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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: PrzemoL on September 30, 2020, 03:28:17 AM

Title: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 30, 2020, 03:28:17 AM: My first CSM model and I hope not the last one. Quite a pleasant build so far (despite some unorthodox engineering): the cockpit assembly well under way, main struts ready, upper wing put together just like the rear fuselage - the seams are being treated.

(https://i.ibb.co/449LbGP/20200929-191807.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gR9wwz2/20200929-191750.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cNTw9Tr/20200929-191731.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1XYWVgk/20200929-191652.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SyPDcn3/20200929-191712.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/c6GMndd/20200929-191613.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HhsHHVJ/20200929-191635.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2020, 05:29:04 AM: Your usual clean and Impressive painting and construction Przemol! Lovely start to a Great kit.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: FAf on September 30, 2020, 05:53:24 AM: Looking really good! Have you used tubing to 'lock' the wires attaching to the turnbuckles? That too looks really neat.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on September 30, 2020, 06:53:44 AM: Thank you, Rick and Fredrik.

Yes, the turnbuckles are secured with tube sections.

And the cockpit is completed.

(https://i.ibb.co/NLsrv64/20200929-213909.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/v1fNDHr/20200929-213850.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0XhZpwV/20200929-213829.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5xMgyVX/20200929-213811.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on September 30, 2020, 09:52:36 AM: :)

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Radarman on September 30, 2020, 09:59:13 AM: As always, I love to see a Nieuport being built. It's looking great.

Kevin
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 30, 2020, 04:37:29 PM: Excellent beginning on the Noop, Prze!
I'm looking forward to the middle and the end ;)

vB
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: rhallinger on September 30, 2020, 11:19:09 PM: Looking really nice Przemo! What paint did you use for the blue parts? Looks spot on to me. ;D Carry on!

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2020, 11:21:53 PM: Even better with the seat and other items installed!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: hadzi on October 01, 2020, 03:45:29 AM: :o I'm speechless, quality of your works are extraordinary Przemek!
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: gcn on October 01, 2020, 05:15:30 AM: Excellent timing, I’ve just taken delivery of one of these, albeit the late one, so I can do Baracca’s mount again.

Bookmarked for reference 👍
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 01, 2020, 06:00:07 AM: Look great -I like the contrast the blue offers :)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 01, 2020, 07:32:46 AM: Thank you, everybody.

The blue is a custom mix of Vallejo Azul mate and Gris claro. Roughly 2:1.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Pup7309 on October 01, 2020, 12:44:24 PM: Superb!
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 03, 2020, 03:15:26 AM: I continue with this build. Currently making up the mess with that unbelievable split of the fuselage into far too many elements.

(https://i.ibb.co/jRzxDYL/20201002-190328.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6Dy0tNV/20201002-190349.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PsyWThw/20201002-190405.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vHbL6Kg/20201002-190444.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 03, 2020, 05:49:30 AM: In spite of the complex assembly your Nieuport is looking excellent Przemol!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 03, 2020, 11:00:15 PM: Yes , it is a bit complex , but still though . Excellent work so far !

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: andonio64 on October 04, 2020, 01:11:03 AM: Very interesting, you are doing a great work as usual!
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 06, 2020, 05:18:05 AM: Thank you!

And some results on Le Rhone

(https://i.ibb.co/Z1zW7g9/20201005-210402.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/z5QJL8Z/20201005-210340.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Nigrivender on October 06, 2020, 05:38:21 AM: Well done ;), I won't say more. Just like him :D (Przemo will understand 8))
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2020, 06:03:15 AM: Engine and prop look gorgeous Przemol!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 06, 2020, 09:53:28 AM: What do you use for your copper paint ?

I don't care for the Tamiya and looking for a better alt .

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: gedmundson on October 06, 2020, 10:43:21 AM: Your project is coming along very well, Prze. As always - the detail and painting touches are excellent.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 07, 2020, 04:45:50 PM: Thank you, everyone.

Quote from: Nigrivender on October 06, 2020, 05:38:21 AM

Well done ;), I won't say more. Just like him :D (Przemo will understand 8))

Will I? I missed the point, sorry ;)

Quote from: Terri on October 06, 2020, 09:53:28 AM
What do you use for your copper paint ?

I don't care for the Tamiya and looking for a better alt .

Terri

Vallejo Acrylic Metal Color Cobre (not Model Color!). Actually all the metal colours except Brass, which I use recently, are from this line (sadly, they do not have brass Metal Color)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 07, 2020, 09:08:29 PM: Thanks Przemol for the reply .

I already used the metal coats for natural metal finishes , but I haven't see the copper at the local shop . Going to source some out .

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 07, 2020, 09:10:43 PM: Quote from: Terri on October 07, 2020, 09:08:29 PM
Thanks Przemol for the reply .

I already used the metal coats for natural metal finishes , but I haven't see the copper at the local shop . Going to source some out .

Terri

It must be somewhere out there :-)
https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product/hobby/metal-color-en/copper-77710/
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 07, 2020, 09:35:53 PM: Thanks again Przemol ,

Will be calling the LHS to see if the have it in stock , it's listed on their web site , but doesn't state if it's in stock or not .

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: gcn on October 07, 2020, 10:34:21 PM: Hi Prez

Do you ever brush paint the Copper. I’ve the model air copper, which I brush painted for my dolphin and I was a bit underwhelmed with the results. Your engine looks much smoother.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 07, 2020, 11:44:49 PM: Quote from: gcn on October 07, 2020, 10:34:21 PM
Hi Prez

Do you ever brush paint the Copper. I’ve the model air copper, which I brush painted for my dolphin and I was a bit underwhelmed with the results. Your engine looks much smoother.

Thanks.

I limit brush painting as much as possible. Especially for the metallic colours - I use the airbrush.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: kensar on October 08, 2020, 12:33:20 AM: Nice engine Przemol - as usual. Do you have the fuse painted?
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 09, 2020, 05:12:35 PM: Quote from: kensar on October 08, 2020, 12:33:20 AM
Nice engine Przemol - as usual. Do you have the fuse painted?

Not yot, the last preparations are underway. :)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 09, 2020, 11:03:39 PM: Lovely work on the engine, Prze.
I have bookmarked the copper for future purchase.

Cheers,
vB ;)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 11, 2020, 04:03:17 AM: Thank you, Bob.

And here finally some colours are applied. This time I decided to start with the upper sides. It should be easier to mask them and after this paint the underside linen colour with the rim overlapping onto the edges.

(https://i.ibb.co/WkVjRJ8/20201010-195723.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ctngq04/20201010-195644.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 11, 2020, 07:03:58 AM: Nice job on the camo P ! It is easier some times to spray the top and mask that then spray the underside . I do this with some of my WW 2 builds . Looking forward on the underside and the trim :)

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2020, 07:44:32 AM: The camo looks great and I Love the colors!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: mgunns on October 11, 2020, 09:47:29 AM: Outstanding work all around Prez! The engine and prop are eye catcher and the camo scheme seems a bit unusual, must be some special unit or something. I have to say (Write) that what impresses me most though is your "High Tech" Model working stand. ;) I have something almost identical to that.
Looking forward to the "Rest of the Story."
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 11, 2020, 06:59:09 PM: Thank you.

Quote from: mgunns on October 11, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
... the camo scheme seems a bit unusual, must be some special unit or something.

Now I see I have taken too much freedom with free hand airbrushing. And I think I will have to correct it. Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: gbrivio on October 11, 2020, 08:56:57 PM: Nice and clean work, going to be another lovely plane of yours.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: mgunns on October 12, 2020, 03:44:47 AM: Quote from: PrzemoL on October 11, 2020, 06:59:09 PM
Thank you.

Quote from: mgunns on October 11, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
... the camo scheme seems a bit unusual, must be some special unit or something.

Now I see I have taken too much freedom with free hand airbrushing. And I think I will have to correct it. Thanks for pointing it out.
I think you misunderstood my comment I was referring to the colors seemed different from the usual Nieuport Camouflage scheme. Not a reference to the freehand airbrush. I think it looks great as is.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Monty on October 12, 2020, 04:26:09 AM: Superb work, as usual Przemo! I like your interpretation of the camouflage colours! Your build speed never fails to amaze me... Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 12, 2020, 06:45:11 AM: Anyway, I have corrected the pattern to resemble better what was in the CSM instruction ;)
As for the colours they are a little bit off in the photos, the WB in my phone is not collaborating 😉

And thank you Marc for your usually overly kind comments 🙂

(https://i.ibb.co/0j7BD3j/20201011-223850.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zhZLfnJ/20201011-223911.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: kensar on October 12, 2020, 10:10:17 PM: Nice looking paint, Przemol. I wasn't sure what Mark was referring to with his comment. Glad he clarified. But who can say exactly what the colors should be?
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2020, 11:42:30 PM: Looks Gorgeous...as it did before 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 13, 2020, 11:54:25 AM: :)

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on October 13, 2020, 04:09:44 PM: I'll raise Terri's :)

:) :)

Really impressive work as usual...Dan
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 13, 2020, 06:05:46 PM: Looks great!
For small parts with brass or copper metal colours, I paint them silver or aluminium first, then use copper, brass or bronze -somehow these last 3 are more transparent then the first 2 and it gives a (to me) pleasing effect -even with the brush. :)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 13, 2020, 07:02:37 PM: Thank you, everyone.

Quote from: kensar on October 12, 2020, 10:10:17 PM
Nice looking paint, Przemol. I wasn't sure what Mark was referring to with his comment. Glad he clarified. But who can say exactly what the colors should be?

Indeed, who can? :) And these colours will be further modified with shading and later covered with satin varnish, so the colour intensity will change, too.

Quote from: jeroen_R90S on October 13, 2020, 06:05:46 PM
Looks great!
For small parts with brass or copper metal colours, I paint them silver or aluminium first, then use copper, brass or bronze -somehow these last 3 are more transparent then the first 2 and it gives a (to me) pleasing effect -even with the brush. :)

Jeroen

Yes, brush painting is apparently problematic due to the semi-transparency. But I noticed no problems when airbrushing, especially using the Metal Color Vallejo paints. Model Color Vallejo Brass is a differnt story, though. I wish they would add this color to Metal Color series.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 15, 2020, 05:43:23 AM: Airbrushing and decalling basically completed. Now for some shading and... the final assembly!

(https://i.ibb.co/LnqrS9q/20201014-213300.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VNtLLJM/20201014-213326.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wBxRrJj/20201014-213409.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XWTdJyc/20201014-213449.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 15, 2020, 05:58:00 AM: Really nice job on the trim along the wing edges :)

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 15, 2020, 07:40:35 AM: Beautifully done Przemol! As always your work is crisp and clean!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: mgunns on October 15, 2020, 09:57:37 AM: Hi Prez: I see now as it's all coming together. It's really looking the business alright. The thin line on the upper wing is nice and crisp and sets off the camouflage nicely. Outstanding as per usual Prez.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: FAf on October 15, 2020, 10:43:28 PM: Very neat!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 19, 2020, 02:13:10 AM: Thanks...

Shading and staining mostly done. Closer and closer 😉

(https://i.ibb.co/16JqccT/20201018-180554.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WBZt8bs/20201018-180638.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bQ9XVp0/20201018-180719.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 19, 2020, 02:58:38 AM: Continuing to look Beautiful Przemol. I Like the subtle rib shading. There but not overdone!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 20, 2020, 08:15:02 AM: The final assembly is begun.

(https://i.ibb.co/BP0thVt/20201019-213513.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fpMqscc/20201019-213549.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/grj01TJ/20201019-231916.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/RC6Lsy2/20201019-215611.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Radarman on October 20, 2020, 09:08:40 AM: Przemol,
That's going to be one gorgeous Nieuport!

Kevin
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 20, 2020, 10:53:49 AM: An absolutely Gorgeous build and one of the best I have seen.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Jorgo on October 20, 2020, 03:07:44 PM: Hi Przemol! Excellent work as always! How did you fix the clear parts on the upper wing ?

Regards Jörg
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 20, 2020, 04:21:27 PM: Thank you.

Quote from: Jorgo on October 20, 2020, 03:07:44 PM
Hi Przemol! Excellent work as always! How did you fix the clear parts on the upper wing ?

Regards Jörg

After some testing on concave and convex surfaces I gave up the Clearfix and used tiny blobs of a gel CA glue - on the concave underside three dots at the centre and on the convex upperside - three at each edge - at the trailing and leading edges. A bit tricky and not fully clean work, but quite acceptable. I managed to avoid the CA mist on the transparent areas.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Jorgo on October 20, 2020, 06:47:58 PM: Thank you for your hint and tip, very useful for my Nie. 17!

Jörg
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: fredjocko on October 20, 2020, 09:48:32 PM: WOW!! Very nice!
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 21, 2020, 01:56:01 AM: It is a biplane, at last!

(https://i.ibb.co/cQn74Y8/20201020-174658.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6tDNs9h/20201020-174638.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/b30gcrL/20201020-174618.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Bughunter on October 21, 2020, 05:06:52 AM: Wow, in your hands this kit looks like a WNW, or even better! Very impressive!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 21, 2020, 07:22:20 AM: Thank you, Frank.

The last bits went faster than I expected, so I can call my first adventure with CSM completed. Now, where is that promised Caudron G.III?

(https://i.ibb.co/RjqNtpv/20201020-224535.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j8mG6ns/20201020-224441.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/h8NprRX/20201020-224159.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/89H3LcQ/20201020-224219.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2020, 07:28:51 AM: Absolutely Stunning Results Przemol!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Alexis on October 21, 2020, 11:30:18 AM: You do beautiful work sir :)

Whats next ?

Terri
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 21, 2020, 06:25:48 PM: Thanks, Rick and Terri.

Quote from: Terri on October 21, 2020, 11:30:18 AM
You do beautiful work sir :)
Whats next ?
Terri

Well... :) This one:
(https://i.ibb.co/8gJmKm8/20201021-074704.jpg)
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: FAf on October 21, 2020, 10:14:41 PM: Looks great! I really like the overall finish you've achieved. That light outline on the topwings catches ones eye and really make the model stand out.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Radarman on October 22, 2020, 12:04:47 AM: PzezmoL,
Fantastic build, you can't have too many Nieuports around here.

Kevin
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: Old Man on October 22, 2020, 12:12:02 AM: That's a beautiful model, Sir!

And if they do put out a Caudron G.III, that would lure me into the large scale.
Title: Re: Nieuport 17 early (1/32, Copper State Models)
Post by: PrzemoL on October 22, 2020, 12:48:17 AM: Thank you gentlemen, I am glad you like it. And just a brief info - I have just sent the full proper gallery to the appropriate forum section.