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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Scratch builds => Topic started by: Skyhook on April 15, 2022, 04:30:23 AM
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Hi again, after a long pause....
The world is crazy and we all probably can use some diversions now and then, so here’s one for the easter time! These are my projects under construction right now, in various states of construction. Can you guess what aircraft types they actually are trying to portray? One of them is easy (and German), all others are Austro-Hungarian and probably a lot harder to guess. One is very difficult, because it is in very early stages...I’ll settle for the type, designation optional.
No prizes, but you are a pretty good at identifying obscure types if you get most of them right :)
Cheers, Skyhook
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I see a DFW b1 a much wanted kit,a Lloyd c2 and maybe a couple of loners all vac kits?
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Looks like an Aviatic B.I beside the scissors. I agree the other is a Lloyd C.II. My guess is the flying boat is the Lhoner M or L. I have not got a clue what the grey one by the scissors is. I have an idea what the silver one is. I would get it with a bit of googleing but that would be cheating. I agree with Thumbs up, I would love someone to bring out a kit for the flying banana.
Alan
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Neat, I have soft spot for quirky A-H types.
Lohner B.II at 12 o’clock
An Aviatik B.I south-east of previous
Lloyd C.II or III left of previous
DFW B.I close to the camera
No idea for the others
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I think the the late great Joe Chubbok may have had a hand in creating these lovely vacs.
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Hi!
Very good, thanks :). Btw, these all are scratchbuild projects. The photo seems to be lacking in sharpness, but i will send new ones a bit later, this photo was taken about a month ago, so many of them have progressed quite a bit from what can be seen here. I will make it easier in the coming days :).
Yes, it is DFW B.1 with those banana-shaped wings. Lloyd C II is indeed there, also an Aviatik B.II,. Lohner B.II is also represented... just two to go!
Cheers, Skyhook
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The one with transparent (acrylic?) raked wings could be a later Lohner, a C.I for example.
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The one with transparent (acrylic?) raked wings could be a later Lohner, a C.I for example.
It indeed is a Lohner, but not C.I. To be honest, it is surely hard to indentify, because it is just the basic components, but possible :)
Cheers, skyhook
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So now it gets easier... here’s the two hard ones from the first picture...much more ready. Sorry about the silly stickers etc, but i wanted to obscure the tell-tale fuselage numbers for now :)
Cheers, Skyhook
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The one with transparent (acrylic?) raked wings could be a later Lohner, a C.I for example.
It indeed is a Lohner, but not C.I. To be honest, it is surely hard to indentify, because it is just the basic components, but possible :)
Cheers, skyhook
Still looks like a C.I, but it doesn’t have a gun it makes it a B.VII?
Lovely models by the way :)
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Thanks, and Well done, Torbjörn! It is indeed Lohner B VI. Now it is just one to go....i’ll make it easier by mentioning that its nickname wss ”rocking horse” (badly balanced elevator control, that made it sway up and down In level flight), used mainly on the eastern front 1916, for long range reconnaisance
Cheers, skyhook
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OK, wild guess based on the rocking horse clue.
Knoller B.II even though I do not know what it looks like but I do know it had issues.
Alan
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OK, wild guess based on the rocking horse clue.
Knoller B.II even though I do not know what it looks like but I do know it had issues.
Alan
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Throwing my two cents with You Al a Knoller.
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B.1?
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hi! Knollers look very similar, but this one is not one of them…. another hint; it’s other nickname was ”gondola”…. probably for the same reasons as the ”rocking horse”.
i know it is a hard one…found just a few images of it when googling for info…apart from the three view drawing.
cheers, Skyhook
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FRENCH?
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That's a gun ring on the back, cannot believe I did not notice that. My last guess is a Knoller C.1 and if I am wrong I give up and hope someone else gets it. Would be interested to see where on Google the plans are once it is guessed
Alan.
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Hi all and thanks for the indentifications and educated guesses... I personally knew next to nothing about these A-H types before starting to build them :)
The mystery plane is actually an Aviatik B.III (33 series). The B.II (32 series) was a good aircraft for 1915-16, but the improved B.III (33 series) was modified and altered mostly in wrong directions. It was not nearly as good airplane as its predecessor, but got some use on the eastern front. It wasn´t very popular because of its swaying in level flight. Aviatik went back to B.II after this, with the 34 series and it was much better than either of the earlier types, especially B.III. It is a rare beast and I couldn´t find too much info on it in the net or otherwise. But there´s a good (but unsharp) three view in the net, a few photos and profiles so I took it as a challenge...
cheers, Skyhook
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Cheers Skyhook
I would not have guessed it was an Aviatic because of the angular tail, I assumed the rear tail on all Aviatics were very rounded. I rail roaded my brain into a Knoller because although the well known C.II looks nothing like it I do know earlier ones looked different and were more angular and at least one of them was known to have poor handling characteristics. Thanks for the plans too, I doubt very much I would build one any time soon but an interesting subject to keep in mind. A project I do have on the shortlist is another A.H.E aircraft just as obscure and I will probably copy you on that one and do it as a quiz.
Alan
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Cheers Skyhook
I would not have guessed it was an Aviatic because of the angular tail, I assumed the rear tail on all Aviatics were very rounded. I rail roaded my brain into a Knoller because although the well known C.II looks nothing like it I do know earlier ones looked different and were more angular and at least one of them was known to have poor handling characteristics. Thanks for the plans too, I doubt very much I would build one any time soon but an interesting subject to keep in mind. A project I do have on the shortlist is another A.H.E aircraft just as obscure and I will probably copy you on that one and do it as a quiz.
Alan
Hi!
That would be really cool! The A-H aircraft are very interesting subjects... nice color schemes and especially the two seaters are often very beautiful in an archaic way. My reason for going for the lot was that I noticed that A-H subjects were very seriously under-represented in my collection. Not anymore. I think I will do a similar update regarding the Italian subjects later this year...
cheers, Skyhook
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btw... here´s a couple of photos of the DFW B.1.... it lacks just the rigging
cheers, Skyhook
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