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Title: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: rfindley on April 30, 2022, 12:23:36 PM
Eduard has released Siempelkamp's "Tatzelwurm" Pfalz as a weekend edition.  Eduard & Peddinghaus decal profiles show this aircraft with a yellow nose.  Pheon Decals show an all-green fuselage.

There also is a disagreement as to whether the upper wing surface was painted green or 5-color lozenge.

Any suggestions, opinions or other source observations?  I really like the yellow nose profile.

TIA

Rick in Virginia
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: Rob_Owens on May 06, 2022, 04:59:06 PM
Bruno Schmaeling’s Jasta Colors Volume 1 Profile 49 (p. 199) & photos (p.197-200) show yellow nose with Loz on upper/lower surfaces of both wings and stabilizer.
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: rhwinter on May 06, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
Schmaeling probably is the way to go, as he derived his information from the pilots he interviewed personally.
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: rfindley on May 22, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
Thanks for the reply.  I may have to step up for Schmaeling’s Jasta Colors.   Thanks again
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 08, 2022, 04:12:05 AM
Thanks for the reply.  I may have to step up for Schmaeling’s Jasta Colors.   Thanks again



Definitely worth getting his Book !
Ed
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: RedLeader1 on May 04, 2024, 12:15:15 PM
I have both volumes and they are worth it to my studies.
Thanks for the reply.  I may have to step up for Schmaeling’s Jasta Colors.   Thanks again
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: Tim Mixon on May 10, 2024, 10:27:04 PM
I’m not sure about the actual color scheme of this aircraft but agree with Rick on liking the yellow nose and lozenge wings. I have the 1/72 Peddinghaus decal set and will be interested in watching your progress if you should consider posting in progress pics.

Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: RedLeader1 on August 04, 2024, 10:40:01 PM
Jasta 29 definitely yellow cowl & nose area, mid green upper fuselage & tail. Black and white belly stripes (or in the case of  the Pfalz D.IIIa aircraft just black stripes on silbergrau.
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: Dubar on September 07, 2024, 09:20:23 PM
Found a color reference drawing and actual photos of Siempelkamp's plane here:

https://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft25481.htm (https://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft25481.htm)

Just scroll down the page until you see the paper dragon images.

I purchased both of Schmaeling’s Jasta Colors books several months back, excellent reference material!!!
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: Rob_Owens on December 10, 2024, 02:52:29 PM
Jasta 29 definitely yellow cowl & nose area, mid green upper fuselage & tail. Black and white belly stripes (or in the case of  the Pfalz D.IIIa aircraft just black stripes on silbergrau.

Interesting that this photo suggests the yellow nose demarcation (just over the pilot's right shoulder and aft of the aircraft's cabane strut) is much narrower than the profile in Schmaeling's book
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: atelier.brunt on December 18, 2024, 12:11:11 AM
Jasta 29 definitely yellow cowl & nose area, mid green upper fuselage & tail. Black and white belly stripes (or in the case of  the Pfalz D.IIIa aircraft just black stripes on silbergrau.

Interesting that this photo suggests the yellow nose demarcation (just over the pilot's right shoulder and aft of the aircraft's cabane strut) is much narrower than the profile in Schmaeling's book
the darker band your talking about on the fuselage is most probably the shadow of the upper wing and not a demarcation of color. As Schmaeling explains in the book the color demarcation is nearly impossible to distinguish between the green and the yellow without tinkering with the photo. Thats why originally it was thought this aircraft was one solid color (green).
Title: Re: Ltn Eugen Siempelkamp's Pfalz
Post by: RedLeader1 on January 07, 2025, 02:34:38 AM
That is the top wing shadow.