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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on January 21, 2022, 08:51:32 AM

Title: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Dave W on January 21, 2022, 08:51:32 AM

Copper State Models' latest kit release, the 1/32 Caudron G.III landed at the Forum yesterday and it's gone straight to the top of the kit review list.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fY1Tp8Y/20220121-082718-002.jpg)

I'll have a review uploaded in the next day or so but initial impressions are: Wow! This is a state of the art kit and a worthy successor to Wingnuts in design and engineering quality. We don't do Kit of the Year but if we did I'd say the Caudron would get my vote.

Anyone who's unsure whether to order a Caudron can be assured this is a real treasure and a must-have for large scale WW1 modellers.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Brad Cancian on January 21, 2022, 06:02:40 PM

This one should make for a good review folks - grab some popcorn!  ;D

BC

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: KiwiZac on January 22, 2022, 04:14:04 AM

Fantastic news! I'm ready and waiting!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Alexis on January 22, 2022, 08:30:16 AM

Will someone be doing a build review in the future perhaps ?


Alexis

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on January 22, 2022, 08:47:04 AM

Hi Alexis,
So far a few of us have received their kits, so someone will doubtless build and log it soon,

Mike

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Edgar on January 24, 2022, 02:14:18 AM

Oleg is currently building his Caudron G.III
looks very promising!

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(https://i.ibb.co/cJ16CmY/g3-10.jpg)[/url]
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Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on January 24, 2022, 02:17:38 AM

Hi Edgar,
Good to see The Caudron build by Oleg.
The first close views of what will prove to be a great model for us all,

Mike

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Doug Mace on January 24, 2022, 03:33:25 AM

Yes, Edgar, a very hearty congratulations...and thank you...as always...and all the best to your crew.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: KiwiZac on January 24, 2022, 04:10:35 AM

Oh my!! *fans face like a Victorian lady*

Beautiful work Oleg, and congratulations Edgar on a stunning kit!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: fruibal on January 25, 2022, 11:33:53 AM

This kit is absolutely stunning, I just received mine today. I hope that CSM put more emphasis on 1/32 airplanes and get us more frequent surprises with new releases for this year

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: jeroen_R90S on January 25, 2022, 04:47:40 PM

Looks gorgeous!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: gbrivio on January 25, 2022, 05:08:08 PM

Edgard, it looks gorgeous, and I had no doubt it was. Even if my budget has been considerably lowered by unexpeted expenses this is on top of my shopping list. Just waiting it's showing up at local hobby shops, as ordering from abroad (also receiving non commercial parcels...  :-[ ) has becomen troublesome to say the least. Anyway, (well deserved) congratulations on your new release and long live to CSM!
Ciao
Giuseppe

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: LT1962 on January 28, 2022, 12:50:30 PM

Inspirational work. I have pulled my kit out to start working on it.

Do you know what colour the blue is that Oleg is using?

I have tried a couple of Tamiya enamels but the colours just dont look right.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Oleg on January 28, 2022, 09:34:51 PM

Quote from: LT1962 on January 28, 2022, 12:50:30 PM

Do you know what colour the blue is that Oleg is using?
I have tried a couple of Tamiya enamels but the colours just dont look right.

Hi! I used paint Vallejo Pastel Blue.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Edgar on February 03, 2022, 07:26:29 PM

Progress by Oleg


 (https://i.ibb.co/2jsyhC6/g3-19.jpg)
 (https://i.ibb.co/1T0pJKX/g3-20.jpg)
 (https://i.ibb.co/XDpQtz1/g3-24.jpg)
 (https://i.ibb.co/R7JJWrS/g3-21.jpg)
 (https://i.ibb.co/jTVq9V0/g3-22.jpg)
 (https://i.ibb.co/jLHJPNT/g3-23.jpg)

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: gbrivio on February 03, 2022, 10:22:52 PM

Outstanding, I'm just waiting this one appears at hobby shops within range. Order from (and also shipping to) abroad has becomen annoying in Italy, I hope it's just a temporary inconvenience due to the pandemics...
Ciao
Giuseppe

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: KiwiZac on February 04, 2022, 03:32:34 AM

Well that is absolutely beautiful, some fine work on display - congratulations Oleg and thank you Edgar for sharing!

Edgar, I have one question about the kit that wasn't answered by Dave's comprehensive review: is the engine in the kit fixed or rotating?

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Edgar on February 04, 2022, 04:05:54 AM

Greetings
Engine is feeling kinda tight due to cowling plastic thickness so for that reason the engine is fixed and can not rotate, sorry

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Captain Slower on February 04, 2022, 01:38:38 PM

Like the overall color and the contrast between the thick and thin portions of the wing.  What colors did Oleg use for the linen effects?

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: KiwiZac on February 06, 2022, 03:55:39 AM

Quote from: Edgar on February 04, 2022, 04:05:54 AM

Greetings
Engine is feeling kinda tight due to cowling plastic thickness so for that reason the engine is fixed and can not rotate, sorry

Thanks for clarifying that, Edgar. I'm sure I'm not alone in enjoying rotary engines that rotate, so I'm eager to see fixes people come up with to address this.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Oleg on February 11, 2022, 06:12:07 AM

Quote from: Captain Slower on February 04, 2022, 01:38:38 PM

Like the overall color and the contrast between the thick and thin portions of the wing.  What colors did Oleg use for the linen effects?

Hi, i used аcrylic  paints  AK "CLEAR DOPED LINEN"

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: the great waldo on February 11, 2022, 07:04:54 PM

Hi Oleg

A good choice of colour for clear doped linen  ;D
Nice build by the way.
Cheers
Andrew

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: LT1962 on March 03, 2022, 12:52:18 PM

I second this as an outstanding kit. I picked mine up a month ago and have started work on it. I thought I would be further along by now, but warm humid weather has slowed me down with some of the clear coats. Im off not for two weeks, so here is a peek of where I am up to. The rigging is tricky but the instructions are excellent in covering what goes where. It does pay to read ahead to make sure you have everything covered off though.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: LT1962 on March 03, 2022, 12:55:15 PM

A couple more photos

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: KiwiZac on March 04, 2022, 04:37:13 AM

She looks gorgeous, LT! Beautiful work! You might like to consider starting a work-in-progress thread in the Under Construction (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?board=3.0) subforum?

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Ringleheim on March 20, 2022, 02:32:45 AM

Would the engine cowling on this kit have been mold-formed in a large machine press?

Or would each cowl have been hand-beaten with a hammer over a wood buck? 

I'm curious how this cowling was made, but also how cowlings were formed in general in WWI. 

I'm just wondering if the aircraft manufacturers back then would have tooled up for a machine press type approach, or if metal work like this was all hand beaten, one at a time.

I ask b/c I would think it would impact the way the finished raw piece of metal would look.

Any comments appreciated!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Herb Collector on March 20, 2022, 07:21:30 PM

@ Ringleheim
Most WW1 cowlings were spun.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw)
Look up metal spinning on YouTube for more details on how this is done.

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: aircooled on March 20, 2022, 09:36:30 PM

Quote from: Herb Collector on March 20, 2022, 07:21:30 PM

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw)

Great link! Thanks for posting!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: WD on March 21, 2022, 01:33:26 AM

Thanks Herb, great video!

WD

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Ringleheim on March 21, 2022, 01:42:57 AM

Quote from: Herb Collector on March 20, 2022, 07:21:30 PM

@ Ringleheim
Most WW1 cowlings were spun.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNk0tl5jbqw)
Look up metal spinning on YouTube for more details on how this is done.

Thanks for that.  That's an interesting video and a technique I didn't now existed!

Title: Re: The Copper State Models Caudron G.III has arrived
Post by: Pup7309 on March 23, 2022, 10:24:10 AM

Hi
Just wanted to say I have purchased this kit and it is superb. Thanks:)