parts :)
Cheers,
Gary
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Taking notes as well for the one sitting in the stash .
Alexis
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Looking great, Prze! ;)
Thanks for sharing
Bob
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It is now a phase of the tedious and little spectacular work. Cleaning of the seams and polishing of the wings and stabilisers surfaces in preparation for Aviattic transparent losenge decals.
And in between some more interesting bits. Like the unusual exhaust which I am building from a spare bit. It was destined for a larger engine so I had to cut off and shorten all six pipes, fill the holes and narrow the chimney. Test fit successful but it also shows a collision with the front cooling pipe (not present in the photos) which will need to be reshaped and rerouted, but that later.
(https://i.ibb.co/1QZtgwR/20220626-181234.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SB73kZ3/20220630-214119.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dr8t0n7/20220630-214302.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DDzVJSk/20220630-214317.jpg)
Also, the test fit of the composite stabiliser-elevator element to the fuselage showed that the elevator will be warped. The only remedy I saw was to cut off the elevator and widen a bit the gaps for the hinges to give it some more space to adjust to the shape of the stabiliser. Problem solved.
(https://i.ibb.co/5TMgG5v/20220630-214132.jpg)
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Amazing work Prze!
WD
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Nice work on the exhaust :)
Alexis
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Beautifully Done on all Przemo!
RAGIII
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This will be another masterpiece ! I like your clean and accurate modeling
Jörg
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Finally back to this project. All the parts are cleaned, this included polishing down the surfaces of wings in preparation for transparent losenge decals.
Colouring started. White background will be also shaded with greyish along the ribs. First wood panels done.
And a small detailing amendment - Polish 201/18 had one more inspection at the engine left side, so I scratched the missing cover from a plastic slice and a couple of metal fittings.
(https://i.ibb.co/w7MNGp0/20220806-180447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/njTtnbB/20220806-180506.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2ZFZ4FJ/20220806-180547.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/51LnSPg/20220806-180616.jpg)
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Looking good Prze , very nice wooden effect on the cowl panels .
Alexis
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Thank you, Alexis.
More progress... Fuselage wood painted and Aviattic losenge applied.
(https://i.ibb.co/PDrfykz/20220814-225527.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/myJk5Dg/20220814-225506.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wd4vZsY/20220814-225358.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/c6DpMZN/20220814-225333.jpg)
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Looking SO beautiful!!
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Continuing with the lower wings, the traces of repairs...
(https://i.ibb.co/pZ3P2D5/20220815-174748.jpg)
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Lovely work Prze!
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Very nice sheen on the lozenge!
/Fredrik
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Don't know what repair you are tracing but the Lozenge looks awesome to Me!
RAGIII
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Thank you.
Don't know what repair you are tracing but the Lozenge looks awesome to Me!
RAGIII
Rick, I meant this
(https://i.ibb.co/1QZ51fk/20220816-110632.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5Fjmv1m/20220816-110625.jpg)
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Thumbs up !
Alexis
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Thank you.
Don't know what repair you are tracing but the Lozenge looks awesome to Me!
RAGIII
Rick, I meant this
(https://i.ibb.co/1QZ51fk/20220816-110632.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5Fjmv1m/20220816-110625.jpg)
Aha! Now I see 8)
RAGIII
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Holidays, hot weather... the build is very slow but here is finally some progress to show.
The decals with markings applied. And the veneer layers from Kotebi for the wooden Axial propeller glued together and sealed with CA glue - ready for carving.
(https://i.ibb.co/hXpTc9T/20220829-211218.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zx3yYKG/20220829-211329.jpg)
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A few steps forward.
Fuselage fittings and metal panels are being painted grey-green. Propeller completed. Work on the u/c underway - here some cheating will take place, the tyres are Conti obtained from the kit parts with interior cut off slice after slice, whereas the spokes are from Gaspatch but Palmer Cord... I will have to live with this inaccuracy.
(https://i.ibb.co/SVYQK89/20220902-000519.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/TMqjRhg/20220901-232609.jpg)
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Wow! That is looking awesome! I really like the wood color you have chosen. Excellent prop and wheels also.
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Amazing work, as always Prze. That propeller looks fantastic.
Cheers,
Gary
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Polishing them wings really pays of.
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Wow!
The propeller is just awesome :o
Excellent!!
The representation of the fabric repair on the wing ribs looks very good.
A question @PrzemoL, how much work is that, or to put it another way, how difficult is it to carve the propeller?
I have always colored them with colored pencils, a tedious and time-consuming work.
Servus
Bertl
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Thank you!
Bertl, I think carving the prop from veneers is not difficult, IMHO much easier than painting. And I have never achieved so nice results with paints or pencils.
I use the veneers from Kotebi cut to the prop profile shape. I glue the layers together with a carpenters glue. Then soak the laminate with liquid CA glue. After all this is dried carving itself takes me no more than half an hour per one blade. The veneer is quite soft, I use the sharp Excel knife for coarse cutting and then sanding paper 150, 300 and 600 to get the final polished shape..
I am sure, seeing your amazing modeling, that if I can make those props, the more you will have no problems with it.
You can buy the veneers here:
https://kotebi.eu/skala-1-32-1-33-1-35/6600-smiglo-axial-kotebi-ktb032930.html
I can also help you in contact with the shopkeeper.
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Thank you!
Bertl, I think carving the prop from veneers is not difficult, IMHO much easier than painting. And I have never achieved so nice results with paints or pencils.
I use the veneers from Kotebi cut to the prop profile shape. I glue the layers together with a carpenters glue. Then soak the laminate with liquid CA glue. After all this is dried carving itself takes me no more than half an hour per one blade. The veneer is quite soft, I use the sharp Excel knife for coarse cutting and then sanding paper 150, 300 and 600 to get the final polished shape..
I am sure, seeing your amazing modeling, that if I can make those props, the more you will have no problems with it.
You can buy the veneers here:
https://kotebi.eu/skala-1-32-1-33-1-35/6600-smiglo-axial-kotebi-ktb032930.html
I can also help you in contact with the shopkeeper.
Thank you very much for the very good explanation, @PrzemoL.
Your words make carving a propeller seem very simple. ;)
Also many thanks for the link, I will follow it.
Greetings
Bertl
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Bertl, I am looking forward to see your carved propelers...
My work on this longish build finally enters the last stages of assembly and rigging.
(https://i.ibb.co/J5R5tQL/20220917-214218.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/yFwjGSg/20220917-214230.jpg)
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Truly loving this build , just outstanding craftsmanship . Looking forward to the next up date :) :) :)
Alexis
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Thank you, Alexis.
And here you are...
Closer...
(https://i.ibb.co/NZ2H2sB/20220919-192218.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cg7LvPz/20220919-192258.jpg)
and closer
(https://i.ibb.co/SJ0SpjC/20220919-214335.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gJpDBHW/20220919-214308.jpg)
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Utterly beautiful work Prze. I always enjoy your updates!
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A couple of quick poor photos at the last pause in this project. Tonight the remaining 6 stagger lines will be added and propeller glued for good to complete this model. Thanks for watching.
(https://i.ibb.co/hDbsY4s/20220921-081210.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sVxqZbL/20220921-081122.jpg)
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That’s absolutely superb. I love it.
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Complete. A couple of quick shots here, proper gallery soon.
(https://i.ibb.co/bvpjFWd/20220921-163329.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/F6py4Vc/20220921-163303.jpg)
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Absolutely brilliant, Prze. Your model turned out beautifully. This build was so inspirational I have moved my Halberstadt to the top of my “must build” list of WnW kits.
Cheers,
Gary
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Magnificent build Prze. You have really captured the fragile look of this machine. I appreciate the post war colors. Don’t get to see these modeled very often.
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I am sorry for My lack of comments for a while. Some Personal stuff has had me looking but not posting much. Your work on this one is More than your usual beautiful work. The wood grain is Brilliant as is all of the rest!
RAGIII