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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: pustota on April 27, 2022, 08:27:48 PM

Title: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on April 27, 2022, 08:27:48 PM
Good day.
Today after a long brake i'd like to share a pictures from my recent build.
Hope you'll like it. 
 "As early as 1912 both the War Office and Admiralty had expressed concern that no British engine manufacturer was yet working on an engine which promised high power with reliability. During the following year Louis Coatalen at the Sunbeam Motor Car Company was commissioned by the Admiralty to start on an adaptation of his successful three-liter racing car engine, producing an eight-cylinder liquid-cooled in-line V-engine of 150 hp (later named the Nubian) and a twelve-cylinder V-engine of 225 hp.

The first examples of these engines, roughly equivalent in power and weight to the Salmson nine- and fourteen-cylinder liquid-cooled radials (which were being purchased in small numbers from France), were not ready by the outbreak of war. In anticipation of deliveries, however, the Admiralty had during the early summer of 1914 ordered twelve new reconnaissance bomber seaplanes from Short Brothers, Rochester, Kent, similar in most respects to the Type 166. It had a provision to mount one Lewis gun on rear cockpit, and a bomb load of two 112 lb (51 kg) or four 65 lb (29 kg) could be carried on underwing racks.

Six of these single-engine, two-seat, two-bay, twin-float biplanes, referred to as Admiralty Type 830 (s/n 819 to 821 and 828 to 830, c/n S.108 to S.110 and S.117 to S.119), were powered by the 135 hp Salmson liquid-cooled radial engine, while the balance, referred to as Admiralty Type 827 (s/n 822 to 827, c/n S.111 to S.116), featured the 150 hp Sunbeam Nubian.

By the time these seaplanes were being completed at the end of 1914, the Admiralty was beginning to express a preference for bombs, and neither the Type 827 nor 830 had provision to carry torpedoes. Moreover, despite its slightly inferior performance, it was the Type 827, with its indigenous Sunbeam engine, that was selected for the greater production.

Sub-contracts were placed with The Brush Electrical Engineering Co. Ltd., Loughborough (s/n 3321 to 3332 and 8230 to 8237), The Fairey Aviation Co. Ltd., Hayes, Middlesex (s/n 8550 to 8561, c/n F.4 to F.15), Parnall & Sons Ltd., Eastville, Bristol (s/n 8218 to 8229 and 8250 to 8257) and The Sunbeam Motor Car Co. Ltd., Wolverhampton (s/n 8630 to 8649) for a total of 72 aircraft. In addition to twelve Type 830s (s/n 1335 to 1346, c/n S.131 to S.142), thirty further Type 827s were ordered from Short (s/n 3093 to 3112 and 3063 to 3072, c/n S.143 to S.172), which switched production from Eastchurch to Rochester.

Following shipboard trials by s/n 824 and 826 with HMS Campania in June 1915, Type 827s began delivery to the RNAS Stations at Calshot, Dundee, Grain, Great Yarmouth and Killingholme, being equipped to carry a pair of 112 lb bombs for coastal patrol duties. When Lowestoft and Southwold were shelled by warships of the German High Seas Fleet in April 1916, a Short 827 was among the British seaplanes which attacked the enemy ships with bombs.

Three Short 827s were shipped to East Africa to spot for British naval guns operating against the German warship Konigsberg trapped in the Rufiji delta, but arrived too late to take part; they were therefore sent on to Mesopotamia where two of them, converted as landplanes with wheel landing gears, flew bombing attacks on the Turkish forces advancing on Kut in December 1915.

Another epic involved the use of four Short 827s, s/n 3093 to 3095 and 8219, which were handed over to Belgian volunteers who, in March 1916, were opposing German colonial forces on Lake Tanganyika. Dismantled and transported overland to Lake Tongwe, they were assembled and flown in May, and two months later bombed the German lake cruiser Graf von Goetzen in port at Kigoma, leading to the surrender of the town three days later.
In the UK, Short 827s remained in service until late in 1918."
                                                                                                                (Remarks by Johan Visschedijk 02/28/2014)


About the build: Classic resin, surprisingly good quality. Weighted, underfilling, caverns and bubbles were not. In terms of geometry, the model fits well into the schematic (I did not find intelligible drawings). The model is 95% out of the box, I just replaced all the racks with wire (floats and a biplane box). The model has two small inaccuracies: the radiator is noticeably smaller and the control was from the rear cabin (there is a mistake in the instructions). I did not hang bombs under the glider, even though they were in the kit. In two photos of the prototype, I did not notice the attachment of bombs.
Painting - acrylics from "Vallejo", "Tamiya" and "Hataka",AK interactive wheathering+ braces EZline.
Thank you. 
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Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: PrzemoL on April 27, 2022, 08:42:31 PM
What a spectacular build! We rarely see these models from Karaya being actually built. You have done a great job on it. My congratulations.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: DaveB on April 27, 2022, 08:48:17 PM
I agree with Prez -

Amazing work!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: Alexis on April 27, 2022, 11:36:53 PM
Very impressive build !


Alexis
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: lone modeller on April 28, 2022, 03:46:31 AM
That is a very impressive model of one of the less well known types. The finish is superb and very interesting indeed - and a tribute to your modelling skills.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on April 28, 2022, 05:23:15 AM
Thank to all of you for so kind words.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: KiwiZac on April 28, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
What a fascinating story and model - that colour scheme is so distinctive, what a nice change from CDL or a PC-x! Bravo!
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: enathan on April 28, 2022, 08:50:50 PM
Excellent work on an interesting subject. I have most of the Karaya 1/72 WW.I kits and it's inspiring to see one of them built.
Thank you for sharing. 
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: macsporran on April 29, 2022, 01:21:56 AM
Nice model
Sandy
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on April 29, 2022, 02:58:25 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: cduckworth on April 29, 2022, 09:31:41 PM
Very nice build!  I also read a review that the lower wing is short by one rib station. The reviewer didn’t mention the radiator being too small.  I’ve noticed on my older builds that the EZ line is breaking on its own so I’m switching over to fishing line.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: RAGIII on April 29, 2022, 09:47:27 PM
Beautifully done in all aspects. Terrific Model of a rare subject and kit!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on April 29, 2022, 11:47:39 PM
Thank you.
Yes i also noticed lately that some of my early biplane models that was rigged with EZ line starts lost they wires, i thoth this is result of our middle east hot wheather (I'm from Haifa, Israel)....
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: IanB on May 01, 2022, 12:54:52 AM
Very nicely done! Wonderful to see a less common type and so well built.

Ian
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: Rookie on May 02, 2022, 03:00:48 AM
I've always thought this was one of the more interesting British floatplanes.

You have done a beautiful job Pustota!

Wonderful detailing and I love the weathering and the residue from the water on the floats.

Willem
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on May 02, 2022, 05:56:13 AM
Thank you, Willem!
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: masterKamera on May 02, 2022, 12:51:51 PM
wonderful plane model. Truly inspiring and at the same time, the weathering on it makes it look like some little pilot figure should be standing next to it saying "yep, been flying her for 20 years, no idea how shes survived so long"

Inspired me to look at the manufacturers website, but alas, they do their product lists in some sort of file download that is not a native/standard windows 10, nor do they make a statement of what to use to read it.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: Rookie on May 02, 2022, 01:06:25 PM
Maybe this will help?

https://modelbud.pl/pl/producer/Karaya/8

Willem
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: masterKamera on May 02, 2022, 03:54:07 PM
Maybe this will help?

https://modelbud.pl/pl/producer/Karaya/8

Willem

Oh it helps. But the enabling is not good, to much eye candy there.. and it makes me happy to see that the computer generated images dont match the photos of finished models that do show up on that site.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on May 02, 2022, 04:01:27 PM
https://polish-made.com/
Here you can find an almost full range of Karaya kits.
Payment with Paypal, shipping worldwide.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: WD on May 06, 2022, 11:44:26 AM
pustota,
             I cannot add any more superlatives that haven't already been mentioned. Just a wonderful build all around and what a neat and unusual subject.

WD
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 07, 2022, 08:08:50 AM
Very nicely done!
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: Edo on May 07, 2022, 04:08:33 PM
wow!
what a beauty!
Title: Re: Short admiralty type 830 (Karaya 1/72 resin kit)
Post by: pustota on May 09, 2022, 11:57:36 PM
Thank you, guys!