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Title: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Manni on May 06, 2021, 07:16:16 PM
Hello my dear friends,
there is something new from me again.
I have chosen the Jeannin Stahltaube from Wingnut Wings. This plane has fascinated me since I was a child. I looked at it again and again in a book about airplanes from my grandfather (the book was already very old at that time, I think the Taube was a state-of-the-art-plane in this book  ;)).

(https://abload.de/img/193kd8.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=193kd8.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/2jhj5e.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=2jhj5e.jpg)

There are also figures from Black dog and Elan35.
There will be 2 pilots standing in front of the Taube, that is nosed ower to be photographed.

(https://abload.de/img/3osj59.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=3osj59.jpg)

That plane is catching my eye here because of the shape of the wings and of the oversized crosses.


The first thing I did was assemble the wonderful 120hp Argus ASII. Unfortunately, the instructions do not show that the proposed engine is also present as a highly detailed mold on the sprue. Here the valve lifters and ignition wires are not cast on. I have scratched them here with lead wire and streched sprue. I have added the missing oil tank on the starboard side (just guessing the shape and position)

(https://abload.de/img/4qrj5e.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=4qrj5e.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/5r0jak.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=5r0jak.jpg)

The harnesses included with the kit are etched and accordingly two-dimensional, which I don't like. Here HGW offers nice lasercut harnesses, but they also have only etched spiral springs. Therefore I took a wire from the shielding of an USB cable (0.1mm) and glued it to the handle of an acupuncture needle.

(https://abload.de/img/6j9kvd.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=6j9kvd.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/7g4ju8.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=7g4ju8.jpg)

Then simply pinch the needle between 2 fingers and twist with thumb and forefinger. This will create a spiral on the needle.



[url=https://abload.de/image.php?img=80jjvf.jpg](https://abload.de/img/80jjvf.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=7g4ju8.jpg)

This spiral can be slid onto an annealed acupuncture needle and wrapped around a toothpick. Cut the whole thing open on one side and you have wonderful round spiral springs bent into a circle for the straps.

(https://abload.de/img/93ck97.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=93ck97.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/10dzk9v.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=10dzk9v.jpg)

Here are some pictures of the cockpit. The belts are now sticking out strangely, but that's because they are supposed to hang down later.

(https://abload.de/img/10ae0kl1.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=10ae0kl1.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/11g4jqp.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=11g4jqp.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/12o6kkr.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=12o6kkr.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/132ak8o.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=132ak8o.jpg)

In my eyes, the worst part of this terrific kit is the so-called spider, where above the cockpit and and on the landing gear the cables of the wings were secured with turnbuckles.
Since these parts are extremely present here, they had to be refined a bit. For this I took turnbuckles from Gaspatch Models.

(https://abload.de/img/14fckyb.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=14fckyb.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/158bjnb.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=158bjnb.jpg)

That's it for now, see you soon,
Yours, Manni
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: PrzemoL on May 06, 2021, 09:24:38 PM
Lovely start, Manni. Especially those refinements in the seat belts are eye-catching. I will be watching with great interest. Taube is on my to-do list and I plan to choose kit option C, too :-)
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Bughunter on May 06, 2021, 09:49:22 PM
Wow Manni, what a great (and huge?) project!
And I'm sure, we will at the end not only see a nice Taube, but also again a great environment.

The spiral springs looks so real, because they are real. Perfect way to model them!

Have fun and stay safe!
Frank
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Alexis on May 06, 2021, 09:55:47 PM
Wow Manni , you are off to an excellent start on this one . Nice job on refining the details on the seatbelts and the turnbuckles  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Gisbod on May 07, 2021, 04:25:57 AM
Awesome!

Guy
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: gbrivio on May 07, 2021, 05:28:56 AM
Great inner works, I built this out from the box but your fine scratch additions and paintwork really give life and extra value to the model. Looking forward for your progress.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2021, 05:42:15 AM
Wow Manni, what a great (and huge?) project!
And I'm sure, we will at the end not only see a nice Taube, but also again a great environment.

The spiral springs looks so real, because they are real. Perfect way to model them!

Have fun and stay safe!
Frank

I agree completely! Really looking forward to this one Manni!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Fvdm on May 08, 2021, 12:56:20 AM
Nice start Manny. The extra's look great. I envy you for building this kit. I never had the change to buy this kit and now I'll probably never will. O well, I just follow your build and enjoy it. Have fun.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: lone modeller on May 08, 2021, 01:19:41 AM
The extra details are in a class of their own Manni. The spiral rings for the seat belts are very impressive, as are the extra engine details. I do like these very early machines - they look so fragile. I can see another of your superb vignettes is in the making so I will be following with interest.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RichieW on May 08, 2021, 03:50:17 AM
Incredible work Manni, your fine detailing is stunning! The interior is just beautiful, you are a very special modeller!

Richie
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: gedmundson on May 08, 2021, 05:10:49 AM
Incredible detail added to your model - excellent work, Manni!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Matti on May 13, 2021, 07:20:01 PM
Very good looking interior & detailing work.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: kensar on May 13, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
You're well on your way to another exceptional build, Manni.  I'm looking forward to seeing the final display.  Your dioramas are excellent.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Rookie on May 14, 2021, 05:30:18 AM
The weathering on the inside is beautifully done. I particularly like the scratches on the floorboard under the pilot's feet. Nice touch!

Willem
This will be hell to rig I suspect...

Willem
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Manni on May 27, 2021, 07:35:40 PM
Hello my dear model makers,
Thank you so much for your kind words, I really appreciate the feedback.

It went a little further. I painted the fuselage, the wings and all the attachments.

As I wanted to make the paint job in pure field grey a little more interesting, I had first considered covering the wings with Aviattics Decals Linen in field grey. However, I don't find the decals very easy to work with.
After a very helpful discussion with Przemo (thanks) I decided to go a new way.
I sprayed the fuselage and wings in field grey, lightened with white and decktan over grey and white primer.

(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210522_185334818ab3fc803c53bc.jpg)

Afterwards I covered the parts with a fine tights (I hope this is the right term). You should make sure that the course of the fibres is perpendicular to the direction of flight on the parts.

(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210522_20124729c81eba1bc266ba.jpg)

After that I again darkened field grey with a few drops of black and sprayed it over the covered parts.

(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210522_1854098b54c3350016e3d8.jpg)


Here is the result. I am quite satisfied with it and think that I will use this method more often in the future.

(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210523_112309649f889e0eb50862.jpg)

I masked the ribs and drybrushed them with again strongly lightened field grey. I worked on the edges with Watercolorpencils in rich green. Some umbra burnt oil paint to get depth into the wings was the final touch.

(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210527_091200a7facb33eda5b542.jpg)
(https://imgbb.online/images/2021/05/27/IMG_20210527_0911208e1e638f43aac01f.jpg)

I will continue the build in the next few days.
Greetings,
Manni
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Rookie on May 27, 2021, 08:41:52 PM
What a great and creative way to add texture to the wings Manni!

Amazing build altoghether. This one is bookmarked!

Willem
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Umlaufmotor on May 27, 2021, 09:25:18 PM
Du hast ja eine schöne Öl-Sauerei in deinem Motorrenraum veranstaltet, Manni.
Ich denke, da sind längst überfällige Wartungsarbeiten an den Kurbelgehäuse - und Wasserpumpen-Dichtungen nötig.  :P

You have a nice oil mess in your engine compartment, Manni.
I think long overdue maintenance work is needed on the crankcase and water pump seals.

Bravo, really fine work on the Taube.

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Alexis on May 27, 2021, 10:55:45 PM
Another use for my stockings , that is a neat idea Manni . The effect and then with the weathering really make those wings look so realistic .

Alexis
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Todd Holaday on May 27, 2021, 11:07:05 PM
Hello.  Just joining in to add my appreciation for your work and ideas you are sharing.  I really like the seatbelts you've created.  One of the problems I have with photoetched ones is getting to appear to lay in a natural limp way.  They always just look like strips of metal I feel.  Yours bend and lay so nicely.  I also really like the texture you've created on the wings.  Thanks for sharing.  I have this kit as well and will reference your work when I start it.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2021, 12:31:19 AM
A very clever Idea to add the texture Manni. The pencil and oil weathering is the icing on the cake!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: lone modeller on May 28, 2021, 03:14:11 AM
More Manni magic here! Thses are really original ideas - especially the way in which you used different colours and textures to achieve the linen effect on the wings. Looking forward to seeing more.

Stephen.

 
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Bughunter on May 28, 2021, 06:08:34 AM
Nice new ideas!
What was the base of your Field Gray? Tamiya?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: gbrivio on May 28, 2021, 05:22:23 PM
Excellent look and a very promising technique.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Manni on May 28, 2021, 10:30:57 PM
Thank you all for your kind words.
Yes, I always try to make something new. Mostly I do everything new because I forgot how I made it the last time. And sadly I am too lazy to make myself some notes (dumb me)
@Frank:I used Tamiyas XF65 Feldgrau as base. I use always Tamiya paint for the main colors, but I thin them with the yellow cap thinner from Tamiya or Mr. leveling thinner.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Fvdm on May 29, 2021, 02:42:17 PM
Thanks for sharing that technique for the linnen effect. It looks great.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: lcarroll on May 30, 2021, 01:52:14 AM
Superb work and results so far Manni; it's great seeing you active again and working your "trademark" magic! Like all of your projects this will be an exceptional model, and I look forward to learning more from your ideas used here.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RichieW on May 30, 2021, 07:20:43 AM
What a really clever way to create fabric texture, I love seeing new ideas like this. The results look amazing!
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Manni on July 05, 2021, 01:08:01 AM
Hello my friends and thank you for all your comments. A little progress is made by me on the model.The weathering is done by oil paint. I think the next step is rigging and then the fun work on the terrain.
(https://i.ibb.co/2qr6RfB/IMG-20210701-202728.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1ZNnBwx)


(https://i.ibb.co/641ML1q/IMG-20210701-202909.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VvQ15Qk)


(https://i.ibb.co/cvfgmr5/IMG-20210701-203302.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZJ4LZMs)

Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RAGIII on July 05, 2021, 01:18:06 AM
Beautiful Work Manni!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: lone modeller on July 05, 2021, 03:55:31 AM
That is quite simply STUNNING!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: gbrivio on July 05, 2021, 06:37:39 AM
Great pain job and great weathering. Looking forward to next steps.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Rookie on July 05, 2021, 06:48:12 AM
This is awesome Manni!

Willem
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: DaveB on July 05, 2021, 07:19:33 AM
Wow - oustanding work so far, Manni -

Looking great

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: kensar on July 05, 2021, 08:13:26 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: MichaelStieber on July 06, 2021, 02:41:19 AM
Wow, your weathering looks so great !
You could tell me you that you made a picture of a real plane in a museum and I would easily believe it  :)

I am definitely looking foreward to your next steps...
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Bughunter on July 06, 2021, 03:16:53 AM
Großartig Manni!
That will be a wonderful Taube at the end.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Borsos on July 07, 2021, 12:56:32 AM
Like Frank said. It’s going to be a fantastic Taube!
Andreas
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Fvdm on July 07, 2021, 02:28:55 AM
Awesome Manni.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RichieW on July 07, 2021, 08:04:32 AM
That is just beautiful!!!!!
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: rhwinter on July 07, 2021, 05:43:15 PM
Great, Manni! Looking forward to seeing more! I also have this kit of one of my boyhood-heroes when I had read „Der Flieger von Tsing-Tao“ by Gunther von Plüschow. And I do fancy my Taube as a heavily weathered, warweary bird.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Manni on October 05, 2021, 08:40:30 PM
Hello my friends and thank you for your nice comments. I am very happy about that.

I have finally done something again with my Stahltaube. I have finished the painting and weathering.The rigging was a real challenge for me and of course I broke all the struts by clumsiness.  With the help of Rafael's great photos I put the gaspatch turnbuckles in the right places. Now I am very pleased with the Taube how it turned out.

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_182639e1k49.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_182639e1k49.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_182646ctj53.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_182646ctj53.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_182658h6kjm.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_182658h6kjm.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_1828486vkdt.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_1828486vkdt.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_18285822js8.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_18285822js8.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_182915txjrg.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_182915txjrg.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/img_20210929_182939a6jj0.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20210929_182939a6jj0.jpg)

Here you can see the final position of the plane. I will work on the figures and the base in the next steps.

(https://abload.de/img/img_20211005_100951rwkhs.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=img_20211005_100951rwkhs.jpg)

Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: rhwinter on October 05, 2021, 10:07:03 PM
LOVELY!
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: lone modeller on October 06, 2021, 12:52:58 AM
Wow! That is just super in every way. More Mani wonderfulness!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2021, 02:46:44 AM
Beautifully painted and the rigging is spectacular. I am really looking forward to the diorama  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Bughunter on October 06, 2021, 03:13:00 AM
What a nice bird! It is really a member of the early aviation, with it's shape and all the rigging lines 8)
The model is beautiful painted.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Borsos on October 06, 2021, 01:53:23 PM
This is really a wonderful Taube, Manni. And the diorama setup looks very promising. I am keen on seing it finished in all its beauty.
Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: kensar on October 06, 2021, 09:43:05 PM
I wondered when the diorama part would come along.  A fine looking Taube, Manni.  A pity it will be in such an awkward position, but then, one can see the underside!
Title: Re: Jeannin Stahltaube 271/14 [WNW 1:32]
Post by: Rookie on October 06, 2021, 11:39:03 PM
What a beautiful model Manni! Great work on the paint, the weathering and the delicate rigging details.

I am very curious about the end result of the diorama.

Willem