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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Pup7309 on January 02, 2021, 02:05:04 PM
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I had the above thought when going through their catalog/ue. They have done a few popular subjects Se5a, Fok D7, Albatros, Camel etc. in 72/48. CSM, Roden, Lukhgrph etc are jumping in to fill out the unfinished range. As WNW are dead and almost buried in theory there is still room for the big sellers re-popped...
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I think that is an attractive idea as 1/32 scale eduard WW1 kits surely would be first rate kits. But I am not too optimistic. Eduard only released one 1:32 scale kit at all, their Messerschmitt bf-109 E, which is, although a great kit nothing too exotic. All their other offerings are 1:48 or 1:72 respectively.
Andreas
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Andreas, are you sure? As far as I know they have a 108 in 1/32, but they used the moulds of some other company.
Cheers,
Frank
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Andreas is correct . Eduard did release their own Bf 109 in 32 scale . It's just a little better then Hasegawa but not as good as the Cyperhobby ( Dragon ) 32 scale . All other 32 scale kit's they have released are others manufactures with resin and PE up grades .
However though it would be nice to see Eduard up scale their WW1 kit's such as their Albatros W-4 , but I just don't see Eduard really carrying on with their WW 1 range other then re-boxings . I could be completely wrong as well ...just never know what the future holds in the end .
Alexis
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They announced a new-tool 1/48, Sopwith Camel to be relaesed later this year, although all relaese dates are fictional now, after the big fire they had.
I am sure it will still come and will be very interested in that, especially their claim that it will be the best detailed ww1 kit ever, period. It will take some serious mold making techniques to better the Aviattic Ansaldo kit!!!
I hope it will lead to some new and hopefully exotic 1/48 kits from Eduard, they have more then a few that could do with a new-tool relaese.
Don't think they will ever do a 1/32 though.
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For the 108 Eduard got an offer to buy the moulds, but they stated that it will be an exception to do this big scale.
(https://www.eduard.com/out/pictures/1/3006.jpg)
Cheers,
Frank
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Is that's Eduards tooling Frank ?
Alexis
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Hi
Yes it seems wishful thinking at this stage. I heard their Se5 was a nice kit. The WW2 stuff definitely is. Looking at demand for 1/32 WW1 you’d think it would be worth considering. But if they haven’t even upsized a fw 190, Mustang or Spit, I doubt they’d do a Fok D7 etc. Oh well.
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I for one hope they don't, there are precious few manufacturers still providing to the 1:48 ww1 crowd. I fear if they did switch over our options would begin to dry up. For example, Edgar from CSM hinted to me a few years back about the Caudron G3 coming along to pair with the G4 in 1:48, however it is now a pending release in 1:32. Still a wonderful occurrence, but I feel the chances of new 1:48 plastic releases from CSM are slim now that they have dipped into the 1:32 market, and I worry if Eduard did that the same thing would play out. I'm hopeful however that their new Camel release shows that they are committed to increasing and improving their WW1 offerings.
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I am also waiting for the promised 1/48 Caudron G3. It seems quite plausible that they could produce a kit in 1/48th scale as well as their 1/32nd scale kit because they have already done the research and time consuming computer modeling.
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Is that's Eduards tooling Frank ?
Alexis
The company that made the molds was called „Striped Fighter“. Eduard bought them, when this company disappeared. Also their other 1/32 kits are produced by someone else like their P-40 — the plastic is from Hasegawa and eduard threw in their decals, resin bits and PE-frets.
Andreas
Andreas
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Thanks again Andreas
Alexis
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FWIW, I am with Iancshippee on this one. While I'm not a 1/48th scale guy, I'd certainly hate to see the manufacture of WWI kits in that scale disappear. To me, and in my mind, Eduard almost single-handedly resurrected WWI modeling in the 90's with their 1/48th scale releases, I'd like to see them continue in that vein. The 1/48th scale guys just don't get much love anymore.
Just my opinion only, your madness may vary.
WD
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I don't think anybody is going to risk kitting the big sellers in 1/32 - Fokker Dr.I, D.VII, Albatros D.V, Camel and SE5a - while the possibility of Wingnuts' moulds re-entering the market exists. The other most popular types - Nieuport and SPAD - are covered by CSM and Roden. I can't see Eduard calculating much profit from entering the 1/32 WWI market now.
However we have seen a brief period of popularity for big multi-engine WWI bombers - mostly amongst modellers who build for competitions or vanity projects, but I think the large numbers of Gotha G.I and UWD kits left languishing on retailers shelves shows this has run it's course.
I sold my WNW bombers unmade as they were just too big for my private collection, however I would probably now buy good kits of Gothas, Friedrichshavens, etc if Eduard quality kits of these types appeared in 1/48 scale
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I don't think anybody is going to risk kitting the big sellers in 1/32 - Fokker Dr.I, D.VII, Albatros D.V, Camel and SE5a - while the possibility of Wingnuts' moulds re-entering the market exists. The other most popular types - Nieuport and SPAD - are covered by CSM and Roden. I can't see Eduard calculating much profit from entering the 1/32 WWI market now.
Yep. Agreed.
WD
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Personally if they were to step up their releases in the WW1 market I would like to see them go after some 1/72nd 2 seaters. The choices in that scale for injection Molded kits are limited. JMHO,
RAGIII
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Personally if they were to step up their releases in the WW1 market I would like to see them go after some 1/72nd 2 seaters. The choices in that scale for injection Molded kits are limited. JMHO,
RAGIII
If they did that, I'd take out a loan. ;) ;D
WD
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Hi thanks
I hadn’t thought of the effects on 48 scale.
If the WNW moulds re enter the market- is a big ‘if’ but understand the uncertainty it creates. Maybe only Peter Jackson could answer this- and that ain’t going to happen. For me personally the WNW spell has lifted- still a shame though they folded.
It’s funny how the market prices go. I passed up a an Abatros B11 at over 50% off at WNW and Weta sale. Now they are going for 3 to 4 times RRP. Go figure!
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I recently bought Special Hobby Bristol Bullet and Fokker D11. Haven’t made them yet but they look very nice in the box- and didn’t cost an arm and a leg. Bring on the new Roden and CSM offerings! (Oh and also the new Fried F33)
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As far as the 'big, familiar subjects, I see potential for better versions of the Albatros DII and DIII in 1/32. If the WNW molds were to re-appear, the SE5a should get a Viper version or someone could do a Viper conversion. The better DIII could also result in an Austrian version as well. Second tier subjects, the Hanriot which Eduard did in 1/48 and the Halberstadt DIII and DII. Two seaters worth doing would be the BE2c and BE2e, Breguet 14B2 and 14A2, Albatros CIII or CVII. Esoteric but worthwhile (for me) would be the LVG C.II, Aviatik C.II, Voisin LA 3 or LA5, and the Martinsyde Elephant.
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As far as the 'big, familiar subjects, I see potential for better versions of the Albatros DII and DIII in 1/32. If the WNW molds were to re-appear, the SE5a should get a Viper version or someone could do a Viper conversion. The better DIII could also result in an Austrian version as well. Second tier subjects, the Hanriot which Eduard did in 1/48 and the Halberstadt DIII and DII. Two seaters worth doing would be the BE2c and BE2e, Breguet 14B2 and 14A2, Albatros CIII or CVII. Esoteric but worthwhile (for me) would be the LVG C.II, Aviatik C.II, Voisin LA 3 or LA5, and the Martinsyde Elephant.
Well said Captain Slower. An updated Albatros II & III would be well received I’m sure, as well as others mentioned.
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I have a love/hate relationship with Eduard!
They do things that make me happy, they do a lot of things that make me very angry.
On the whole, I would welcome an Eduard 1/32 WWI project for sure.
I would be unlikely to buy any WWI kit in a scale smaller than that, with maybe 1 or 2 odd exceptions.
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Take everything I say here as my own opinion and somewhat uniformed at that. I've been out of the game for ages and have a stash and a half to get through before I commit to buying a whole bunch of new releases.
I built a few Eduard classics when I was modelling more 15-20 years ago. The Albatross CIII, Sopwith Tripe, Pup and Baby... But back then there was very little available in 1/48 scale, some Blue Max, some Aeroclub...
And then came Roden, bursting onto the scene with 1/72, 1/48 and 1/32 scale subjects that while not perfect, were build-able and with a little TLC, gave us some nice finished models.
Eduard plugged along, not releasing a great deal more in 1/48 until the Fokkers, Albatrosses and Camels. All great kits that kept them going for ages with reboxing potential, and a bunch of WW2 subjects.
More recently, the Siemens, and the SE5as.
Their release schedule seems to be realistic... and they don't seem to take a lot of risks.
I think, 1/32 is going to be a risk, and a risk I believe Eduard are unlikely to take readily.
Personally, I would like then to redo some of their classics in 1/48. Redo the Sopwith Tripe, Pup and Baby. Do them in the quality that they have done the SE5a (which incidentally was originally announced in the Early 2000s) and I believe they would be great sellers and would allow Eduard to embark on R&D and development of new subjects like the 2 seaters Captain Slower has mentioned.
Cheers,
Hugh