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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: kkarlsen on February 27, 2021, 07:40:21 PM

Title: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on February 27, 2021, 07:40:21 PM: Hello, I've been working on my next Kaiserliche Marine fighter plane project.
This time it's the Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz, Seeflugstation Windau (Russia).

(https://i.imgur.com/RNz3Y3L.jpg)

It's been a bit of a research 'adventure' to get information to create the correct version of Schulz's aircraft.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y8aCURz.jpg)

One suggestion is this with multicolored tactical markings.

(https://i.imgur.com/H9se0tH.jpg)

Another one is this camouflaged version of the same aircraft (Over the Front)

Today I finally got this clearer photo of #911 showing the tactical markings.

(https://i.imgur.com/gT1YFGh.jpg)

I'm not able to recognize any 'multicolored' markings.

(https://i.imgur.com/aQX2No1.jpg)

So I think this 'profile' comes closest to #911 except I think the floats have been overpainted with black
coating at some point... The spinner is also darker.

Olt.z.S. Viktor Schulz was stationen in 'Windau' 05/1917 - 01/1918.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on February 27, 2021, 07:46:55 PM: The build has going on for a while, here's a short recap of the work up until now...

(https://i.imgur.com/9JNeWIk.jpg)

The Roden 1/32 Albatros D.I is used as base for this conversion.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wwfn3Vq.jpg)

Scratch build floats.

(https://i.imgur.com/wgNulIu.jpg)

Cast copy's...

(https://i.imgur.com/i9LNWBz.jpg)

The kit wings have been extended and widened, maybe it would have been easier to start from scratch?

(https://i.imgur.com/CUUqr96.jpg)

Coverted tailplane and elevators, the #911 had only one MG.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on February 27, 2021, 07:51:33 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/OaKEk1r.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rtGop1g.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1UK3a5y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sNXgD0i.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cVAwCM7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/i8wWmT0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P294LDH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/asotle1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZiOQ3HC.jpg)

The build so far...

Thanks for looking: Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 27, 2021, 08:23:25 PM: Really pleased to see this update! I’ve always thought the W4 was the most attractive of the Albatross family.

Great work on the conversion.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: Mike Norris (UK) on February 27, 2021, 09:58:09 PM: Hi Kent,
Impressive modelling going on here - keep it coming,

Mike
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: RAGIII on February 27, 2021, 10:45:42 PM: I am glad you put this up here Kent! Superb work in all aspects of the Model! Very Impressive indeed!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: lcarroll on February 27, 2021, 11:32:23 PM: Got to love it; serious research, great conversion work, and superb detail along with a really attractive subject! I'm going to enjoy watching this beauty come together
Kent, keep up the terrific work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: Alexis on February 28, 2021, 12:14:53 AM: Was wondering what you have been up to since your last build , must say though Kent , you were holding out on us !

As always , you don't disappoint !!!!

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: rhallinger on February 28, 2021, 12:47:25 AM: Brilliant work Kent! Many of us have toyed with the idea of making this conversion, but the scratch floats and wing/tail surgery seem to have deterred most of us. You have handled it very skillfully, and the results are just beautiful--looks like a Wingnuts kit! Your finishes are superb.

I have two W.4s in 1/33 paper "kits," and I may have a go by that route eventually, although the schemes are preset. I really like the particular aircraft markings you have chosen. This is a wonderful project and I will follow with great interest and enjoyment, no doubt.

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on February 28, 2021, 06:05:12 PM: Thank you Hugh, Mike, Rick, Lance, Alexis, & Bob I appreciate your nice comments!

I have seen some attempts to do this conversion before, none finished though?

I certainly hope that my attempt will bear fruit and will come to completion and not turn in to a 'shelf of doom' project.
Although I have completed the major parts of this conversion, you never know if some little issue will become an obstacle.

Regards: Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: fredjocko on March 01, 2021, 09:33:37 PM: This looks fantastic!! What did you use to make the little domes on the floats (I hope that makes sense)?
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 01, 2021, 10:40:31 PM: It does Carl, I've made a 'rubber stamp' - A silicone print from the W.29 floats.

This is now the third set of floats where I'm using cast copy's of the 'little domes' it adds some nice detail to the floats.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kensar on March 02, 2021, 12:31:34 AM: A very interesting project, Kent. Looks like a significant amount of scratchbuilding required, but no doubt it will look great in the end.
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 09, 2021, 02:56:12 AM: The bottom wing, stabilizer and rudder is fitted...

(https://i.imgur.com/n71ZCzg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z6K8Bv6.jpg)

Some progress on the floats too...

(https://i.imgur.com/edDwocX.jpg)

I've been working on some scratched trolleys with wire wheels as they are showed in many photos of the W4's.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: hrcoleman66 on March 09, 2021, 06:52:54 AM: That's looking stunning Kent!

Most inspiring.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: RAGIII on March 09, 2021, 07:02:26 AM: Outstanding work Kent! Really looing like a w4 now. I am beginning to think you might be the first person I have seen start one of these conversions to actually finish 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 10, 2021, 12:54:12 AM: Me too Rick, seriously - You never know before some of the crucial stages of a build like this has been accomplished...

I've been worrying for some time now, how to fit fit the floats without a nerve wrecking 'battle' - I always seem to 'f*ck' these pivotal points of a build.

Surprise! It took 5 mins, without any trouble at all - You just sit back and wonder, 'how did that happen'?

(https://i.imgur.com/4Oj0oIz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/I5RQEr0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BSLmKFz.jpg)

I'm just so relieved this turned out so well.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: RAGIII on March 10, 2021, 01:22:46 AM: I am certainly amazed ! I couldn't get the struts aligned on My Eduard 1/48th KIT! Your build is looking outstanding ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kensar on March 10, 2021, 01:26:24 AM: It was meant to be. :D
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: Alexis on March 10, 2021, 07:46:24 AM: Quote from: kensar on March 10, 2021, 01:26:24 AM
It was meant to be. :D

Sure was ...

Fantastic Kent , looking forward on seeing her with wings :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: hrcoleman66 on March 10, 2021, 07:48:55 AM: Quote from: kkarlsen on March 10, 2021, 12:54:12 AM
Me too Rick, seriously - You never know before some of the crucial stages of a build like this has been accomplished...

I've been worrying for some time now, how to fit fit the floats without a nerve wrecking 'battle' - I always seem to 'f*ck' these pivotal points of a build.

Surprise! It took 5 mins, without any trouble at all - You just sit back and wonder, 'how did that happen'?

(https://i.imgur.com/4Oj0oIz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/I5RQEr0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BSLmKFz.jpg)

I'm just so relieved this turned out so well.

Kent

Very well done. I spent a few hours trying to get the floats back on my Eduard W4 a few weeks ago (They came off in my last house move). Eventually gave up and put it back in the box.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 12, 2021, 03:36:42 AM: Sneak peak of the Albatros W.4.

(https://i.imgur.com/HdTjldb.jpg)

Half way's through the rigging, still all of the rigging of the floats are not done, the elevator's also missing, but it's beginning to look like a W.4.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: rhallinger on March 12, 2021, 04:02:12 AM: That looks great! Beautiful conversion Kent.

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: Borsos on March 12, 2021, 04:15:53 AM: Impressive build, lovely finish!
Andreas
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: RAGIII on March 12, 2021, 04:18:05 AM: Absolutely Fantastic Kent! I can only hope your conversion inspires Roden ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 12, 2021, 05:33:08 AM: Thank you Bob, Andreas & Rick!

I'm very happy with the Albatros W.4 build, it's been pretty straightforward.
Not as some of my other conversions, 'dragging' on for months.

Rick: That would indeed be amazing if Roden were to 'update' their D.I kit into the W.4!

Let me see, new wings, reshaped tail plane and then the floats.

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 12, 2021, 05:47:37 AM: Superb!
:o
vB

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/12eOoLezVypVWo/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47whmqc3ku9r6rv6ykrffaswnwjqlzdvw3km07h5ov&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: hrcoleman66 on March 12, 2021, 07:30:31 AM: Looks very much like a W4 to me!

Splendid job!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: Fvdm on March 14, 2021, 05:41:28 PM: What a beautiful plane. Fantastic build.
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: kkarlsen on March 14, 2021, 06:04:54 PM: Thank you!

The completed build:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11998.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11998.0)

Kent
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 15, 2021, 11:12:57 AM: That's a real beauty!! Love the W4 and you are nailing it.

Dan
Title: Re: Albatros W.4 Marine Nr. 911 of Oblt.z.S. Viktor Schulz.
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 15, 2021, 11:13:50 AM: Hmm...maybe I should pay attention! I'll go check out the finished forum... ;D :P